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Towman	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:15:00 - [1] I am not a ISK farmer, My corp makes ammo I mine plag. My name is towman. Minning is a ligit business in the game. Please stop fliping my can
Capn' Krunch Gallente Life. Universe. Everything. Wrath.	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:17:00 - [2] Originally by: Towman I am not a ISK farmer, My corp makes ammo I mine plag. My name is towman. Minning is a ligit business in the game. Please stop fliping my can Mine somewhere less populated and you wont get your cans flipped... >-------------------------------------------------< Asteroids are my breakfast cereal.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:18:00 - [3] You put all your earnings in an UNSECURED OPEN can, why don't you just ask everyone in local to come take what they want?
Dierdra Vaal Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:19:00 - [4] if you cannot move to a quieter system (this can often be the easiest solution), try to see if you can use one of the following solutions: 1) Mine into an anchored, password secured Secure Container. OR 2) Team up with a friend (or a 2nd account) with a hauler, and transfer the ore immediately to the hauler. Recruitment Director :: EVE University DV for CSM
Andracin Free Galactic Enterprises Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:22:00 - [5] Like a couple other posters have said, don't mine in populated areas. There are several good locations to mine, far away from the central hub areas where thieves are more common. Use your map and see how many pilots are active in a system, scout it for the roids you want, then go to it.
Kyreax Neuronix	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Towman Please stop fliping my can Pls stop speling thingz rong. K thx bye. --------------------------------------------------- It's a Templar, an Amarr Fighter used by Carriers.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Towman Please stop fliping my can Please stop mining in a can. __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards Don't be a social moron, read and vote after you decide !
DrefsabZN	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:30:00 - [8] Can flipping can be fun gets you kill rights on someone who's to noobish to pay attention :)
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Grarr Dexx You put all your earnings in an UNSECURED OPEN can, why don't you just ask everyone in local to come take what they want? He did, they did, all is as intended. resumes zen pose warp drive active \| nature vraie
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.05.07 17:54:00 - [10] send me monies, and i will stop flipping your cans! ...
Lady Natacha Minmatar Water and Power	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:03:00 - [11] OP needs one of my bumper stickers below for his hull \| \| v
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:03:00 - [12] no. Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Cloora Black River Industries	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:08:00 - [13] I mine into a jet can with a bookmark in it. I have my alt in a Bustard scoop everything up immediatly. No one attempts to flip my can. If they do, my other alt in an Absolution or Harbinger (that has a mining link) pops them. Or I mine solo in my Hulk with two Expanded Cargohold II's and my two Cargo rigs for 17,199m3 of cargo and just mine and redock every 15 minutes or so. When I mine with my alts I use MLU II's in the low instead and pull in 1703m3 of ore per laser per every 159 sec cycle. Try one of those. Now if I could just find a decent belt to use my Hulk in.... This is my Opinion and not that of Black River Industries or any of its members.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:22:00 - [14] Oh for the love of Veldspar! There's nothing more enjoyable to me than watching some hapless idiot flip my mining alt's can. Surprisingly, they never expect to see my main warp on top of them with a battlecruiser. Oh, and by the way, can flippers are flagged to your entire corp. Whine to them, not to us.
Ga'len Wandering Druid of Tranquility	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:22:00 - [15] Edited by: Ga''len on 07/05/2008 18:23:46 Originally by: Towman I am not a ISK farmer, My corp makes ammo I mine plag. My name is towman. Minning is a ligit business in the game. Please stop fliping my can I love messages like these. See this definition for Jettison. Jettison from Wikipedia "A verb meaning to throw or eject from a ship, aircraft or vehicle; or discard or abandon; see marine debris" Discard Abandon If you jet the contents of your cargo, it's in public view. It's 95% public property, save the the can itself that you still own. You are putting something out there for all to see. Remember, EVE is all about risk versus reward. Using a jet can in mining RISKS the contents being taken, the REWARD is a larger place to store the ore as you mine. If you are not willing to endure the risk, don't do it. Man, this expectation that putting something into a jet can is a "safe" place is like expecting to jump off a bridge and not get hurt. Don't want to get hurt, don't jump off the bridge. Don't want to loose your ore, don't use an unsecure method for mining.
