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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.30 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton just make sure you do all your antipirate work in Ihakana, and connecting lowsec
You know what, I was there to start the piracy years ago.
Ihakana -> Friggi gate... oh that was good times. I may have to swing by. :)
i like the otomainen gate personally gist x-type ravens like to jump out of there 
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 07:44:00 -
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Are there still people shooting Outlaw bandits at that one station and getting killed by pirates?
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XrayZ
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.30 08:36:00 -
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and ur posting this useless thing cuz...? --------------------------------------
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.05.30 10:13:00 -
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First, may I say that's a *very* nice ship you have there.
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Structure on a Domi: 8301
8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6
That's not how it works.
It's 8301 / (1-0.6) = 20752.5
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
First, may I say that's a *very* nice ship you have there.
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Structure on a Domi: 8301
8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6
That's not how it works.
It's 8301 / (1-0.6) = 20752.5
Oh yeah, I remembered it was a little more than that. Okay yeah, thank you for reminding me.
So let's double the time, about a minute.
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Dr Clay
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Posted - 2008.05.30 10:26:00 -
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Just use it on the test server and never lose it?
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.05.30 10:30:00 -
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Where are you?
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide.
Please don't write a drone guide until you know just how effective Ogre IIs are against a Crow (or anything else that does more than 1km/s, for that matter).
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide.
Please don't write a drone guide until you know just how effective Ogre IIs are against a Crow (or anything else that does more than 1km/s, for that matter).
Hi. Read the part about the Warriors.
Please don't post more until you learn how to read. Thanks.
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Please don't post more until you learn how to read. Thanks.
... but it's so tiring to read, I'd rather mindlessly bash people for something they didn't really write!
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NoNah
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide.
I'm sorry, but I enjoyed your thread up until this. That's just not acceptable, self-proclaimed and in my own humble opinion, untrue. Parrots, commence!
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Cerundis
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide.
I'm sorry, but I enjoyed your thread up until this. That's just not acceptable, self-proclaimed and in my own humble opinion, untrue.
This.
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Gamesguy
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:35:00 -
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This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat.
I wouldn't believe anything he says.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat.
I wouldn't believe anything he says.
Lulz. Anyone surprised?
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat.
I wouldn't believe anything he says.
Wow, name calling someone you don't know!
Let's go over some facts:
1: I have flown (and lost, to the forum's proof) a very expensive Navy Comet.
2: There has been a video posted of me in the forums somewhere ratting in my Moros.
3: I use my Moros to blow up people at gates, often getting hysterical reactions.
4: I posted this thread to share my excitement about my newest ship, and you don't know whether or not it exists. So posting that it absolutely does not and to not believe me speaks ill of your credibility.
5: Yes, I love drones very much. Whether I am "the" foremost authority or not, I have a lot of wisdom in this area. I can't fly a ship without a dronebay... it feels strange. Anyway drones are the first thing I look at when I fit a ship, and the last thing I see before I undock.
6: I enjoy crazy ships :D They give me a rush :)
Any questions? :P
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Any questions? :P
Yes.
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Enden Assulu
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.05.30 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Whips out e-peen
Why would you fly this ship? I think more fun could be had setting fire to your ISK.
* * * M3h Skillz
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Keitaro Baka on 30/05/2008 15:22:37 hmm
Originally I wanted to just post 'hmm' but I guess I'll go into it some more. I'd love to help you test this ship on SiSi, especially the drones.
I'd prolly first use a ceptor to make you drop your warriors. Then warp out and giggle about how you're unable to retrieve them (I have trouble retrieving warrior II's with my domi without nav computer, because they just fly too fast, orbit me and don't return to bay as normal, yours should be fun).
In general the setup is ok-ish. The modules themselves are excellent, this combination lacks a damage control, and here's why I feel it does:
Your setup uses an almost pure armour tank. Yet you forgo a slave omega in favour of a grid implant. Means less armour buffer. You needs an Anc Current router rig II, which again is a hit on the tank. You also have a single (heavy) cap injector. This will make you have a gap in which you drop through your cap, and probably into hull. A few decent hull hits for a few seconds and all your armour modules and rigs are useless. One damage control seriously relievs your ship here. Also where is Akemon's Modified 'Noble' ZET5000, the 'Noble' ZET4000, ZET3000 and Shaqil's Speed Enhancer (might aswell go all the way, next to a *full* Slave set)?
