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Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:26:00 - [1] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 02:38:51 Okay so I've had this Domi collecting dust for a long time. I always tell everyone "Yeah I have this awesome x-type Domi" and never, ever use it. Why? Because it's a liability. Yeah, I know me saying an expensive ship is a liability has you all in stitches by now but the fact is I didn't want to lose it... and something about it just didn't feel finished. Where does the finishing touch come in? My new Augmented drones, of course! I have recently made contact with an awesome person who is finding these with great luck and I have set up a purchase plan with him to make the most out of my new little dronesies :D Anyway, after a few tweaks and suggestions from my friends, I reveal: The New and Improved Augmented X-Type Dominix [Dominix, Augmented X-Type Domi] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Drone Navigation Computer I Core X-Type 100mn MicroWarpdrive Dark Blood Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Domination Stasis Webifier Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor Brokara's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Heavy Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Ancillary Current Router II Auxiliary Nano Pump II Auxiliary Nano Pump I 'Augmented' Hammerhead x5 'Augmented' Ogre x5 'Augmented' Berserker x5 'Augmented' Warrior x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Slave Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Squire' PG8 640/750 CPU 13,508.00/13,584.38 Grid 1166m/s Top Speed 10,388 armor 75,983 EHP Cost: Who cares So this looks nuts, I'm imagining half of you are putting your eyes back in your sockets. Allow me to share my ship with you. Core X-Types along with the active tanking lows delivers an overwhelming 1534 rep per cycle. Which is pretty kickin' rad :) The fact that I can active tank that much means I can keep a solid tank going long enough to do any multitude of things... kill my target, call for backup, or get to the gate and gtfo. Fact is I'm not probably going to barge into 0.0 with this due to the risk of losing it that much faster. So think lowsec. Anyway, originally I didn't have the 30km neuts so I used a Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor to match the neut range. Then my friend INSISTED that Crows can orbit Dominixes at 30km and keep me tackled. Though the chance is extremely remote, I decided to heed his advice and fit a Brokara and Dark Blood heavy neut to swat ceptors, and then pushed the rest of the neuts up to faction as well. May as well keep things inline. But yeah, I would have liked to fit a larger neut but this thing is so tight on grid it's practically screaming. The Nos keeps me happy when I get in range to suck on things, and with a high refire time on the Dark Blood injector I can keep cap happy for all purposes forever with only one rep running and the mwd off. But sometimes the MWD has to be on. So tackling at 30km is lol, I can overload the disruptor if I need to and it will stretch to 31km, which is sufficient. The Domination web keeps others in line, and the microwarpdrive allows me to overcome the ill effects of my armor rigs. But, where does this ship shine? THE DRONES!! <33 Let's check out the fierceness of these little monsters: 'Augmented' Warrior Top Speed: 8662.5m/s Tracking: 3.24rad/s EHP: 1500 Yeah, Crows are gonna freak out when they see this nightmare after them. 'Augmented' Ogre Damage mod: 7.92x Rack DPS: 475 EHP: 8602 lol 'Augmented' Berserker Top Speed: 2165.6m/s Damage mod: 6.44x Rack DPS: 386 EHP: 4438 Armor tanks fear Berserker IIs, and this step up makes them fast. 'Augmented' Hammerhead Top Speed: 2887.5m/s Damage mod: 7.92x Rack DPS: 238 EHP: 4652 A modest and quick drone, rawr
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:28:00 - [2] And then of course we have the Vespa EC-600, which are just for general run situations. Anyway, this setup makes me wish the Gallente Navy Dominix that was mentioned back during the Gallente Presidential Election existed... because so many people I'm afraid are going to tell me "what a waste!" But I work with what I have, and this is the result. See you in space and fly safe o/ www.siigarikitawa.com
Nitakko The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:31:00 - [3] Edited by: Nitakko on 30/05/2008 02:32:55 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Yeah, Crows are gonna freak out when they see this nightmare after them. El oh el.
King Blith	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:41:00 - [4] Sounds like a low sec nightmare!
girlyminer	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:50:00 - [5] Don't get me wrong, your setup is expensive and super sick however taking this to a gate in low-sec remains as a terrible terrible idea. You aggress target, gate guns aggress you, your deploy drones, gate guns cycle to drones and BAM. :-( Unless I'm missing something about the plan you may love to try a Megathron.
