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Jenny Keri
Judas Rosenberg LLC
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Posted - 2008.05.28 03:41:00 -
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The last several months have seen the steady decline of a great corporation (STK) and a promising Alliance (Blackout). A lack of vision and poor leadership have seen the best FCs depart, resulting in a general decay of combat capability. Truly, it was sad to see a 35-ship conventional fleet cow the entire Blackout alliance in their own space during their prime time.
Lakhthaar, Alliance leader, posted a directive that Paragon Soul was to be evacuated by this Friday, fleeing without offering any resistance. Apparently, BlackoutÆs allies (Goonswarm and Red Alliance) had abandoned them to their fate, and the Blackout leadership was not prepared to defend their interests alone. As Lakhthaar said, ôRight now the mission is to secure our future by securing our assets.ö
The future Lakhthaar speaks of was stolen. Last week, the large majority of Blackout assets that were not under lockdown were seized. Multiple T1/T2 BPOs, high end moon minerals and the bulk of the Alliance capital fleet were lost. Because of the evacuation order, many PoSs for holding sovereignty were appropriated by the organization. Further, ships and items given to STK for transport to empire were taken. Total losses are conservatively estimated at 150 Billion isk.
Where Blackout goes from here is unknown to our organization and depends a great deal on STK. They promised the Alliance that plans would be made public by Friday, and the theft has not yet been officially announced. Now, the future is uncertain. STK has an old and proud tradition, and this is not the first major theft in its history. Will the corporation survive and overcome, or will it fail? Only time will tell.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.05.28 03:53:00 -
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Thread delivers :V _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Tommy Foofoo
Molden Heath Gentlemen's Society
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Posted - 2008.05.28 03:57:00 -
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Oh, wait a minute: "fading into darkness", because they're called "Blackout", right?
I totally see what you did there.
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Gungankllr
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.28 03:58:00 -
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That sucks. Say what you want about them, but they're a great group of lads over there.
I think just about every single person I ever knew in STK and black-out busted their backsides to make their corp, alliance and in some cases friends prosper.
They've suffered huge losses in the past and bounced back, but 150+ bill isn't a drop in the bucket for a smaller alliance like that.
Anyhow, I'd fly beside any of those guys any day of the week. (Unless somebody sets them red...lol)
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LiquidSteele
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.05.28 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Keri ... BlackoutÆs allies (Goonswarm and Red Alliance) had abandoned them to their fate, and the Blackout leadership was not prepared to defend their interests alone.
I can't believe this, 
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 04:03:00 -
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welp |

the Poet
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Keri The last several months have seen the steady decline of a great corporation (STK) and a promising Alliance (Blackout).
Knew it was flame bait right after the first sentence... right...
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Chelsea Musgrat
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Posted - 2008.05.28 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: the Poet
Originally by: Jenny Keri The last several months have seen the steady decline of a great corporation (STK) and a promising Alliance (Blackout).
Knew it was flame bait right after the first sentence... right...
Everyone look at the cute bobbit. /gives attention to 
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 05:45:00 -
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Hey Ms. Alt, I call bull**** on the T1/T2 gear getting stolen. I have STK Scientific corp shares and nothing T2 has been unlocked in many many months. Who stole what exactly? Or is this more of "Cassiuss took all our moon mins from ASCN days" crap to use as another excuse for failing an 8th alliance.
I think someone is making excuses for not being able to defend a region they have had for almost a year, mostly realizing Goon protection just isn't there to save the day. STK has never been about risking it all and taking a chance, they know someone will take them in somewhere and would rather abandon a region to avoid a real fight.
Either way, STKs collapse has been imminent since they emoraged on their own forums about there own demise. It was just a matter of time before they started believing their own propaganda.
I can't believe you mind ****** yourselves out of a home, that's a new one. You should have listened to shme imo. Spider tanking dreads 4tw 
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Bazman
Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 08:00:00 -
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Stuck in Paragon Soul in stolen Blackout Carrier, send help :|
p.s that region jump distance is rediculous! -----
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Cippalippus Primus
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.28 08:19:00 -
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Man I didn't even know blackout was under attack lol -clp
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Colonel Buendia
Veni Vidi Vici.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 08:45:00 -
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Goonswarm offered to sell the whole of Paragon Soul with all the moons and GQ2 station to Black-Out for 30B ISK, I think it was a couple of weeks ago.
Black-Out just doesn't have the numbers to defend a region, and with the steady loss of leadership and EU timezone players, STK is pretty weak for a corporation that was on the verge of having 3/4 motherships some time ago.
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.28 10:38:00 -
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Welp...
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xBlood
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.05.28 10:47:00 -
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Run for the hills, Bob are coming!  Anoint Recruitment |

Sani Ka
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiuss Hey Ms. Alt, I call bull**** on the T1/T2 gear getting stolen. I have STK Scientific corp shares and nothing T2 has been unlocked in many many months. Who stole what exactly? Or is this more of "Cassiuss took all our moon mins from ASCN days" crap to use as another excuse for failing an 8th alliance.
I think someone is making excuses for not being able to defend a region they have had for almost a year, mostly realizing Goon protection just isn't there to save the day. STK has never been about risking it all and taking a chance, they know someone will take them in somewhere and would rather abandon a region to avoid a real fight.
Either way, STKs collapse has been imminent since they emoraged on their own forums about there own demise. It was just a matter of time before they started believing their own propaganda.
I can't believe you mind ****** yourselves out of a home, that's a new one. You should have listened to shme imo. Spider tanking dreads 4tw 
7/10 for effort but tbo bob being surprised at the tactic they excell at is a hard one to pitch better luck next time.
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Shirokko Papshimar
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs R-I-P
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Posted - 2008.05.28 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shirokko Papshimar on 28/05/2008 11:19:16 pasting in a ****error thread
ps
ponitfix
u have nice eyes
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2008.05.28 11:47:00 -
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I call shens on this latest theft. It's probably the BoD stashing assets away to "find" them another time.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:31:00 -
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Poasting in a back out from blackout post.
Cuz black is the new black.
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Mirus Crosius
Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:58:00 -
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That is total crap, Its just a ruse to make it look like woe is me, they got their buts whooped and wanna make up climatic exuses, like its a dynasty that has fallen.
*Cough* W/e!
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Hammerfall Ceo
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hammerfall Ceo on 28/05/2008 12:59:23 And who are you? Never ehard of the blackout...
Should we care?
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 16:29:00 -
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You've never heard of blackout because youÆre a northern monkey alt, open an eve map. No wonder you donÆt post with a main.
Anyways, I'm bored at work so I'll bite.
You see once STK Scientific was a once a proud and founding member of Curse Alliance, Xetic and ASCN. They once had leadership that logged on and cared about its corp. ItÆs a wonderfully old corp. of 5+ years with a rich history, 160+ T2 bpos. Much hard work and some great former pilots have been STK.
(Except Helen and Star wolf cause they nicked BPOs) :(
Currently do to absent and poor in experienced leadership they have made some very horrible decisions over the last 12 months. The legacy leadership continue to run STK from forums and havenÆt been active ingame for year+
Lakthar, now new CEO has inherited a mess and is trying to save the corp from imminent internal destruction.
Just to get you up to speed, once STK backstabbed M.pire alliance. Tomcatt who was CEO then bartered a deal with goons (sesfan and Gil Drillerson) so they could get positive standings and a home. Tomcatt was the one who fabricated that whole 42b for GBC rent crap and lied to his then alliance.
After they divorced M.pire, STK formed Black-out alliance, moved to Paragon Soul and purchased paragon from Goons. (Someone said it was like 30bilz) Anyways as Pet friend they were semi-active in the coalition but mostly Paragon Soul was used a staging area for Goon/RA logistics during the height of the coalitions "die in NOL campaign". This gave STK the ability to excel at isk whoring and industry. This once strategic region allowed Goons in Delve. Now is currently being vacated by STK Scientific/Black-out and freighters and Carriers being deployed for Amarr Empire.
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
They convinced themselves BoB was going to attack them, I even fakejoked about it a few times for ****s and giggles. In the end, they lacked the e-backbone of a pvp alliance and ran away like predicted.
p.s. Raeyn, at least you didnÆt loose a freighter in Jita this time. 
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MiBallzRhairy
Black Star Union
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Posted - 2008.05.28 16:39:00 -
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All this is true what cass says. <3
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:25:00 -
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Looks like cassnub got all the imporant details right. Real shame considering how bright things looked a year ago.
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Cupdeez
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:35:00 -
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I would like to point out the fact that black-out is also living in many of the stations KOS fought BOB and friends for only to have it taken away by -aaa-.
LetÆs see how many people RA and Goons can toss to the sharks with freakin laser beams!!
Wait my bad Goons and RA are just not going to help them. They would rather fight people in the north who were really never good a Fleet combat. Maybe they want to know what it feels like to win a fleet battle again. HAHAHAH
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Moonlight Express
Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:47:00 -
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What? RA and goons leaving their allies to die? Never! 
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rValdez5987
Asylum Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:11:00 -
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man... 0.0 sure is a mess...
