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Pennwisedom	Posted - 2008.05.20 18:58:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. And yet no one wanted to listen to me before. The only other problem is the other "wrong" is making more than one ship look like the Imicus when 1 is already too much.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.20 18:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Alski Ugly New Helios NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...... ...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo Bish Ounen huggles his ugly little cov-ops I love the imicus.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 18:59:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. Wait, you guys are using the Magnate as the missing Amarr frigate? I totally called that \o/ I actually really like the Imicus model. Totally underused. I'm happy with the new Helios ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Liu	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:00:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. is that true also for Tier 2 Command ships? will the nighthawk be changed to drake's hull? Originally by: Apertotes tbh, boot.ini was overpowered and needed a nerf
Asestorian Domination. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:03:00 - [35] Originally by: Liu Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. is that true also for Tier 2 Command ships? will the nighthawk be changed to drake's hull? No, because there are no Tier 2 Command Ships. Only a Fleet and Field type. Secondly, the Command Ships were released before the Tier 2 Battlecruisers were created, by quite a long way as well I believe, so they were never wrong. --- Quote: EVE is unfair by design.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:06:00 - [36] I've said forever that it didn't make sense having the Cheetah modeled on the Vigil hull when the Probe is the T1 astrometrics frigate. GG CCP, thanks for finally showing the Probe its much-deserved T2 love!!! Now, uh... how 'bout a T2 variant of the Hurricane? I think the Claymore should stay as is, but it wouldn't kill you to change the Sleipnir model imo. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Isilwen Nightfall Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:23:00 - [37] did they fix the wrong color scheme of harpy/hawk?
chillz Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:30:00 - [38] The new Cheetah! For god sake no! At least it'll make the Fleet Tempest look nice in comparison I suppose. That must be one of the most hamfisted T2 upgrades ever. Did you get a 4 year old to do the concept art? ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:35:00 - [39] Edited by: Stakhanov on 20/05/2008 19:35:53 Originally by: Jantje Smit Helios model changed from Maulus -> Imicus Ugly New Helios Do not want Seriously , I trained for the helios just so that I wouldn't have to look at an ugly duckling of a probing frigate. And I was pretty attached to my old imicus. But that ship model is just not worthy of a T2 hull , and cloak does nothing to conceal its lopsided aspect. Come on now , amarr got enough boosts lately. No need to further nerf other races... at least caldari are used to ugly ships. Us gallente pilots are sensitive to aesthetics , please do not ruin our sexy helios
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Corsa d'Azur Say it again shall we. The Covert-Ops frigate is not an E-war ship, its a probing ship. It should be based off the astro frigate. Now it is. Cheers That makes sense, except for the part about Gallente and Minmatar having had Astrometrics frigates all along. I can see if it was just a matter of correcting Amarr covert-ops, but the Gallente and Minmatar should have used the correct hull from the begining. Messing up on the hull selection for all but one ship. Oh well, I suppose that I should just be happy that they are fixing it so that the T1 hulls are in-line with the T2 bonuses. I wonder how much they are mucking around with the build requirements. Building the new covert-ops from the old hull would be silly. I wounder if they are changing any of the other requirements to adjust for the change in base price, not that the base price has a very significant impact on the effective price for a covert-ops.

Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Havohej I've said forever that it didn't make sense having the Cheetah modeled on the Vigil hull when the Probe is the T1 astrometrics frigate. GG CCP, thanks for finally showing the Probe its much-deserved T2 love!!! People get excited about the oddest things. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Batwigg	Posted - 2008.05.20 19:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Stakhanov Seriously , I trained for the helios just so that I wouldn't have to look at an ugly duckling of a probing frigate. Lucky for you, thanks to the miracle of modern science known as a "Cloaking Device", you won't have to!
london Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Added features: -Align button! (no more double clicks mouse cheers) It's about time. london:
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:26:00 - [44] Originally by: london Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Added features: -Align button! (no more double clicks mouse cheers) It's about time. If it's in a right-click menu Xaen's going to have a canary. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
Nuyan Zahedi Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:33:00 - [45] For as far as I know the new Amarrian frigate isn't in the game yet, but it probably has that Magnate hull yes. Align button is awesome. I've taken a look at Factional Warfare and the complexes in low-sec myself, which you can read about here. -- My blog
Xeserox Caldari Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:40:00 - [46] Okay... NOT HAPPY!!!!!!! Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Anathema model changed from Crucifier -> MAGNATE!!!!! Sexy New Anathema So you all are sitting there... Why isn't XX happy? The Magnate is beautiful, and uber Rare.... We all can fly one. Which is why i don't want that. I own a Silver Magnate. I love my silver magnate. I've owned one since January 2004. I don't want everyone to be flying around in it.. calling an an anthema. The imicus and the probe needed some tech 2 loving... but OMG they are ugly. Please please please.. oh goodness no.... don't ruin my magnate and let everyone else fly them. (though something tells me they are on sisi and hence why the pics are out.) Xeserox - General Manager Eden Underground Radio -Eve Tribune -Eve Cast
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Xeserox Okay... NOT HAPPY!!!!!!! Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Anathema model changed from Crucifier -> MAGNATE!!!!! Sexy New Anathema So you all are sitting there... Why isn't XX happy? The Magnate is beautiful, and uber Rare.... We all can fly one. Which is why i don't want that. I own a Silver Magnate. I love my silver magnate. I've owned one since January 2004. I don't want everyone to be flying around in it.. calling an an anthema. The imicus and the probe needed some tech 2 loving... but OMG they are ugly. Please please please.. oh goodness no.... don't ruin my magnate and let everyone else fly them. (though something tells me they are on sisi and hence why the pics are out.) The Silver (and Golden) Magnates are still super rare. They just share a model with something now. Its like the Imperial Issue Apocalypse- extremely rare ship (in fact, is it extinct now?), even though it shares it's model with an extremely common T1 ship and several other faction ships. And Amarr needed that missing frigate more than EVE needed a unique model faction ship. And the Magnate has always been the smart choice- essentially, the game's only faction-issue ship who's T1 version hadn't been released yet. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:48:00 - [48] Originally by: Xeserox Okay... NOT HAPPY!!!!!!! Please please please.. oh goodness no.... don't ruin my magnate and let everyone else fly them. HA HA!
Ral Ulgur Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.20 20:59:00 - [49] I wub CCP for having heard my prayers!
sg3s Caldari O.W.N. Corp United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:05:00 - [50] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: london Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Added features: -Align button! (no more double clicks mouse cheers) It's about time. If it's in a right-click menu Xaen's going to have a canary. :) Oh boy, I see it comming.

Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:26:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. Yes, they were wrong, but they were wrong in a good way. The current TQ models look FAR better than the replacements. Please just leave them as they are. Call it a RP decision to stick with the existing R&D work rather than design a new conversion from a different hull.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:27:00 - [52] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 20/05/2008 21:28:43 Originally by: Alz Shado Edited by: Alz Shado on 20/05/2008 18:36:30 Originally by: Jantje Smit Cheetah model changed from Vigil -> Probe New Cheetah I approve of this message. What the **** ???????? No !! The Probe is the ugliest ship in the game :( 2isk
Kylania Gallente Phoenix Industries Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:32:00 - [53] Anyone wanna buy a Helios? Only reason I bought it was it was sexy. But an Imicus? Icky! -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| How to Build from a BPO
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:32:00 - [54] Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. I don't understand : do you mean that tech II fergates is now one ship model only and cannot be something else (like tiers 2 covops instead or tiers 2 EAS) 2isk
Pliskkenn Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:34:00 - [55] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 20/05/2008 21:28:43 Originally by: Alz Shado Edited by: Alz Shado on 20/05/2008 18:36:30 Originally by: Jantje Smit Cheetah model changed from Vigil -> Probe New Cheetah I approve of this message. What the **** ???????? No !! The Probe is the ugliest ship in the game :( I agree wholeheartedly. The burst would look so much better and its not like the burst is a pretty thing. What is going to happen to the existing models? ---
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:38:00 - [56] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. Yes, they were wrong, but they were wrong in a good way. The current TQ models look FAR better than the replacements. Please just leave them as they are. Call it a RP decision to stick with the existing R&D work rather than design a new conversion from a different hull. /agreeing with Merin As far as the Cheetah goes, The Probe hull is cool enough as a T1 Frig. The model is "cute" and visually it matches its small scale hauler function, if not the astrometrics part. The Vigil hull looks like a CovOps should, hitech, sneaky, and a little menacing. IM humble O. Please consider leaving the Helios and Cheetah hulls the same as they've been. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:45:00 - [57] Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: CCP Atropos The Maulus based Helios model and Vigil based Cheetah models are both essentially wrong. They aren't Tech II version of the astrometrics frigates. With the introduction of the Magnate as the long missing Amarr frigate, we can right all these wrongs and fix them to be based from their correct predecessors. Yes, they were wrong, but they were wrong in a good way. The current TQ models look FAR better than the replacements. Please just leave them as they are. Call it a RP decision to stick with the existing R&D work rather than design a new conversion from a different hull. /agreeing with Merin As far as the Cheetah goes, The Probe hull is cool enough as a T1 Frig. The model is "cute" and visually it matches its small scale hauler function, if not the astrometrics part. The Vigil hull looks like a CovOps should, hitech, sneaky, and a little menacing. IM humble O. Please consider leaving the Helios and Cheetah hulls the same as they've been. What do you mean the probe is cute, it looks like a lego brick 2isk
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn What do you mean the probe is cute, it looks like a lego brick Exactly. But with sails! It's da ittle wittle cutest lego spaceboat. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Staggerr	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:55:00 - [59] Protip: Sell: Helios/Cheetah Buy: Anathema.
Rick Thwaites Caritas.	Posted - 2008.05.21 02:47:00 - [60] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: london Originally by: Jantje Smit Edited by: Jantje Smit on 20/05/2008 18:33:42 Added features: -Align button! (no more double clicks mouse cheers) It's about time. If it's in a right-click menu Xaen's going to have a canary. :) Quoting my favourite EVE celeb. talking about my corpmate. = D! He's not as *****ish in corp chat. --



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