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Doppleganger
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.21 18:03:00 -
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Personally I like the looks of my vigil/cheetah but I'm fine with the probe/cheetah as long as it has its bigger cargo and if they add maybe a high slot.
Glad to see the change coming.
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Bronson Hughes
The. Conspiracy
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Posted - 2008.05.21 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Doppleganger Personally I like the looks of my vigil/cheetah but I'm fine with the probe/cheetah as long as it has its bigger cargo and if they add maybe a high slot.
Glad to see the change coming.
I doubt that CCP will be changing any of the stats on the ships getting new hulls; they're already 'balanced' relative to each other (at least according to CCP) so incorporating the stats of the new hulls would likely throw that balance off. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

Guillame Herschel
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.21 18:18:00 -
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Can't say I'm unhappy. My Covert Ops character flies Minmatar and Amarr Covert Ops and EAS ships, so now he gets a little variety in his hangar, instead of variations on just two hulls.
The Probe has that slapdash look a Minmatar ship should have. I like it.
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Nikkan Synn
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Posted - 2008.05.21 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nikkan Synn on 21/05/2008 18:28:45
Originally by: Grarr Dexx Last time I heard, you skilled up for a ship for it's abilities, not it's looks 
Also, why are you whining about the looks of a ship that will be in cloak 95% of it's miserable lifespan?
where do people get this being cloaked 95% of time stuff from just maybe I dont want to see that goofy ass looking Imicus hull in cloaked form think about that. Also, what is point if being cloaked when I am traveling through <empty 0.0> systems especially Empire
FAIL!
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Rutoo
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.21 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Xeserox Okay... NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!
Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Anathema model changed from Crucifier -> MAGNATE!!!!! Sexy New Anathema
So you all are sitting there... Why isn't XX happy? The Magnate is beautiful, and uber Rare.... We all can fly one.
Which is why i don't want that. I own a Silver Magnate. I love my silver magnate. I've owned one since January 2004. I don't want everyone to be flying around in it.. calling an an anthema.
The imicus and the probe needed some tech 2 loving... but OMG they are ugly.
Please please please.. oh goodness no.... don't ruin my magnate and let everyone else fly them.
(though something tells me they are on sisi and hence why the pics are out.)
If anything the price of the remaining 14ish Magnates would go up in the eyes of the some of the owners. They would look on the variations tab and see it, wonder about the history of it. I don't like this change but I'll deal. And as long as ccp doesn't add any more silvers or golds in the game I'll be happy.
If you look at it this way - Entity owns 4 of them - He ain't selling, i own 1, turned down 32 billion to sell it. I don't plan on selling it either.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.21 20:57:00 -
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MAGNATE!!!!!
Ive wanted this model for sooooooo long, going to train frig V for it :D
Sahriah Bloodstone Pilot of The Crimson Federation
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Scilent Enigma
Vae Victis Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.21 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jantje Smit
Cheetah model changed from Vigil -> Probe Ugly New Cheetah
No... please CCP no.. please tell me it's some kind of joke... PLEASE... This is without a doubt the by far most disgusting change I have ever witnessed. Please don't ruin the Cheetah for us.. This is a joke right? Seriously? |

Dapper Danny
Biogen Explorations
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Posted - 2008.05.21 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dapper Danny on 21/05/2008 22:37:22 Ahck... at least give the new probe hulled cheetah green glowing windows like the Current Vigil model.
Please.
*sigh* guess ill just have to train up amarr frig 5 and fly a magnate hulled cov-ops. |

MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.05.21 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Jantje Smit -Align button! (no more double clicks *mouse cheers*)
Thats a surprisingly beautiful change - now lets give it to fleet commander so he or she can align the fleet please 
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Dihania
Mucho Dolor
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Posted - 2008.05.21 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rutoo
I can see the changes already on Teamspeak - "Probe jumping in, WTF THE PROBE Cloaked hahahhahahahaha" Other guy - "dude thats the new covetops model. Doh.
Thats epic, we'll get used to it. Just brings them more in line with the story and the line. |

VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.21 23:21:00 -
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There is no way that the imicus model is acceptable for the helios.
The helios is probably the best looking ship with the trinity graphics, and the imicus the worst looking one.
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syphurous
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.22 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa The Helios is an awesome ship. I DEMAND that if you're going to take an Imicus hull and make it into the Helios you maintain the Imicus' 15m3 dronebay and boost the Helios' dronebay to match.
I second this ( if someone else hasn't already ).
Help make up for our missing 3 highslot !
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.05.22 02:45:00 -
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The Imicus is an ugly ship. It looks like a big stab of metal supported by a smaller stab of metal. The Heilos on the other hand has the look and feel of a sneaky covert opts frigate. Its compact design, the pulsating atteni, it really just shouts that its a ship on a mission. CCP DONT CHANGE IT! |

Daan Sai
HAZCON Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.22 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Any change to the Navy Apoc bonuses?
Yep, it has the range bonuses now.
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Segge Bolled
Dirty Sexy Pilots
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Posted - 2008.05.22 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Any change to the Navy Apoc bonuses?
Actually, has anyone checked this yet? |