All these alliances failure cascading... wont be long before the GBC occupies 5 regions again... My views and opinions are my own.
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n00b alt3
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 man... 0.0 sure is a mess...
All these alliances failure cascading... wont be long before the GBC occupies 5 regions again...
if gbc is taking paragon that makes it 5 (they retook fountain, right?)
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Spoon Flux on 28/05/2008 21:02:45 to the stk-s leadership, approx. june 2007 that suspected spider and myself helped star wolf's theft and kicked us:
we were not involved this time either.
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Flux Edited by: Spoon Flux on 28/05/2008 21:02:45 to the stk-s leadership, approx. june 2007 that suspected spider and myself helped star wolf's theft and kicked us:
we were not involved this time either.
This is lies. This is star wolfs alt char, I can tell by his witty response. DO NOT TRUST HIM.
Star was a witty corp theif, tread lightly. 
p.s. Kalkin and Kadka, RL brothers stole STKs gear. More news to come...
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:20:00 -
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thanks for the troll, helen.
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S106idan
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiuss
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
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S106idan
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Man I didn't even know blackout was under attack lol
It wasn't officially announced in CAOD, all I ever saw posted about bob and their pets was about BRUCE and MC engagements.
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The Cursed
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:03:00 -
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Sounds to me like this STK corp is a group @sshats and should be shot. Tbh id make a post everyday about how must this corp sucks @ss and ruin there name period. 150bil isk lots of iskky Beer em Good!!!!!!
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Kadka
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiuss p.s. Kalkin and Kadka, RL brothers stole STKs gear. More news to come...
It's real hard to steal assets when out of game, although do share if you know the secret. Nice to know the paranoia still runs deep though 
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:43:00 -
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its me, I laundered the assets.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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ChinkidyChina
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: *****idyChina on 28/05/2008 22:46:27
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver its me, I laundered the assets.
Oooh, out of game and out of alliance. What a pair! 
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Queeria
Galactic Bull-dike Society II
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:46:00 -
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No, it's me. I'm the thief in the OP.
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Salastil
Awesome Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:48:00 -
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Black-Out was under attack? Who attacked them and why?
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Star Wolf
StoneDogS Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Star Wolf on 28/05/2008 23:58:55 Cass is right, I can't believe I actually said that...STK-S used to be such a great corp when I first started. Bunch of great guys, they just lost there way.
I tried to warn you guys about Helen, but with no luck. Good luck guys and learn from your mistakes.
Star
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PleXD
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Star Wolf Edited by: Star Wolf on 28/05/2008 23:58:55 Cass is right, I can't believe I actually said that...STK-S used to be such a great corp when I first started. Bunch of great guys, they just lost there way.
I tried to warn you guys about Helen, but with no luck. Good luck guys and learn from your mistakes.
Star
So you killed off months of work from alot of people then stole billions of other peoples hard earned work for what? 1 person you didn't like? Just tell the truth mate you did it all because you are a **** wit and a greedy bastard. Stop hiding behind the lies. I really hope you get hit by a bus. -------- Those Arn't the Roids we are looking for. |
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: S106idan My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
The failure cascade started many weeks before this when we did a couple roams, and the panic posts on STK forums which started the demise.
Originally by: Kadka It's real hard to steal assets when out of game, although do share if you know the secret. Nice to know the paranoia still runs deep though 
Yes, yes I know you lost a carrier again and emoragequit but you both have alts, in fact if T2 was stolen it couldn't have been just you, Kalkin had the director roles to do this, combined the two of you are responsible for this thievery. I know the two of you are trying to deflect blame to others right now. I am sure Lakhthar is a smart guy and will remove the two of you soon enough.
Originally by: Salastil Black-Out was under attack? Who attacked them and why?
Attack? No not really. Some GBC corps put up a few POS to try and get some good fights. Black-out decided to run to empire and save assets. What they did wrong was post a withdrawal to empire on forums first before securing corp assets which triggered Kalkin and Kadka, two RL brothers to steal from STK.
There were some small fights according to the killboard but no major offensive was launched, mostly small gang pvp.
Originally by: Star Wolf Cass is right, I can't believe I actually said that...STK-S used to be such a great corp when I first started. Bunch of great guys, they just lost there way. I tried to warn you guys about Helen, but with no luck. Good luck guys and learn from your mistakes.
Helen is aces Star, your just ****y you didnt get any T2.
He did much for STK, after I was removed by Trevor and Temerlyn the corp went **** **** up imo. Not so much because of my removal but because soon after the entire corp that was STK Scientific left. Skillolers, Helen, Mini and aload others joined Tri and my old corp was left to be run by nubs and legacy CEOs and directors who play internetspaceships from vbulletin forums.
Like the saying goes, you reap what you sow. STK is getting "just deserts" because they deserve them. If you cba to logon once in awhile and fight alongside your troops and look after your corp security properly, then the countless corp thefts will continue to happen.
I know this isn't the end of STK but it should be.
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Vasili Z
Pyre of Gods
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Posted - 2008.05.29 01:00:00 -
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Kadka's pretty terrible at this game. -------
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views. Clouse Cloud alt |

Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 01:50:00 -
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*****idy alt, how would you know im out of game :P
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Brigsby5987
Asylum Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.29 01:54:00 -
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Quote: So you killed off months of work from alot of people then stole billions of other peoples hard earned work for what? 1 person you didn't like? Just tell the truth mate you did it all because you are a **** wit and a greedy bastard. Stop hiding behind the lies. I really hope you get hit by a bus.
**** dude, you need a break from the game.
Or did I forget... the internetz seriouz buziness. 
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Star Wolf Edited by: Star Wolf on 28/05/2008 23:58:55 Cass is right, I can't believe I actually said that...STK-S used to be such a great corp when I first started. Bunch of great guys, they just lost there way.
cass, more proof he's not me. i know the correct usage of the word "their".
star, i did chuckle at the irony of that statement, considering that the banner on the b-o forums has the tag line "find your way." nice one.
to stk: gl in whatever you do next. i just hope you don't disband if for no other reason than the great entertainment your forums provide me! (yes fairchild, i want you to keep reposting pics from /b/ please, just with less fur.)
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hungdra
Strong Arm Security
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:37:00 -
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I am sad to here this about STK-S, good bunch of people. Too bad they got screwed by BoB twice.
PS sucks anyway, its in the middle of nowhere. Crap mins, rats & neighbors that have a habit of breaking ****.
STK-S should join Razor, their talents would be recognized there.
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Star Wolf
StoneDogS Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiuss
He did much for STK, after I was removed by Trevor and Temerlyn the corp went **** **** up imo. Not so much because of my removal but because soon after the entire corp that was STK Scientific left. Skillolers, Helen, Mini and aload others joined Tri and my old corp was left to be run by nubs and legacy CEOs and directors who play internetspaceships from vbulletin forums.
Like the saying goes, you reap what you sow. STK is getting "just deserts" because they deserve them. If you cba to logon once in awhile and fight alongside your troops and look after your corp security properly, then the countless corp thefts will continue to happen.
I know this isn't the end of STK but it should be.
You need to get updated on your saint Helen and what he did for STK, or should I say took from STK-S. *sshh, supposed to keep quiet*
And didn't you clean out a few of the corp hangars in AZN using one of the shared accounts? or was that another Cassiuss, yeah, maybe that was it...
Don't try to make yourself out to be a saint, why were you booted again. I bet is was for doing to much work, that's usually why people get kicked...you probably lost your way too.
Let the drama continue....
Star
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Mr buttsmack
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Posted - 2008.05.29 03:03:00 -
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So who pushed you out? BoB never did it so was it just a bunch of PvP guys for s***s and laughs? and becouse of that you lost 150 bil of assets!!! take a note out of D.R's fight in ZS- they were small but brought down curse alliance and held out to the end! 
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Kadka
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kadka on 29/05/2008 03:08:44 Look at the corp theives go at it. Game on.
Cass, Lakh lives a half hour from me, if I were to do something like that, he'd kick my butt. Unlike you, I've built bridges, not burned them. And as the directors who were online can attest, I was offline, and Kalk has been fighting comp troubles and weather troubles (tornadoes are fun mmkay?). Get your facts straight and your head out of the clouds of insanity, just ask Lakh, since you seem to be so buddy buddy with him.
P.S. I haven't lost a carrier in 5 months; check the killboard and get with the times cassnub.
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.29 03:27:00 -
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Wonderful...All we need is sku11y and we'll have a full house of loons here. Although Starwolf can go play in traffic for all I care. That boy doesn't have a leg to stand on nore any reason to open his yap on the subject of STK.
Meh. This trainwreck stoped being my problem a month ago.
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Fairchild
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:06:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Spoon Flux
Originally by: Star Wolf Edited by: Star Wolf on 28/05/2008 23:58:55 Cass is right, I can't believe I actually said that...STK-S used to be such a great corp when I first started. Bunch of great guys, they just lost there way.
cass, more proof he's not me. i know the correct usage of the word "their".
star, i did chuckle at the irony of that statement, considering that the banner on the b-o forums has the tag line "find your way." nice one.
to stk: gl in whatever you do next. i just hope you don't disband if for no other reason than the great entertainment your forums provide me! (yes fairchild, i want you to keep reposting pics from /b/ please, just with less fur.)
