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Bellum Eternus D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:25:00 - [61] Originally by: Project Untrust Edited by: Project Untrust on 27/05/2008 14:16:10 So while I was killing time browsing EVE-online.com during DT, reading a bit of EVE stories, forums and etc, like many of us would do... I came across the section 'Organizations' under 'Backstory', and noticed a very interesting fact: None of the NPC corps have a CEO or CFO or any other portraited staffs that is an Achura, Khanid, Jin-Mei, and Vheroklor. Amarr - 33 corps - Portraits of CEO and staffs consist of all races/bloodlines except the above mentioned 4 Caldari - 44 corps - same as above (=same as above) Gallente - 31 corps - Minmatar - 21 corps - Jovian - 7 corps - Ammatar - 3 corps - Khanid Kingdom - 4 corps - Intaki Syndicate - 4 corps - Guristas - 2 corps - Serpentis - 2 corps - Angel Cartel - 4 corps - Blood Raider - 1 corp - InterBus - 1 corp - ORE - 1 corp - Concord - 4 corps - SOE - 3 corps - Society of Concious Thoughts - 1 corp - Mordu's Legion - 1 corp - Sansha's Nation - 2 corps - Thukker Tribe - 2 corps -** That's ALL of the 171 npc corps in game, and you couldn't find one single Achura, Khanid, Jin-Mei or Vheroklor among them. Could this be coincidence? certainly not, not after 171 x # of the staffs chance with 0 hit. Could this be a random portrait generator's work and somehow someone in CCP forgot to 'program' these 4 racial portaits in it? I seriously doubt it, as if you pay attention on the CEOs/staff of certain corp, you'll realized their last name, race is closely chosen and associated with some of the stories from EVE Chronicles. This suggest CCP paid explicit attention in details about what they put out there, lore, stories are all well coordinated and described. Which make this even more troubling... so does that mean the 'missing races' are intentional? and if it is intentional what is the purpose? If you compare Ammatar with Khanid Kingdom, the CEOs/staffs in Ammatar are consisted of Ammar and Minmatar(fits the lore), yet Khanid Kingdom corps have CEOs/staffs in every other race but Khanid(doesn't make much sense does it?) Same goes the corp 'Vheroklor' has no Vheroklor in them, and finally zero Jin-Mei in Gallentte corps. Above are just examples that where these race should or suppose to be in Lore and in reality one will probably expect them in other less expected corps such as pirate corps. But no... they're non-existent in any npc corps at the moment. I tried to find some sort of connection and similarity of these 4 bloodlines compare to other bloodlines. and there is none in-game. Except their portraits draws reference from real world Asians(Mongoloid). Same as other bloodlines draws reference from Caucasoid and Negroid. This makes perfect sense as the sentient beings in the story of EVE are human descendants(I mean they didn't just creat some random alien looking portrait..). And in real world Earth, human race are consist of 3 major groups (Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid), And so far CCP has done a very good job representing each group in EVE. Until now. Discuss. Fail. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [gold]Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail mods@cc
Sick Sam Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:48:00 - [62] People like the Project Untrust aggravates the cause of racism, subconsciously seeing things that are not there and angering people on all sides. Then he compunds his vileness by making excuses for his behaviour, when it is clear to see his only intent was to foist his lies and wickedness upon the good. Even his name proves this as he is trying to sow 'untrust' among the people. Project Untrust your shroud of darkness will hold no sway among the enlightened, begone and take your Devil's Tongue with you.
Kyle Cataclysm	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:19:00 - [63] Originally by: Project Untrust Wow how much time did you spent on editing and quoting? You tried too hard bashing on an easy target. You tried too hard making a point that has already been made for 50+ times before you. You simply repeat the same crap and tried to present it in a different way, one you think will make you appear smarter than the others. You seem very good at nothing but recycling the same crap and feed on it, do you eat your own crap by any chance? If i am idiot for Not knowing the history of eve data updates, then you're a waste of oxygen, notice that only thing you manage to type is a '?' I hope by continuing bashing me, everyone can get little sense of self worth at least then my OP isn't completely useless :) ?
