Don't seperate the Destroyers skill and the Battlecruisers skill. Doing so will only make things more complicated, especially for characters who use ships from more than one faction (like me).

I have a Coercer and I have a Thrasher, and I was planning on getting the other two destroyers because I have been hearing very good things about them, but now I have to lose my Destroyer Skillpoints and Re-train Amarr Destroyer AND Minmatar Destroyer, and if I ever want those otehr Destroyers then I will have to train Caldari Destroyer and Gallente Destroyer.

As for Battlecruisers, getting a Battleship is already difficult enough as it is, and now you want to make the Battlecruiser skills a requirement? I looked at the various BCs, and they actually seem a bit more specialized than Battleships.

And what about people who are trying to get Pirate Battleships? Now they need to lose their skillpoints in their two Battleship skills just to train two seperate Battlecruiser skills.

What you are doing with the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills is the opposite of streamlining things.

EDIT: [Reads the post about skillpoint reimbursment]
DOH!

Alright, so I will get my skillpoints back, but I am still upset on behalf of the people who can't fly those ships already.
Sorry for not reading all of it, I should be ashamed of myself.

---

So... what is the new In-Game Mark of Shame?

You guys still assume that the new Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills will have the same rank... Fascinating!

So do we have any idea as to when this change will go into effect? I'm a relatively new player and 1) I certainly don't want to miss out on the BC/Destroyer V skills for all races and 2) I'm not familiar with how frequently CCP releases updates for EVE in general.

Does anyone have any ideas? Speculation?

Have these changes been pushed back? Any thoughts or any info would be most appreciated. I just don't want to get left out in the cold when the changes go into effect and cost me many more months of training that I otherwise wouldn't have to spend.

Thanks pilots!

So do we have any idea as to when this change will go into effect? I'm a relatively new player and 1) I certainly don't want to miss out on the BC/Destroyer V skills for all races and 2) I'm not familiar with how frequently CCP releases updates for EVE in general.

Does anyone have any ideas? Speculation?

Have these changes been pushed back? Any thoughts or any info would be most appreciated. I just don't want to get left out in the cold when the changes go into effect and cost me many more months of training that I otherwise wouldn't have to spend.

Thanks pilots!

one question.
example: I have in the hangar 1 skill book for destroyer, battlecruiser and capital ship.
after the patch, which skills books I get in the hangar?

example:
destroyer - all skills book racial
battlecruiser- all skills book racial
capital ship.-all skills book racial



thx

Q: Training turret specialization requires you to go for small and medium skills first, are you considering changing this to make it consistent with this plan?[/b]

A: We havenGÇÖt considered this yet, but this definitely is something that needs to be extensively discussed indeed.

they announced over a year ago that they gonna lower the preq. for capitals to BS4 i realy would love too know if and when that will happen?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

so according this blog more is to change on the capital rebalance let me get this straight it was said with the destroyer/battlecruisers if you can fly it today you can fly it after.

in the case of lets say a super sitting toon this means that as soon as the cap rebalance is done that sitter toon gets
capital ships 4
jump drive operation 2 t/m 5
jump drive callibration 4
jump fuel conservation 4

or else i wont be able to board the ship anymore on my sitter toon

If you have already trained the carrier skill for your chosen race you do not need to train any of those skills in order to fly the ship. Those skills are simply required to inject the skill for people who have not yet injected it.

The only possible exception to the "If you could fly it before you can fly it after" rule is the Tier 1 Navy BS which will require training from level 1 to level 2. For everything else (including supercarriers) the rule holds true. If you can fly a supercarrier before the changes you can fly it after.

thnx for the reply... i am sorry but something isnt realy clear if i have a sitter toon (in training right now) that is able to sit in a nyx do i get the skills that i lack or am i able to sit in it without the skills needed afterwards?

also i realy would like an estimated time where we can expect the capital requirement changes, i understand it isnt realistic to say it when it will be exactly but give us something (as close as possible) for a timeframe

thnx for the reply... i am sorry but something isnt realy clear if i have a sitter toon (in training right now) that is able to sit in a nyx do i get the skills that i lack or am i able to sit in it without the skills needed afterwards?

also i realy would like an estimated time where we can expect the capital requirement changes, i understand it isnt realistic to say it when it will be exactly but give us something (as close as possible) for a timeframe

erm help?

so if i am a pure Caldari pilot and have BC lvl5 will i get a refund on my other 3 race BC skills? or will you make me train it all over again if i choose to swap race sometime in the future?

erm help?

so if i am a pure Caldari pilot and have BC lvl5 will i get a refund on my other 3 race BC skills? or will you make me train it all over again if i choose to swap race sometime in the future?

I still can't get an answer:

If I have, for example, Command Ships trained before the changes, but not, say, Amarr Cruisers V trained, will I be able to fly the Amarr Command Ships after the changes if I meet the new prerequisites *except* the new ones for Command Ships. Or, MUST I have Amarr Cruisers trained to V BEFORE the changes in order to fly their Command Ships after the changes.

Essentially, the talk has been "if you can fly the **SHIP** before, you can fly it after". I want to know if this really means "if you have the **SKILL** before, you will have it after (and can use the skill to fulfill other requirements just as if you had trained it after the changes even though you don't have all of its new prerequisites)".

Please only answer if you can and do read the entire post, understand what I have written, and know what the "h" "e" double-hockey sticks you are talking about (and preferably are a dev).

The point is not academic. It has serious ramifications to capital and super capital ships as well.

I understand what is going to happen with the skills when they split, but I'm wondering what will happen to the battlecruiser and destroyer skill books I have in my hangar and compiled in skill packs for new players. Will they also be split into their racial variants?