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Delilah Lazar	Posted - 2008.06.11 17:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Delilah Lazar on 11/06/2008 17:50:58 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. This just had to be said... Edit: For those who did not activate images, click here.
Jacques Mkoll	Posted - 2008.06.11 17:52:00 - [2] I'm really bummed about this. I loved the Helios! :(
Lothris Andastar	Posted - 2008.06.11 17:54:00 - [3] Why has the change of the model of a ship that should be invisible 99% of the time matter so much?
Delilah Lazar	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Lothris Andastar Why has the change of the model of a ship that should be invisible 99% of the time matter so much? 1. we pilots of those ships do actually see them more of the time (like in POSes, when docked, etc.) 2. even cloaked you can see its outlines 3. on general principle the imicus is so ugly... they didnt even bother remodeling it a bit (like adding little antennas or gimmicks like the original helios had them)... seems to me like a simple reskin. what a loss :(
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:09:00 - [5] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Gwenvahar	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:13:00 - [6] I completely agree, I can not understand why this change was made.. I expect these ship types to be a pass-over due to appearance.. I wouldn't care if it was a technical improvement, I'd train a new race before I few an ugly ship of my own race.
Sydonis Xoth Industries	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:15:00 - [7] I agree - I feel the same way about my vigil-based Cheetah, instead I get a Probe-hull. :( At least the Imicus isn't THAT bad - have you taken a look at the Probe? I'm wondering about flying the buzzard again - at least that Heron wasn't too bad a ship to look at... and since I have to spend hours looking at the darned thing...
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Gwenvahar I completely agree, I can not understand why this change was made.. I expect these ship types to be a pass-over due to appearance.. I wouldn't care if it was a technical improvement, I'd train a new race before I few an ugly ship of my own race. Functionally speaking nothing's changed, so I doubt anyone's going to pass it up due to looks. I think they'll be like myself, and just keep it cloaked all the time. :)
Amastat Omegatech	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:17:00 - [9] Ahahahha :P Helios got visually nerfed. It's still a good cov ops... but you may have to drink until it's pretty when you fly it.
Jacques Mkoll Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:18:00 - [10] Edited by: Jacques Mkoll on 11/06/2008 18:18:47 I'm with Gwenvahar, I'd hate to fly a ship of my own race that is butt ugly. I can't really see why they changed this in the first place, the Maulus was the perfect hull for the Helios.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:20:00 - [11] First person to develop a client based mod to turn the Helios back into the Helios gets a cookie and 10 mil. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Jacques Mkoll I'm with Gwenvahar, I'd hate to fly a ship of my own race that is butt ugly. I can't really see why they changed this in the first place, the Maulus was the perfect hull for the Helios. I can only hope they use the hull for some epic new T2 awesomeness. I can see WHY they did this, basically bringing the ship hulls in line with their intended roles. I guess the only hope for a T2 Maulus would be as some kind of mini-recon ship. Can't see that happening soon though, since if you want a small cheap frigate-sized sensor damper you just use... a Maulus. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
Gwenvahar	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Atomos Darksun First person to develop a client based mod to turn the Helios back into the Helios gets a cookie and 10 mil. Well I bet the 1st person to develop any mod that work in game will get a lot of praise from players, and alot of flack from CCP or a job offer..
Jacques Mkoll Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Gwenvahar Well I bet the 1st person to develop any mod that work in game will get a lot of praise from players, and alot of flack from CCP or a job offer.. My money 'aint on the latter.
Freya Runestone	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Jacques Mkoll I'm with Gwenvahar, I'd hate to fly a ship of my own race that is butt ugly. I can't really see why they changed this in the first place, the Maulus was the perfect hull for the Helios. I can only hope they use the hull for some epic new T2 awesomeness. I can see WHY they did this, basically bringing the ship hulls in line with their intended roles. I guess the only hope for a T2 Maulus would be as some kind of mini-recon ship. Can't see that happening soon though, since if you want a small cheap frigate-sized sensor damper you just use... a Maulus. :) I would rather have them swap the Imicus and Maulus T1 hulls. helios was such a sexy ship. now... not so much.
annoing MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:49:00 - [16] I like the new Anathema, alot better looking than the old style which was, frankly, pants. When I first saw it I thought ugh ... but the more I look the happier I am.
