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Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 86	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:00:00 - [1] - Quote The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why?
Grumpy Owly 298	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote EvE uses Funsics Bounty Hunting for CSM 7 Stop EvE Apathy
Karadion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 485	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:02:00 - [3] - Quote Because this is a space game. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5258	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:04:00 - [4] - Quote Because a Saturn V rocket doesn't have a warp drive to slow it down. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 594	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:06:00 - [5] - Quote 1) that isn't the Saturn Vs top speed. Its top speed is whatever it reaches before it runs out of fuel. Unless you are referring only to atmospheric speed, in which case the comparison is pointless as our ships cannot under any circumstances enter an oxygen atmosphere. 2) our ships propulsion system has limits to the speed because the faster they go, the more [insert technobabble term here] drag force they experience.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 825	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote The Saturn V flies through the vacuum of space. On the other side of the EVE gate space is made of some weird liquid. Hard to get a good head of steam going when you have that to deal with. EDIT: Sorry Corina, should have read more carefully your point number two before saying the same bloody thing. Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too!
Super Chair Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing 165	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:18:00 - [7] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: 1) that isn't the Saturn Vs top speed. Its top speed is whatever it reaches before it runs out of fuel. Unless you are referring only to atmospheric speed, in which case the comparison is pointless as our ships cannot under any circumstances enter an oxygen atmosphere. 2) our ships propulsion system has limits to the speed because the faster they go, the more [insert technobabble term here] drag force they experience. You do realize that drag forces really do not exist in a vacuum?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5259	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:21:00 - [8] - Quote Super Chair wrote: You do realize that drag forces really do not exist in a vacuum? GÇªbut that's what the warp engines do: the same mechanics that lets them create folds in space that allow for above-light-speeds also create drag forces against normal space-time. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 169	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:22:00 - [9] - Quote Because CCP nerfed Nano when they launched Dominion. They needed a red herring to keep people busy while they ****** over Caldari missles and Sov in general.
Im Super Gay Hedion University Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:27:00 - [10] - Quote Saturn V rockets don't have armor, shield generators, a warp drive or weapons to weigh it down. Also if you go above 15 km/s you can cause desync on the eve servers, unless they fixed that
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 61	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:31:00 - [11] - Quote EVE ships don't need to go that fast because we have warp drives. Any distance that you would need to cover to justify going that fast can instantly be covered with a quick warp.
Brock Nelson 408	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:39:00 - [12] - Quote /emote looks through his standard forum response Ah...found it OP is American Signature removed, CCP Phantom
Son I'm Disappointed 0	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:41:00 - [13] - Quote Son...in a game where you can warp through planets, physics don't count for ****
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 159	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:43:00 - [14] - Quote This is a vid game Its not reality Caught on a rant slide No excuse for reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see I'm just a pod boy I extrude apathy Because its easy isk don't you know? Play balance, let it go Any speed the ship goes doesn't really matter to me to me Arua, got killed again They put a blaster 'gainst my head Pulled their trigger now I'm dead Arua, life had just begun But now I am over twenty jumps away. Arua, oo oo oo ooo Didn't mean to pop and fry I'd better not get podded again tomorrow Implants gone, carry on, now doesn't even matter Too late, my armors gone Getting bumped I can't align Cap is gone I'm out of time Goodbye everybody Its time to clone Gotta leave this all behind and face the truth Arua, oo oo oo oooo I don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been cloned at all... (you get the idea) I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3373	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:49:00 - [15] - Quote Eve uses gravity drives which is why we probably can afford the oddest looking ships but FTL as well. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Xiozor League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda 23	Posted - 2012.03.06 02:12:00 - [16] - Quote EVE is a Sci-fi submarine game.
Alexa Coates Lexa And Rob Industries 66	Posted - 2012.03.06 03:11:00 - [17] - Quote Because you touch yourself at night, OP Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships!
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School 96	Posted - 2012.03.06 03:14:00 - [18] - Quote Because EVE ships fly in water.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 594	Posted - 2012.03.06 03:28:00 - [19] - Quote Just realized, on a solar level, sitting in my chair right now I go faster than any ship in EVE (not warping). Since nothing orbits the stars in game.
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 138	Posted - 2012.03.06 03:33:00 - [20] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: The Saturn V flies through the vacuum of space. On the other side of the EVE gate space is made of some weird liquid. Hard to get a good head of steam going when you have that to deal with. EDIT: Sorry Corina, should have read more carefully your point number two before saying the same bloody thing. Mr Epeen if we look at the amount of nebulas in sapce in New Eden, could we not surmise that Eden sapce is filled with hyper-energetic particles that facilitate the ability for warp-drives to function by causing physics-distorting effects on the environment? and that these same particles are responsible for all the weird minerals developed in asteroids, and why we can visibly see Scan Rez booster's wave-frequencies?
