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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ryco
I bet you didnt put in your base skills and put in your adjusted skills.
I entered my attributes and my learning skills. What else is required? Besides, the sheet is calculating a smaller time, not a larger time. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |
Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ryco
I bet you didnt put in your base skills and put in your adjusted skills.
I entered my attributes and my learning skills. What else is required? Besides, the sheet is calculating a smaller time, not a larger time. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |
Grayson Burrows
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:54:00 -
[183]
+1 implants are now registering on the Character Info page - I checked the XML link as well and it's consistent. If you reimport your character data, your +1 implants should now be showing up.
I assume +2 implants should be working as well, but could someone confirm this?
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Grayson Burrows
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:54:00 -
[184]
+1 implants are now registering on the Character Info page - I checked the XML link as well and it's consistent. If you reimport your character data, your +1 implants should now be showing up.
I assume +2 implants should be working as well, but could someone confirm this?
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:58 Just a quick question:
I have an average of 24.6 SP's per minute, is that good or bad?
I get 33.6 SP's in Leadership & Trade (is Trade in the game yet?) 27 in Spaceship Command/ Missle Launcher OP's & Gunnery 25.3 in Navigation 24.8 in Electronics/Engineering/Mechanics & Science 21.5 in Industry & Social 18.7 in Drones & a pityful 18.2 in Corp Managment
Thats with all Learning skills at level 5 & 4x(+3)implants (missing memory +3 implant)
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:58 Just a quick question:
I have an average of 24.6 SP's per minute, is that good or bad?
I get 33.6 SP's in Leadership & Trade (is Trade in the game yet?) 27 in Spaceship Command/ Missle Launcher OP's & Gunnery 25.3 in Navigation 24.8 in Electronics/Engineering/Mechanics & Science 21.5 in Industry & Social 18.7 in Drones & a pityful 18.2 in Corp Managment
Thats with all Learning skills at level 5 & 4x(+3)implants (missing memory +3 implant)
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:08 Double Post (Sorry)
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:08 Double Post (Sorry)
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Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Grayson Burrows That's the nasty part. The second graph tab ends up taking the tab name of the tab immediately after Skillset Graph (Skill Descriptions). The contents of every tab gets bumped to the right by one. Basicly, every tab after the Skillset Graph tab ends up with the wrong contents. The last tab ends up with a default name of "Sheet17" since the bump created a requirement for another tab to hold data.
Ahhhhh I see! Well that makes some sense I suppose - though Open Office needs to get their act together if they wish to compete.
I'll see what I can do about moving the graph page to the end.
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Grayson Burrows That's the nasty part. The second graph tab ends up taking the tab name of the tab immediately after Skillset Graph (Skill Descriptions). The contents of every tab gets bumped to the right by one. Basicly, every tab after the Skillset Graph tab ends up with the wrong contents. The last tab ends up with a default name of "Sheet17" since the bump created a requirement for another tab to hold data.
Ahhhhh I see! Well that makes some sense I suppose - though Open Office needs to get their act together if they wish to compete.
I'll see what I can do about moving the graph page to the end.
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
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Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem I like it.
My time does not seem to match what even is saying though. I have added all my attributes. All the learning skill values. (Figure out to enter skill points and not skill level) And the current value of the skill. But Eve is saying i have an extra day or so from what the spread sheet is saying.
Example, I have learning 5 and the rest learning skills at 4. To train one of them to 5 eve: 7D 3M 29s sheet: 5D 30M
Any idea whats up?
mem 15 int 11 per 15 cha 11 wil 12
Can you send me a screenshot of what eve is saynig and a populated copy of the sheet?
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: IZON Hey LL have you tried running Skill Checker in the spreadsheet that comes with the open source programme OpenOffice v1.1? I'm not using excel, would you mind taking a look at it ? I just wanted to know if skill checker performs worse under OpenOffice.
Not sure what you're asking me for here? Can you clarify?
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Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem I like it.
My time does not seem to match what even is saying though. I have added all my attributes. All the learning skill values. (Figure out to enter skill points and not skill level) And the current value of the skill. But Eve is saying i have an extra day or so from what the spread sheet is saying.
Example, I have learning 5 and the rest learning skills at 4. To train one of them to 5 eve: 7D 3M 29s sheet: 5D 30M
Any idea whats up?
mem 15 int 11 per 15 cha 11 wil 12
Can you send me a screenshot of what eve is saynig and a populated copy of the sheet?