NeoNeTiC Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:50:00 - [6] Sorry to say this Siig, but this fit is a pure waste of ISK. EFT made people create setups with insane stats but most of them are useless. It's not about having insane stats but about making the most out of the least investment. (In my opinion atleast) You could buy a carrier complete with fit and fighters for the price of this domi and lets be honest: It's killable by a Curse and Arazu/Huginn - or even less. Even a Minnie-HAC/BC stands a good chance vs you because you will run out of cap-charges some time and popping drones is not a challenge. :< Well, enjoy flying it while it lasts, NeoNeTiC [MORTS]-EFT-Warriors ._.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 02:57:00 - [7] Originally by: girlyminer Don't get me wrong, your setup is expensive and super sick however taking this to a gate in low-sec remains as a terrible terrible idea. You aggress target, gate guns aggress you, your deploy drones, gate guns cycle to drones and BAM. :-( Unless I'm missing something about the plan you may love to try a Megathron. Oh, nononononono. Yes, I'm expecting some fights in lowsec at gates proper, but the possibilities of getting people to engage me happens from time to time. I mean, what happens if I'm in a belt and a crow warps to me. Crow is stupid to engage a domi so they have to bring in a bigger tackler. Once that happens you have a fight. I mean there's lots of issues with the facts of lowsec. It can be flown anywhere, but I -likely- will not fly it into 0.0 unless I need a rush that possess the chance of putting me in the hospital. Yeah. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes. I've always had excellent drone control skills, and I usually don't like to pop drones at a gate unless I'm right next to them or in scoop range. So there's possibilities there. But yeah, finding the right target is what this ship is about. Not every person is a target when you're working with special equipment. Also, I have tried Megathrons and I like them a lot, but I have lackluster gunnery skills. Actually, the whole idea that reinvented this ship was me flying around in a neutron Brutix with my Augmented Hammerheads and I realized it! AUGMENTED X-TYPE DOMI! It's what my Dominix has been needing to get that uber edge. And for that I am happy :) Thanks for not slamming me with a horrible flame, I always appreciate constructive comments. www.siigarikitawa.com
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:05:00 - [8] Please tell me where this domi is, where you would pilot it, and who I could possibly contact after a war-dec of your corp for a ransom. Hmm. How much do those drones cost again? Oh WAIT! Pulls out Ogre II's Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Please tell me where this domi is, where you would pilot it, and who I could possibly contact after a war-dec of your corp for a ransom. You can contact me, the CEO. www.siigarikitawa.com
Nitakko The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Please tell me where this domi is, where you would pilot it, and who I could possibly contact after a war-dec of your corp for a ransom. Hmm. How much do those drones cost again? Oh WAIT! Pulls out Ogre II's The Domi is in Jita, and he only pilots it on Sunday afternoons. You should look for him there and then
Ecky X Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:22:00 - [11] May I recommend fitting 1 large smartbomb?
arbalesttom Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:26:00 - [12] <3 *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:29:00 - [13] You people are funny. How much do those drones cost? And also, in T2 Hull Amarr Space, berserker II's fear YOU! Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 03:38:00 - [14] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 03:39:05 Originally by: Atomos Darksun You people are funny. How much do those drones cost? And also, in T2 Hull Amarr Space, berserker II's fear YOU! I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide. All light drone BPCs: 100 mil All medium drone BPCs: 150 mil All heavy drone BPCs: 200 mil Augmented Ogre BPC: 500 mil (the first one only) So yeah. That's what I pay with my contact. www.siigarikitawa.com
Maverick 52 Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.05.30 04:09:00 - [15] Its too bad the named drones really aren't any better than regular ones.
Falcon Troy Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:02:00 - [16] You DO realize that Tech II drones outshine your named ones in almost every way...right? _____________ Hai.