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 87	Posted - 2012.03.06 03:55:00 - [21] - Quote Well there is the issue of gravity. We have gravity wells all over the place such as planets, stars, and moons. Maybe that just creates some strange interference with our ship engines. Hey, that gives me a pretty interesting idea about ship velocities and what if they would vary based on the number of AU you are from a gravity well? The further they are, the faster everybody goes
Raiz Nhell DEEP CORPS 27	Posted - 2012.03.06 04:13:00 - [22] - Quote I would love to see Voyager or similar extra-solar probe come floating through the EVE-verse... And does the m in m\s stand for metre? It may be just an arbitrary m :) I also thought that things did orbit in EVE, but we haven't really been around long enough to notice... I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow... Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 87	Posted - 2012.03.06 04:15:00 - [23] - Quote Raiz Nhell wrote: I would love to see Voyager or similar extra-solar probe come floating through the EVE-verse... And does the m in m\s stand for metre? It may be just an arbitrary m :) I also thought that things did orbit in EVE, but we haven't really been around long enough to notice... It stands for meters/second.
Skorpynekomimi Omega Vector 128	Posted - 2012.03.06 04:36:00 - [24] - Quote Because the Saturn V is a multi-stage chemical rocket designed to get off the ground and out of orbit. The acceleration is vast, there's huge amounts of power, and it still has to shed used engines and empty fuel tanks on the way up. It was built on the ground, in a gravity well. Not in space. It had a tiny cargo on board. Three men and a few small ships. EVE ships are faster than light, thanks to the warp drive. Sublight speeds aren't so important.
Ascendic Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities 47	Posted - 2012.03.06 04:47:00 - [25] - Quote Super Chair wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: 1) that isn't the Saturn Vs top speed. Its top speed is whatever it reaches before it runs out of fuel. Unless you are referring only to atmospheric speed, in which case the comparison is pointless as our ships cannot under any circumstances enter an oxygen atmosphere. 2) our ships propulsion system has limits to the speed because the faster they go, the more [insert technobabble term here] drag force they experience. You do realize that drag forces really do not exist in a vacuum? Actually it does brah, and the closer you get to the speed of light the amount of drag increases almost exponentially.
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 87	Posted - 2012.03.06 05:27:00 - [26] - Quote Ascendic wrote: Super Chair wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: 1) that isn't the Saturn Vs top speed. Its top speed is whatever it reaches before it runs out of fuel. Unless you are referring only to atmospheric speed, in which case the comparison is pointless as our ships cannot under any circumstances enter an oxygen atmosphere. 2) our ships propulsion system has limits to the speed because the faster they go, the more [insert technobabble term here] drag force they experience. You do realize that drag forces really do not exist in a vacuum? Actually it does brah, and the closer you get to the speed of light the amount of drag increases almost exponentially. It's not drag it's the amount of energy it takes to make it go faster just increases. Totally different and not realivent for the size of an interceptor.
Valentyn3 Deep Core Mining Inc. 85	Posted - 2012.03.06 05:52:00 - [27] - Quote Be happy the ships fly strait at all. The ship designers failed physics 101 with an F- and filled the game with asymmetrical thrusters. EVE why u no obey Newtonian Physics? Sure wish I could fit med artillery on my frigate to. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Stonecold Steve I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans 53	Posted - 2012.03.06 07:15:00 - [28] - Quote saturn rockets dont have TiDi, hence they go faster. GÇ£Quod licet Iovi non licet boviGÇ¥- Gods may do what cattle may not."-á-
Opertone Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 114	Posted - 2012.03.06 08:05:00 - [29] - Quote Everyone's mom knows how to Vacuum. Instead, warp drive deforms space time, no drag, no travel. Just a shortcut. Space is not empty, it is full of gravity, energy, gasses, particles, Space is dense! But its density is low, very low. Gravity, waves are another form of matter.
Orator de Umbras Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2012.03.06 09:26:00 - [30] - Quote Instead of moving the ship, the engine moves the universe around the ship. Moving the universe a whopping 5km/s is a pretty amazing feat. . .
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 83	Posted - 2012.03.06 09:48:00 - [31] - Quote Saturn V is an engine strapped to a fuel tank and little else. Eve ships have guns, shields, armor, manuverability. It's like asking why a rally car can't go as fast as a dragster.
