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Svedge Minmatar White Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too.
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 - [2] I'd ask for your CovOps, but it seems you don't have it any more... Skills Explained
Batwigg	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it. Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure.
Natsume Chidori	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 - [4] Edited by: Natsume Chidori on 07/05/2008 16:35:12 It is the responsibility of the GMs to reimburse ships when a bug occurs, not when you do something stupid. That is all. Enjoy WoW.
Uncle Mo	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 - [5] For the record you simply activate self-destruct again to cancel. It tells you this when you first activate self-sestruct.
DrefsabZN	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 - [6] if you had lost something of value I might have a LITTLE sympathy for you, not because you were hard done by, but because you were stupid/stoned/drunk enough to blow your self up. But hell its 90mil thats chump change, if you can fly covert op's you shouldn't be bothered by a paltry 90 mil.
Raving Gerbil	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 - [7] To be honest, if this is your view on the game, then never resub... For the simple fact that you will be dissapointed over and over again when you lose something to your own mistake and a GM doesnt give it back.
Lt Angus Caldari Wicked Crew	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 - [8] Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Maltor'Vak Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 - [9] Edited by: Maltor''Vak on 07/05/2008 16:38:35 Thankfully you are ridding Eve of a total failure, so thanks for canceling. As mentioned above, you do not get reimbursed for a ship loss that is your fault not CCPs. buh bye ___________________________________
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Batwigg Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it. Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure. Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:38:00 - [11] So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more? LOL Good riddance. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Natsume Chidori Edited by: Natsume Chidori on 07/05/2008 16:35:12 It is the responsibility of the GMs to reimburse ships when a bug occurs, not when you do something stupid. That is all. Enjoy WoW. I will enjoy AoC instead for a month ;). WoW sucks big time.
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Batwigg Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it. Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure. Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes. EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more? Good riddance. How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it?
Face Lifter	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:41:00 - [15] EVE is a cold harsh world and events like that are there to build your character. You can't be soft. You need to learn to be brutal, backstabing, patient, and full of hate for your enemies, whatever they may be (even CCP) If you can't handle that transformation, EVE is not for you
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Svedge II How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it? Your lack of knowledge isn't CCP's responsibility either. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Natsume Chidori	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more? Good riddance. How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it? Because it tells you when you activate it?
Ascuris Wurm	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 - [18] I have a friend that accidentally 'Trashed' his new battlecruiser. (Still not sure how he managed to hit yes on the confirmation as well, but...) He petitioned to their mercy, but didn't get his back, either. It was his fault, not CCP's, so he accepted responsibility for his actions. You should too... Wurm "It's never too late to be what you could have been" -George Eliot Especially in Eve-Online
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:45:00 - [20] Didn't Aurora go through it? Because I'm fairly sure that I picked up my "Self-destruct can be canceled by pressing self-destruct again" somewhere other than on the forums. In any case. Can I have your stuff? ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:46:00 - [21] About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke... My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone... I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account.... Oh well.... Live and learn.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) And those same pilots will then run to the plane constructor and blame them for their errors, much like you do, right.... -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:47:00 - [23] It never dawned on you to hit the self destruct button again, or ask for help in the multitude of channels that are available to a player in the what, 2+ minutes between self destruct activation and it actually happening? -------------------------------- There isn't a test around that a smart man cant find some way to get around it.
Waxau The Fated Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:47:00 - [24] ....Its only 90 mil anyhow..... lol.
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:48:00 - [25] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Svedge II How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it? If you actually read the little window that pops up when you first activate the self destruct sequence, it tells you how to de-activate it. The hardest learned lessons are usually the most expensive. Lessons like, "If you warp scram an Alliance Mate whilst shooting war targets in HiSec instead of activating your remote repper, CONCORD will take a keen interest in your activities and cease them with fierce rapidity." I'm sorry, but your loss was in no way CCP's fault so you should not get reimbursed for it. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Ginko Joukai	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:49:00 - [27] When you initiate self-destruct it VERY clearly tells you in a popup window at the very center of the screen that to cancel it you need to click on self-destruct again. You FAIL. Your stuff... can I have it?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.07 16:56:00 - [28] EVE is intended to be a cold, ruthless, harsh, Darwinian-selection game. It's not nearly Darwinian enough, as ilustrated by the countless "minerals are free" types of people, inventors selling below cost, people reacting at a loss and so on and so forth. If you were CARELESS enough to accidentally activate self-destruct, UNATTENTIVE enough to not read on the popup how to cancel it, UNKNOWLEGEABLE enough to know it's your fault and only your fault, then ACT SURPRISED/OFFENDED when the reimbursement is rejected... ...EVE is not for you. Adieu o/ __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards Don't be a social moron, read and vote after you decide !
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:01:00 - [29] gbye now! have fun playing WoW _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Akita T ...EVE was never the game for you. Adieu o/ And I don't want your stuff. Yup, but his point that the "documentation" is craptastic stands. Player Guide documenting the neolitic, Knowledgebase rife with errors... -- Heat, easy to burn your mods by mistake, hard to get it to work when you need it the most. Well designed interface CCP!
Erialor Godsent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:03:00 - [31] The 'documentation' for his issue was presented to him when he pressed Self Destruct, I believe. -- Get Your Crumplecorn signature here.
Sabrin Kulu Caldari Kismet Foundation	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:05:00 - [32] To be fair; the self destruct button should actually change to 'cancel self destruct' after the self destruction sequence has been initiated. -----
Astarte Nosferatu Minmatar Canes Pugnaces	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:06:00 - [33] Epic thread!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:07:00 - [34] Edited by: Akita T on 07/05/2008 17:07:54 Originally by: Lubomir Penev Yup, but his point that the "documentation" is craptastic stands. Player Guide documenting the neolitic, Knowledgebase rife with errors... I won't deny that in general, he's right. I'm still waiting for the wiki they promised us more than a year ago, for instance. But in this particular case, he DID have ample info. He DID get a warning about self-destructing. That warning ALSO told him how to cancel it. He has no excuse. __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards Don't be a social moron, read and vote after you decide !