Little Matt New Fnord Industries Black Scope Project	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:07:00 - [17] Edited by: Little Matt on 30/05/2008 05:07:52 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Cost: Who cares coughiskbuyercough
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Falcon Troy Edited by: Falcon Troy on 30/05/2008 05:07:46 You DO realize that Tech II drones outshine your named ones in almost every way...right? I'm also wondering why with such a ridiculously expensive ship, you wouldn't slap a DCUII on there. Haha. Hey everyone, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! /sarcasm Also, just barely got your edit, but there's no DCU on here because I'm armor tanking. That means I am repping through resistances, not structure. The more effective armor I have, the easier it is to repair it. My rep doesn't have to work as hard if my resistances are higher. OKAY SO Let's laugh at the sillyface. I'm putting a red dot next to things that you think are crappier (just so you can tell me I'm wrong). www.siigarikitawa.com
Aadi Grox Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Let's laugh at the sillyface. I'm putting a red dot next to things that you think are crappier (just so you can tell me I'm wrong). Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Augmented Ogre BPC: 500 mil
Falcon Troy Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:24:00 - [20] Edited by: Falcon Troy on 30/05/2008 05:25:55 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Falcon Troy Edited by: Falcon Troy on 30/05/2008 05:07:46 You DO realize that Tech II drones outshine your named ones in almost every way...right? I'm also wondering why with such a ridiculously expensive ship, you wouldn't slap a DCUII on there. Haha. Hey everyone, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! /sarcasm Also, just barely got your edit, but there's no DCU on here because I'm armor tanking. That means I am repping through resistances, not structure. The more effective armor I have, the easier it is to repair it. My rep doesn't have to work as hard if my resistances are higher. OKAY SO Let's laugh at the sillyface. I'm putting a red dot next to things that you think are crappier (just so you can tell me I'm wrong). Really? Are you really armor tanking? Had no idea. Cut the crap, the Dominix has more Structure HP than Armor so putting a DCUII on there just adds to your effective HP. At least when you are going down flaming the 60% resistances across the board will save your ass as you try and bug out or call for help while without it you are dead, no questions asked. And on the drones, the split damage is what handicaps them. _____________ Hai.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:30:00 - [21] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 05:34:53 Originally by: Falcon Troy Really? Are you really armor tanking? Had no idea. Cut the crap, the Dominix has more Structure HP than Armor so putting a DCUII on there just adds to your effective HP. At least when you are going down flaming the 60% resistances across the board will save your ass as you try and bug out or call for help while without it you are dead, no questions asked. And on the drones, the split damage is what handicaps them. Way to pyramid quote. And yes, I am serious. When you rep THIS MUCH .. grr, look. 1534 DPS tank with 2 EANMs 1404 DPS tank with 1 EANM and a DC II So I can tank actively 130 more dps with the EANM. Math time! 130 HP x 38 seconds = 4940 HP ***** Structure on a Domi: 8301 8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6 13281.6 (EHP) - 8301 (Domi Structure) = 4980.6 (Resisted HP) ***** I can tank better. So that means in 38 seconds I am doing better than I would with a damage control. I think I know what I'm talking about. Just saw your edit: lol, I seriously want to scream at you. First you say "in almost every way" now you just say it's the damage types. Let's see.. kinetic works better against armor than it does against shields. Thermal works better against shields than it does armor. So not only am I getting flexibility by getting to do two damage types with one rack of drones, but they are getting the HUMONGOUS damage modifier of an Ogre with Kinetic AND Thermal damage. On the Berserker, it's even better! They kick armor's ass and do a pretty good job against shields too. So please do me a favor and do some research before posting. www.siigarikitawa.com
Falcon Troy Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:32:00 - [22] Edited by: Falcon Troy on 30/05/2008 05:33:51 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Falcon Troy Really? Are you really armor tanking? Had no idea. Cut the crap, the Dominix has more Structure HP than Armor so putting a DCUII on there just adds to your effective HP. At least when you are going down flaming the 60% resistances across the board will save your ass as you try and bug out or call for help while without it you are dead, no questions asked. Way to pyramid quote. And yes, I am serious. When you rep THIS MUCH .. grr, look. 1534 DPS tank with 2 EANMs 1404 DPS tank with 1 EANM and a DC II So I can tank actively 130 more dps with the EANM. Math time! 130 HP x 38 seconds = 4940 HP ***** Structure on a Domi: 8301 8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6 13281.6 (EHP) - 8301 (Domi Structure) = 4980.6 (Resisted HP) ***** I can tank better. So that means in 38 seconds I am doing better than I would with a damage control. I think I know what I'm talking about. Quoting two posts isn't pyramid quoting. I don't think you understand the concept or method of the Damage Control module. When your ship pops I hope the person posts the KM here so we can all have a good laugh. _____________ Hai.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 05:44:00 - [23] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 05:45:17 Originally by: Falcon Troy Quoting two posts isn't pyramid quoting. I don't think you understand the concept or method of the Damage Control module. When your ship pops I hope the person posts the KM here so we can all have a good laugh. I do understand the concept of the damage control. It is to save your ass. But listen, if I am able to rep more armor than the damage control can offer, I am ahead of the game in terms of survival for every rep that I make after 38 seconds of repping (or about 5 reps). So... I think it is you who needs to open their mind and read what I posted again. After you read it, tell me if having that 5000 extra HP from the damage control is going to matter if I can "make" more HP with an armor rep. Okay? www.siigarikitawa.com