I IS A FAMOUS!!1
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Raeyn
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 09:04:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Raeyn on 29/05/2008 09:06:49 Edited by: Raeyn on 29/05/2008 09:05:42 OMG I am posting in here
Cass I have upgraded and now lose carriers at an alarming rate.
Starwolf feel like giving back our Cap bpos and somehow restarting the mom builds you cancelled?
Helen we also wouldnt mind a few sabres when you have free time
Where to begin on this as I tend not to post in here. Attacks on me fine bring it. Attacks on STK I take very personally as I have over the past year and a half done nothing but try to keep STK from unraveling in the face of some of the largest corp thefts in eve. The shear magnitude would have bellied even the hardiest of corporations. When you see STK pull up roots and move its not because we lack the blood thirst it's because since my time we joined Invictus and were forced to live in a pos, joined Ro3 only to have our mothership program scuttled by Starwolf who apparenly was upset the acting BoD at the time asked Cass to step down as Director because of his temper and plain outrage he showed towards the common pilot. I was also a recipient of said outlash. Cass remeber my first freighter loss ;)
We had a great thing up north with Mpire. I have fond memories and in a heartbeat would fly with mpire to this day. We got outplobbed by a 17 alliance coalition and Mpire allaince leadership decided it was better to capitulate due to the shear burdon it had taken on the leadership.
Tomcatt at the time had little option once Mpire fell and the Goonswarm offer was the best option for STK. No isk was paid to Goonswarm; However we did purchase MP5/LX5 for 10 bill from KOS. So we created Blackout. We had our ups and downs great FC's came and went and came back. The future of Blackout is still being created.
The latest theft came at a time of flux and was one of the rare times some of our assets where accumulated in one place and it became a theft of convinence. Despite the original posts claim's all our t2 bpo's are snuggly tucked away and I sleep very well at night knowing that fact. It will not be long before we start flooding the market again. I will take a shot at a few of the big guys on the block you may have blobs, moms, and titans but our Library of T2 bpos is among one of the finest. I cannot thank enough the old timers and the guys behind the scenes enough in STK that allow us to suffer such events and allow us to soldier on.
For those in the know sorry I had to post as I have put alot of myself into STK over the past year and take offense to some of the things being spoken of in here. I can only atest to the great corp STK has been to me over the past year and a half. I am very proud to fly under her banner through thick an thin.
Lak, I paid my fine for posting its in t2 sales
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: S106idan
Originally by: Cassiuss
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
My only problem with this statement is that GQ2 is a goonswarm station, which was rather effectively defended by 3 goon titans.
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Lakhthaar
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lakhthaar on 29/05/2008 10:39:35
Originally by: Raeyn
Lak, I paid my fine for posting its in t2 sales
Premeditated posting? I should charge fine you twice. We could use the isk right now too.
We'll be alright. Time to start a new chapter in STK history.
Although, it would be nice to shake loose some of the past history.
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Smith
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:39:00 -
[55]
STK has jumped so many sinking ships its pretty incredible they are still around.
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Cippalippus Primus
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:46:00 -
[56]
it's not about choosing the right ship, it's all about knowing when to bail. -clp
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Smith
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:58:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus it's not about choosing the right ship, it's all about knowing when to bail.
lol
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Rattbastard
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Posted - 2008.05.29 11:51:00 -
[58]
Some information is incorrect. No BPOs were taken. None of any significance anyway. They were already in a different location. What was taken was an especially well mixed group of ships fo the sales program and alliance/corp use. Let's not forget also that those folks that dump their personal stuff into hangars to be moved out lost a buttload of that.
I know of folks that had the roles to do this deed. Not only that, I know who the first person was to point out that everything had been taken from the Sales and Secure Q hangars. It happened over a period of two hours where things were moved into someone's personal hangar. I know a few of the short list of suspects and believe me it will rattle the rafters when it is announced. Happened before it will probably happen again.
Now personally I can also attest to the fact that many people from within STK and Black-out have been shopping around for new corps. The options that we are presented with are not as fruitful as they once were, coming from a corp with such a great history. The recent mismanagement, nay, absence of management, has left a bad taste in our mouths. The lack of capable FC's has also been detrimental. I know a few people that are waiting a short period of time to find out where things are going. Hopefully there will be a decent direction. But no matter what happens, you tards will always be critical of decisions that great corps make. It helps you feel better about yourselves.
And BTW- I was there when Cassius tried to warn the leadership about Star Wolf, Helen, and others. He was shunned because he spoke the truth. It was all said and done before the truth had reached the ears of the masses. Kudos to you brother for preaching truth, justice, and the Canadian way!
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Slayton Ford
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:41:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: S106idan
Originally by: Cassiuss
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
My only problem with this statement is that GQ2 is a goonswarm station, which was rather effectively defended by 3 goon titans.
Um no.
At the time GQ2 was happening, Goons only had ONE titan (Deadtear). --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |

SpaceSavage
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:51:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: S106idan
Originally by: Cassiuss
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
My only problem with this statement is that GQ2 is a goonswarm station, which was rather effectively defended by 3 goon titans.
Um no.
At the time GQ2 was happening, Goons only had ONE titan (Deadtear).
Not true.
I know this because i lost half my fleet to Deadtear, and then warped to another gate with the rest of them, where another titan was waiting.
:)
Blackout, EXE has only fought you for the past month or so, in that time you've managed to lose capitals almost daily, and continuously supply all the GBC with fruitful targets. Maybe once you were strong, but you became complacent.
Anywho... bye bye Blackout. It was fun whilst it lasted. _______________
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 15:58:00 -
[61]
I don't normally post others corps internal forums dramas but I cant let the corp theif known as Kalkin off without posting this forum pron.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalkin this is the first time i logged on to this forum in 3 weeks. I haven'tlogged in to the game in that ammount of time. The next person thataccuses me of lifting so much as a finger against my corp or allianceloses their forum access, their roles, and will be booted from corp. Ifyou don't know me better then that you can get ******. I have nopatience for asshatery. Mccool, **** you. If i ever see you and you make anything resembling a traitorous insinuation i'll kill you.
Enjoy.
Kalkin, more RL threats? You should think twice before you **** with the Irish. LOL I'm suprised your sore about being caught.
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Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.29 16:25:00 -
[62]
Oh god this thread is great.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 16:35:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Cassiuss I don't normally post others corps internal forums dramas but I cant let the corp theif known as Kalkin off without posting this forum pron.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalkin this is the first time i logged on to this forum in 3 weeks. I haven'tlogged in to the game in that ammount of time. The next person thataccuses me of lifting so much as a finger against my corp or allianceloses their forum access, their roles, and will be booted from corp. Ifyou don't know me better then that you can get ******. I have nopatience for asshatery. Mccool, **** you. If i ever see you and you make anything resembling a traitorous insinuation i'll kill you.
Enjoy.
Kalkin, more RL threats? You should think twice before you **** with the Irish. LOL I'm suprised your sore about being caught.
Cass(aka Caod's tubbgurl),
Proof or STFU. I can vouch for everything that Kadka and Kalkin have stated.
To the exe outcomes guy....I would have loved to have and continue to have fights with you guys. But the problem was it was never just you guys as my eyes in TCAG always let me know :D Hence you never got a ***** at my supercaps. Whenever I was around, you had your masters on speed dial, 1-800-savemyarse. Remember that 200 vs. 30ish fiasco in g-m?
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Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.29 16:55:00 -
[64]
Actually I'll say one thing what I stole was a **** in the ocean compared to what I could of stole back when STK left ASCN. I still remember seeing unlocked t2 bpos worth 500billion isk or more in my hangar at one stage.
Point is Star Wolf and whoever else, if I meant to steal from STK before why didn't I do it back then? Answers on a postcard kthx.
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SpaceSavage
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 16:55:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze To the exe outcomes guy....I would have loved to have and continue to have fights with you guys. But the problem was it was never just you guys as my eyes in TCAG always let me know :D Hence you never got a ***** at my supercaps. Whenever I was around, you had your masters on speed dial, 1-800-savemyarse. Remember that 200 vs. 30ish fiasco in g-m?
Well, im not going to start saying KB stats this, KB stats that... but the G-M blob was a one off :) The idea was to catch more of your caps but of the sneeky buggers managed to get out before we could get extra tacklers. The 200 was possibly a bit overkill, yes. :)
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week? Hehe was fun, at least you guys used your caps instead of hiding them in POS's, im not saying that gate camping with carriers is a smart idea, but it made it fun all the same.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 17:32:00 -
[66]
You can take the corp out of Xetic, but you can never take the Xetic...
Yeah, whatever.
on the other hand, of the starting corps of what probably is the biggest sequence of carebear alliances in Eve history (XIF, Xetic, ASCN, Vala-whatever and all the fail spinoffs like blackout that came after), STK has been second best. Afaik the only corp that beat it in the 'times a corp has run for cover once someone started shooting them' ranking would be XT.
For survival however, my money is on XT over you guys. They've got the nap trick down better.
