So to me the question seems to be, how do we "nerf proof" for the change?

If they restrict it to Command Ship it makes Command Ship out of line with the other specialist ships of EVE. If CS was just his example, this is much larger than "I can fly a Claymore because I can fly an Abso and a Nighthawk and trained cruiser in Gall and matar to 4".

Train BC V and Dessy V before the change.

How do you mean? The way I read it, they're doing the exact opposite: they're removing those restrictions GÇö Command Ships will be to BCs what, say, Logistics is to Cruisers: a simple GÇ£role skillGÇ¥ that has its own, quite separate, set of prereqs that have nothing to do with the hull you're flying, and the ships themselves simply have both the GÇ£hull skillGÇ¥ and the GÇ£role skillGÇ¥ as their prereqs.

Caldari Frigate V + Interceptor = you can fly the Crow and Raptor.
Caldari Cruiser V + Logistic = you can fly the Basilisk.
Caldari Battlecruiser V + Command Ship = you can fly the Nighthawk and Vulture.

They're stripping out all the other -åirrelevantGÇ¥ prereqs (e.g. Cruiser V for the actual CS ships, and BC V for the CS GÇ£role skillGÇ¥) and making it easier to precisely pick what you want to fly. Command ships are kind of special in this regard due to the silly mess of prereqs they have, and from what I understand, it's exactly that that they want to remove and make all ship classes work the same. Similarly, it sounds like they're removing the Cruiser prereq for the BC hulls (i.e. you no longer have to have Caldari Cruiser III to fly the Drake, you just need Caldari BC II; likewise, the Cormorant only requires Caldari Dessi I, rather than Caldari Frigate III).

Though my question is, how will they handle paradoxes?

For example:
I do not have any Gallente ship skills. But, following their plan, I would then have the skills for the dessie and BC of Gallente without the prerequisites. Will this cause the server to explode?

They should have just had racial BC and Dessie in the first place.

All they need to do to fix it is let you have the SPs you've spent on BC or Destroyers and reallocate them to the specific racial ship(s) of your choice...

How is this even debatable?

You don't get free skill points just because you trained BC to 5.

Entitlement kiddies, please keep the whines to yourselves. It's kinda pathetic.

You're a fool.

So you think it's ok that a player is simply given 30 days training time in only needing BS IV to fly a carrier, but that I (as someone who has 2 cruisers skilled to V and BC V) should have to (remap my skills and) train for an extra 35 days to be able to fly two racial BCs at V, as I already now can?

It's not about being entitled, but if you insist on using terms you hear on the internet, then ok fine - if I have trained a skill to a certain level then yes, I do feel entitled to possess that skill at such a level. It's pretty much common sense.

If they are going to push this change through then they should give every carrier pilot a reimbursement of BS V skillpoints (and then they could choose to train it to V again or use the points elsewhere). And anyone who can fly a ship at a certain level, should still be able to fly that ship at the same level after the expansion.

Giving players 3 months of free training because they had BC at 5, over those who didn't is just stupid.

As people have only spent x amount of time training them they should only get the same amount back.

Giving players 3 months of free training because they had BC at 5, over those who didn't is just stupid.

Though my question is, how will they handle paradoxes?

For example:
I do not have any Gallente ship skills. But, following their plan, I would then have the skills for the dessie and BC of Gallente without the prerequisites. Will this cause the server to explode?

They should have just had racial BC and Dessie in the first place.

All they need to do to fix it is let you have the SPs you've spent on BC or Destroyers and reallocate them to the specific racial ship(s) of your choice...

How is this even debatable?

You don't get free skill points just because you trained BC to 5.

Entitlement kiddies, please keep the whines to yourselves. It's kinda pathetic.

If they give more skill points to player A than player B - there is much greater problem and much more whining coming.

Just reimburse the SP.

Giving players 3 months of free training because they had BC at 5, over those who didn't is just stupid. To the ridiculous whiners who want to retain their ability to fly ALL racial BC and CS: well boohoo! You just use the reimbursed skillpoints to make one racial BC at 5 (or two races at 4). Then you train the rest up LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

Don't whine about what you can no longer do (until you learn skills again, which you will if it is really that important to you), but be grateful you were lucky enough to enjoy the diversity for so long for so little skillpoints invested.

and........if i have level IV in battlecruisers and destroyers?

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Though my question is, how will they handle paradoxes?

For example:
I do not have any Gallente ship skills. But, following their plan, I would then have the skills for the dessie and BC of Gallente without the prerequisites. Will this cause the server to explode?

No, ships also have "secondary" and "tertiary" skill requirements which must be fulfilled before they can be piloted.

Or in other words, the Brutix currently requires Gallente Cruiser level 3 right now in order to be piloted. This is not going to change, even if it will also require Gallente Battlecruiser I.

Command ships will become the new T3 cruisers and every noob will fly them.

No. The entire IDEA that they should remove the generic battlecruiser and destroyer skills in favor of more race specific training is abhorrent and short sited.

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