Blood Daemon Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:38:00 - [16] troll?? ------------------ Originally by: Treelox CCP, keep your pimp hand strong!!!!
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 18:52:00 - [17] Stop flipping his can and war dec his corp instead. Think of the awesome thread he would post after that happens.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:01:00 - [18] Can flipping is the new cow tipping.
Havohej Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Nexa Necis Stop flipping his can and war dec his corp instead. Think of the awesome thread he would post after that happens. It would be a corphopping thread. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Scilent Enigma Minmatar Vae Victis Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Wild Rho Can flipping is the new cow tipping. I dunno why, but for some reason this made me lol. Thanx for the laugh
Fla'Nor	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:28:00 - [21] Usually a Battlecruiser or something orbiting around your ship is more then enough to discourage a can flipper. Can flippers are all about risk v. reward and tend to use weak ships that can pop a bardge or a mining cruiser. They will shy away from pretty much anything else. Of course the easiest thing is to use the jetcan/secure as a transfer can with a hauler right next to you. I personally think its about time CCP allowed direct ship to ship transfers if you are fleeted with your hauler.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation	Posted - 2008.05.07 19:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Fla'Nor I personally think its about time CCP allowed direct ship to ship transfers if you are fleeted with your hauler. Eh, you technically can do that with carriers. Besides, a secure can or two should be enough to temporarily hold your ore until the hauler gets back from station.
Marlenus Ironfleet Towing And Salvage	Posted - 2008.05.07 23:44:00 - [23] What Celeste said. No. Besides, it's not really your can, anymore, once you've jettisoned it. Not in any practical sense. Possession is the ownership that counts. The rest is decals, paint, and a JCIN (jet can identification number) buried in a Concord database somewhere. You can't pay the bills with decals and database entries, so maybe, don't jettison your stuff into space? ------------------ Ironfleet.com
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:39:00 - [24] please stop mining my asteroids Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
ceyriot Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Towman I am not a ISK farmer I don't care, I'l [x]Flip can anyway [x]Suicide gank you [x]Smack you in local anyway. Originally by: Towman My corp makes ammo And I use it to shoot you, your friends, and your friends mom. Originally by: Towman I mine plag. I shoot people, does that make me special as well? Originally by: Towman My name is towman. Not to be rude, but i think we know. Originally by: Towman Minning is a ligit business in the game. That may be, but Suicide-ganking, can-flipping and smack is legal as well. Originally by: Towman Please stop fliping my can No. Faction Store
Dotard Minmatar Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:51:00 - [26] Enlist a friendly. Have HIM drop the can, u mine into it. He sits close by preferably with some corpies. Flipper comes, flipper dies. Fun had by all. --------------- Nerf You! Buff Me!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.05.08 01:52:00 - [27] Edited by: cal nereus on 08/05/2008 01:54:17 I concur with several existing recommendations: move to a less-populated, quieter system: I remember from my empire mining days that Amarr space was like an empty graveyard, but the graves were filled with candy -- kernite candy. Failing that, try to use secure containers in 0.7 sec space or lower. Granted, they fill up a lot faster and in many cases aren't worth the hassle of setting up, but it's an option at least. If mining solo is not a requirement, you can mine in groups or with protection: probably not worth the hassle for many empire miners, but it's an option on the table at least. If all else fails, just don't mine into a container anymore. There's nothing wrong with mining straight into your hull and docking after every cycle: it guarantees ore security at least. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Marcus Xavier Minmatar Xavier Institute for Higher Learning	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:41:00 - [28] I recommend ninja mining instead of hauling it to the station. It saves time. Here are the five easy steps: a) Set up a safespot a short distance from the belt (say 10,000km). b) Set up several BMs several 10s of km from the belt warp in point that are on the outside of the belt. c) Warp your mining ship to a belt BM, align your ship to the safespot, and mine until your cargohold is filled. d) Warp to your safespot, jettison your ore into a named jetcan, warp back to the belt BM. e) Repeat steps c through e until you're ready to bring out the hauler. If you want to confuse the ore thief and waste his time, drop a jetcan with a few units of ore and ninja mine. Eventually he'll stop bothering you and you might be able to resume your old practices. ---------------- Mutatis Mutandis
Seth Ruin Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation	Posted - 2008.05.08 03:07:00 - [29] Originally by: cal nereus If all else fails, just don't mine into a container anymore. There's nothing wrong with mining straight into your hull and docking after every cycle: it guarantees ore security at least. Precisely. You're still making a living. Granted, not as "efficient" as you might like, but that's the trade-off you get for safety.