NeoNeTiC Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:04:00 - [24] Dunno what you two are arguing about but it just depends on the situation: If they out-DPS your tank but you manage to maintain your cap then you're better off with the EANM once you rep for 40 seconds, which sounds doable unless you jump into a big fleet. If your cap folds since they neut the ** out of you then you're better off with the DCU II (unless you're not in jumprange on a gate, waiting for the aggro-timer to run out. You're **** then anyways.). Some people believe they might get neuted to hell, some believe in pure active-tanking. Nothing new, just a question of luck wether the situation suits your fit or not. :\| Now get back to mocking the general usefulness of the setup instead of nitpicking about the old "DCU or not"-issue. Enjoy failing discussions, NeoNeTiC [MORTS]-DCU-friend
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:05:00 - [25] Same question as the mothership setup, What happens when they suck your cap dry? Or is this a fleet/gang ship? Anyways hope you have fun, because that's the only reason I play is to have fun Originally by: Radcjk PvP in eve can be sort of rough. It's closer to bad sex. Usually an hour of two of foreplay followed by 5 minutes of disappointment. And the surprise at the end.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Bloody Rabbit Same question as the mothership setup, What happens when they suck your cap dry? Or is this a fleet/gang ship? Anyways hope you have fun, because that's the only reason I play is to have fun If they suck my cap dry and there's no hope I intend on saluting in local and saying enjoy the loot I play for fun too :) www.siigarikitawa.com
Sani Ka THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:15:00 - [27] carebear is phailbear c/d?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:27:00 - [28] just make sure you do all your antipirate work in Ihakana, and connecting lowsec
Niffetin Omni Research	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:37:00 - [29] Atleast use Gist A/X-Type MWD if you want to try the "ego" thing on forums. Domination Warp Disruptor is a good start too. And Officer Cap Booster wouldnt hurt. - Teeheee! mematar's Video Archive
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:37:00 - [30] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton just make sure you do all your antipirate work in Ihakana, and connecting lowsec You know what, I was there to start the piracy years ago. Ihakana -> Friggi gate... oh that was good times. I may have to swing by. :) www.siigarikitawa.com
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.30 07:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton just make sure you do all your antipirate work in Ihakana, and connecting lowsec You know what, I was there to start the piracy years ago. Ihakana -> Friggi gate... oh that was good times. I may have to swing by. :) i like the otomainen gate personally gist x-type ravens like to jump out of there
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 07:44:00 - [32] Are there still people shooting Outlaw bandits at that one station and getting killed by pirates? www.siigarikitawa.com
XrayZ Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2008.05.30 08:36:00 - [33] and ur posting this useless thing cuz...? --------------------------------------
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.05.30 10:13:00 - [34] First, may I say that's a very nice ship you have there. Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Structure on a Domi: 8301 8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6 That's not how it works. It's 8301 / (1-0.6) = 20752.5
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 10:17:00 - [35] Originally by: Qui Shon First, may I say that's a very nice ship you have there. Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Structure on a Domi: 8301 8301 (HP) * 1.6 (DC Resists) = 13281.6 That's not how it works. It's 8301 / (1-0.6) = 20752.5 Oh yeah, I remembered it was a little more than that. Okay yeah, thank you for reminding me. So let's double the time, about a minute. www.siigarikitawa.com
Dr Clay	Posted - 2008.05.30 10:26:00 - [36] Just use it on the test server and never lose it?
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.05.30 10:30:00 - [37] Where are you?
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:23:00 - [38] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide. Please don't write a drone guide until you know just how effective Ogre IIs are against a Crow (or anything else that does more than 1km/s, for that matter).
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide. Please don't write a drone guide until you know just how effective Ogre IIs are against a Crow (or anything else that does more than 1km/s, for that matter). Hi. Read the part about the Warriors. Please don't post more until you learn how to read. Thanks. www.siigarikitawa.com
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Please don't post more until you learn how to read. Thanks. ... but it's so tiring to read, I'd rather mindlessly bash people for something they didn't really write!