Rangkai	Posted - 2008.06.11 18:52:00 - [17] My Helios was named "Super Space Moth" Now the name doesn't quite fit. :(
Bish Ounen Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.06.11 20:02:00 - [18] Originally by: Rangkai My Helios was named "Super Space Moth" Now the name doesn't quite fit. :( Well, you could always name it what I named my very first T1 Imicus... the "Palsied Tumor" Actually, I like the Imicus hull. I rather wish it was still that cool black that the Classic client uses though. I'm not all that fond of the grey-green look. Oh, and someone else asked about the T2 Maulus hull. That's still in use, as the Keres, the Gal E-War friggie.
Avaan Eclipse	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:40:00 - [19] I think they should go with the actual original imicus hull, which is now the navitas. Now that's an awesome hull that should've been the probing frigate, not some fugly imicus
Dukeslet Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:43:00 - [20] Edited by: Dukeslet on 11/06/2008 21:45:27 Originally by: Winterblink I can only hope they use the hull for some epic new T2 awesomeness. I guess the only hope for a T2 Maulus would be as some kind of mini-recon ship. EAF? Keres = t2 Maulus. It's kinda gold though (not sure I like the colour scheme compared to the old Helios). I'd guess they changed all the hulls to make it so the T2 = T1 upgrade, rather than being based on a ship that has no relation to it. The imicus has a drone bonus and an astrometrics bonus, which is what the Helios does. I'm bummed too (even though I've never flown the Helios I do have the skills to) - the Imicus hull looks terrible compared to the Maulus hull. I'd second the Navitas hull, although maybe they'll bring in a t2 mining or cargo frig that uses that hull :o Originally by: Xaen Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, seriously, wtf?
Grarr Dexx Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:44:00 - [21] Less whine more cloak.
Soulita Inner Core	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:50:00 - [22] Edited by: Soulita on 11/06/2008 21:50:21 /soulita looks at new helios
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:52:00 - [23] I love the Imicus skin. i kan haz ur helios? I know less than you think I do. Gemini Sun is Recruiting
Quelque Chose New Eden Roller Disco Supply	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:52:00 - [24] Edited by: Quelque Chose on 11/06/2008 21:52:43 Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Jacques Mkoll I'm with Gwenvahar, I'd hate to fly a ship of my own race that is butt ugly. I can't really see why they changed this in the first place, the Maulus was the perfect hull for the Helios. I can only hope they use the hull for some epic new T2 awesomeness. I can see WHY they did this, basically bringing the ship hulls in line with their intended roles. I guess the only hope for a T2 Maulus would be as some kind of mini-recon ship. Can't see that happening soon though, since if you want a small cheap frigate-sized sensor damper you just use... a Maulus. :) Keres =OP Damps suck but the Keres seems like it would make a good tackler. edit Agreed that the Imicus (or "Flying Porkchop" as I like to call it) is fugly. ___________________________________________
Tor Umar	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:52:00 - [25] NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This is soooo wrong. I loved that ship! Why dont CCP go the whole hog and paint it baby blue....oh...wait....weve been there before. Please change it back.
Sindayn Itai Marmite.	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:52:00 - [26] Edited by: Sindayn Itai on 11/06/2008 21:52:47 well I'm truly shocked at such a crap t1 ship turning into the helios model :( The original gallente designer surely isn't behind this bad decision. Give us the navitas as the helios model. "Love it or Hate it" Marmite CEO
Servarius	Posted - 2008.06.11 22:05:00 - [27] I had hoped this hull change was some sick, belated april fools joke...
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.06.11 22:08:00 - [28] The Navitas is so the better looker of the frigates, I just hope CCP are saving that one up for something special. Imicus, Imicus, what can you really say about it? Even the Velator has its number. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.06.11 22:15:00 - [29] Edited by: Abrazzar on 11/06/2008 22:24:26 And when you tell your great grand children about how great the Helios once looked like, show them this picture. Fixed link. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Nara Krylov	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:11:00 - [30] What I'm wondering is what was going through the designer's head when he spewed forth the Imicus model. I repeat, it resembles a LOPSIDED MONSTROSITY made out of SCRAP LOOTED FROM A 50's ERA SCRAPYARD that was WELDED TOGETHER BY A CR4CKHEAD. Why can't frigates in this game look like the SSV Normandy? =[ Wait, that's Amarr. Except they're golden and have this weird Victorian flair to them.

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