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Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:18:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just so everyone knows:
* I collated a list of likely voters.
* I got confirmation from a senior GM that sending political email is perfectly fine, as long as I didn't repeatedly email the same people. Same as last year.
* I sat at the keyboard and sent out the mails using EVE-Gate. It was very boring and tedious -- sort of like mining, except for votes.
* The Mittani was so impressed he tried to pump me for information. I said I'd tell him my secrets after the election is over.
I replied you with the advice to eat a big pile of cat poo, danm spammer. No votes for you.
edit: Bon Apetit |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
60
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:21:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote: Think he said in a previous post that he chose people who he though might be interested, that does not sound indiscriminate to me. Plus he only sent it once which would also imply it's not being sent indiscriminately.
Indiscriminate enough to catch several people who have publicly and loudly stated they were not voting for him, based on posts I have seen and names in the mail sent to me.
Well you don't expect him to get the target audience always right do you?
Plus as it's only 1 EVEmail, it take but a second to delete it and you don't even need to open it. |
Vigo Carpath
Capsuleer Legions Of New Eden GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
3
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:28:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:* I collated a list of likely voters. You missed and the GM is wrong. "7. You may not violate any local, state, national or international laws or regulations. " Spam is illegal in pretty much any country on the planet. Do not send any mail to me or any alt of mine ever again.
No shortage of drama queens around this thread. Boo frickity hoooo. Suck it up princess. He touched your inbox not your no no special place.
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Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
844
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:31:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:* I collated a list of likely voters. You missed and the GM is wrong. "7. You may not violate any local, state, national or international laws or regulations. " Spam is illegal in pretty much any country on the planet. Do not send any mail to me or any alt of mine ever again.
This applies to email.
You received an evemail - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Fraszoid
Shaytan Combine
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:33:00 -
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I appreciate the mail, but you got me too late, I already voted for Skye. |
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
46
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:48:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:* I got confirmation from a senior GM that sending political email is perfectly fine, as long as I didn't repeatedly email the same people. Same as last year.
Funny, I heard about the good news three times
Oh sorry, wrong kind of spam. "Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:06:00 -
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Its one EVE mail. Hardly spam. Amazed you guys can even handle reading the forums... |
gfldex
342
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:30:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:This applies to email.
You received an evemail
You may want to read the laws in question. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
gfldex
342
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:31:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Its one EVE mail. Hardly spam. Amazed you guys can even handle reading the forums...
Very true. Next year it will be 50, not counting supporters. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:35:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Its one EVE mail. Hardly spam. Amazed you guys can even handle reading the forums... I know I certainly can barely contain myself around these forums.
Seeing as everyone and their dog posts about crap on here they like or dislike. Well I happen to DISLIKE political messages of any kind. Whoever believes whatever it is.... to me its SPAM nothing else. Yes it got deleted as soon as it was opened and I realized what it was. Then I posted cuz I know that there are others that share this sentiment. I hated it in Jita... I hated it in the mission hubs... I hated it on the forums. Especially because its political in nature.
Politics to me is like watching grass grow... or watching the special Olympics... no matter who wins theyre still retards!! Yes its a bad joke but thats the way I feel about ALL politics. One of the main reasons I avoid Null. Cant stand the bullshit. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
74
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:36:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Its one EVE mail. Hardly spam. Amazed you guys can even handle reading the forums... Very true. Next year it will be 50, not counting supporters. Yup. Cuz once one guy does it. Copy and paste that fit to EFT ladies and gents its a "gooder" and soon youll see every fleet flying that "fit" all over New Eden. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:43:00 -
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You would think this email came with an attached bitchslap with the way these people are carrying on. |
Dusenman
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:57:00 -
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Evemail was fine with me, +1 for effort.
Dusenman GM Homonoia: In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
594
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:13:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:This applies to email.
You received an evemail You may want to read the laws in question.
Watch out!
Internet lawyer-genius at work here. If you're reading my sig you cannot claim ignorance, only stupidity or apathy, if you don't go VOTE now for CSM7. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1911
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:14:00 -
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I've made a blog posting about what I did and why. I hope you will find it interesting reading. The Polls are open! Click here to vote for Trebor *-áMy Election Thread * Voter's Guide |
Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:24:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I've made a blog posting about what I did and why. I hope you will find it interesting reading.