NoNah	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide. I'm sorry, but I enjoyed your thread up until this. That's just not acceptable, self-proclaimed and in my own humble opinion, untrue. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 310414
Cerundis	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:32:00 - [42] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I pay a premium for them as I enjoy being the foremost EVE authority on Drones. I'm actually considering doing a Drone guide. I'm sorry, but I enjoyed your thread up until this. That's just not acceptable, self-proclaimed and in my own humble opinion, untrue. This.
Gamesguy Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:35:00 - [43] This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat. I wouldn't believe anything he says.
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat. I wouldn't believe anything he says. Lulz. Anyone surprised?
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 11:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat. I wouldn't believe anything he says. Wow, name calling someone you don't know! Let's go over some facts: 1: I have flown (and lost, to the forum's proof) a very expensive Navy Comet. 2: There has been a video posted of me in the forums somewhere ratting in my Moros. 3: I use my Moros to blow up people at gates, often getting hysterical reactions. 4: I posted this thread to share my excitement about my newest ship, and you don't know whether or not it exists. So posting that it absolutely does not and to not believe me speaks ill of your credibility. 5: Yes, I love drones very much. Whether I am "the" foremost authority or not, I have a lot of wisdom in this area. I can't fly a ship without a dronebay... it feels strange. Anyway drones are the first thing I look at when I fit a ship, and the last thing I see before I undock. 6: I enjoy crazy ships :D They give me a rush :) Any questions? :P www.siigarikitawa.com
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2008.05.30 12:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Any questions? :P Yes.
Enden Assulu Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.05.30 14:30:00 - [47] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Whips out e-peen Why would you fly this ship? I think more fun could be had setting fire to your ISK. * * * M3h Skillz
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.05.30 15:18:00 - [48] Edited by: Keitaro Baka on 30/05/2008 15:22:37 hmm Originally I wanted to just post 'hmm' but I guess I'll go into it some more. I'd love to help you test this ship on SiSi, especially the drones. I'd prolly first use a ceptor to make you drop your warriors. Then warp out and giggle about how you're unable to retrieve them (I have trouble retrieving warrior II's with my domi without nav computer, because they just fly too fast, orbit me and don't return to bay as normal, yours should be fun). In general the setup is ok-ish. The modules themselves are excellent, this combination lacks a damage control, and here's why I feel it does: Your setup uses an almost pure armour tank. Yet you forgo a slave omega in favour of a grid implant. Means less armour buffer. You needs an Anc Current router rig II, which again is a hit on the tank. You also have a single (heavy) cap injector. This will make you have a gap in which you drop through your cap, and probably into hull. A few decent hull hits for a few seconds and all your armour modules and rigs are useless. One damage control seriously relievs your ship here. Also where is Akemon's Modified 'Noble' ZET5000, the 'Noble' ZET4000, ZET3000 and Shaqil's Speed Enhancer (might aswell go all the way, next to a full Slave set)? Personally I tend to dual inject my dual rep tank, with 2 medium injectors + 800s. And carry a damage control. But that's just me. Drone nav cpu's I actually never use. I use tech II sentries + heavy neuts to kill pesky fast ships. Faster warriors for me means even harder to control drones, which can really get pulled out far. Also, to shoot, drones drop out of mwd and then they will not go fast enough to catch those ships anyways and will need to re-enter mwd again. I dunno.. The augmented drones do look the part, would have been nice if they needed the spec skills and would also get dmg from those, but meh. I don't have any nor know people who do so I haven't been able to test. Dunno about the hp either, would be a shame to have them SB-ed to frell. As for writing a drone guide: you can check mine for a general set up, I won't mind someone taking over at all :P Typ0s and grammer All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Povelitels	Posted - 2008.05.30 15:40:00 - [49] Quote: Let's see.. kinetic works better against armor than it does against shields. Thermal works better against shields than it does armor. Is this global for all races or just the ships you fly ?