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Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:02:00 -
[67]
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:08:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Rod Blaine You can take the corp out of Xetic, but you can never take the Xetic...
Yeah, whatever.
on the other hand, of the starting corps of what probably is the biggest sequence of carebear alliances in Eve history (XIF, Xetic, ASCN, Vala-whatever and all the fail spinoffs like blackout that came after),
Harsh 
Btw mccool is da best \o
- Gob
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Ter Aris
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:10:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Ter Aris on 29/05/2008 18:11:58
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
Orly?
Im pretty sure it was me who set up the OP to kill these two carriers. Clarify with Cliest if you need to. :)
But hey what do i know Commander Solo? Heh
edit: link, http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25987
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:16:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: S106idan
Originally by: Cassiuss
Tbh, I think we sent some roaming gangs for pvp fun and in turn they failcascade do to carebears spouting "Run for hills" rhetoric posts on internal forums.
My only problem with this statement is that the bob pets POS Spammed the station systems H8 and GQ2 from the start.
My only problem with this statement is that GQ2 is a goonswarm station, which was rather effectively defended by 3 goon titans.
Um no.
At the time GQ2 was happening, Goons only had ONE titan (Deadtear).
This may be why blackout are struggling tbh, the third goon titan was unveiled in GQ2 doomsdaying an EXE gang that was passing through to blackout space, there was 2 other titans sitting at a pos at the time.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:17:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Ter Aris Edited by: Ter Aris on 29/05/2008 18:11:58
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
Orly?
Im pretty sure it was me who set up the OP to kill these two carriers. Clarify with Cliest if you need to. :)
But hey what do i know Commander Solo? Heh
edit: link, http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25987
remember there is no "we" in the GBC
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:19:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Rod Blaine You can take the corp out of Xetic, but you can never take the Xetic...
Yeah, whatever.
on the other hand, of the starting corps of what probably is the biggest sequence of carebear alliances in Eve history (XIF, Xetic, ASCN, Vala-whatever and all the fail spinoffs like blackout that came after),
Harsh 
Btw mccool is da best \o
- Gob
Hey, I was in the corp that ended up in empire first of the four corps that started things 
Neither STK nor XT have changed much however. Figures they ended up good producers but failed powers.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:26:00 -
[73]
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Originally by: Davlin Lotze But the problem was it was never just you guys as my eyes in TCAG always let me know :D Hence you never got a ***** at my supercaps. Whenever I was around, you had your masters on speed dial, 1-800-savemyarse. Remember that 200 vs. 30ish fiasco in g-m?
but the G-M blob was a one off :) The idea was to catch more of your caps but of the sneeky buggers managed to get out before we could get extra tacklers. The 200 was possibly a bit overkill, yes. :)
Thing is its not actually possible to get only 30 bob to come if there is 150 of them trying to get out of shooting a pos.
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Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:52:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Commander Solo on 29/05/2008 18:53:51
Originally by: Ter Aris Edited by: Ter Aris on 29/05/2008 18:11:58
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
Orly?
Im pretty sure it was me who set up the OP to kill these two carriers. Clarify with Cliest if you need to. :)
But hey what do i know Commander Solo? Heh
edit: link, http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25987
lol.
You may have had a hand in those two, sure. The others and the rorqual mentioned in your alliance mates post were ours, which was the point i was contesting.
Your post even highlights that.
Using "we" to describe GBC forces is poor, i find "allied forces" or "GBC Forces" much more descriptive and accurate considering the number of parties involved.
Im not here to argue with you mate, just to clarify the situation. AS you can see from my post i went to the extent of saying D-R/Shinra forces as it provides much more info for the readers of these forums.
But what do i know?
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Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:59:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Rod Blaine You can take the corp out of Xetic, but you can never take the Xetic...
Yeah, whatever.
on the other hand, of the starting corps of what probably is the biggest sequence of carebear alliances in Eve history (XIF, Xetic, ASCN, Vala-whatever and all the fail spinoffs like blackout that came after),
Harsh 
Btw mccool is da best \o
- Gob
Hey, I was in the corp that ended up in empire first of the four corps that started things 
Neither STK nor XT have changed much however. Figures they ended up good producers but failed powers.
Not like no one tried but STK was always strangled by preconceptions of EvE and indeed PvP.
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:58:00 -
[76]
I love how all the unscrupulous drama queens of STK's past have come out of the woodwork to troll this thread. 
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Hayman Wakefield
Trans-Stellar Salvage Shipping and Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:04:00 -
[77]
I'm only posting here because I used to mine with Cass and make stupid ship losing mistakes with Helen. Oh and it amuses me to semi stalk them. Hi guys o/
P.s I'm going to have to stalk you more in Nightmare threads Helen 
Originally by: Capt Harlock "I have a mouse with a green tail". It's tail may or may not be green. The car however is mating with a monkey".
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:05:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Commander Solo Edited by: Commander Solo on 29/05/2008 18:53:51
Originally by: Ter Aris Edited by: Ter Aris on 29/05/2008 18:11:58
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
Orly?
Im pretty sure it was me who set up the OP to kill these two carriers. Clarify with Cliest if you need to. :)
But hey what do i know Commander Solo? Heh
edit: link, http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25987
lol.
You may have had a hand in those two, sure. The others and the rorqual mentioned in your alliance mates post were ours, which was the point i was contesting.
Your post even highlights that.
Using "we" to describe GBC forces is poor, i find "allied forces" or "GBC Forces" much more descriptive and accurate considering the number of parties involved.
Im not here to argue with you mate, just to clarify the situation. AS you can see from my post i went to the extent of saying D-R/Shinra forces as it provides much more info for the readers of these forums.
But what do i know?
Not really, by saying shinra/dfc its you are actually claiming to the contrary saying that shinra and dfc set up all the kills, including ones you were barely involved in whereas my corpmate said the gbc had killed them all (use of we maybe confusing). so stfu
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Derrios
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:06:00 -
[79]
I can confirm this thread has epic trolling
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EYEDOLL
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:28:00 -
[80]
I like pancakes..
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Slayton Ford
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:01:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Cassiuss I don't normally post others corps internal forums dramas but I cant let the corp theif known as Kalkin off without posting this forum pron.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalkin this is the first time i logged on to this forum in 3 weeks. I haven'tlogged in to the game in that ammount of time. The next person thataccuses me of lifting so much as a finger against my corp or allianceloses their forum access, their roles, and will be booted from corp. Ifyou don't know me better then that you can get ******. I have nopatience for asshatery. Mccool, **** you. If i ever see you and you make anything resembling a traitorous insinuation i'll kill you.
Enjoy.
Kalkin, more RL threats? You should think twice before you **** with the Irish. LOL I'm suprised your sore about being caught.
Isnt this surprising. A BoB member reposts internal forum posts and there isn't a COAD Mod for miles around... --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |

Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:06:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Slayton Ford Isnt this surprising. A BoB member reposts internal forum posts and there isn't a COAD Mod for miles around...
So did STK delete any mention of me and cassiuss then?  You gotta be new to STK or just dumb not to know us.
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:19:00 -
[83]
Originally by: EYEDOLL I like pancakes..
Oh Jesus, now I know why STK has so much fail. LOL
Eyedoll you nub, you will not derail this thread with your epic ********ness. 
p.s. Has STK kicked Kalkin or Kadka for their transgressions yet?
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Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:20:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: EYEDOLL I like pancakes..
Oh Jesus, now I know why STK has so much fail. LOL
Eyedoll you nub, you will not derail this thread with your epic ********ness. 
p.s. Has STK kicked Kalkin or Kadka for their transgressions yet?
Doubt it you commie canuck!
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EYEDOLL
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:44:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: EYEDOLL I like pancakes..
Oh Jesus, now I know why STK has so much fail. LOL
Eyedoll you nub, you will not derail this thread with your epic ********ness. 
p.s. Has STK kicked Kalkin or Kadka for their transgressions yet?
Dear Cassius, i don't tend to lower myself to certain levels, so i'm simply gonna reply with a friendly "i hope someone burns your car when you're still inside". Damn, guess i did fall that deep. No pun intended though.. P.S.: Do you still suck that hard in PvP 1 on 1 as you did in the past? Cuz darling... that was memorable! You sucked harder than Jenna in her glorydays. No wonder you joined b0b in blobwars. Guess they're always looking for cannonfodder. Say "hi" to SW from me.
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RIPZeus
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 21:49:00 -
[86]
Edited by: RIPZeus on 29/05/2008 21:51:26
Originally by: EYEDOLL
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: EYEDOLL I like pancakes..
Oh Jesus, now I know why STK has so much fail. LOL
Eyedoll you nub, you will not derail this thread with your epic ********ness. 
p.s. Has STK kicked Kalkin or Kadka for their transgressions yet?
Dear Cassius, i don't tend to lower myself to certain levels, so i'm simply gonna reply with a friendly "i hope someone burns your car when you're still inside". Damn, guess i did fall that deep. No pun intended though.. P.S.: Do you still suck that hard in PvP 1 on 1 as you did in the past? Cuz darling... that was memorable! You sucked harder than Jenna in her glorydays. No wonder you joined b0b in blobwars. Guess they're always looking for cannonfodder. Say "hi" to SW from me.