Ptraci StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound. 394	Posted - 2012.03.06 11:01:00 - [32] - Quote Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? I challenge you to find the Saturn V (or any man made space vehicle for that matter) that can turn around and head in the other direction within a couple seconds (ok minutes in the case of freighters/capitals). I mean, if you want to split hairs and all.
To mare Advanced Technology 20	Posted - 2012.03.06 12:19:00 - [33] - Quote Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? because a bunch of morons wanted CCP to nerf nanoships
Gerrick Palivorn Caldari Provisions Caldari State 165	Posted - 2012.03.06 12:34:00 - [34] - Quote Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tF1Up_xXSI Ok not combat effective but you get the point.
Grikath T.E.L.O.G.S. 17	Posted - 2012.03.06 12:42:00 - [35] - Quote What PtracI said... The Saturn V does not do Curves In Space. It is a ballistic object. Fast, but you can't steer it past nudging it against the curve of the local gravity well. ( which means you have to brake...owait.. it only goes faster...) EVE starship drives use a speculative drive that lets you achieve FTL when warping and something that looks/feels a lot like a gravity(well) drive for sublight speeds. Besides solid founding in SF lore, both types (or even a dual application of the same drive) are theoretically (read: quantum mechanics/relativity theory math headache) possible, with caveats. Both in SF as in theory, the drive(s) involved are limited, since they must act against the Real World, and thus perform work. This means a limit to the maximum speed that can be reached, defined by the amount of energy you put into it versus [a lot of problems]. Even the smallest spaceships in EVE has a powerplant that can happily provide for a small town, and a computer system that could go head-to-head with your average modern-day supercluster, but they are still limited in energy and computational power. This amount of energy/computational power is still puny compared to the values the RL theoretical drives would need. Between Boffin theory, the constraints of expectations this translated into in SF lore, and the vagaries of game design, CCP actually managed to get a decent "feel" in how a proper spacedrive would perform in this game: Limited straight line speed, limited orbit speed/radius, and limited FTL speed, all based on the mass/power/inertia ratio of the ships involved. Quite nifty, really.

CCP Greyscale C C P C C P Alliance 573	Posted - 2012.03.06 12:52:00 - [36] - Quote If we let ships go much faster, the invisible space whales wouldn't be able to get out of the way in time. (Obviously the real reason is "because it makes for a better game": the actual lengths of ships give us a reference distance, and we want combat to happen "within visual range" so that fights live up to people's visual expectations, and there's only so fast you can have ships going at a given scale before the ability for the average person to usefully control them drops off drastically. That's how I'd reason it, at least.)

Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1357	Posted - 2012.03.06 13:08:00 - [37] - Quote Did this Saturn V actually reached such velocity in space ? Not sure, but there is probably some limitation of material, Space is not just vacuum filled with nothing, there is a lot of dust.
Velicitia Open Designs 738	Posted - 2012.03.06 13:24:00 - [38] - Quote Fredfredbug4 wrote: Plus there comes a point where a ship can be "too fast". Eventually the ship would be moving so fast that they just overshoot their target and waste time and put themselves at risk when they need to lower their speed drastically to turn around. They've gone plaid!
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:05:00 - [39] - Quote The saturn V has to reach escape velocity from the planet's gravitational field. Spaceships in Eve are already in space to start with.
Bubanni SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353 127	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:11:00 - [40] - Quote I been able to make a cynabal go about 13-14km/s or 14000m/s :P so ships in eve can go faster than that wolololol but you could say it's because of the warp drive module, (in RP it says it also slows down the ship when engines aren't running) which would explain it all if you want another reason, IE; the warp drive ability that makes your ship able to warp from place to place is actually slowing down your ship when your not using it
Neechi HollanderDanny Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Fatal Ascension 2	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:17:00 - [41] - Quote Would be easier to change current speed designations from 1.000 m/s to 1.000 km/s, while nothing functionally happens.
Chatha Gathii Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:22:00 - [42] - Quote The Saturn V lacks agility and is a ***** to fit. (All the launcher points are on the first stage, and don't get me started on the lack of CPU.) Trust me, you wouldn't want to fly one. Complete fail, Werner von Braun.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 834	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:54:00 - [43] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: On the other side of the EVE gate space is made of some weird liquid. Hard to get a good head of steam going when you have that to deal with. Now that explains why Wallente is slow as hell ! I'm finally enjoying my rusty submarines
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 804	Posted - 2012.03.06 14:54:00 - [44] - Quote Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? ive seen cap stable fleet stabbers go faster VOTE SKIPPERMONKEY FOR CSM - TERRIBAD AT EVE BUT GREAT AT FORUMS show your support for me here
Hippie en Thielles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.06 15:43:00 - [45] - Quote Karadion wrote: Because this is a space game. This is NOT a space game. It is a submarine game. But that saturn rocket in the water and see how fast it goes.