Feilamya Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:11:00 - [35] Edited by: Feilamya on 07/05/2008 17:12:09 Edited by: Feilamya on 07/05/2008 17:11:50 "Thank your for pressing the self-destruct button. The ship will self-destruct in 20 seconds. This is your last chance to press the cancellation button!" "Cancellation button?!?!?! Where is it?" "It must be here!" "out of order!!" "****! even in the future nothing works!!!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhzZvkAo-U&feature=related
Xioden Acap Lightspeed Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:14:00 - [36] Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Xioden Acap Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message. Why would he eject when he's being engaged?
Veldya	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:16:00 - [38] I ignored the warning message when I went into low sec the first time and got my retriever blown up. You learn more from failure than you do from success. I have always been attentive whenever I leave high-sec, you would never make the same mistake again, had you not been a quitter. It is a game, the money means nothing, you should never leave the station in a ship you can't afford to lose or easily replace.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:17:00 - [39] And here I was thinking this was another whine thread about some overtanekd ship you'd caught self-destructing to stick it to you. Silly me. Svedge, it says on the warning pop up box that to cancel it you hit the button again. It gives you this nice box that says 'You Are About to BLOW UP YOUR OWN SHIP, do you want to continue?' If it wasn't there, you tried this earlier and disabled it (and should have read it then). There's a reason the old vets still say "don't fly what you can't afford to lose". -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Breaky Fitch	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:22:00 - [40] I didn't know that 0.0 entrance systems were camped alot so I flew a freighter full of things into it and lost it all.. CCP plx give my stuff back... I didn't know that shooting at another player in hisec would get me concorded so I shoot someone in my faction fitted navy raven and lost it all... CCP plx give my stuff back... I didn't know that getting my pod popped would lose implants and went pvping in 0.0 with +5's and snakes and lost them all... CCP plx give my stuff back... I pras putan and asploded my chipz, i dnt no dis wud hapn... CCP plx giev my thing back... Ignorance is not a valid reason for reimbursment.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:24:00 - [41] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Originally by: Xioden Acap Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message. Why would he eject when he's being engaged? to give them a free ship and not get the insurance payout DUH! oh and i was expecting a cnr or something and not a damn cov ops
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:41:00 - [42] Originally by: Jinx Barker My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules That actually might not be so bad depending how bad you made your SO feel about it. Could be letting the SO make it up to you is well worth 5 billion ISK. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Sally Bestonge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:42:00 - [43] all you have to do it try to blow yourself up again to make it stop you big sissy
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:50:00 - [44] Originally by: Akita T I'm still waiting for the wiki they promised us more than a year ago, for instance. But in this particular case, he DID have ample info. He DID get a warning about self-destructing. That warning ALSO told him how to cancel it. He has no excuse. There was a Dev Blog recently soliciting for help with the EVE Wiki so presumably it is on its way. As for the warning about self destruct yeah...hard to miss. But let's assume he managed to miss it anyway being one of those people who can't be arsed to actually read. In his position I think what would I likely do? Push a button, two minute countdown till I explode, no manual that describes self-destruct mechanics. Maybe it is just me but the very first thing I would try is pressing that same button again. In RL when we flip a switch to turn something on we do not look elsewhere to turn it off. We flip that very same switch again. When I start my car by turning the ignition I do not pull out the manual or look in the boot to find the off switch. I just turn the ignition the other way. Works every time. So, push button, bad timer starts. What to do to stop it? -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Maybe it's because I'm an atheist, but I don't think they get reimbursed either. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Florio Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Sabrin Kulu To be fair; the self destruct button should actually change to 'cancel self destruct' after the self destruction sequence has been initiated. OP has no excuses due to the popup warning message, but CCP should strive to make the interface as ergonomic as possible. So I agree with Sabrin's suggestion.
spanky herman Gulfonodi Industries	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:56:00 - [47] Originally by: Svedge II Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes. While the lead paint chips are shiny and colorful, This is why you shouldn't eat them. The game mechanic you used did exactly what it was supposed to do, you did not read the notice it gave you when you initiated the action. The GM's can reimburse on game issues when they have the logs and it is a fault with the game or code, they can't log or fix stupid.
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis And here I was thinking this was another whine thread about some overtanekd ship you'd caught self-destructing to stick it to you. Silly me. Svedge, it says on the warning pop up box that to cancel it you hit the button again. It gives you this nice box that says 'You Are About to BLOW UP YOUR OWN SHIP, do you want to continue?' If it wasn't there, you tried this earlier and disabled it (and should have read it then). There's a reason the old vets still say "don't fly what you can't afford to lose". Its hard when you are tired and used to clicking OK on the eject pop up. I haven't seen what's inside the self destruct pop up, so how could I know? Actually I can rebuy everything, I wouldn't have made a case of this if it was PvP or PvE. To those who tell me to play WoW, f* off, I hate WoW**. Its just a month away time, I will be back after that time has passed.
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:03:00 - [49] can i have your jam? Join us in the Exploration channel. The odds on me being here are rather slim evolutionary speaking, yet in the infinite bounds of probability my being here is a certainty.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:06:00 - [50] This reminds me of a saying: Trolling. When you do it right, nobody realises you've done anything at all. I'm pretty sure this guy is just trolling. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Zaerlorth Maelkor	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:08:00 - [51] Originally by: Jinx Barker About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke... My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone... I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account.... Oh well.... Live and learn. I think you are legally allowed to beat up your wife! ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Caligulus Legion of Lost Souls Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:10:00 - [52] Functionality documentation? CCP? HAHA. That's one thing that CCP really dropped the ball with. You would have though they'd have at least one person working on it... ------------------------------------------------- ** You're out of your mind! ** Well that's between me and my mind.
Mystri	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Svedge I screwed up. I expect GM's to wipe my arse, but it no worky. /throw toys out of pram Please don't go Mystri
Ga'len Wandering Druid of Tranquility	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:18:00 - [54] Wow, uhm, yeah. Darwin was SOO wrong, need evidence? The OP needs to look in a mirror. It tells you that to cancel self destruct, to hit the self destruct again. It's a toggle control. You also have, what, 2 minutes before it goes off? Why didn't you just eject again? Yeah, not too bright on the OP's part. This is almost as good as the lady who called in tech support one afternoon (this was years ago) to yell and scream at me for poisoning her kids. Yup, I was poisoning her children, giving them a preservative at such a young age. After all, the MSG light was lit up on her phone. Yup, this is the one of the reasons I read the forums, for more and more examples of EPIC-FAIL.