This is a fun thread.. And i agree with eyedoll here, He does like those pancakes. 
And Starwolf, Why haven't you showed your pretty face in the Tash murkon area? I had fun blowing your ass up and getting T2 ships and a 300mil reward for it. Come back buddy. I want more of that. :D |

Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:12:00 -
[87]
drama's over folks, ripzeus found all the stuff in his hangar.
he's still getting used to his new mac pro computer. the bouncing eve icon in the dock distracted him and made him click carelessly.
at least he finally embraced a superior gaming platform!
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:17:00 -
[88]
so you're saying ripzeus is the thief ? :)
or the stuff is not in fact stolen but was in his hangar.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Kadka
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:19:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Kadka on 29/05/2008 22:19:50 Spoon's just being...Spoon, Aaron. Please don't make this another Mac vs. PC argument...so many of those already.
Guess what Cass? I'm still here /
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:26:00 -
[90]
nah, rip's not a thief. everyone knows that if you can afford a mac, you don't need to resort to thievery.
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Kadka
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:59:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Spoon Flux nah, rip's not a thief. everyone knows that if you can afford a mac, you don't need to resort to thievery.
Well there you go, proof of my innocence 
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 23:02:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Cassiuss p.s. Has STK kicked Kalkin or Kadka for their transgressions yet?
Could you pass the weaksauce? Its next to the jar of Epic Fail.
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RIPZeus
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 00:17:00 -
[93]
Actully Spoon.
Mac users have to resort to thivery, cause of the high cost of a mac :D
Yes i stole all the n00b stuff we had and sold it to bob for a high price. i think it was somewhere in the 2 million range. I did this so i could afford my mac book air. Which only has one USB. But i am high end and have extremly high standards to even care that my Mac book air has only 1 USB...
If any of you belive this. Your a effin moron.
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 00:37:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Kadka
Originally by: Spoon Flux nah, rip's not a thief. everyone knows that if you can afford a mac, you don't need to resort to thievery.
Well there you go, proof of my innocence 
Proof of your innocence from Star Wolf's alt? LOL, See I knew something was very wrong.
Anyhow it's pretty clear to the rest of the EvE community that the gatekeepers of 160+ T2 BPOs (probably much less now) are clearly incapable of looking after said assets. Please liquidate and send me my dividends, close corp and start new.
Hey maybe under corp ticker Ginger Kids of EvE, -GKIDS- that's kinda fitting for you.
Good luck STK, I am sure the next 12 months will bring us even more laffs at your expense.
p.s. Hai Badfish <3
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Temerlyn
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 00:51:00 -
[95]
Like cassius you are seriously ****** up. Your posts just reek of a person still *****ing the ****s like a 5 year old because he wasn't allowed to go to the play ground.
Why do you even care?
You screwed us as much as anyone else and yet your trying to give yourself the moral high ground, you, helen and starwolf are all in the same boat. People who are two faced and when even the slightest "GIVE ME WHAT I WANT" tantrum happens you screw the hooch if you dont get what you want.
If we were to close STK its not because we cant recover, we could recover time and time again without to much hassle. We would close down because the game mechanics makes us trust no one. No point in playing this game when its two faced mechanics allow us to be thefted yet no means to seek justice even when we have the proof we need.
Many would say dont put people in charge who will steal from you. Quite frankly you can never know until its too late and the last corp theieves have been people stealing from us because they didn't like the decisions we made. Selfish bastards who thought forthemselves instead of the whole group.
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Pasha Cracken
Thanos and Killjoy Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.30 00:54:00 -
[96]
whos black out? -----
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COMMANDER POLO
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Posted - 2008.05.30 01:32:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Commander Solo Edited by: Commander Solo on 29/05/2008 18:53:51
Originally by: Ter Aris Edited by: Ter Aris on 29/05/2008 18:11:58
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: SpaceSavage
Saying that though, i think we killed what, 5/6 caps + a rorq in the space of a week?
Translation : Digital Renegades/Shinra setup the kills, everyone else came along to get on the mails and loot.
Orly?
Im pretty sure it was me who set up the OP to kill these two carriers. Clarify with Cliest if you need to. :)
But hey what do i know Commander Solo? Heh
edit: link, http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25987
lol.
You may have had a hand in those two, sure. The others and the rorqual mentioned in your alliance mates post were ours, which was the point i was contesting.
Your post even highlights that.
Using "we" to describe GBC forces is poor, i find "allied forces" or "GBC Forces" much more descriptive and accurate considering the number of parties involved.
Im not here to argue with you mate, just to clarify the situation. AS you can see from my post i went to the extent of saying D-R/Shinra forces as it provides much more info for the readers of these forums.
But what do i know?
Not really, by saying shinra/dfc its you are actually claiming to the contrary saying that shinra and dfc set up all the kills, including ones you were barely involved in whereas my corpmate said the gbc had killed them all (use of we maybe confusing). so stfu
Executive Outcomes(working alone) killed Black out so quickly that they had time to get hot dropped by Red Alliance 50 jumps away!!!!
cofirm/deny
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Star Wolf
StoneDogS Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 01:41:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Smith STK has jumped so many sinking ships its pretty incredible they are still around.
I don't think you understand Smith. STK-S has a lot of high end t2 bpos, hundreds...in there prime before invention...it could bring in 9-13 B a week. The problem with a corp that can bring in so much isk is that the members can be left behind because they're not really needed to be a profitable corp.
At it's core, STK are industrialist. They've always tried to be more, but its like trying to make a duck act like a dog. IF they stay true to there roots they will be successful again.
Good luck guys, unfortunately the community has lost some faith in STK, but nothing you can't gain back.
STar
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Jirai Tew'rist
A1T0. Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:17:00 -
[99]
If you would like anyone to hold your funds and items, you know so they don't get stolen. You can count on me.
Can I has some money?
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:18:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Temerlyn Why do you even care?
Well, it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 720mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Dingo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.
Btw, you could have just asked me on msn Tem. :)
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Salastil
Awesome Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:26:00 -
[101]
I hear the more you post about great BoB is, the more roles you get. Isn't that right?
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Apophis Omega
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:46:00 -
[102]
TBH I think the CAOD post of SJ and his pink thong is better than this one. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:59:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Apophis Omega TBH I think the CAOD post of SJ and his pink thong is better than this one.
I concur.
I think this thread could be redeemed by Cassiuss posting a pic of himself in a thong.
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Plamya
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 03:27:00 -
[104]
Alright the gloves are off, at least 4 of you is gonna get bitten by ol' dirty Plamya, from behind. Woe is you!
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Kadka
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 04:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: Temerlyn Why do you even care?
Well, it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 720mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Dingo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.
Btw, you could have just asked me on msn Tem. :)
The righteous man doesn't steal the wool off the flock amidst a winter's storm. You'd like that indeed, being the shepherd. You'd like to be trusted and followed again. But you never will. The flocks will shy away from you, for your staff bears only pain, and your hands hold poisoned seed.
I can play this analogy game too. I'm better. Tell me Cass, after being rebuked by everyone who might have ever thought you friend, why not just quit and slither away as you've done before? At least this time, it'd be for the good of the flock. But that would requiring shedding your cloak of arrogance and admitting that you're wrong. By wrong I don't mean say that you're guilty, you've already done that. Admit, to the waiting flock and to yourself, that you willingly syphoned countless hours of hard work from individuals who's sole pleasure in this game is to provide others with enjoyment. The corp has been hurt, but has recovered. The individual, Cassiuss, is the one who suffers most from your treachery. You haven't lived up to your name; the Cassius of legend killed a man to help the people. You hurt the people to help a man.
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CRACKDESTROYER1
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Posted - 2008.05.30 05:22:00 -
[106]
I can confirm they were hot dropped
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EYEDOLL
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 05:48:00 -
[107]
That all being said, i still like those pancakes.. Anyone?
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Puppy Love
Anti-Macro League
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Posted - 2008.05.30 07:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: EYEDOLL That all being said, i still like those pancakes.. Anyone?
If you bring the maple syrup, I'll bring the pancakes.
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arghy steelwill
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.30 09:19:00 -
[109]
Its times like this i miss The mittani, he always broke it down so elegantly. Oh well i'll just have to live with the dictatorship without the chatpron(thought it always made following orders without question more enjoyable!). High 5 cassius keep breaking down these complicated problems for the front line folk!
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Amon Raa
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:36:00 -
[110]
This is just a grunt speaking but even grunts speak sometime... I had a blast with STK and Blackout too!!! I just hate corp thives..whatever reason they give after they STEAL from you... StarWolf,Helen,Cass,and whoever did it now... I now that CEO-s and directors do all the work in this game and us grunts have all the fun,and they burnout in 6-9 months! But why dont you leave like Mccol did? No stealing no drama just say you have enough and you wanna break from leadership!!! On the issue of Blackout leaving:We leaked good FC-s and PVP-ers from STK for many months and now its to late to rep... We did some stupid cap loses camping gates with Carriers and no scouts... We lacked EU timezone BAD... We did looked weak and wolves came We did quit to fast(my opinion) Summary: -I HATE corp thieves -I love good pew pew -Will do that in low sec for now...