Kusha'an RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.05.30 15:54:00 - [50] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Gamesguy This is the idiot that came up with a shield tanked nano-moros and supposedly used it to rat. I wouldn't believe anything he says. Wow, name calling someone you don't know! Let's go over some facts: 1: I have flown (and lost, to the forum's proof) a very expensive Navy Comet. 2: There has been a video posted of me in the forums somewhere ratting in my Moros. 3: I use my Moros to blow up people at gates, often getting hysterical reactions. 4: I posted this thread to share my excitement about my newest ship, and you don't know whether or not it exists. So posting that it absolutely does not and to not believe me speaks ill of your credibility. 5: Yes, I love drones very much. Whether I am "the" foremost authority or not, I have a lot of wisdom in this area. I can't fly a ship without a dronebay... it feels strange. Anyway drones are the first thing I look at when I fit a ship, and the last thing I see before I undock. 6: I enjoy crazy ships :D They give me a rush :) Any questions? :P Clearly you have committed a cardinal sin by learning to have fun with the game in your own way. The fun police have arrived and are determined to make sure that this never happens again. Please spend the rest of your Eve playing days in total anguish over what they have said, for their words are gospel and should be heeded. /sarc ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
TimMc Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.30 16:06:00 - [51] I think you would lose it the second you entered low sec or 0.0. A ship like that is ment to solo pwn entire carebear corporations in empire wars. Become a legend when they all ***** on EveO.
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.05.30 16:36:00 - [52] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa 'Augmented' Hammerhead x5 'Augmented' Ogre x5 'Augmented' Berserker x5 'Augmented' Warrior x5 Impressive. Not usefull but very impressive. Gz.
Elise Randolph Slacker Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.30 16:47:00 - [53] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 02:49:58 'Augmented' Warrior Top Speed: 8662.5m/s Tracking: 3.24rad/s EHP: 1500 Yeah, Crows are gonna freak out when they see this nightmare after them. Sorry to break the news, but a Raptor, Ares, Malediction, and Stiletto can keep you tackled outside your neut range, and outrun your drones. But man, your ship sure will scare (but not kill) Crows. Congrats, I suppose. But I do have one piece of advice for you: people who post expensive ship setups that they will likely never fly on the e-o forums come off as pathetic glory seeking attention *****s. Now, I'm not saying that you are, but I am saying that you appear that way. ---------- I need a good sig, someone make one for me.
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.05.30 19:04:00 - [54] Oh look, another idiotically built ship you funded by scamming your sheep of corp members that are too stupid to realize what's happening.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 19:16:00 - [55] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/05/2008 19:19:20 Originally by: Keitaro Baka Edited by: Keitaro Baka on 30/05/2008 15:22:37 hmm Originally I wanted to just post 'hmm' but I guess I'll go into it some more. I'd love to help you test this ship on SiSi, especially the drones. I'd prolly first use a ceptor to make you drop your warriors. Then warp out and giggle about how you're unable to retrieve them (I have trouble retrieving warrior II's with my domi without nav computer, because they just fly too fast, orbit me and don't return to bay as normal, yours should be fun). In general the setup is ok-ish. The modules themselves are excellent, this combination lacks a damage control, and here's why I feel it does: Your setup uses an almost pure armour tank. Yet you forgo a slave omega in favour of a grid implant. Means less armour buffer. You needs an Anc Current router rig II, which again is a hit on the tank. You also have a single (heavy) cap injector. This will make you have a gap in which you drop through your cap, and probably into hull. A few decent hull hits for a few seconds and all your armour modules and rigs are useless. One damage control seriously relievs your ship here. Also where is Akemon's Modified 'Noble' ZET5000, the 'Noble' ZET4000, ZET3000 and Shaqil's Speed Enhancer (might aswell go all the way, next to a full Slave set)? Personally I tend to dual inject my dual rep tank, with 2 medium injectors + 800s. And carry a damage control. But that's just me. Drone nav cpu's I actually never use. I use tech II sentries + heavy neuts to kill pesky fast ships. Faster warriors for me means even harder to control drones, which can really get pulled out far. Also, to shoot, drones drop out of mwd and then they will not go fast enough to catch those ships anyways and will need to re-enter mwd again. I dunno.. The augmented drones do look the part, would have been nice if they needed the spec skills and would also get dmg from those, but meh. I don't have any nor know people who do so I haven't been able to test. Dunno about the hp either, would be a shame to have them SB-ed to frell. As for writing a drone guide: you can check mine for a general set up, I won't mind someone taking over at all :P Typ0s and grammer Wow. Thanks, really. You know the first thing I said when I finished putting this ship together was "the tank!" I could have gotten an additional 300 DPS per second without an ACR, but then