Queen Alma Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:22:00 - [55] BTW, self destruct is canceled when you jump in another system, too.
Absurd Smoothie	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:30:00 - [56] hahahahahaha! how the heck did you have 90 mil of stuff on a covops? my recons barely cost that much... you could cancel your account, or you could just, timecard or god-forbid, mine, 90 mil isk in like a couple of days
Christari Zuborov Amarr Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:53:00 - [57] Posts like this make me want to do something drastic. I think that I'll have to sub an Alt account to counter his offset - just so he knows he won't be missed in the slightest.
Stazzmo Gallente The Grind	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:04:00 - [58] Wow Svedge. You are what I would consider a sucky customer. I suggest you go to www.customerssuck.com to read about more people who act and think like you do. Look, if the server screwed up, then its CCP's fault. YOU clicked on the wrong thing, how could your carelessness possibly be someone else's fault? Dude, you screwed up, get over it. I dream of electric sheep.
Havohej Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:06:00 - [59] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Yeah. They don't get THEIR ship back, either. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Rhak Amharr Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:14:00 - [60] It's true, I tried to engage a flashy Megathron on a gate in my brandnew Apotheosis, only to find out that all modules are hidden. Of course, I was killed, and, due to being insanely slow reacting, podded. I petitioned it, as it was clearly a bug that no modules were shown, but they won't reimburse my ship or implants without giving a reason except "lol". I think I'm gonna quit too. Rhak
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:15:00 - [61] For those who have trouble understand the OP's point of view, a video translation has been made: Click
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:16:00 - [62] Can I have your stuff? Seriously, if it'd something to do to CCP, then yeah, sure, that might have been 'bad customer service'. But it wasn't. You did something stupid, and then wanted them to fix if for you. Man up, and accept that your error, lost you a ship. It's not new, it happens to most people. If CCP re-imbursed me every time I undocked drunk... well, I'd have a lot more ships ;p. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Cailais Amarr VITOC Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:18:00 - [63] Ah good ol Darwin in action . C. A new look at Local - IDEA
Chinger Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:21:00 - [64] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Eve does not equal real life. Besides the pilot who crashes a jumbo jet most likely will lose his life too.
Niko medes Gallente Cold Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:22:00 - [65] im sorry that you fail. --------------------------- Recruiting
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:26:00 - [66] Originally by: Absurd Smoothie hahahahahaha! how the heck did you have 90 mil of stuff on a covops? my recons barely cost that much... you could cancel your account, or you could just, timecard or god-forbid, mine, 90 mil isk in like a couple of days Heard about Sisters Scanprobe Laucher?
Waxau The Fated Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:35:00 - [67] Lol. So you're leaving out of a pure message to CCP? Yes - CCP. Have a look. You're losing a guy who knows nothing of pvp, or general eve knowledge. And hes contributing a single account too. Wow. You realise that you cancelling your account is what? 1/3 of what i pay monthly? And i dont even have a heavy alt industry thing. Geez...
Apoctasy The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:40:00 - [68] I know its already been asked, but... can I have your stuff? (In case it has not already been given out. I promise to use it well!)
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:50:00 - [69] Darwin Awards: EVE Edition? Anyways, it is your fault for clicking self-destruct, and it's your fault for not knowing how to cancel it. I mean, if ignorance was reimbursable, I'd start flying t2 fitted megathrons into gate camps and then petition it saying that I meant to warp to an asteroid belt.
Havohej Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:58:00 - [70] Originally by: Waxau Lol. So you're leaving out of a pure message to CCP? Yes - CCP. Have a look. You're losing a guy who knows nothing of pvp, or general eve knowledge. And hes contributing a single account too. Wow. You realise that you cancelling your account is what? 1/3 of what i pay monthly? And i dont even have a heavy alt industry thing. Geez... Nonononononononono. Read it again. This guy says he's cancelling ONE of his accounts, for ONE month, to PUNISH CCP for not reimbursing him the covert ops ship he self-destructed, which he lost because he didn't read the message that explains how you turn off the Self-Destruct (i.e.: click self-destruct again to turn it off). He's not even leaving the game. He's just going to deprive CCP of $15 this month, to teach them a lesson about running a MMO and customer service... Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Raving Gerbil	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:30:00 - [71] Originally by: Havohej Nonononononononono. Read it again. This guy says he's cancelling ONE of his accounts, for ONE month, to PUNISH CCP for not reimbursing him the covert ops ship he self-destructed, which he lost because he didn't read the message that explains how you turn off the Self-Destruct (i.e.: click self-destruct again to turn it off). He's not even leaving the game. He's just going to deprive CCP of $15 this month, to teach them a lesson about running a MMO and customer service... Without being disrespectful, i think CCP should roll this on him and not accept his resub to punish HIM for having less than adequate brainpower!
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:35:00 - [72] Originally by: Svedge There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. Click "self-destruct" a second time, newbie . Goal Line Blitz, an American Football MMO Vote Jade for CSM.
Bavinok radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:35:00 - [73] Edited by: Bavinok on 07/05/2008 20:35:39 For self destructing you committed insurance fraud, please return that money back to ccp.
supr3m3justic3	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:42:00 - [74] Man i accidentally hit the gas instead of the break in my car and ran into a group of small children, and the damn dealership would not give me a new car cause they said i was a ******......i'm never buying a car from them again....
Khatred ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:43:00 - [75] While the OP is pretty much lol, some of the responses are pretty much WHAT? Darwin? Doesn't cater for who? Harsh? Come on, if Eve would really be a hard, cruel darwinistic world, there would be 1000 people playing, tops. On sundays!
Naga Elohim	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:47:00 - [76] How to cancel self destruct is clearly stated when you press self destruct. Don't see how you could have missed that.