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Phoenix Pryde
3-I Area 42
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:34:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Rod Blaine You can take the corp out of Xetic, but you can never take the Xetic...
Yeah, whatever.
on the other hand, of the starting corps of what probably is the biggest sequence of carebear alliances in Eve history (XIF, Xetic, ASCN, Vala-whatever and all the fail spinoffs like blackout that came after), STK has been second best. Afaik the only corp that beat it in the 'times a corp has run for cover once someone started shooting them' ranking would be XT.
For survival however, my money is on XT over you guys. They've got the nap trick down better.
oi, yo Rod ... i think i ve actually to jump in here in defence of XT 
I m pretty sure XT and STK have some stuff in common (not just Xetic), but there are some quite large differences there ... for starters XT being evil communists, while STK are capitalists ... and so on.
But more importantly, i actually disagree strongly about XT beating STK when it comes to running. As a matter of fact XT hardly ever actually ran. They might have sat on lost causes, but didnt run. Their alliance history is certainly smaller too, XF / TRUST / D2, MH being the 4th. XF and D2 crumbled, but it was XT who more or less pulled a last man standing in XF and stayed also in D2 till the end while plenty others already went other ways. Granted, not to much effect in the end, and maybe it was just german stubbornness and/or a little denial, but they certainly didnt run off, gave in or hopped alliances aimlessly.
Anyway, you Evol guys are evil commies too. You'll probably frown at me for saying so, but i think XT and Evol probably have more in common (quite different mindset and endgame though) than XT and STK.
Oh, and yeah, the ghost of Xetic will never die. Its amazing how much stuff can be traced back to it. Even yourself ;)
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:27:00 -
[112]
Whatever happened to Randuin anyway ? He still doing minnie RP ?
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 17:30:00 -
[113]
im still confirming i stole the stuff.
and as for game mechanics allowing thievery your sure right. i always had limited number of directors, you need a director role to be a leadership in your corp or alliance.
however as time went on i got more flexible with it, and i still neve rhad a corp theft. not that i had much to steal. lol
however, if i were stk, i and i alone would have access to everything, and lock down everything else.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Apophis Omega
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.05.30 18:41:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Rubra
Originally by: Apophis Omega TBH I think the CAOD post of SJ and his pink thong is better than this one.
I concur.
I think this thread could be redeemed by Cassiuss posting a pic of himself in a thong.
I disagree.
I think tomcatt (\0/ texas man) in a cowboy hat and leather boots with a thong on would redeem this thread. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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EYEDOLL
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.30 18:45:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Puppy Love
Originally by: EYEDOLL That all being said, i still like those pancakes.. Anyone?
If you bring the maple syrup, I'll bring the pancakes.
It's a date, but make sure they're nice and buttery
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:05:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Spoon Flux on 30/05/2008 19:05:26
Originally by: Apophis Omega
Originally by: Rubra
Originally by: Apophis Omega TBH I think the CAOD post of SJ and his pink thong is better than this one.
I concur.
I think this thread could be redeemed by Cassiuss posting a pic of himself in a thong.
I disagree.
I think tomcatt (\0/ texas man) in a cowboy hat and leather boots with a thong on would redeem this thread.
Originally by: EYEDOLL
Originally by: Puppy Love
Originally by: EYEDOLL That all being said, i still like those pancakes.. Anyone?
If you bring the maple syrup, I'll bring the pancakes.
It's a date, but make sure they're nice and buttery
i recommend combining these two ideas for epic win. tomcat in boots+thong with a buttery, syrupy pancake on his head!
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Apophis Omega
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:13:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Spoon Flux Edited by: Spoon Flux on 30/05/2008 19:05:26
Originally by: Apophis Omega
Originally by: Rubra
Originally by: Apophis Omega TBH I think the CAOD post of SJ and his pink thong is better than this one.
I concur.
I think this thread could be redeemed by Cassiuss posting a pic of himself in a thong.
I disagree.
I think tomcatt (\0/ texas man) in a cowboy hat and leather boots with a thong on would redeem this thread.
Originally by: EYEDOLL
Originally by: Puppy Love
Originally by: EYEDOLL That all being said, i still like those pancakes.. Anyone?
If you bring the maple syrup, I'll bring the pancakes.
It's a date, but make sure they're nice and buttery
i recommend combining these two ideas for epic win. tomcat in boots+thong with a buttery, syrupy pancake on his head!
I will agree to these terms. What about you rubra? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Phoenix Pryde
3-I Area 42
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:50:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Whatever happened to Randuin anyway ? He still doing minnie RP ?
No idea, havent seen him around for some time. But he s still in one of these punk RP outfits, so i d say he never stopped ;)
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Spoon Flux
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2008.06.02 03:33:00 -
[119]
to whoever stole the stuff:
reveal yourself and i will give you delicious cake!
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Dkiler
Dkiller Delta Force Corp. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.06.02 03:58:00 -
[120]
Pecan Pie just arrived , slice any1 

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Lakhthaar
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 07:57:00 -
[121]
Skelator0311 aka Demonik Llama is the thief. This charge is not made lightly and without exhausting all resources and leads.
Thank you Raeyn for your hard work in looking into these matters. Theft of this magnitude shakes the will of many to continue playing the game. But, now that we're convinced that we know who the thief is, we can move on.
I think some people owe Kalkin and Kadka an apology.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:11:00 -
[122]
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Tiger Delivery
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:19:00 -
[123]
You guys rely too much on your tangible assets. Solid friendships are more important. Just look at the Goonies.
If assets aren't the core strentgh of your group, then greed cannot destroy you. If trust isn't held as themost important virtue, then spies cannot harm you.
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:20:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Tiger Delivery You guys rely too much on your tangible assets. Solid friendships are more important. Just look at the Goonies.
If assets aren't the core strentgh of your group, then greed cannot destroy you. If trust isn't held as themost important virtue, then spies cannot harm you.
The only true power is the power of friendship
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Setana Manoro
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:47:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Tiger Delivery You guys rely too much on your tangible assets. Solid friendships are more important. Just look at the Goonies.
If assets aren't the core strentgh of your group, then greed cannot destroy you. If trust isn't held as themost important virtue, then spies cannot harm you.
WoW, you really are serious, aren't you ?
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Grath Telkin
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.15 15:41:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 15/06/2008 15:40:53
Originally by: Lakhthaar
I think some people owe Kalkin and Kadka an apology.
oh but not me? you guys really are too friggin much.
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 15:59:00 -
[127]
I totally predicted all this 4 years ago
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 16:20:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Lakhthaar Skelator0311 aka Demonik Llama is the thief. This charge is not made lightly and without exhausting all resources and leads.
Thank you Raeyn for your hard work in looking into these matters. Theft of this magnitude shakes the will of many to continue playing the game. But, now that we're convinced that we know who the thief is, we can move on.
I think some people owe Kalkin and Kadka an apology.
LOL apology, good one. :)
The fact that your RL friends with Kalkin and Kadka (kadka even stated earlier on these forums you live like around the corner from him) sadly has colored your judgment imo. *Sigh* Poor STK, it will be a sad day when one of those two brothers finally get there hands on its trillion+ ISK assets. Those who know them, understand what they are capable of.
So Lak, where is the proof that Kalkin or Kadka didn't steal these assets. Did Skelator come out and admit his thievery?
Where is the proof of their innocence? How did you find out Skelator stole these assets?
Curious minds want to know...
p.s. What is STK up to these days, you guys still living out of empire trying to down freighters?
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Grath Telkin
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.15 17:11:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: Lakhthaar Skelator0311 aka Demonik Llama is the thief. This charge is not made lightly and without exhausting all resources and leads.
Thank you Raeyn for your hard work in looking into these matters. Theft of this magnitude shakes the will of many to continue playing the game. But, now that we're convinced that we know who the thief is, we can move on.
I think some people owe Kalkin and Kadka an apology.
LOL apology, good one. :)
The fact that your RL friends with Kalkin and Kadka (kadka even stated earlier on these forums you live like around the corner from him) sadly has colored your judgment imo. *Sigh* Poor STK, it will be a sad day when one of those two brothers finally get there hands on its trillion+ ISK assets. Those who know them, understand what they are capable of.
So Lak, where is the proof that Kalkin or Kadka didn't steal these assets. Did Skelator come out and admit his thievery?
Where is the proof of their innocence? How did you find out Skelator stole these assets?
Curious minds want to know...
p.s. What is STK up to these days, you guys still living out of empire trying to down freighters?
actually they tried to link me to it as well, but giving up api access to a neutral party, proved them wrong. AFAIK skel has never admitted to the theft, and its simply guilt by omission here (he wouldn't give up his API key like i did).
STK has a cancer, it likes its witch hunts too much, and it usually targets those who invest the most time in the alliance/corp. They have a tendency towards nasty infighting, and back stabbing on a scale I've never seen. To top it off, it usually spills over into whatever alliance they occupy at the time, tearing it apart.
