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Svedge
Minmatar White Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16
Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008
This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that.
My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either.
GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 -
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I'd ask for your CovOps, but it seems you don't have it any more...
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Batwigg
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too.
No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it.
Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure.
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Natsume Chidori
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Natsume Chidori on 07/05/2008 16:35:12 It is the responsibility of the GMs to reimburse ships when a bug occurs, not when you do something stupid. That is all. Enjoy WoW.
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Uncle Mo
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 -
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For the record you simply activate self-destruct again to cancel. It tells you this when you first activate self-sestruct.
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DrefsabZN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 -
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if you had lost something of value I might have a LITTLE sympathy for you, not because you were hard done by, but because you were stupid/stoned/drunk enough to blow your self up. But hell its 90mil thats chump change, if you can fly covert op's you shouldn't be bothered by a paltry 90 mil.
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Raving Gerbil
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 -
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To be honest, if this is your view on the game, then never resub... For the simple fact that you will be dissapointed over and over again when you lose something to your own mistake and a GM doesnt give it back.
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Lt Angus
Caldari Wicked Crew
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 -
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Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |

Maltor'Vak
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Maltor''Vak on 07/05/2008 16:38:35 Thankfully you are ridding Eve of a total failure, so thanks for canceling. As mentioned above, you do not get reimbursed for a ship loss that is your fault not CCPs.
buh bye ___________________________________
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Batwigg
Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too.
No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it.
Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure.
Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:38:00 -
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So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more?
LOL
Good riddance. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Natsume Chidori Edited by: Natsume Chidori on 07/05/2008 16:35:12 It is the responsibility of the GMs to reimburse ships when a bug occurs, not when you do something stupid. That is all. Enjoy WoW.
I will enjoy AoC instead for a month ;). WoW sucks big time.
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Originally by: Batwigg
Originally by: Svedge I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too.
No, you lost something due to hitting self destruct and not knowing how to cancel it.
Aka, you lost a ship due to your own failure.
Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes.
EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more?
Good riddance.
How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it?
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:41:00 -
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EVE is a cold harsh world and events like that are there to build your character. You can't be soft. You need to learn to be brutal, backstabing, patient, and full of hate for your enemies, whatever they may be (even CCP)
If you can't handle that transformation, EVE is not for you
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it?
Your lack of knowledge isn't CCP's responsibility either. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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Natsume Chidori
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Originally by: Abrazzar So you didn't wonder why you got this 120 second self destruct timer instead of being ejected? And you failed to abort the self destruction? And then you go to the GMs and demand reimbursment for your failures. And after being rightfully rejected you cancel your accounts? And now you even make a useless forum thread about it and cry some more?
Good riddance.
How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it?
Because it tells you when you activate it?
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Ascuris Wurm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 -
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I have a friend that accidentally 'Trashed' his new battlecruiser. (Still not sure how he managed to hit yes on the confirmation as well, but...)
He petitioned to their mercy, but didn't get his back, either. It was his fault, not CCP's, so he accepted responsibility for his actions. You should too...
Wurm
"It's never too late to be what you could have been" -George Eliot
Especially in Eve-Online
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Thanos Draicon
EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does.
Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:45:00 -
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Didn't Aurora go through it?
Because I'm fairly sure that I picked up my "Self-destruct can be canceled by pressing self-destruct again" somewhere other than on the forums.
In any case. Can I have your stuff? ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary. |

Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:46:00 -
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About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke...
My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest.
By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone...
I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account....
Oh well....
Live and learn.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
And those same pilots will then run to the plane constructor and blame them for their errors, much like you do, right.... -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:47:00 -
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It never dawned on you to hit the self destruct button again, or ask for help in the multitude of channels that are available to a player in the what, 2+ minutes between self destruct activation and it actually happening?
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Waxau
The Fated Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:47:00 -
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....Its only 90 mil anyhow.....
lol.
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does.
Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
--------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
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Bronson Hughes
The. Conspiracy
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
How could I abort if I didn't know how to do it?
If you actually read the little window that pops up when you first activate the self destruct sequence, it tells you how to de-activate it.
The hardest learned lessons are usually the most expensive. Lessons like, "If you warp scram an Alliance Mate whilst shooting war targets in HiSec instead of activating your remote repper, CONCORD will take a keen interest in your activities and cease them with fierce rapidity."
I'm sorry, but your loss was in no way CCP's fault so you should not get reimbursed for it. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

Ginko Joukai
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:49:00 -
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When you initiate self-destruct it VERY clearly tells you in a popup window at the very center of the screen that to cancel it you need to click on self-destruct again.
You FAIL.
Your stuff... can I have it?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.07 16:56:00 -
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EVE is intended to be a cold, ruthless, harsh, Darwinian-selection game. It's not nearly Darwinian enough, as ilustrated by the countless "minerals are free" types of people, inventors selling below cost, people reacting at a loss and so on and so forth. If you were CARELESS enough to accidentally activate self-destruct, UNATTENTIVE enough to not read on the popup how to cancel it, UNKNOWLEGEABLE enough to know it's your fault and only your fault, then ACT SURPRISED/OFFENDED when the reimbursement is rejected... ...EVE is not for you. Adieu o/
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:01:00 -
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gbye now! have fun playing WoW  _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
...EVE was never the game for you.
Adieu o/ And I don't want your stuff.
Yup, but his point that the "documentation" is craptastic stands. Player Guide documenting the neolitic, Knowledgebase rife with errors... -- Heat, easy to burn your mods by mistake, hard to get it to work when you need it the most. Well designed interface CCP! |
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