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:48:00 - [77] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. you will not be missed ____
Druadan Aristotle Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:49:00 - [78] Edited by: Druadan on 07/05/2008 20:53:28 The OP has good reason to feel hard done by. This isn't about him not bothering to check the information, or sucking at the game. This is another instance of CCP's UI design being severely lacking in quality. The concept of feedback has gone entirely unnoticed to CCP's UI developers and this is the kind of result we get: people lose ships and the Internet tough guys come out in force to tell him he sucks at the game. When I first started playing, I took a Thorax into a complex. It was a fairly easy complex to take a Thorax into, but I noobed it up and got myself swamped. I realised I was taking too much damage while I was halfway into armour, so I initiated a warp back to the entrance gate of the complex. Would have been fine were it not for the error message I received, which told me that the warp could not be initiated due to "proximity to natural phenomenon" that were blocking the warp. I knew you couldn't warp straight into a room of a complex, and that you couldn't MWD inside a complex, so I started looking around me for clouds, objects... anything that could be a phenomenon blocking warp. Eventually my ship exploded as I ran around this complex trying to find my way out of range of this phenomenon. I later found out that the error message was simply doing a paltry job of telling me that I couldn't warp from inside a deadspace complex back to the entrance gate for that complex. I petitioned the loss on the grounds of the error message not telling me what I needed to know, and got my ship back (though it was insured, so I didn't end up much better off and removing the payout nearly sent me into negative balance). Sometimes, deficiencies in the client lead to these kinds of losses, and it's in those times that CCP need to man up and accept that their UI caused the loss. The way the client displays information messages is a seriously awful part of the client. Had their developers paid attention in software engineering degree modules, the UI might not suck so much. -Dru Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Kur'Dekaija Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 20:54:00 - [79] You little baby, Ive lost more miss typing zeros in Jita when putting up sell orders :P paying few hundred mill in taxes is so much fun. And Im still here few years later and in way better position. So suck it up and keep playing.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:01:00 - [80] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 07/05/2008 16:57:16 EVE is intended to be a cold, ruthless, harsh, Darwinian-selection game. Ahh you believe that bull**** they trot out do you? SKUNK
Ur235 Invicta.	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:09:00 - [81] This time at band camp I self destructed my Ibis and the Gm's wouldnt give my stuffs back Subscription succesfully canceled!
Christari Zuborov Amarr Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:15:00 - [82] Originally by: Druadan "proximity to natural phenomenon" warp error. You were a n00b, and didn't click self-distruct, this is why you received a replacement ship from a forgiving GM. I however would not have replaced your ship. If you followed the in game tutorial, you have the basic principles in which to play - outside of that - it's left for you to discover and learn as you go along. That is part of the immersion process of this game, not to have everything laid out before you with their consequences detailed, but 10% explanation and the rest is left to trial and error.
Constance Harme	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:19:00 - [83] How is it you manage to get a covert ops ship with a fancy faction scan probe launcher and you dont even know how to abort a self desstruct? Even one day old achura's know how to do that
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:22:00 - [84] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Akita T EVE is intended to be a cold, ruthless, harsh, Darwinian-selection game. Ahh you believe that bull**** they trot out do you? Ahh and you don't ? Well, not so much the Darwinian part, not lately anyway. Lately, it's "dumb it down just enough so more people will stick around, but not dumb enough to lose too many of the old crowd". __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards Don't be a social moron, read and vote after you decide !
fwiedwice	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:30:00 - [85] Why were you ejecting anyways? The only time I eject is when my ship is about to blow up anyways and I'm trying to get a head start on running :(
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:33:00 - [86] EVE is turing into a PvC game, player vs client. seriously, can i have your stuff before you trash it all? ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Constance Harme	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:45:00 - [87] Originally by: Lithalnas EVE is turing into a PvC game, player vs client. seriously, can i have your stuff before you trash it all? Unfortunately he's only quitting eve for a month apparantly.
Zetjur Jilnou Rapid Deployment Industries	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:51:00 - [88] lol @ op.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.05.07 21:59:00 - [89] Svedge, as you've probably already noticed, there is indeed an in-game pop-up explanation of how to cancel a self-destruct given upon initiating the self-destruct. The GM's can not be held responsible for an individual ignoring the pop-up warnings, nor are they obligated to reimburse anyone unless an actual bug is responsible for the problem. That said, I applaud your willingness to cancel your subscription to prove a point. If/when you return to Eve Online, I only hope that you take more time to read and understand the pop-up warnings to avoid further mishaps of this nature. Always play the game with the assumption that you won't get anything reimbursed unless an actual bug causes the loss. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:00:00 - [90] There's no denying that it is incredibly lazy design to not have the 'self destruct' menu item change to 'cancel' when you initiate it. I don't think I've ever come across that in another game or application, and I had to laugh at the sheer stupidity of it when I first saw that message. OTOH, OP is a total sh1tbag.
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:06:00 - [91] We all do stupid, noob things. It's how you handle it that matters. Once upon a time (true story), I ejected from a top named fitted Scorp to see if the rats shooting at me would stop once I was in a pod. They had me scrambled but couldn't break my tank. It was a stalemate so I gave it a go, figuring I could come back for the ship later with a mate. Needless to say, the ship assploded almost immediately, leaving me 150m odd out of pocket (no insurance). I cursed and laughed and learned. Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry )
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:08:00 - [92] Edited by: Dromidas Shadowmoon on 07/05/2008 22:08:45 Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more? Good riddance. How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it? Maybe.. Dock? Log Out? Eject correctly? I believe all 3 will cancel an eject, but don't take my word for it :) _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.
Alowishus mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:22:00 - [93] Edited by: Alowishus on 07/05/2008 22:23:47 Almost ANYTHING will cancel a self destruct. Especially the way it tells you to when you initiate it. It asks you if you want to self destruct. Of course I doubt you read that because you're so cavalier until you lose something, then it's everyone elses fault. The world needs less entitlement minded babies like you. I'm sure the $15 a month you spend is not worth your bull****. Join The Muffin Factory
Hegbard	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:27:00 - [94] Originally by: Lubomir Penev Yup, but his point that the "documentation" is craptastic stands. Player Guide documenting the neolitic, Knowledgebase rife with errors... you do something stupid - you lose your ship. Best documentation there is. Only failure makes us experts.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:31:00 - [95] bye. we don't miss stupidity. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Bapfl	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:32:00 - [96] Originally by: Kahega Amielden For those who have trouble understand the OP's point of view, a video translation has been made: Click Click
Grimacing Wallet	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:38:00 - [97] I think I will have to petition CCP for a new pair of pants... I ****ed mine cos I was laughing too hard at the failure of the op! Enjoy your time out of eve. I am sure you will be missed
ermwtf	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:53:00 - [98] Good troll, seems you bagged more than the usual collection of forum tards
Cori4n Caldari principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.07 22:57:00 - [99] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" ...There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. ... For a moment, I thought the OP was complaining that the GM cancelled his subscription because of the word 'cancel' in his petition.