Again, Kalkin and Kadka were never proven innocent any more than Skel was, and its all to me wracked up to assumptions and best guesses, which is all they have to go on. To top it off, Kadka personally drove out alot of the more dedicated players in that alliance with his constant badgering, and accusations of not doing anything (hard words from a guy who logs in twice a week). Kalkin is famous for his lies of "Oh were poor" and then finding him having larges sums of isk, totaling in 10's of billions hidden on alt accounts.
The funny part is how many of their members think they sound stupid for even bringing my name up. Do yourselves a favor, just disband the corp before you do any more harm to a failing reputation.
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.15 17:42:00 -
[130]
Don't look at me. I never had roles from day one or even graced paragon soul. Turns out it was a good thing too. 
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 19:51:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
actually they tried to link me to it as well, but giving up api access to a neutral party, proved them wrong. AFAIK skel has never admitted to the theft, and its simply guilt by omission here (he wouldn't give up his API key like i did).
He wouldn't cough up the api like you did. And that's not something worthy of you taking note of before jumping on the "prove it wasnt someone else" bandwagon?
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Grath Telkin
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:00:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Grath Telkin
actually they tried to link me to it as well, but giving up api access to a neutral party, proved them wrong. AFAIK skel has never admitted to the theft, and its simply guilt by omission here (he wouldn't give up his API key like i did).
He wouldn't cough up the api like you did. And that's not something worthy of you taking note of before jumping on the "prove it wasnt someone else" bandwagon?
your missing the entire point Davlin, i did put a ton of work into making things work in that alliance. I wouldnt even take the free ships they were offering for being the ONLY friggin FC that did anything. So why the hell could they even THINK i had anything to do with the theft?
The mere insinuation disgust me.
You say i vouched for skel, your right, A YEAR AGO. A lot of time has passed since then, and people change. IF it was skel (and without his admission, i still would more find more likely candidates in other places). When does a man become responsible for his own actions? Did i nominate him for manager? Nope. Did i give him access to the hangars? Nope. Hell, i wasn't even in the corp anymore, and hadn't been for some time.
So for all general purpose, putting my name in was a last ditch attempt by Raeyn to get revenge for me having him removed as director of the alliance, which, in all fairness, was absolutely needed as he HADN'T LOGGED IN FOR OVER 2 WEEKS.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:24:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Grath Telkin
actually they tried to link me to it as well, but giving up api access to a neutral party, proved them wrong. AFAIK skel has never admitted to the theft, and its simply guilt by omission here (he wouldn't give up his API key like i did).
He wouldn't cough up the api like you did. And that's not something worthy of you taking note of before jumping on the "prove it wasnt someone else" bandwagon?
your missing the entire point Davlin, i did put a ton of work into making things work in that alliance. I wouldnt even take the free ships they were offering for being the ONLY friggin FC that did anything. So why the hell could they even THINK i had anything to do with the theft?
The mere insinuation disgust me.
You say i vouched for skel, your right, A YEAR AGO. A lot of time has passed since then, and people change. IF it was skel (and without his admission, i still would more find more likely candidates in other places). When does a man become responsible for his own actions? Did i nominate him for manager? Nope. Did i give him access to the hangars? Nope. Hell, i wasn't even in the corp anymore, and hadn't been for some time.
So for all general purpose, putting my name in was a last ditch attempt by Raeyn to get revenge for me having him removed as director of the alliance, which, in all fairness, was absolutely needed as he HADN'T LOGGED IN FOR OVER 2 WEEKS.
Like I said ingame dude.....cntrl Q out for a bit. Go play AOC or something. Decompress. I understand this **** is unnerving.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:41:00 -
[134]
skeletor eh? sad to hear.
how about his close buddy bodacious babe?
while as a ceo of recon i never had anything THAT valuable, maybe 3 billion in the classified directors hangar at one time, i still didnt see the need to give directorship, just to make someone a leader. physical roles are neccessary for leadership.
if I were Lakthaar, whom I regard as my friend, I would disband stk, start a new corp, leaving all the inactives and alts of inactive people behind.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:47:00 -
[135]
Flan in a cuboard.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:59:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver skeletor eh? sad to hear.
how about his close buddy bodacious babe?
while as a ceo of recon i never had anything THAT valuable, maybe 3 billion in the classified directors hangar at one time, i still didnt see the need to give directorship, just to make someone a leader. physical roles are neccessary for leadership.
if I were Lakthaar, whom I regard as my friend, I would disband stk, start a new corp, leaving all the inactives and alts of inactive people behind.
Actually things are fine and looking up imho. Some old ppls are logging on again and some other membership gains are encouraging as well. There are some ruffled feathers around for sure. And some that are hurt. I hope the hurt are able to iron things out tbh.
It could be worse, I mean at least we dont have someone taking a personal titan from a member and refusing to give it back whilst trying to paint the victim as ebay for no other reason than because he happens to have worked hard and got lucky on a few bpo rolls of dice :D Now THAT would be drama.
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Slayton Ford
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:01:00 -
[137]
The reason why I believe Skel was the theif was not because he had the opportunity (he was one of the few people with access and who was actually online when the theft occured), but because of inconsitancies before and after the theft happened. He looses a carrier and whines how he is broke since it wasnt insured shortly before the PS pull out yet he tells others it was fully insured. Additionally, he then has multiple freighters worth of supplies to move to his new home up north. Add in he is a proven theif when a alliance members ratting raven was left at a POS due to hostiles coming, his alt swipes it and shows on the insurance mail. He claims he bought it from someone else yet now records or logs can prove this.
For the record he swiped my Slepnier, Munnin, Falcon, Cheetah, Buzzard, Viator, Jag and Cerb. All rigged, some fitted.
Its one of the hardest things in lift when you find out your friend is a thief who will steal from anyone. I learned that lesson as a kid when a friend of mine broke into my parents house and stole our commodore 64 (and all the games/apps we had). Its embarressing to have to admit to others that you were wrong about this person. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |

Lakhthaar
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:46:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Lakhthaar on 15/06/2008 21:51:29
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Grath Telkin
actually they tried to link me to it as well, but giving up api access to a neutral party, proved them wrong. AFAIK skel has never admitted to the theft, and its simply guilt by omission here (he wouldn't give up his API key like i did).
He wouldn't cough up the api like you did. And that's not something worthy of you taking note of before jumping on the "prove it wasnt someone else" bandwagon?
your missing the entire point Davlin, i did put a ton of work into making things work in that alliance. I wouldnt even take the free ships they were offering for being the ONLY friggin FC that did anything. So why the hell could they even THINK i had anything to do with the theft?
The mere insinuation disgust me.
You say i vouched for skel, your right, A YEAR AGO. A lot of time has passed since then, and people change. IF it was skel (and without his admission, i still would more find more likely candidates in other places). When does a man become responsible for his own actions? Did i nominate him for manager? Nope. Did i give him access to the hangars? Nope. Hell, i wasn't even in the corp anymore, and hadn't been for some time.
So for all general purpose, putting my name in was a last ditch attempt by Raeyn to get revenge for me having him removed as director of the alliance, which, in all fairness, was absolutely needed as he HADN'T LOGGED IN FOR OVER 2 WEEKS.
Grath, you were never accused of being involved. This isn't revenge for your behavior as you left STK. You knew Skelator was our man. You suggest that we look elsewhere? I suggest you keep better company.
And yes, you did do quite a bit for STK and Black-Out. I could pull quotes from our forums where I acknowledge and thank you for that. But, when you left our final memory of Grath is one of disappointment and irrational emo rage.
Oh, and by the way, if you could spare us the comments regarding "physical violence" that would be great. Mmmkay?
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Grath Telkin
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:51:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Lakhthaar
Oh, and by the way, if you could spare us the comments regarding "physical violence" that would be great. Mmmkay?
Start telling the truth, that would be an awesome way to get me calmed down. Your continuing lies and attempts to put "spin" on STK's asshattery is just making matters worse.
No, I wouldnt waste my time on you, but as I'm already wasting tons of time on this game, I can, and plan, to do as much damage to STK in payback as I am physically able.
Seems wherever this corp goes, it makes enemies out of members, guess its my fault for not seeing this as it was happening while i was there.
You would think, that after all these times, in all these years, just once, STK would set its eyes on itself as part of the problem, but again, it just sets about blaming anyone and everyone who has ever helped out in the alliance, while keeping Kadka and Kalkin safe within.
Good strategy, tell me how that works out...oh, crap, nvm, we see how it worked out.
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Lakhthaar
STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.15 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Lakhthaar
Oh, and by the way, if you could spare us the comments regarding "physical violence" that would be great. Mmmkay?
Start telling the truth, that would be an awesome way to get me calmed down. Your continuing lies and attempts to put "spin" on STK's asshattery is just making matters worse.
No, I wouldnt waste my time on you, but as I'm already wasting tons of time on this game, I can, and plan, to do as much damage to STK in payback as I am physically able.
Seems wherever this corp goes, it makes enemies out of members, guess its my fault for not seeing this as it was happening while i was there.