Personally I tend to dual inject my dual rep tank, with 2 medium injectors + 800s. And carry a damage control. But that's just me. Drone nav cpu's I actually never use. I use tech II sentries + heavy neuts to kill pesky fast ships. Faster warriors for me means even harder to control drones, which can really get pulled out far. Also, to shoot, drones drop out of mwd and then they will not go fast enough to catch those ships anyways and will need to re-enter mwd again. I dunno..
The augmented drones do look the part, would have been nice if they needed the spec skills and would also get dmg from those, but meh. I don't have any nor know people who do so I haven't been able to test. Dunno about the hp either, would be a shame to have them SB-ed to frell.
As for writing a drone guide: you can check mine for a general set up, I won't mind someone taking over at all :P
Typ0s and grammer
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Povelitels
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:40:00 -
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Quote:
Let's see.. kinetic works better against armor than it does against shields. Thermal works better against shields than it does armor.
Is this global for all races or just the ships you fly ?
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Kusha'an
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat.
I wouldn't believe anything he says.
Wow, name calling someone you don't know!
Let's go over some facts:
1: I have flown (and lost, to the forum's proof) a very expensive Navy Comet.
2: There has been a video posted of me in the forums somewhere ratting in my Moros.
3: I use my Moros to blow up people at gates, often getting hysterical reactions.
4: I posted this thread to share my excitement about my newest ship, and you don't know whether or not it exists. So posting that it absolutely does not and to not believe me speaks ill of your credibility.
5: Yes, I love drones very much. Whether I am "the" foremost authority or not, I have a lot of wisdom in this area. I can't fly a ship without a dronebay... it feels strange. Anyway drones are the first thing I look at when I fit a ship, and the last thing I see before I undock.
6: I enjoy crazy ships :D They give me a rush :)
Any questions? :P
Clearly you have committed a cardinal sin by learning to have fun with the game in your own way. The fun police have arrived and are determined to make sure that this never happens again. Please spend the rest of your Eve playing days in total anguish over what they have said, for their words are gospel and should be heeded.
/sarc
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TimMc
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:06:00 -
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I think you would lose it the second you entered low sec or 0.0.
A ship like that is ment to solo pwn entire carebear corporations in empire wars. Become a legend when they all ***** on EveO.
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Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
'Augmented' Hammerhead x5 'Augmented' Ogre x5 'Augmented' Berserker x5 'Augmented' Warrior x5
Impressive. Not usefull but very impressive. Gz.
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Elise Randolph
Slacker Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 02:49:58 'Augmented' Warrior Top Speed: 8662.5m/s Tracking: 3.24rad/s EHP: 1500
Yeah, Crows are gonna freak out when they see this nightmare after them.
Sorry to break the news, but a Raptor, Ares, Malediction, and Stiletto can keep you tackled outside your neut range, and outrun your drones. But man, your ship sure will scare (but not kill) Crows. Congrats, I suppose. But I do have one piece of advice for you: people who post expensive ship setups that they will likely never fly on the e-o forums come off as pathetic glory seeking attention *****s. Now, I'm not saying that you are, but I am saying that you appear that way. ---------- I need a good sig, someone make one for me. |

Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:04:00 -
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Oh look, another idiotically built ship you funded by scamming your sheep of corp members that are too stupid to realize what's happening.
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 19:19:20
Originally by: Keitaro Baka Edited by: Keitaro Baka on 30/05/2008 15:22:37 hmm
Originally I wanted to just post 'hmm' but I guess I'll go into it some more. I'd love to help you test this ship on SiSi, especially the drones.
I'd prolly first use a ceptor to make you drop your warriors. Then warp out and giggle about how you're unable to retrieve them (I have trouble retrieving warrior II's with my domi without nav computer, because they just fly too fast, orbit me and don't return to bay as normal, yours should be fun).