KHEN IGNITION.	Posted - 2008.05.07 23:00:00 - [100] You did an error... so what ? is it the end of the world ? mature players learn from their mistakes, so grow a bit, little kid ...and get some nerves message me when you'll be back, I'd like to show you that EVE is fun, whatever you loose, it doesn't ruin your entertainment if you don't want to. The Social Impact of EVE ? Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.07 23:04:00 - [101] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. As soon as you hit self destruct, it comes up with a window telling you how to cancel it. Bye I guess o/
KHEN IGNITION.	Posted - 2008.05.07 23:06:00 - [102] Originally by: Face Lifter EVE is a cold harsh world and events like that [frustating] are there to build your character. You can't be soft. You need to learn to be brutal, backstabing, patient, and full of hate for your enemies, whatever they may be (even CCP) If you can't handle that transformation, EVE is not for you I liked this one, one of the most accurate description of EVE The Social Impact of EVE ? Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.05.07 23:22:00 - [103] hahaha - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:15:00 - [104] Edited by: Svedge II on 08/05/2008 00:15:12 Originally by: Hanneshannes Edited by: Hanneshannes on 07/05/2008 23:10:05 As soon as you hit self destruct, it comes up with a window telling you how to cancel it. Linkage Bye I guess o/ The eject pop up is almost the same, the only difference is just the tiny text inside (I have 1680x1050 19" screen, so its smaller here than on other screens). If the self destruct pop up have had a bright red colored background, it would have made a huge difference and shouldn't be to difficult for the DEV team to implement.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:29:00 - [105] Edited by: Diek Ran on 08/05/2008 00:29:20 Originally by: Svedge II Edited by: Svedge II on 08/05/2008 00:15:12 Originally by: Hanneshannes Edited by: Hanneshannes on 07/05/2008 23:10:05 As soon as you hit self destruct, it comes up with a window telling you how to cancel it. Linkage Bye I guess o/ The eject pop up is almost the same, the only difference is just the tiny text inside (I have 1680x1050 19" screen, so its smaller here than on other screens). If the self destruct pop up have had a bright red colored background, it would have made a huge difference and shouldn't be to difficult for the DEV team to implement. No. I want it to be implemented exactly the way it is right now.
HiRider Unitas Nusquam Est FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:33:00 - [106] Originally by: Svedge II Edited by: Svedge II on 08/05/2008 00:15:12 Originally by: Hanneshannes Edited by: Hanneshannes on 07/05/2008 23:10:05 As soon as you hit self destruct, it comes up with a window telling you how to cancel it. Linkage Bye I guess o/ The eject pop up is almost the same, the only difference is just the tiny text inside (I have 1680x1050 19" screen, so its smaller here than on other screens). If the self destruct pop up have had a bright red colored background, it would have made a huge difference and shouldn't be to difficult for the DEV team to implement. It's also not difficult to read it every time either. It only takes a couple of seconds to read the first line and see the difference between the word. "eject" and "self-destruct" even if it's on some uber resolution of doom. Also make note it has been like this for practically the entire life of the game, and I highly doubt anyone else has complained so much about it. You got lazy and screwed up, live with it. .
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:40:00 - [107] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more? Good riddance. How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it? From ingame msg box If you self-destruct your ship you will lose it! Are you sure you want to initiate the 2 minute self-destruct sequence? To cancel a self-destruct sequence you should select self-destruct again (if any of your ships is already self destructing this will cancel it). Note the bolded part, perhaps learn how to read? Oh, can I have your stuff? In Memory of Deacon Hasp
Igetshotalot THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:46:00 - [108] Originally by: Estel Arador I'd ask for your CovOps, but it seems you don't have it any more... lol
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:47:00 - [109] Originally by: Helplessandlost Oh, can I have your stuff? Read from page 1.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:48:00 - [110] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Helplessandlost Oh, can I have your stuff? Read from page 1. You do realize that nobody who asked actually thinks they're going to get your stuff right? They're all just mocking you. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:50:00 - [111] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Helplessandlost Oh, can I have your stuff? Read from page 1. Did, can I have your stuff? In Memory of Deacon Hasp
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:53:00 - [112] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Helplessandlost Oh, can I have your stuff? Read from page 1. You do realize that nobody who asked actually thinks they're going to get your stuff right? They're all just mocking you. Surely I know that, but if they don't reading anything, they won't see the 1 month break protest note. ;)
Svedge II	Posted - 2008.05.08 00:54:00 - [113] Edited by: Svedge II on 08/05/2008 00:53:58 Originally by: Helplessandlost Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Helplessandlost Oh, can I have your stuff? Read from page 1. Did, can I have your stuff? Can I have your stuff instead? :)
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:07:00 - [114] I'm on a 1680x1050 resolution too, and I can clearly read all that even with my terrible, terrible eyes. You're just an idiot who doesn't want to take responsibility for his own stupid actions.
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:11:00 - [115] Yeah I'm starting to think this is a troll now too. OP is defending his actions just a little to blithely for him to be the real thing. Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry )
ceyriot Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:12:00 - [116] Originally by: Maltor'Vak Edited by: Maltor''Vak on 07/05/2008 16:38:35 Thankfully you are ridding Eve of a total failure, so thanks for canceling. As mentioned above, you do not get reimbursed for a ship loss that is your fault not CCPs. buh bye My reaction, saves me typing it. Faction Store
Kage Psychodin Caldari The Empire Nation Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:41:00 - [117] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. Can I have your salvage? (Yes, I know that was weak) Another one bites the dust.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:55:00 - [118] Originally by: Svedge ... bad customer service and customer understanding... From customer to customer I can tell you what: If you have no other arguments that this then you have no arguments at all. Originally by: Svedge ... your loss too. You're a poor figure. You are the only one who lost, in a sense that you obviously aren't able to learn from your mistakes which would make sense even as the kind of customer that you unfortunately are.
Dotard Minmatar Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:11:00 - [119] Originally by: Jinx Barker About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke... My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone... I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account.... Oh well.... Live and learn. In the 13 or so months of forum reading, this has got to be about the funniest thing I have read yet. --------------- Nerf You! Buff Me!