Hope you enjoy gettin spammed your Inbox on a daily basis for the future also ? |
Caldari Citizen 786478786
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:42:00 -
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Whiny bitches are out in full-force today. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
493
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:48:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:You would think this email came with an attached bitchslap with the way these people are carrying on.
Not quite. This was no different from finding your real life mailbox stuffed with adverts for useless junk you couldn't care less about.
I wasn't a fan of Trebor before and after this, definitely not a fan of his. Reeks of desperation. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:50:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:This applies to email.
You received an evemail You may want to read the laws in question.
I worked for 6months in marketing, I know the law. Trebor is in the US, to which the CAN-SPAM act of 2003 defines it's scope as "electronic mail" later in the act it simply calls it "email"
It's worth noting that it defines a spam message as:
Quote:any electronic mail message the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service (including content on an Internet website operated for a commercial purpose).
I didn't see where Trebor was offering you a commercial service or otherwise promoting a commercial product.
It also deliberately states that the content is exempt from falling under the CAN-SPAM act if it contains political messages.
You seem to think spam laws stop you from receiving any message you didn't want to receive, this is not the case. Spam laws (regardless of country) do no such thing; they all define what a "commercial electronic mail" is (i.e. define the scope of the object the legislation covers) and then gives you a specific list of what you can and cannot so in them.
Since I cannot find any bill that refers to messages sent by evemail, none are applicable.
n.b. - you may want to read the laws in question. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
197
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:58:00 -
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Nothing new.
Ankhesentapemkah made HEAVY use of mass evemail'ing during that particular election. And she won with the second highest vote count, so I guess it worked.
Though, what happened AFTER she was elected was another situation entirely. |
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Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:01:00 -
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When the New CSM is introduced onto to the stage during Fanfest. Will the audience be cheering or jeering? I think that is going to be one of the highlights of the event.
Pilots of New Eden unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains! |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
753
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:05:00 -
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[quote=Trebor Daehdoow]I've made a blog posting about what I did and why. I hope you will find it interesting reading.[/quote You didn't get a candidate thread trolling boost this year, lowering your chances for reelection
So... To fix this you start sending out political spam and in short order you got several threads on GD a 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
172
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:00:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I've made a blog posting about what I did and why. I hope you will find it interesting reading.
Thank you but I'm sure I can find the relevant section of the forums (hint its not here) should I wish to read your self-serving crap.
Oh and if you think anyone believes that you did this manually then you're quite delusional.
Don't vote for spammers, don't vote Trebor. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:08:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:You would think this email came with an attached bitchslap with the way these people are carrying on. Not quite. This was no different from finding your real life mailbox stuffed with adverts for useless junk you couldn't care less about. I wasn't a fan of Trebor before and after this, definitely not a fan of his. Reeks of desperation.
You are correct, this is no different than finding junk mail in a RL mailbox, or watching your junk mail folder fill up in your outlook. Because of this I treated this evemail no differently. I glanced at it and moved on. It didn't make me cry like a little girl. I didn't feel the urge to throw a tantrum due to some inanimate objects mere presence. I didn't even really bother reading it. I just continued with my life.
This has left me at a crossroad however. Do I vote for Darius for scamming stupid people into giving him free publicity, or do I vote for Trebor for inadvertently pissing off the thin skinned sensitives? |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
89
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:17:00 -
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I can't vote. I'm only 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
336
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:44:00 -
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TBH if I hadnt already voted adn didnt know who to vote for, getting that mail from Trebor would have made me absolutely not vote for him..
Everyone mail him back 9 times. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:50:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote: Everyone mail him back 9 times.
Translation: I hate spam mail so much that I will commit to it 8 times more than the original offender.
That is some undeniable logic right there! Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
24
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:03:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:How DARE they take the initiative to try and make people aware of who they are and what they want to do for EVE and in turn you. And how DARE CCP make it so easy to click delete on such profound mail in less than 2 seconds.
Yes, because an Eve mail that says "VOTE FOR ME" Tells you so much about a person....
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Aida Nu
Nu Industries
27
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:30:00 -
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Please do not pollute my EVE mailbox with your **** spam in the future thanks.
Quote: I collated a list of likely voters.
HAHAHAHA. Get lost.
This CSM thing is turning into a ******* circus. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3388
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:34:00 -
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Note to self, auto block all the candidates I dont intend to vote for next election.
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