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: IZON Hey LL have you tried running Skill Checker in the spreadsheet that comes with the open source programme OpenOffice v1.1? I'm not using excel, would you mind taking a look at it ? I just wanted to know if skill checker performs worse under OpenOffice.
Not sure what you're asking me for here? Can you clarify?
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Loud Bob Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:58 Just a quick question:
I have an average of 24.6 SP's per minute, is that good or bad?
I get 33.6 SP's in Leadership & Trade (is Trade in the game yet?) 27 in Spaceship Command/ Missle Launcher OP's & Gunnery 25.3 in Navigation 24.8 in Electronics/Engineering/Mechanics & Science 21.5 in Industry & Social 18.7 in Drones & a pityful 18.2 in Corp Managment
Thats with all Learning skills at level 5 & 4x(+3)implants (missing memory +3 implant)
That's better than I have :)
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Lachenlaud
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Loud Bob Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 14:18:58 Just a quick question:
I have an average of 24.6 SP's per minute, is that good or bad?
I get 33.6 SP's in Leadership & Trade (is Trade in the game yet?) 27 in Spaceship Command/ Missle Launcher OP's & Gunnery 25.3 in Navigation 24.8 in Electronics/Engineering/Mechanics & Science 21.5 in Industry & Social 18.7 in Drones & a pityful 18.2 in Corp Managment
Thats with all Learning skills at level 5 & 4x(+3)implants (missing memory +3 implant)
That's better than I have :)
[email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!! |
Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lachenlaud That's better than I have :)[/quote
Thanks,
Anyone else care to post some stats?
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lachenlaud That's better than I have :)[/quote
Thanks,
Anyone else care to post some stats?
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:02:56 Lach, Is this formula correct?
Points per minute = (primary attribute + secondary attribute/2) x (1 + 0.02 x Learning skill level)
If so,
I have willpower=27, Charisma=12
Therefore: Points per minute = (27 + 12/2) x (1 + .02x5) = (33) x (1.1) = 36.3
Yet according to the spreadsheet it is 33.6.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:02:56 Lach, Is this formula correct?
Points per minute = (primary attribute + secondary attribute/2) x (1 + 0.02 x Learning skill level)
If so,
I have willpower=27, Charisma=12
Therefore: Points per minute = (27 + 12/2) x (1 + .02x5) = (33) x (1.1) = 36.3
Yet according to the spreadsheet it is 33.6.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Aloris Crow
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem I like it.
My time does not seem to match what even is saying though. I have added all my attributes. All the learning skill values. (Figure out to enter skill points and not skill level) And the current value of the skill. But Eve is saying i have an extra day or so from what the spread sheet is saying.
Example, I have learning 5 and the rest learning skills at 4. To train one of them to 5 eve: 7D 3M 29s sheet: 5D 30M
Any idea whats up?
mem 15 int 11 per 15 cha 11 wil 12
I've done some quick practical experimentation and can tell you what the problem is.
In the base attribute values you have put your current attributes, not what you started with. If you put 10 memory and 6 intelligence on the sheet, and the learning skills at the level you have stated above, it tallys with the in-game time.
If you put in your current attributes the sheet will add in the bonuses you get from the learning skills again, artificially decreasing your learning times.
You have to make sure you are putting down your starting values, not your current values. Take your current values and decrease each one by the number of levels in it's learning skill, that'll give you your base value.
Failing that just use the auto-import macro, it works great, except for the problem I have where I have to run the macro twice to get it to import properly.
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Aloris Crow
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem I like it.
My time does not seem to match what even is saying though. I have added all my attributes. All the learning skill values. (Figure out to enter skill points and not skill level) And the current value of the skill. But Eve is saying i have an extra day or so from what the spread sheet is saying.
Example, I have learning 5 and the rest learning skills at 4. To train one of them to 5 eve: 7D 3M 29s sheet: 5D 30M
Any idea whats up?
mem 15 int 11 per 15 cha 11 wil 12
I've done some quick practical experimentation and can tell you what the problem is.
In the base attribute values you have put your current attributes, not what you started with. If you put 10 memory and 6 intelligence on the sheet, and the learning skills at the level you have stated above, it tallys with the in-game time.