the fit would have been gimped by functionality and not tank. I mean there comes a point when you have to say what you want the ship to do. Be an amazing tank or be amazing at something else, lol. Originally the setup did have a damage control, but I noticed (in eve, not eft) the resistances were lower. So that caused me to do some thinking about whether or not if I had an armor tank, should I put more resistances into the armor? I mean my thinking is it makes the armor reps work a lot less. Sadly the marginal boost that I get from having two eanms versus one eanm and a damage control was based on a calculation that I accidentally miscalculated, so yeah I think I will probably be fitting a damage control now. The logic is sound but the feasibility states otherwise, and that's where it sucks. Originally by: Elise Randolph Sorry to break the news, but a Raptor, Ares, Malediction, and Stiletto can keep you tackled outside your neut range, and outrun your drones. But man, your ship sure will scare (but not kill) Crows. Congrats, I suppose. But I do have one piece of advice for you: people who post expensive ship setups that they will likely never fly on the e-o forums come off as pathetic glory seeking attention *****s. Now, I'm not saying that you are, but I am saying that you appear that way. You mistake my enthusiasm for attention whoring. I get this way about everything. Also, Viper, if you would have read the first sentence, I've had this ship for a long time. I'm just now putting the highslots together. www.siigarikitawa.com
arbalesttom Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.30 19:33:00 - [56] Edited by: arbalesttom on 30/05/2008 19:33:43 I know where Siigari lives, convo me and i might tell it to you for the price of 100million isk *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
Mo adib	Posted - 2008.05.30 21:26:00 - [57] drone regions may be a little chaotic right now but there is no way those bpcs are worth anything close to that, u should be able to easily find someone that can get these for you for cheaper then that. If you cant hit me up ingame and ill go get these damn things for u cause I would love to overcharge you by that much for what is a non impressive drone. additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill. so you have all these flashy split dmg types that are kinda meh for 500 mil a bpc.....
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.30 21:31:00 - [58] Originally by: Mo adib additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill. Augmented drones get the damage bonus as well. They require you have the specialization skill trained in order to use them. They have the tech 2 sticker, plus that requirement. www.siigarikitawa.com
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.05.30 23:04:00 - [59] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Mo adib additionally you need to take into consideration that t2's still do more dmg because they get the dmg bonus from the drone spec skill. Augmented drones get the damage bonus as well. They require you have the specialization skill trained in order to use them. They have the tech 2 sticker, plus that requirement. Ah yes they did change that :) augmented = tech II faction variant, yeah those are quite a bit better than tech II's including hp's. Yeah I want me some of those.. but not at those prices :P All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.30 23:39:00 - [60] Originally by: Keitaro Baka Ah yes they did change that :) augmented = tech II faction variant, yeah those are quite a bit better than tech II's including hp's. More HP's yes, much better no. Only one I think is better is the augmented ogres IF you're shooting guristas rats and that's about it On the subject, that's a big big waste of time and isk but whatever makes you tick Boink!
Kuzya Morozov L8L8L8	Posted - 2008.05.31 00:11:00 - [61] You fail so, so hard.
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.05.31 04:21:00 - [62] ITT: some guy posts a setup built with ISK from unknown sources and then loses said setup when every god damn pirate who reads these forums wardecs his corp or goes looking for him if their home is within 2 regions.
Antarr Slagh	Posted - 2008.05.31 04:54:00 - [63] Edited by: Antarr Slagh on 31/05/2008 05:01:36
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.06.04 03:44:00 - [64] Originally by: Kuzya Morozov You fail so, so hard. I was going to quote the poster before you (the one with the whatever made you tick comment). Thing is, fun makes me tick. Thankfully opinion is a good enough reason to spend money on something. If I like nice pens, and I go out and spend $400 on a pen (in real life) are you going to say OMG WHY ARE YOU BUYING THAT PEN FOR $400 WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!!! If you do, that's fine. But realize it's a hobby and something I enjoy. You can't incriminate somebody about being right or wrong for something they enjoy. Well, you can but it's just you that looks silly in the end. :) I just posted it to share how excited I was :D www.siigarikitawa.com