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:32:00 - [30] Towman, Although tempting, I won't flame. Instead, I'll provide solutions: 1) Move to a different system and mine. 2) Join a corp or get some friends who wanna blast these can flippers. 3) Mine into anchored secure cans. 4) Get the skills up and fight them. Hopefully these help. Kev
Segge Bolled Caldari Dirty Sexy Pilots New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:39:00 - [31] I anticipate the following process being pursued instead: 1) See the OP whine. 2) Contact a friendly Locator Agent. 3) Profit.
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Towman Please stop fliping my can Please stop mining in a can. Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:44:00 - [33] Originally by: Wild Rho Can flipping is the new cow tipping. Quoting dis as I'm down wit it. Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
Raekone	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:00:00 - [34] You're ALL missing the point, what the hell This is not an issue of the OP not being able to deal with can flipping or thinks it's highly unfair it's happening to him or doesn't understand game mechanics. The OP is simply wondering why people are doing it to him, as he is not an isk farmer or doing anything wrong - he's merely playing the game. Answer: Because they can. If there's one thing people love it's buggering up another mans show. Fact of life, in no ways limited to computer games.
Corduroy Rab Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:15:00 - [35] I have a feeling this thread will have the opposite of the intended effect for you...unless this is a clever ploy to gank can flippers
Genghis Kitty Hello Kitty Online Adventurers	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:18:00 - [36] Who Moved My Cheese? Buy it, read it, profit!
Marlenus Ironfleet Towing And Salvage	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:53:00 - [37] Actually, when I flip cans, I do it because I want the stuff that's inside it. It's all about the stuff. ------------------ Ironfleet.com
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:22:00 - [38] keep mining in a can, think of the poor ore thieves if you don't
Callthetruth Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:32:00 - [39] there are options have ahauler next to u is the most obvious
Navtiqes Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Kev Hunter 3) Mine into anchored secure cans. People seem to dismiss this because secure cans have less cargo space. Solution: anchor multiple secure cans Figure out how many you can fill before your hauler can't fit everything. Then park between them and start mining. It's not that hard as long as you're in systems where you can anchor stuff.
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Navtiqes Originally by: Kev Hunter 3) Mine into anchored secure cans. People seem to dismiss this because secure cans have less cargo space. Solution: anchor multiple secure cans Figure out how many you can fill before your hauler can't fit everything. Then park between them and start mining. It's not that hard as long as you're in systems where you can anchor stuff. Okay, I'll correct myself. 3) Mine into anchored secure cans.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:28:00 - [42] Originally by: Towman Minning is a ligit business in the game. So is piracy. Please get an escort, mine in a less conspicuous place or stop mining in a jetcan. BTW, considering OP hasn't responded even once to a thread that is more than half a day old, this must be a troll. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Clocky	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:50:00 - [43] Ive never tried this but you could. Is it possible to drop off a bunch of GSC and then tractor them to the same spot, Mine into them and then pick them up/tractor them to the next mining spot in the belt. Im aware that someone could pick up the GSC but would they? I mean they cant open them and cant pick them up if they are in small ships anyway. They would have to get a hauler to move them. Its just an idea. I need to try this _)
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:58:00 - [44] Originally by: Clocky Ive never tried this but you could. Is it possible to drop off a bunch of GSC and then tractor them to the same spot, Mine into them and then pick them up/tractor them to the next mining spot in the belt. Im aware that someone could pick up the GSC but would they? I mean they cant open them and cant pick them up if they are in small ships anyway. They would have to get a hauler to move them. Its just an idea. I need to try this _) The only thing keeping someone from looting a GSC is it's password. The password on a GSC only works when it's been anchored. An anchored object can not be towed. I'm afraid your plan is flawed. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:23:00 - [45] Originally by: Wild Rho Can flipping is the new cow tipping. I'm not sure about that… Cow tipping can be pretty dangerous at times
Zaphod Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:25:00 - [46] how about stopping mining (you'll feel better) and telling your corp they can go do it themselves ?