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Stickler inc	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:16:00 - [120] Woo, I'm going to self destruct next time I'm in PvP, petition and say "I meant to eject so the piwates could take my ship, can I have my stuff back?"
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:22:00 - [121] Originally by: Jinx Barker My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. The question is, are you still with this person?
Misanth The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:42:00 - [122] You have my sympathy. Item value is poo, but that's not the matter. The real issue is that the self-destruction option is really close to another option commonly used. I been jumping in/out of station moving things last few days and expressed my concern on this matter recently: "almost self-destructed alot of times now, really poor position". And like you, I never knew how to cancel it. Somehere here said it's just to self-destruct again, and that that information is given when you self-destruct in the first place? Well, I blew up quite a few ships and a couple of pods, and I never seen that message. That's when I deliberately blew up my stuff. I wonder how someone that accidently selfdestructed would see that. The GM might've been a bit harsh, expecting your things back is a bit borderline, but what CCP really needs to do is to fix the bloody useless UI in this game. It's far from logical, menu browsing keep 'resetting' or accidently kicking off too early/wrong, etc. It's very sensitive, and poor positioned. All menu choices, overload buttons, everything minimum size and positioned next to things you actually do use all the time. In that sense CCP really need to get a grip. I can't believe I say this but.. the UI was easier to use and less messy in 2005 than it is now. Some development isn't for the better.. Best game on the market, worst UI.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:47:00 - [123] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/05/2008 02:51:27 Originally by: Jinx Barker About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke... My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone... I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account.... Oh well.... Live and learn. HAHA oh wow edit: and the OP of the thread gets a stock "lol." response for lameness.
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:48:00 - [124] Well, now that I think about it... 1 month break = $15 less for CCP Which potentially means several less cups of coffee for CCP gone, which leads to cranky devs, which means EVE will failure cascade because the devs will be too busy throwing tantrums to fix anything. Congrats, you (potentially) killed EVE! Whine fulfilled, can we go home now?
Varopriest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:22:00 - [125] Anyone ever think that the Devs intentionally designed this way? Picture two of them talking: Dev 1 "Hey do you think we should make the self destruct screen different from the eject screen?" Dev 2 "Why would we need to spend time on that?" Dev 1 "Well to make sure someone doesn't blow up his ship accidentally." Dev 2 "Are you joking that would be funny! Plus we could just chalk it up to natural selection at its finest!" Remember: "That which does not kill you, makes you giggle. And tends to change your native language to Smackinese."
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:34:00 - [126] I think any time anyone does anything they should be forced to type in a text displayed on screen, all hidden like rapidshare's anti-spam ones. That way it not only prevents user negligence AND accidental concordings, but it also helps stop macro miners. F1 Are you Sure you want to activate your Gun in module slot 1? Type in the letters shown. -F/~G~''[BG\\X>>> F2 Are you Sure you want to activate your Gun in module slot 2? Type in the letters shown. (&R##U#!@S.:'U~%#R=E^?+ ..etc.. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.*
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:39:00 - [127] look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:50:00 - [128] Edited by: Dromidas Shadowmoon on 08/05/2008 04:52:00 Originally by: Pan Crastus look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. Theres no such thing as a perfect UI, of course eves could use improvement. But thats no reason to justify whining so much over laziness, I can't remember how many times that little popup, that everyone else apparently ignores, has saved my ship :P The word layout is very different, it's like mistaking a 5 dollar for a 50, sure they're the same size, same color even, but the whole layout is changed for the most part. The only thing they could do is color the box differenly for the illiterate, but that would neglect the colour blind, maybe they should make it a different shape, like a stop sign or a hazard sign. But why stop there, lets just have eve voice talk to you, incase you're blind. But then we'd be leaving out helen keller, how about we have a mobile usb launcher shoot 1 nerf missile at the user for eject, and 2 the user for self destruct. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:03:00 - [129] Originally by: Pan Crastus look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. There are other places in the forums where the UI is beeing constructively criticized. I think most people do not pretend that the UI is flawless, maybe you are pretending that the OP is. This thread is not a good place to talk in a constructive manner because the OP wasn't constructive in the first place and so flaming is what's happening here. And by pointing with the finger at others it will not get any better, how can you expect people acknowledging problems and being constructive after reading the OP's statements?
waferzankko Caldari Bears Inc Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:15:00 - [130] can i have ur stuff?
PsychoBones Sons of Plunder. Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:29:00 - [131] CBA to wade through 5 pages to see if someone posted this already, but... Quote: Are Your Sure? If you self-destruct your ship you will lose it! Are you sure you want to initiate the 2 minute self-destruct sequence? To cancel a self-destruct sequence you should select self-destruct again (if any of your ships is already self destructing this will cancel it). That is a pop up that comes up when you select self desctruct. You then have to hit 'YES' for the self destruct to actually take place. Originally by: Svedge Guys, I'm a ***** moron and don't read before I click it, therefor, it's poor customer service I'd ask for your stuff, but ****** might be contagious. ________________________________________
Lamic Tarvalla Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:53:00 - [132] I can't remember, but I think you have a "Do you really want to push that red button" warning when you do a self destruct. Not hard to say to yourself "Umm... this may not be a good idea". Kind of like when you delete files in your computer and it ask you, "Do you really want to delete this file?" It's like a second chance. Say No.
Kinomoto Sakura Amarr FW Scuad Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:07:00 - [133] yay!! Darwin hard at work ---------------- Game The World.
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:08:00 - [134] Don't worry CCP. I just bought a 3rd account a few days back. Your loss has been compensated!
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:25:00 - [135] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. HAHAHAHAHA. don't bother coming back. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Genghis Kitty Hello Kitty Online Adventurers	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:38:00 - [136] S'funny, usually people coming onto the forums to threaten to close their accounts usually gets such a positive, warm and caring response!