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Ixion Defence Systems Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.04 03:49:00 - [65] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Kuzya Morozov You fail so, so hard. I was going to quote the poster before you (the one with the whatever made you tick comment). Thing is, fun makes me tick. Thankfully opinion is a good enough reason to spend money on something. If I like nice pens, and I go out and spend $400 on a pen (in real life) are you going to say OMG WHY ARE YOU BUYING THAT PEN FOR $400 WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!!! If you do, that's fine. But realize it's a hobby and something I enjoy. You can't incriminate somebody about being right or wrong for something they enjoy. Well, you can but it's just you that looks silly in the end. :) I just posted it to share how excited I was :D Basically you posted just to show off. Which is really what you are after. Not excitement for the setup or anything, just a pure case of showing off (I can use another word for this you know). ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.06.04 04:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra Basically you posted just to show off. Which is really what you are after. Not excitement for the setup or anything, just a pure case of showing off (I can use another word for this you know). Which is fair. I have every right to be excited and post how awesome my ship that I have worked hard for is. But, it was not the intention. See thing is with that much isk in a ship, even I'm afraid to undock it sometimes. Anything can go wrong. I can disconnect (being the worst) or any slew of other things. So, I come here seeking advice, and advice I received. Someone suggested to fit a damage control over an EANM. After running the numbers I am taking that advice, but only because I realize the probability of an "oh sht" scenario is a very realistic potential. So, I came here for help and I got it. But yeah, sharing my excitement with others and showing how cool it is is pretty nice too :) People that flame and smack and all that probably do it because they're any number of things, but I would guess one of the major reasons is that they're upset that I have it. Dunno why. I always fly spendy stuff, and usually wind up having very little in reserve because of how much I spend on my toys. Realize the boost someone gets from opening the hood of their car and showing off the work they've done to a group of people is about the same thing. But at the end of the day that's what it is. Toys. www.siigarikitawa.com
Leeta Saviere	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:35:00 - [67] One Hell of a Great Ship - But: even though I do not PvP full time anymore, if I scanned this thip I would "dust" off my Curse call two m8's and sell those great mods. It would be fun to fly though, while it lasts. Enjoy. Thanks for the post.
Vagablonde Ouruboros Trading	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Eternal Error ITT: some guy posts a setup built with ISK from unknown sources and then loses said setup when every god damn pirate who reads these forums wardecs his corp or goes looking for him if their home is within 2 regions. unknown sources? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=779773 yeah. corp theft. yeah. ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.
dragonstar1 Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.06.04 12:47:00 - [69] Tbh the set-up is sound but far to expensive. i use a similar set-up but with normal T2 ****zle and it works fine i go with TS eanm's and a TS warp disruptor with ts web and it does fine you can overload to over 32km and your tank is nasty i use 2 x heavy neuts 1 x med neut 3 x med nosf Web+scram cap recharge cap injector and ab 2 large reps 1 eanm 1 dmg control 3 x hards kin/therm/exp rigs are 2 auxillary nano's 1 nanobot The resistances are 62 EM 72 EXP 80 KIN AND 80 THERM, I also use a exile booster my rep amount is roughly 3800 with both reps running and i can tank like a beast for a while only thing that cause's problems is running it all at 1 time but for solo pew pew it does well it doesnt cost you an arm and a leg and its effective if there is more than 1 of you Let me know what you guys think but tbh i dont see much wrong with the set-up
Siigari Kitawa The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.06.05 13:57:00 - [70] Originally by: Vagablonde Originally by: Eternal Error ITT: some guy posts a setup built with ISK from unknown sources and then loses said setup when every god damn pirate who reads these forums wardecs his corp or goes looking for him if their home is within 2 regions. unknown sources? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=779773 yeah. corp theft. yeah. Yeah, corp thief gets what he asks for. Yeah. Originally by: dragonstar1 Tbh the set-up is sound but far to expensive. i use a similar set-up but with normal T2 ***zle and it works fine i go with TS eanm's and a TS warp disruptor with ts web and it does fine you can overload to over 32km and your tank is nasty i use 2 x heavy neuts 1 x med neut 3 x med nosf Web+scram cap recharge cap injector and ab 2 large reps 1 eanm 1 dmg control 3 x hards kin/therm/exp rigs are 2 auxillary nano's 1 nanobot The resistances are 62 EM 72 EXP 80 KIN AND 80 THERM, I also use a exile booster my rep amount is roughly 3800 with both reps running and i can tank like a beast for a while only thing that cause's problems is running it all at 1 time but for solo pew pew it does well it doesnt cost you an arm and a leg and its effective if there is more than 1 of you Let me know what you guys think but tbh i dont see much wrong with the set-up I posted a few setups for you in your thread :D That's a good setup for a neutdomi, btw... but even with Exile I think* you're only going to be popping around 3000 per cycle.. but that's still 3000 per some 8.1 seconds. That's huge. The key to active Dominixes is their ability to refill their resisted HP. Once you understand that you can fly any Domi with pride :D www.siigarikitawa.com

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