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Comrade Commizzar
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Posted - 2008.05.17 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Theos
The funniest thing about your position in zero as a serf is that while you are performing mandatory ops in service to your overlords (all financed out of your pocket, I might add) they are pocketing the proceeds from their moon mining operations (which YOU defend) to fund their PvP and Imperial aspirations. TOTALLY LAUGHABLE IF IT WEREN'T SO SAD. And what do you get out of it?? Well I guess you get to wear their hat and Tee shirt at the fanfest..... THE JOKE'S ON YOU!
QFT!! 
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Gwendion
Gallente No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 03:39:00 -
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Scroll to the last sentence for the primarily on-topic part: --------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Guttripper From a role-playing point of view, any of the factions would not accept an alliance or a corporation with members of its opposite ethnic society within their ranks.
Hello? Did you grow up in a cave? Ever pick up a history book, or read the news lately? Theres this thing called, a "Mercenary". A separate, completely otherwise neutral party, who engages in combat for a Country or cause for money.
Lets go into the history books...
Syrian and Nubia light infantry recruited to fight for Egypt? Check Privateers in the age of the sail? Check. Saika mercenary group in Japan? Check American Volunteer Group in China before WW2? (aka The Flying Tigers) Check Hello, Ninjas? Check. Xerxes I hiring Greek Mercenaries? Check Rome hiring Sons of Mars for the Punic wars? Check Carthage hiring Balearic Slingers for the Punic wars? Check The whole basis of copper and iron aged Celtic/Scottish warfare? Check. The US Government employing (sorry a bit of personal hatred here) turn-coat Indians (feather) against our own people? Check. (Ever heard of an 'Indian Tracker?' yeah I thought so..) The US hiring Blackwater to fight the iraqi war? Check.
I can go on and on with Mercenaries throughout history, and their EXTREMELY Important role to shape our very lives even today. I'll even go so far as to bring in Mercenaries in Eve.. Mordu's legion. Check them out, read their bio (in the backstory section) theyre freaking Gallente/Caldari War vets whom the Caldari State routinely uses.
I say, Let us 0.0 Alliances do something! Mercenaries Unite!
------------------------------------------------------ Now on to the PvP Ranting... all of you suck. Carebear, Pirate and 0.0 Minions alike. No seriously, you suck. Not a single one of you can actually fight. Take it from one person in the last Alliance from the Northern Collation still down south kicking butts and salvaging wrecks. YOU ALL SUCK.
Repeat after me:
* Blobbing is not PvP. * Ganking Carebears in Belts/Missions is not PvP. * Gate Camping (mostly..) is not PvP * Hot-dropping Carriers is not PvP. * POS bashing is not PvP. (Actually its rusty spoon eye gouging fun! Now with Vitamin B)
Small gang warfare *IS* PvP. 5-10 people on roaming ops, engaging another 5-20 people is what PvP is, and what Factional warfare will create (hopefuly) We have been extremely lucky these last few weeks to engage in quite alot of small gang PvP down south. Luckily for us, we (the corp and I) are extremely experienced in this form of warfare already, and we haven't really lost a battle that we weren't outnumbered 4-1 yet. (We have won 3-1 odds on several occasions) This is real PvP, Tactics, surprise, and forethought.
What have I learned? No matter how big you talk.. your epeen != PvP skill. (Ask the former members of Brotherhood of Steel when we single handily destroyed that alliance because they were a bunch of stupid, big mouthed carebears who ended up joining CVA and STILL getting their lossmails handed to them multiple times a day, yeah thats right, I know who started this thread)
So.. Quiet all of you on this. Most of you couldn't PvP your way out of a Wet paper EFT fitting, let alone actual combat. --------------------------------- .... Im gonna hate myself in the morning for agreeing with the OP.. but I think there should be an Alliance level Mercenary mechanic to the whole Faction Warfare thing.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2008.05.17 04:43:00 -
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dam! this chick is bad ass.. 
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.17 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 17/05/2008 06:21:12
I'm trying to get a grip on what will actually happen in Empire and in lowSec.
I'm going to assume that gate camps in LowSec will become even more prevalent by dint of more potential targets wanting to engage in the FW stuff there.
All the Empire prats that left LowSec to annoy people in HighSec may or may not go back and hang in Low. I don't see LowSec specific Pirates of any stripe opting in to FW really, no reason to do so that I can see as long as theres a gate to sit, but maybe I am wrong.
The Empire bears that mission run remember losing their CNR in the farce that was the first attempt to lure peeps into LowSec and, if they DO opt in to FW, it'll probably be straight Empire stuff.
Some other bored Empire peeps may opt in and try it out, but they will probably use an alt or wait and watch the forums for the whines concerning FW before deciding.
Peeps like RvB will rejoice and go apesh*t trying to decide what Faction to do. New Corps will likely arise for straight FW intent.
Mercs... one would think mercs would be shooting themselves in the foot by opting in to FW.
n00bs...rookies won't know wtf is going on, as usual, and will continue to die in droves no matter what they decide. Eventually, they will see a profit in following around FW gangs or sitting gates and loot thieving. I remember the good old days when the privs were getting loot thieved by hundreds of n00bs in Ibises and Bantams.
Traders will avoid opting in like the plague.
Empire Miners would be foolish to opt in as well.
What else...
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Guttripper
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:30:00 -
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Re: Gwendion
My interpretation of this expansion, which could be wrong, is that this is a racially motivated war. Similar to how **** Germany saw Catholics, homosexuals, Jews, etc. - a good one is a dead one. Or radical Islamic extremists of today considering anyone other than an Islam faithful to be marked for death. This is a war of purity of the race - the empyrean aspect to the expansion's name. Again, from the role playing aspect, why should any of the four races accept anyone that does not believe in their cause and only are willing to work for money ala mercenaries? Or how the loyalty of mercenaries to the empire society was dropped to form another society ala alliance? Since you're Gallente and I am Caldarian, the hatred between us should be intense where bigotry and genocide are our only thoughts towards the other and our respected kind. But are you a pure and true Gallente to willingly kill your fellow Caldarian corp mates and alliance members without concern or remorse? Or do you wish to just wtfbbqpwn anything and everything while raking in profits hand over fist by continuing to fly with your multiple ethnic friends that come first and foremost?
Now you might understand why I believe CCP excluded alliances for this expansion - your friends come first over your racial affairs.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:42:00 -
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Jakke Logan: Most clueless sock puppet on EvE-O
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.30 19:51:00 -
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Man why you got to pull the thread out of the casket? I was about to bury it.
/me whines and puts down the shovel in defeat.
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Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.30 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kelli Flay Jakke Logan: Most clueless sock puppet on EvE-O
be nice, he was totally right about nobody at all playing FW. i mean, there's what, like 100 people total across the 4 factions? i mean, my corp is bigger than that. - -
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