Morrow Disca Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:35:00 - [47] Obvious troll is obvious. My opinions are my own, they may not match the opinions of my Corp or Alliance.
Krollin Minmatar Ki Shoda United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:45:00 - [48] Does help if you actually reply to your own thread.....cough farmer cough Kro
Father Dibbles Self Aggrandisement Society	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Krollin Does help if you actually reply to your own thread.....cough farmer cough Looks like you need some Lockets May god save me, if it is right that he should do so...
Iriana McNuke	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:58:00 - [50] Edited by: Iriana McNuke on 08/05/2008 11:59:27 People WILL flip your can. Period. Posting in forums about that will even bring more flippers to your spot, and whining about ore theft on forums will inflate their epeens. To avoid that. 1. Go to a lev 1 security agent. 2. Roll missions 3. When you find a mission located in an ore area, remove the NPC rats 4. Mine the ore using your jet-can method 5. When the mission is about to expire go back to your agent and report it as finished. 6. Repeat steps 2->5 The method is not 100% secure, advanced players will be able to reach you anyway. But the average can flipper is dumber than a WoW player, so you will be safe from most of thefts. Hope this will help. ----------------------------------------------- I know I'm not insane, the voices told me so.
Echo Vector Gallente The Wild Bunch	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:01:00 - [51] To the OP: Stop whing, do like JNB: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U&feature=related And have a very nice day!
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:46:00 - [52] Originally by: Echo Vector Edited by: Echo Vector on 08/05/2008 12:22:49 Edited by: Echo Vector on 08/05/2008 12:22:09 To the OP: Stop whing, do like JNB: When Carebears Attack And have a very nice day! Did he ever put the soundtracks in that flick to MP3? I'd love to have Approaching 4-4 on my MP3 player. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Gentle Miner School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:57:00 - [53] Try mining in mission deadspace. Run some missions and when you find one with asteroids you can mine it out in relative peace.
Kael Macgilchalium	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Towman My corp makes ammo And I use it to shoot you, your friends, and your friends mom. Quote: Gahdayum! That one made me laugh out loud!
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:01:00 - [55] People seem to forget that you can only anchor one GSC per 5000 m, if you don't anchor them the password will not work!
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Towman I am not a ISK farmer, My corp makes ammo I mine plag. My name is towman. Minning is a ligit business in the game. Please stop fliping my can obvious troll is obvious... IF the initial post wasn't enough, the total lack of any response from the OP should make it obvious. -=^=- My views do not represent my alliance. TBH, my posts do not even represent my own views...I am posting while asleep.
Sral TBear Mark Of Chaos	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:36:00 - [57] where do you mine....out of interest
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.08 21:09:00 - [58] /me takes a note to have his level 4 agent search for "towman" the next time he is in game.
Seth Calhoun Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.08 22:09:00 - [59] Originally by: Towman Please stop fliping my can No As long as you put your valuables into unsecured containers, people will always steal from you. It's like leaving your keys in your unlocked car and hoping no one will drive off with it. ---------- "Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
Marlenus Ironfleet Towing And Salvage	Posted - 2008.05.09 01:34:00 - [60] Edited by: Marlenus on 09/05/2008 01:35:22 Originally by: Clocky Im aware that someone could pick up the GSC but would they? I mean they cant open them and cant pick them up if they are in small ships anyway. They would have to get a hauler to move them. Oh, please do try this! The answer to your question is "Yes, we would pick them up." I once scooped eight GSCs with my Bustard when someone was doing something like this. There was much wailing and lamentation and profanity in local. ------------------ Ironfleet.com

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