Terazul The Scope Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.03.06 16:20:00 - [46] - Quote Pretty much what the CCP guy said. Alternatively, consider that the ships in EVE don't actually burn any fuel to move around; this means they're not using conventional thrusters to move around. In my view, they're actually moving the universe around them, hence the ship slowing down when it is not actively attempting to move.
McRoll Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 36	Posted - 2012.03.06 16:28:00 - [47] - Quote If Eve ships move through fluid, then why do Caldaris build something like a Moa, which besides being totally unaesthetic, couldn't move through anything denser than vacuum due to its shape? I want more visually pleasant, aerodynamic shaped ships like Firetails which could fly through atmosphere even judging by look and shape.
My Neutral Toon Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni 18	Posted - 2012.03.06 16:31:00 - [48] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: Just realized, on a solar level, sitting in my chair right now I go faster than any ship in EVE (not warping). Since nothing orbits the stars in game. imagine the dynamic that would bring.... If your POS tower was in a different place each time Just imagine the impacts for catch bubbles... ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious....
Taedrin Kushan Industrial 364	Posted - 2012.03.06 16:34:00 - [49] - Quote Nobody remembers the 16+km/s phoons anymore... Or for that matter, the double/triple MWD scorpions.
Esan Vartesa Samarkand Financial 178	Posted - 2012.03.06 17:35:00 - [50] - Quote My Neutral Toon wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: Just realized, on a solar level, sitting in my chair right now I go faster than any ship in EVE (not warping). Since nothing orbits the stars in game. imagine the dynamic that would bring.... If your POS tower was in a different place each time Just imagine the impacts for catch bubbles... You'd need private beacons instead of bookmarks. Anything orbiting a planet, and thus a moon, would. Do gates orbit planets or are they stationary? Imagine the dynamic visuals this would create...
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 596	Posted - 2012.03.06 20:54:00 - [51] - Quote McRoll wrote: If Eve ships move through fluid, then why do Caldaris build something like a Moa, which besides being totally unaesthetic, couldn't move through anything denser than vacuum due to its shape? I want more visually pleasant, aerodynamic shaped ships like Firetails which could fly through atmosphere even judging by look and shape. The fluid that they move through isn't physical. Its an interaction with the warp drive. All the drag on our ships is caused by the existence of our warp drives. So, the shape of the ship maters not. And the Firetail still couldn't fly through an oxy atmosphere... it would just combust.
Skorpynekomimi Omega Vector 128	Posted - 2012.03.06 21:01:00 - [52] - Quote Esan Vartesa wrote: My Neutral Toon wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: Just realized, on a solar level, sitting in my chair right now I go faster than any ship in EVE (not warping). Since nothing orbits the stars in game. imagine the dynamic that would bring.... If your POS tower was in a different place each time Just imagine the impacts for catch bubbles... You'd need private beacons instead of bookmarks. Anything orbiting a planet, and thus a moon, would. Do gates orbit planets or are they stationary? Imagine the dynamic visuals this would create... In my mind, bookmarks ARE basically coordinates for personal beacons. And I figure computers are advanced enough in EVE to account for celestial movements in bookmarks. As for EVE ships flying through atmosphere... Show info on tritanium sometime, then look at the blueprint for a given ship. Tritanium is pyrophoric.
GreasyCarl Semah A Game as Old as Empire 11	Posted - 2012.03.06 21:04:00 - [53] - Quote Eve ships fly in some bizarre liquid, let's call it space gravy. And this space gravy has bits of sausage (asteroids) in it that you can mine for space cash. Don't ask questions.