In general the setup is ok-ish. The modules themselves are excellent, this combination lacks a damage control, and here's why I feel it does:
Your setup uses an almost pure armour tank. Yet you forgo a slave omega in favour of a grid implant. Means less armour buffer. You needs an Anc Current router rig II, which again is a hit on the tank. You also have a single (heavy) cap injector. This will make you have a gap in which you drop through your cap, and probably into hull. A few decent hull hits for a few seconds and all your armour modules and rigs are useless. One damage control seriously relievs your ship here. Also where is Akemon's Modified 'Noble' ZET5000, the 'Noble' ZET4000, ZET3000 and Shaqil's Speed Enhancer (might aswell go all the way, next to a *full* Slave set)?
Personally I tend to dual inject my dual rep tank, with 2 medium injectors + 800s. And carry a damage control. But that's just me. Drone nav cpu's I actually never use. I use tech II sentries + heavy neuts to kill pesky fast ships. Faster warriors for me means even harder to control drones, which can really get pulled out far. Also, to shoot, drones drop out of mwd and then they will not go fast enough to catch those ships anyways and will need to re-enter mwd again. I dunno..
The augmented drones do look the part, would have been nice if they needed the spec skills and would also get dmg from those, but meh. I don't have any nor know people who do so I haven't been able to test. Dunno about the hp either, would be a shame to have them SB-ed to frell.
As for writing a drone guide: you can check mine for a general set up, I won't mind someone taking over at all :P
Typ0s and grammer
Wow. Thanks, really.
You know the first thing I said when I finished putting this ship together was "the tank!" I could have gotten an additional 300 DPS per second without an ACR, but then the fit would have been gimped by functionality and not tank.
I mean there comes a point when you have to say what you want the ship to do. Be an amazing tank or be amazing at something else, lol. Originally the setup did have a damage control, but I noticed (in eve, not eft) the resistances were lower. So that caused me to do some thinking about whether or not if I had an armor tank, should I put more resistances into the armor? I mean my thinking is it makes the armor reps work a lot less. Sadly the marginal boost that I get from having two eanms versus one eanm and a damage control was based on a calculation that I accidentally miscalculated, so yeah I think I will probably be fitting a damage control now.
The logic is sound but the feasibility states otherwise, and that's where it sucks.
Originally by: Elise Randolph Sorry to break the news, but a Raptor, Ares, Malediction, and Stiletto can keep you tackled outside your neut range, and outrun your drones. But man, your ship sure will scare (but not kill) Crows. Congrats, I suppose. But I do have one piece of advice for you: people who post expensive ship setups that they will likely never fly on the e-o forums come off as pathetic glory seeking attention *****s. Now, I'm not saying that you are, but I am saying that you appear that way.
You mistake my enthusiasm for attention whoring. I get this way about everything.
Also, Viper, if you would have read the first sentence, I've had this ship for a long time. I'm just now putting the highslots together.
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arbalesttom
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: arbalesttom on 30/05/2008 19:33:43 I know where Siigari lives, convo me and i might tell it to you for the price of 100million isk ***Sig***
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Mo adib
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:26:00 -
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drone regions may be a little chaotic right now but there is no way those bpcs are worth anything close to that, u should be able to easily find someone that can get these for you for cheaper then that. If you cant hit me up ingame and ill go get these damn things for u cause I would love to overcharge you by that much for what is a non impressive drone.
additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill.
so you have all these flashy split dmg types that are kinda meh for 500 mil a bpc.....
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill.
Augmented drones get the damage bonus as well. They require you have the specialization skill trained in order to use them.
They have the tech 2 sticker, plus that requirement.
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.05.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Mo adib additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill.
Augmented drones get the damage bonus as well. They require you have the specialization skill trained in order to use them.
They have the tech 2 sticker, plus that requirement.
Ah yes they did change that :) augmented = tech II faction variant, yeah those are quite a bit better than tech II's including hp's.
Yeah I want me some of those.. but not at those prices :P
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Keitaro Baka Ah yes they did change that :) augmented = tech II faction variant, yeah those are quite a bit better than tech II's including hp's.
More HP's yes, much better no.
Only one I think is better is the augmented ogres IF you're shooting guristas rats and that's about it 
On the subject, that's a big big waste of time and isk but whatever makes you tick  Boink! |
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