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:44:00 - [137] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija You little baby, Ive lost more miss typing zeros in Jita when putting up sell orders :P paying few hundred mill in taxes is so much fun. And Im still here few years later and in way better position. So suck it up and keep playing. Yeah. Coupla years ago I put up something like 20 mega beams for 150mil each on behalf of my corp. I left them up there for a while on the off-chance but no one bit. Ended up reimbursing the corp for the tax. And then there was the time I sat waiting to log on to join a convoy heading back into 0.0. Half an hour spent staring at the login screen and I never noticed that I wasn't in the system I thought I was. Strike one Apoc with a cargo hold full of goodies and at a guess a 10mil clone. That was a couple of years ago and I'm still here. Guess I don't fail as bad as the OP. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:46:00 - [138] Originally by: Lt Angus
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:24:00 - [139] My sig says it all. You canceled because either you misread the core design of EVE stating that mistakes in EVE should be costly, or you feel that customer support should reimburse accidentally destroyed items even when the game revolves around accidents being part of the risk. Enjoy a game with fewer consequences to playing carelessly. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Serge Tahlon Gallente Templars of Space Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:40:00 - [140] i have to say though, the right click menu options are stupidly close together. eject, selfdestruct, enter force field pass ... especially in laggy situation.
Riesia Altruism. Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:45:00 - [141] Edited by: Riesia on 08/05/2008 09:46:19 All I can say is lol Its like the OP putting a noose round his neck, jumping off a ledge then suing the rope company for not supplying instructions on how not to hang your self. Actually its even worse than that because the "how to get out of hanging" instructions were given to him except he didn't bother to read them because the writing wasn't good enough for him. Classic, when you leave I bet the average IQ of the player base rises.
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:59:00 - [142] is this a joke threat ?
Face Palmer Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:45:00 - [143]
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:53:00 - [144] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) And those same pilots will then run to the plane constructor and blame them for their errors, much like you do, right.... Yeah, and then the plane constructors ressurect them. Right? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
OneSock Crown Industries space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:03:00 - [145] 1stly, 2ndly, Devils advocate for a moment, but how is the OPs error any different from a noob getting himself concorded, if the noob gets an insurance payment, shouldn't the OP get his stuff back too ?
Zaphod Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:07:00 - [146] Its threads like these that make me think fondly of our Community and the way we jump violently on prats who whine and cancel accounts. keep up the good work guys
Nova Tiempo	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:15:00 - [147] tssk... tssk... BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You selfdestructed yourself. AND then didnt pay atention to the GIANT WARNING MESSAGE that tells you how to abort. AND then didnt ask anyone else. OR loggofskied. OR docked. OR changed system. THEN you go and insult the quailty of CCPs service for not giving you back your stuff. So long, and dont let the cluster door hit you on the way out.
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:22:00 - [148] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Those don't get reimbursed either.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:30:00 - [149] Originally by: OneSock 2ndly, Devils advocate for a moment, but how is the OPs error any different from a noob getting himself concorded, if the noob gets an insurance payment, shouldn't the OP get his stuff back too ? AFAIK you also get insurance for self destructing a ship. They get the same kind of compensation as a noob for doing something stupid, the own loss part is simply higher because OP choose to do the stupid thing with a T2 ship full of goodies. The noob doesn't get his security status restored by a GM though. So why should GM's interfere with this? Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:32:00 - [150] Originally by: Larg Kellein Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Those don't get reimbursed either. You win this thread. /thread Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Smilla Snow	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:41:00 - [151] oh thats fun 1) hitting self destruct and not eject 2) writing a message in the forum and then its the GMs fault... LOL
Zaerlorth Maelkor	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:54:00 - [152] Originally by: Julian Lynq is this a joke threat ? You mispelled "thread" on purpose! ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Declan Intaki	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:07:00 - [153] "GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back" I don't know whether to laugh or cry! You're a complete tosser to be honest, and if this event makes you quit then that's the best that could happen for you. Why? Because EvE can get a LOT tougher than that
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:08:00 - [154] This thread is a slice of awesome dunked in awesome tea made from awesome farmers that laboured for 10 awesome hours to farm its awesome aromatic awesomeness. What is even better, is that in your complaint you literally state: Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer understanding Therefore, that slice of awesome just got nice sprinkly sweet bits all over it. Yum Yum May god save me, if it is right that he should do so...
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:27:00 - [155] Originally by: Pan Crastus look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. Read the OP again. He isn't quitting because the UI is an unintuitive, user unfriendly piece of crap, he's quitting because the GM won't give him his stuff back! Also, the whole idea that publically quitting will suddenly make a company take notice and roll out a fix within a week is flawed to put it extremely tactfully. The OP is not flamed because he clicked the wrong choice and didn't know how to undo it in time, causing him to lose a lot of stuff. The OP is flamed because he expected GM's to intervene in all (where the in game economy is concerned there can be no such thing as an exception. It MUST be a general rule) cases where stuff was lost due to the user not understanding the interface, because he considers a declination of his request as poor performance by the support staff, and because he uses the hopelessly antiquated tactic of stating he quit on a public forum, instead of just filling in a feedback form and quitting without wasting bandwidth. If you make a fool of yourself with unreasonable expectations, people will make fun of you. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Blutreiter Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:11:00 - [156] I'm trying... i'm really trying... snicker Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sht up* Originally by: CCP Explorer I know we have said this before, but this time we really mean itÖ
Plaetean Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:40:00 - [157] darwin award -----
Iriana McNuke	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:49:00 - [158] Edited by: Iriana McNuke on 08/05/2008 13:49:27 @ OP MAYBE in AO you managed to hit 220/40 at hecks & AI mishes, maybe you had a full OFAB set on your melee advie a PC in FoD/PW and 8 fields. Maybe... And maybe Dakkon reimbused you for items lost due lag or something. But this is not AO. Even Tara or 220 BS looks like a kindergarden for any EVE player older than 1 year. Different world, different rules. You might been someone in AO, but here... here you worth less than 1 trit til you prove otherwise. Get rid of AO mindset. Is worthless. Learn EvE. Or GTFO for good. PS You sound like a clam anyway, I dont know why the hell I bother to help a clam. ----------------------------------------------- I know I'm not insane, the voices told me so.
Nguyen VanPhuoc Minmatar The Halibuts	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:51:00 - [159] how can someone be flying a covert ops and not know this stuff!?! ebay? ___________________ What was that word young man!?!
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:00:00 - [160] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/05/2008 14:00:05 Originally by: OneSock 2ndly, Devils advocate for a moment, but how is the OPs error any different from a noob getting himself concorded, if the noob gets an insurance payment, shouldn't the OP get his stuff back too ? see below (re: warning messages for both concordokken and self-destruction) Originally by: Nova Tiempo AND then didnt pay atention to the GIANT WARNING MESSAGE that tells you how to abort. AND then didnt ask anyone else. OR loggofskied. OR docked. OR changed system. THEN you go and insult the quailty of CCPs service for not giving you back your stuff.