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 164	Posted - 2012.03.06 22:19:00 - [54] - Quote GreasyCarl Semah wrote: Eve ships fly in some bizarre liquid, let's call it space gravy. And this space gravy has bits of sausage (asteroids) in it that you can mine for space cash. Don't ask questions. That would explain the nebula in Domain, it is a sunny-side-up egg nebula. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do
Dirk Magnum Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan 223	Posted - 2012.03.06 22:32:00 - [55] - Quote Im Super Gay wrote: Saturn V rockets don't have armor, shield generators, a warp drive or weapons to weigh it down. Pure unadulterated horseflop. The Saturn V, like all manned spacecraft of yesterday and today, was armed to the teeth against the perceived threat of hostile extraterrestrial entities. I believe in this conspiracy with gusto. Gusto! Ever since I made it up five seconds ago. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB
Rei Seiji Production N Destruction INC. The Last Chancers. 17	Posted - 2012.03.06 22:40:00 - [56] - Quote The Saturn V flies through space faster because it's more aerodynamic. Eve Ships, meanwhile, cause way too much drag with all of their bumps and turrets and lights. Which is also the explanation why Minmatar ships are the slowest ships in the galaxy. (Everyone else just goes slower than them because they're too busy laughing at those duct taped rusted metal plates they call ships.) Also the Saturn V had stripes. Not a lot of stripes, but still, it's scientifically proven that stripes make your ships go faster.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 526	Posted - 2012.03.06 22:59:00 - [57] - Quote What Ive been using as an explanation for our ship speed and movement: Our ships are not rocket ships. The engine exhaust vents you see just the discharge products from the on board power generators and no more propels your ship than the exhaust on a car propels the car. What does happen is the power produced by those generators goes to a gravity drive that moves your ship relative to the nearest dominant gravitating mass, be it a station, moon, planet or star. The design of your ship and its gravity drive limits how fast you can move relative to that nearby mass. Now, if you want stations, moons and planets to move in their orbits, there is a way. I am running for the CSM. Take a look at my ideas. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
OT Smithers Cult of Baal 113	Posted - 2012.03.07 00:23:00 - [58] - Quote MadMuppet wrote: This is a vid game Its not reality Caught on a rant slide No excuse for reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see I'm just a pod boy I extrude apathy Because its easy isk don't you know? Play balance, let it go Any speed the ship goes doesn't really matter to me to me Arua, got killed again They put a blaster 'gainst my head Pulled their trigger now I'm dead Arua, life had just begun But now I am over twenty jumps away. Arua, oo oo oo ooo Didn't mean to pop and fry I'd better not get podded again tomorrow Implants gone, carry on, now doesn't even matter Too late, my armors gone Getting bumped I can't align Cap is gone I'm out of time Goodbye everybody Its time to clone Gotta leave this all behind and face the truth Arua, oo oo oo oooo I don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been cloned at all... (you get the idea) EPIC!
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 90	Posted - 2012.03.07 01:05:00 - [59] - Quote Rei Seiji wrote: The Saturn V flies through space faster because it's more aerodynamic. They're aerodynamic in a vacuum?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1299	Posted - 2012.03.07 02:15:00 - [60] - Quote The Saturn V is "all engine", EvE ships are not. The Saturn series, like the others, had to escape gravity too, and hence the need to be "all engine". The same is said for the space shuttle. From the appearance of things, anti-gravity exists in this game, and hence no need for ships to have multi-stage launch systems needing enough thrust to break gravity. I am sure if we begged enough we could get an "all engine" ship that can go really fast, and do nothing else. It would be good only for bumping Titans. (why anyone would need to, who knows?)
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn 307	Posted - 2012.03.07 14:06:00 - [61] - Quote Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? if you compared the saturn rocket's size & mass to a rifter's size and mass you would understand why. also a saturn rocket doesnt go very far before it runs out of fuel. Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Amy Elteam No Bull Ships 8	Posted - 2012.03.07 14:34:00 - [62] - Quote Gerrick Palivorn wrote: Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tF1Up_xXSI Ok not combat effective but you get the point. Excellent video sir. I notice the creator of the video is standing for election to the CSM - people hsould vote for him/her.
Orion Batman No Bull Ships 3	Posted - 2012.03.07 14:36:00 - [63] - Quote David Grogan wrote: Acac Sunflyier wrote: The Saturn V at max speed goes 25,000 mph. That is about 11176m/s. Excluding the use of a warp drive, not one of our can go faster than that. Why? if you compared the saturn rocket's size & mass to a rifter's size and mass you would understand why. also a saturn rocket doesnt go very far before it runs out of fuel. The saturn V is about twice as long as a rifter, but a lot skinnier.
Valentyn3 Deep Core Mining Inc. 92	Posted - 2012.03.07 14:42:00 - [64] - Quote It's because the magic pixie dust that we use to fly across the stars without ever having to refuel can only propel our space boats so fast. Any faster and weird space time **** happens and the Doctor shows up to talk about how much he loves bow ties. EVE why u no obey Newtonian Physics? Sure wish I could fit med artillery on my frigate to. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg

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