Space Explorer
Evil Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2008.05.22 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Space Explorer on 22/05/2008 07:39:14 Besides from being ugly, will the changed covops also use the bonus from their T1 counterparts?
Cheetah was good because of the slot layout and speed, if it will be more in line with the Probe it will be one of the worst ( cargosapce bonus )
Also i dont quite see the logic used to change it to their astro counterparts. Covops where the first T2 ships in game, changing it after so long, for reasons of things being added after more then 3 years is not a very valid reason, it kinda breaks the feeling of the game when you do that.
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Reven Cordelle
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Posted - 2008.05.22 08:05:00 -
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Loving the new Cheetah model, the Vigil hull looks incredibly ********, but i'm not a fan of ships that take the stance of fenceposts. (They look especially dumb when taking a banking turn too).
Hope FCs get the Align To as a group command.
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Tissa
Alice in Wonderland Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.05.22 08:21:00 -
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The navy omen is pwn, it can actually fit a full rack of guns for a start. The Navy Scythe has missile bonus and a nice big cargo bay
Amarr LP now worth 4 x the amount of minmater.
Great, well done ccp and here was me thinking you could do no wrong. For the love of god change the damn bonus on the scythe. |

Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.05.22 10:29:00 -
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Caldari Navy Caracal gots a new launcher now and some fitting bonus,
What about all the other faction ships?
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Tyrantus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.22 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Space Explorer Besides from being ugly, will the changed covops also use the bonus from their T1 counterparts?
Nothing about the cov ops were changed except the model. They are exactly the same now as before. |

Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.22 11:03:00 -
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As exciting as a new skin for the cov ops is. (Sarcasm)
Am I reading this right???????
CCP is introducing the Magnate as the 6th amarr frigate?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
They all ready have 3 combat frigs, so does this mean they are changing one of the existing ships?
I'm totally confuzzled.
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CaptainSeafort
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.22 11:33:00 -
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Surely the solution to this is to swap the T1 Ewar and Astrometrics frigates models over, thus preserving the sexiness of the current Helios etc, and not leaving inventors with the wrong BPO. =/
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5pinDizzy
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.05.22 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 22/05/2008 11:47:30
I always liked the Anathema the way it was, and possibly other people did too were it not for the vocal minority calling it down. Its razor thin profile felt "cov op'ish" and was a cool, sleek design in my eyes.
Now we're left with yet another prawn but with rocket boosters attached. Thx a lot.
A hope your new Helios is 10 times uglier then it already looks.
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Rutoo
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.22 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
CCP were always emphasizing how they'd stay true to the original models in the Trinity update. But I guess they're backpedalling on that now and making it another worthless sentiment by them which doesnt mean anything.
It's always the people who complain the loudest who get their way, It's happened with the Magnate - the few spoke out and wanted it becuase Amarr was missing a frig. This after CCP clearly stated when the Magante model was given out that this "Model" of frig would never be given out again. Way to go CCP.
The idea of changing ship types also of the Covert ops is stupid also. As i said in a previous post. The models have been that way for 3 years+. And we've come to adapt them as our own, now ccp is going back and saying ....Oops we made a bad 3 years ago and are correcting it now. Ya..Ok..No. Change the models on the newer T2 frigs (Electonric attack frig) to the unused models. It would be more accepted. Plus the Magnate would be much better as an electronic attack frig. Same for Probe. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.22 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rutoo
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
CCP were always emphasizing how they'd stay true to the original models in the Trinity update. But I guess they're backpedalling on that now and making it another worthless sentiment by them which doesnt mean anything.
It's always the people who complain the loudest who get their way, It's happened with the Magnate - the few spoke out and wanted it becuase Amarr was missing a frig. This after CCP clearly stated when the Magante model was given out that this "Model" of frig would never be given out again. Way to go CCP.
The idea of changing ship types also of the Covert ops is stupid also. As i said in a previous post. The models have been that way for 3 years+. And we've come to adapt them as our own, now ccp is going back and saying ....Oops we made a bad 3 years ago and are correcting it now. Ya..Ok..No. Change the models on the newer T2 frigs (Electonric attack frig) to the unused models. It would be more accepted. Plus the Magnate would be much better as an electronic attack frig. Same for Probe.
So you would switch a ship model to a t1 variant that doesn't share it's t1 frig bonuses with????
The change makes perfect sense, I never understood why the probe had an astro bonus if it wasn't the cov ops ship. Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Rutoo
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.22 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
So you would switch a ship model to a t1 variant that doesn't share it's t1 frig bonuses with????
The change makes perfect sense, I never understood why the probe had an astro bonus if it wasn't the cov ops ship.
It would have made sense 2 years ago, but after 3 years of the same model and it changing now. That doesn't make sense. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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Dictum Factum
Gemini Sun Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.05.22 14:04:00 -
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Yay, Imicus love!
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.22 14:14:00 -
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So yeah, are amarr getting a NEW t1 frigate????? Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:35:00 -
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ahhh someone help me out here, are the amarr getting another t1 frig too? Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard ahhh someone help me out here, are the amarr getting another t1 frig too?
It seems so, yes. I'm sure you already know, Amarr have one frigate less than the other races, for reasons never really explained; they're missing the astrometrics frigate. The Magnate model has been in the game forever, in the guise of the ultra-rare Silver Magnate and Golden Magnate crafts. It seems like the plain old T1 Magnate is now being launched as Amarr's missing astrometrics frig. ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
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