5pinDizzy Amarr Pwnage Distribution Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:01:00 - [161] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 08/05/2008 14:03:10 You're quitting over 90 million isk? Sheesh There are people on this game that have lost nearly all they have before and and in more forgiving circumstances, but suit yourself.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:29:00 - [162] As a matter of fairness to the OTHER players in EVE you can not be reimbursed for losing your ship through FUNCTIONAL game mechanics. There is a notification that pops up telling you how to deactivate the self destruct. You have stated that for some reason you couldn't read it but not because it was blurred out or incapable of being read...you just didn't read it? You can not petition and be reimbursed for pilot error. It has to be glitch or something wrong in the coding of the game. If you had told the self-destruct sequence to STOP and yet it still went through, THEN you could have petitioned it! =D --- Put in space whales!
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:49:00 - [163] One less dumb CovOps pilot to provide ****ty warp-ins. Don't really see the problem here? Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
Terri Kaleyran	Posted - 2008.05.09 14:42:00 - [164] Even when I lost a kitted out brutix to an insane lag out during a fleet battle I didn't bother asking for a new one. Dust yourself off and move on. Loss is inevitable for any number of reasons.
Spaztick	Posted - 2008.05.09 14:49:00 - [165] Your stuff. Gimme. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.05.09 14:59:00 - [166] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 09/05/2008 15:01:28 i must admit i havent ever seen anywhere in eve or the eve website on how to stop a self destruct although it is common knowledge. /me waits to be proven wrong by some random forum wh.ore.
Mihaill Blackthorn Gallente Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.09 16:09:00 - [167] give me my ships and modules back, I really didn't mean to jump into that gate camp!
Auron Shadowbane Pelennor Swarm Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.09 21:23:00 - [168] drops a canister or two of gasoline into the fire and walks away smileing HAHA! I can udnerstand TRASHING out of missclick and hurry but self destruct? comeone you have 2 fraking minutes!
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.10 08:50:00 - [169] Someone mentioned AO.. Unlike AO, there is no reclaim in Eve.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.10 09:10:00 - [170] Originally by: Waxau ....Its only 90 mil anyhow..... lol. ^^^^ Yeah... I swear I've lost 10x that in a day due to stupidity/drunkeness or being sleepy. ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Evita Achura Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.10 10:12:00 - [171] Originally by: Svedge so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is For a month? for a MONTH? OH holy mother of destruction what havoc will your 14.95 wreak upon the budget of CCP lets see.... 0.00333e % of their total income assuming they only have 30k customers.... for one month thats still less than 0.033% of their yearly income from the game and I'm pretty sure they have more than 30k customers so I think that gm is not going to lose any sleep over your nasty gram in fact I'm pretty sure some where in the back of his subconscious he's glad another whiner left the game. Reccomendations for preventing your own stupidity in the future: 1. Learn to read the menu before clicking on something. 2. Don't turn off the warnings. 3. READ the warnings. Oh and give me your stuff you won't be needing it.
Evita Achura Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.10 10:16:00 - [172] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Those pilots usually get sued, fired, or dead, either way its natural selection they don't get to whine to some GM about giving them their plane back and all of their dead passengers and their sad dead passenger families now do they? Your example is crap stop posting quit the game burn your computer and don't ever touch our internet again.
Gosh Krux Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.12 15:28:00 - [173] I accidently flew to the wrong gate the other day and landed in a gatecamp. EVE GM! GIMME MY SHIP BACK! I DIDNT MEAN TO! ZOMG! Have fun in WoW! Can I have your stuff? Learn2Play! Etc. etc. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.12 15:34:00 - [174] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. so tell us about world of darkness ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Silentil Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.05.13 02:52:00 - [175] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. You know...in the month you've decided to protest and severly damage CCPs earning potential by a massive $14.95!!, you could have finished your milk and gone ratting to make the money back...yes sux you miss-clicked, but I think your logic in addressing the issues is somewhat misguided. I guess you might have been able to get your stuff back if you'd made a valid arguement, but seems you've just raged about it. Originally by: "Mahrin Skel" If we're pets, we're not fluffy, yappy little lapdogs. We're the chewed-up junkyard rottweiler BoB uses to keep the kids out of their yard.
CHAOS100 Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 03:04:00 - [176] please don't come back. Actually on second thought come back, eject all your ships in front of me, and then self destruct your pod. Then you will get the hang of it! --------------
Stone Ironfist Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.13 06:24:00 - [177] I believe this would qualify for an EVE version of the Darwin awards......... Which reminds me of an interesting question. If you attempt to dock with self destruct active, will it let you?? I really dont think they would want a ship blowing up in station lol
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.13 08:35:00 - [178] Originally by: Mystri Originally by: Svedge I screwed up. I expect GM's to wipe my arse, but it no worky. /throw toys out of pram Please don't go Unfortunately, where I work, we DO have to wipe their asses. An I'm not talking figuratively here. Luckily I'm not trained to do so Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Zobiana	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:49:00 - [179] Originally by: Bronson Hughes The hardest learned lessons are usually the most expensive. Lessons like, "If you warp scram an Alliance Mate whilst shooting war targets in HiSec instead of activating your remote repper, CONCORD will take a keen interest in your activities and cease them with fierce rapidity." Quoted, underlined, italiscised and bolded for truth... and man they do make it "rapid" lol. Z
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:53:00 - [180] Originally by: F'nog Unfortunately, where I work, we DO have to wipe their asses. An I'm not talking figuratively here. Luckily I'm not trained to do so So, you're not a nurse, but in the "taking care of elderly and/or disabled" industry ? __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards (NEW: spreadsheet) Or just vote for LaVista Vista or Leandro Salazar like I did.
Viqtoria Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:54:00 - [181] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Natsume Chidori Edited by: Natsume Chidori on 07/05/2008 16:35:12 It is the responsibility of the GMs to reimburse ships when a bug occurs, not when you do something stupid. That is all. Enjoy WoW. I will enjoy AoC instead for a month ;). WoW sucks big time. have you even played AoC?? btw kinda odd you would post that you have cancelled your subs yawn due to blowing your ship up, it was recently a big whine about the UI and I think your just talking ****, to be rather frank.

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