If you put in your current attributes the sheet will add in the bonuses you get from the learning skills again, artificially decreasing your learning times.
You have to make sure you are putting down your starting values, not your current values. Take your current values and decrease each one by the number of levels in it's learning skill, that'll give you your base value.
Failing that just use the auto-import macro, it works great, except for the problem I have where I have to run the macro twice to get it to import properly.
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:18:00 -
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hehehehehe
According to the spreadsheet,
It should take me 8years, 230days, 12hours & 32minutes to complete all skills to level 5.
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:18:00 -
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hehehehehe
According to the spreadsheet,
It should take me 8years, 230days, 12hours & 32minutes to complete all skills to level 5.
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Grayson Burrows
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Aloris Crow
You have to make sure you are putting down your starting values, not your current values. Take your current values and decrease each one by the number of levels in it's learning skill, that'll give you your base value.
Be careful there - the Learning skill modifies your attribute tallies, so even if you subtract your learning skills from your attributes there's a high probability that the base attributes may be off by 1.
The safest way to get your "base" attributes is to click on the XML link on the website's Character Info page. If your browser doesn't view the XML directly, save it to a file and open it with a text editor. Look near the bottom for something that reads similar to this:
<extraInfo> <skillPoints>1,234,567</skillPoints> <characterName>Drinky Winky</characterName> <characterRace>Teletubby</characterRace> <characterBloodline>Alcoholic</characterBloodline> <characterGender>BeatsMe</characterGender> <characterCorporation>Annoying Childrens Programming, Inc.</characterCorporation> <intelligence>1</intelligence> <charisma>1</charisma> <perception>1</perception> <memory>1</memory> <willpower>1</willpower> <cashBalance>5,059,699,935,146</cashBalance> ...
The attributes listed here are your base attributes. THESE are the numbers that you need to plug in.
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Grayson Burrows
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Aloris Crow
You have to make sure you are putting down your starting values, not your current values. Take your current values and decrease each one by the number of levels in it's learning skill, that'll give you your base value.
Be careful there - the Learning skill modifies your attribute tallies, so even if you subtract your learning skills from your attributes there's a high probability that the base attributes may be off by 1.
The safest way to get your "base" attributes is to click on the XML link on the website's Character Info page. If your browser doesn't view the XML directly, save it to a file and open it with a text editor. Look near the bottom for something that reads similar to this:
<extraInfo> <skillPoints>1,234,567</skillPoints> <characterName>Drinky Winky</characterName> <characterRace>Teletubby</characterRace> <characterBloodline>Alcoholic</characterBloodline> <characterGender>BeatsMe</characterGender> <characterCorporation>Annoying Childrens Programming, Inc.</characterCorporation> <intelligence>1</intelligence> <charisma>1</charisma> <perception>1</perception> <memory>1</memory> <willpower>1</willpower> <cashBalance>5,059,699,935,146</cashBalance> ...
The attributes listed here are your base attributes. THESE are the numbers that you need to plug in.
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:31:38 All my base att's, learning skills & implant are correct (used '<ctrl>+g' to auto update & checked against XML data)
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:31:38 All my base att's, learning skills & implant are correct (used '<ctrl>+g' to auto update & checked against XML data)
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Loud Bob Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:02:56 Lach, Is this formula correct?
Points per minute = (primary attribute + secondary attribute/2) x (1 + 0.02 x Learning skill level)
If so,
I have willpower=27, Charisma=12
Therefore: Points per minute = (27 + 12/2) x (1 + .02x5) = (33) x (1.1) = 36.3
Yet according to the spreadsheet it is 33.6.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Does not matter, the training times as stated on the spreadsheet compared to actual training times match (good enough for me).
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Loud Bob
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Posted - 2004.07.26 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Loud Bob Edited by: Loud Bob on 26/07/2004 15:02:56 Lach, Is this formula correct?
Points per minute = (primary attribute + secondary attribute/2) x (1 + 0.02 x Learning skill level)
If so,
I have willpower=27, Charisma=12
Therefore: Points per minute = (27 + 12/2) x (1 + .02x5) = (33) x (1.1) = 36.3
Yet according to the spreadsheet it is 33.6.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Does not matter, the training times as stated on the spreadsheet compared to actual training times match (good enough for me).
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