Sitthh	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:26:00 - [64] I aint racist I own a color tv....on a more serious note, op get out.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:37:00 - [65] Originally by: Agillious talk about looking for controversy, looking to be offended. and no, ignorance of the game is not an excuse. It means whomever got so offended that they needed post about how offensive this seems to them didn't do their homework. Do I personally care enough that I would be assuaged were CCP to rectify this alleged grievance? Nope. I mean really... you get offended over the lack of "Asian-bloodline" fictional characters in CEO positions, but make no remark of the institutionalized fictional slavery on the part of the Amarr Empire? Methinks the OP doth protest too much. Yeah, it's kind of like saying Iceland is racist because everyone there (I'm assuming re: permanent residents) is white. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Amastat Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:47:00 - [66] Edited by: Amastat on 28/05/2008 04:50:21 holds forehead with hand, closes eyes, and disappointingly shakes head Crap thread BLOODLINES! The closest thing to racism of EVE, that could possibly be brought up, would be how Gallente-Caldari, and Amarr-Minmatar relations are - but you can't call it racism because they are are enemies with each other. It's not dislike because of race, but because of bad histories/wars. If you look at how players treat each other, the actual pilots, there is a whole lot of Caldari-hating and Minmatar-hating. There is bashing that goes on towards Gallente and Amarr pilots too, but not nearly as much as I see Caldari and Minnies being bashed by a lot of players. Often times its the Minmatar and Caldari bashing each other - why that is, who knows. I personally jab at Minnies a bit here and there - I mean: who hasn't made fun of their ships? :P Caldari get picked on for having a few abstract and ugly ships too as well - and there is a lot of bashing Caldari for sucking at everything PvP wise, and their ECM is very nub. But the Minmatar on the other hand get bashed for having the most ugly ships - but having nub nanoships too. And don't get me started on Minmatar and soapbar jokes Speaking of which - there is a few jokes about Minmatar never taking baths and they are scared to death of soap; I still don't know where those jokes come from still. My guess is because they toiled in dirt and grease as slaves before they rebelled, and now they do the same thing on their welded-garbage ships. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:04:00 - [67] God I love the political correct group. With racism defeated in the real world they can now focus on the plight of the under privlaged minority portraits of a space combat MMO with a population barely over 300 thousand individuals. Yes, they will teach us to one day not to judge someone by the color of their textureized portraits, but the content of their turrets! -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Jmanis Catharg Stickler inc	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:40:00 - [68] Wow, I can't believe I read this thread. And I've got nothing but disrespect for the OP tbqh. People like them are the reason why words like ***** (what you would find lots of in the pavement) are censored.
Segge Bolled Dirty Sexy Pilots	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:18:00 - [69] The internet: consistently proving that some people have far too much free time to expend.
Joshua Foiritain Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.28 07:27:00 - [70] Originally by: Project Untrust Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Project Untrust This still doesn't change the fact that many new players will find it odd when they're simply curious about npc corps and did a bit of lore searching. No they wont. Also, why do you even care what races the NPC corp agents are? Agents? are we even talking about the same thing? i was refering to CEOS/staffs under 'Backstory' and 'Organization', there're people who play the game for it's RP aspect and enjoys the lore(story) The people listed there ARE agents, all the ceos can be talked to ingame if you have the standings and they'll hand you a (crappy) mission. Originally by: Project Untrust Because if you don't what is EVE to you then? just bunch of ships shooting each other in a big black vacume space? Technically space in eve isn't black, but pretty much yeah. Originally by: Project Untrust All the resource of EVE, both in game and on site are wasted on ppl like you. And the ability to start forum topics is wasted on you. -----
Angela Toren Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2008.05.28 08:04:00 - [71] This is new, i was expecting the old 'minmatar are designed purposely black and slaves!!' FYI asian blood lines were added years after the corp and organisation sections were made. This threads fail level is bordering on legendary. I brought some burger buns, burgers, sausages and ribs as this BBQ is well on the way. You should hope the mods save you and lock it before eve's faithful burn you to a crisp. _______ Oh Mindy...
omglollolol	Posted - 2008.05.28 08:13:00 - [72] Everyone's a little bit racist, it's true, but everyone's just about as racist as you, :p if we all would just admit, that we are racist a little bit, and everyone stops being so pc, may be we could live in... harmony ? ____________________________ You may not share my intellect, which might explain your disrespect, for all I say ;p _________________
Ordon Gundar Kingfisher Industries	Posted - 2008.05.28 08:21:00 - [73] I dont know which country you come from, OP, but in Britain everyone is **ed off with PC people digging up racism where it doesnt exist. Eve is a game, the races are fictitious, it doesnt matter, and who gives a toss anyway? Fly fast..Rats Die..Buy Low..Sell High**- Ordon Gundar, CEO of Gundars Independent Traders - Space (G.I.T.S)
copasetic sideways	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:33:00 - [74] i love the fact that this guy is still getting burned
Cutter Isaacson Hollow World Mining Corporation QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.05.28 11:03:00 - [75] I would like to take a moment to thank the op for bringing up a subject that has been close to my heart for years. Ive been surfing these forums for years and this is the first time ive seen someone have the guts to mention the obvious racism inherent in this game. Is there not enough of it in real life? Why do we feel the need to bring it into a game? ooh, a shiny thing, brb i wanna see what it is.................wow, i found a button, its round and shiny.............where was i? is this the Pokemon fanclub website? I was looking for a picture of pikachu.......hallo nurse.....no im not causing trouble.........well, no i dont think i do...............no, i dont want to go back into that little room...........no, the walls taste of lemons and the sheep on the ceiling hate me..................... We apologise for the brief and sadly high levels of insanity you were just witness too, Mr Isaacson is a bit unwell. He likes to come online and find people who are as unstable and full of fail as himself and it seems he found one. Originally by: Verone Sweet baby jesus and his holy mother of pwn.
Sturmwolke School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.05.28 12:44:00 - [76] Originally by: Project Untrust I hope by continuing bashing me, everyone can get little sense of self worth at least then my OP isn't completely useless :) Bashing? Noooo, I have to really thank _you_ for such an excellent topic /me still rotfl
ZERG RUSHKEKE Royal Enterprise Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2008.05.28 13:25:00 - [77] Congratulations sir you are insane :) ---------------- "O Maker, help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded."

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