You would think, that after all these times, in all these years, just once, STK would set its eyes on itself as part of the problem, but again, it just sets about blaming anyone and everyone who has ever helped out in the alliance, while keeping Kadka and Kalkin safe within.
Good strategy, tell me how that works out...oh, crap, nvm, we see how it worked out.
The truth about what? I have shared the chat logs with our members as many have a lot of respect for you. They are the same ones that CEI has. In no way do I accuse you of being involved. I was asked if you were involved with Skelator, I answered that you two were very good friends. That is the truth.
In all these years? All the thieves of our past have been identified. Are you suggesting that perhaps Kalkin and Kadka are really Starwolf and he ripped us off again? Or, maybe Helen is Kadka and Kalkin all at the same time, and Helen ripped us off again?
Again, you were not accused of corp theft.
All this emo outrage is a good example of why I have stated that I do not trust you, or your judgment. That is different than accusing your of corp theft.
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RageWreaker
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Posted - 2008.06.15 22:22:00 -
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lol STK. I hope you go down in flames tbh 
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section 21
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:24:00 -
[142]
I grabbed some t1 ammo out of qstore before I left.... I felt bad about it.
I feel better now...
so can we let it go finally?
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Grath Telkin
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.16 00:46:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Lakhthaar
All this emo outrage is a good example of why I have stated that I do not trust you, or your judgment. That is different than accusing your of corp theft.
Trusted me enough to run your fleets though didnt you, and i see what happened when i stopped. Guess my judgment was good enough then.
In any case, witch hunts like this, and the attitude of the bothers K, are just a few of the reasons that it feels good to be out of that drama hut.
Anybody else might start looking around, to see why so many of the STK guys have pulled out, but no you Lak, good ol' "Head in the Sand" Lak, just keep on chugging.
btw, care to share those chat logs with me, since you obviously have them at hand?
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Samantha De'Brault
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Posted - 2008.06.16 01:50:00 -
[144]
hi grath <3
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Grath Telkin
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:08:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Samantha De'Brault hi grath <3
lo
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Charly Quickfire
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:24:00 -
[146]
Sorry to see STK (or any other corp) being robbed like that. EVE truely sucks in that department (in regards to finding out and delivering cosequences).
o/ Grath That FW thing playing out for you? Hope lots of pew pew and noobs you can guide to Leeeroy :) |

Grath Telkin
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:41:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 16/06/2008 02:41:52
Originally by: Charly Quickfire Sorry to see STK (or any other corp) being robbed like that. EVE truely sucks in that department (in regards to finding out and delivering cosequences).
o/ Grath That FW thing playing out for you? Hope lots of pew pew and noobs you can guide to Leeeroy :)
actually its hella fun, running fight for about an hour tonight. I wish 0.0 guys would engage with the careless throwaway attitude these guys are all fighting with.
I saw one minnie pilot loose 3 vagas in the same fight. These kinds of things only happen in the "all or nothing" sieges where sov is concerned in 0.0.
EDIT: i still think the amarr lost the fight, but all in all, 10/10, would fight again.
End of the battle counted 90 minnie wrecks on a single gate.
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Apophis Omega
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:05:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 16/06/2008 02:41:52
Originally by: Charly Quickfire Sorry to see STK (or any other corp) being robbed like that. EVE truely sucks in that department (in regards to finding out and delivering cosequences).
o/ Grath That FW thing playing out for you? Hope lots of pew pew and noobs you can guide to Leeeroy :)
actually its hella fun, running fight for about an hour tonight. I wish 0.0 guys would engage with the careless throwaway attitude these guys are all fighting with.
I saw one minnie pilot loose 3 vagas in the same fight. These kinds of things only happen in the "all or nothing" sieges where sov is concerned in 0.0.
EDIT: i still think the amarr lost the fight, but all in all, 10/10, would fight again.
End of the battle counted 90 minnie wrecks on a single gate.
Death to minmatar, rise to amarr, nuff said.
GL grath, I been thinking about trying that faction thing out, it looks like allot of fun. So its like all small scale pvp and such? The good old fashion way before blobs and caps? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:05:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 16/06/2008 03:06:16 i agree with you there grath, for my part, ( i made the gallente news) with a a 25 vs 50 + battle.
i told em we're fighting and we're gonna die and so what...fun pvp.
yeh its disorganzied inexperienced, casual non elitist players, but they can show you what its like to have fun in eve again, and remind you of the newbie times when you first joined. instead of the cynical and mean elitist 0.0 players. that i myself had become.
to answer you apophis, yes it is. but you have to check any elitist attitude you might have at the door.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Grath Telkin
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:31:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Apophis Omega
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 16/06/2008 03:06:16 i agree with you there grath, for my part, ( i made the gallente news) with a a 25 vs 50 + battle.
i told em we're fighting and we're gonna die and so what...fun pvp.
yeh its disorganzied inexperienced, casual non elitist players, but they can show you what its like to have fun in eve again, and remind you of the newbie times when you first joined. instead of the cynical and mean elitist 0.0 players. that i myself had become.
to answer you apophis, yes it is. but you have to check any elitist attitude you might have at the door.
Cool, can I keep the elitist wallet? I wanna be one of those idiots who keep coming back again and again.....
yea, definitely, although, don't get your hopes up about the blobs, there are tons of these guys itching to fight.
The most important part is: You remember all those times you sat at a POS with blueballs cause your FC wouldn't engage that 100 man fleet? Yea, that crap is all left at the door here, we jumped (happily) into 90 guys with a fleet of 60, balls to the wall.
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Apophis Omega
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:49:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Apophis Omega
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 16/06/2008 03:06:16 i agree with you there grath, for my part, ( i made the gallente news) with a a 25 vs 50 + battle.
i told em we're fighting and we're gonna die and so what...fun pvp.
yeh its disorganzied inexperienced, casual non elitist players, but they can show you what its like to have fun in eve again, and remind you of the newbie times when you first joined. instead of the cynical and mean elitist 0.0 players. that i myself had become.
to answer you apophis, yes it is. but you have to check any elitist attitude you might have at the door.
Cool, can I keep the elitist wallet? I wanna be one of those idiots who keep coming back again and again.....
yea, definitely, although, don't get your hopes up about the blobs, there are tons of these guys itching to fight.
The most important part is: You remember all those times you sat at a POS with blueballs cause your FC wouldn't engage that 100 man fleet? Yea, that crap is all left at the door here, we jumped (happily) into 90 guys with a fleet of 60, balls to the wall.
Wow. IDC about blobs if they fight instead of crowding POSes.
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Trente Reznor
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:59:00 -
[152]
o/ to all my old STK mates.
Really sorry to hear what happened to you guys. -- SCREAM, INC. IS RECRUITING (CLICK ME)
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.16 07:10:00 -
[153]
ehhe... i have the elitist wallet, well earned :P
would you like a pilot that can fly gallente and amarr hacs, t2 fitted battleships.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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catherda
Black Scorpion Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:43:00 -
[154]
Hi aaron, Grath your the best, STK good luck in whatever you doing and sorry about the theft. I haven't always agreed with things they were in Blackout but thing were fun while it lasted.

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BiggestT
Fun Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.27 06:18:00 -
[155]
WTF is all this asshattery still going on about this theft? I thought hunter was the thief coz many a contract was assigned (and lost) to him. But anyway who cares, it was a theft, it cost a lot of ppl isk. Deal with it. Shut it with the emo rage grath, ur getting to pumped up about this. I mean look, u lsot some sh*t but look at it another way, i have like a few t2 cruisers and bs's and 150 mill in the bank. Am i b*tching about how im gonna leave the game from not having anything? (i used to have twice as many ships and half a bill, but who really cares).
If u have less than me u may have an excuse to whine, if u dont, then stop whining. Grow up.
But high to stk, hope u guys are well ;)
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Squably
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:30:00 -
[156]
Have fun in empire. Ask the goonbags ur isks back
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.27 15:16:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
yea, definitely, although, don't get your hopes up about the blobs, there are tons of these guys itching to fight.
The most important part is: You remember all those times you sat at a POS with blueballs cause your FC wouldn't engage that 100 man fleet? Yea, that crap is all left at the door here, we jumped (happily) into 90 guys with a fleet of 60, balls to the wall.[/quote
And this is different from your normal 0.0 methods?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.06.27 15:48:00 -
[158]
Originally by: BiggestT WTF is all this asshattery still going on about this theft? I thought hunter was the thief coz many a contract was assigned (and lost) to him. But anyway who cares, it was a theft, it cost a lot of ppl isk. Deal with it. Shut it with the emo rage grath, ur getting to pumped up about this. I mean look, u lsot some sh*t but look at it another way, i have like a few t2 cruisers and bs's and 150 mill in the bank. Am i b*tching about how im gonna leave the game from not having anything? (i used to have twice as many ships and half a bill, but who really cares).
If u have less than me u may have an excuse to whine, if u dont, then stop whining. Grow up.
But high to stk, hope u guys are well ;)
Ok, ill bite since you dug this sucker up.
What the hell are you talking about?
I'm getting the impression that you went and made a wild random forum post about something you have absolutely no clue about...imagine that...on COAD...
Also, the English language called, its suing you for what you just did to it.
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