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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:32:00 -
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The Star Fraction and Government Militias
The Freecaptains and Fighters of the Star Fraction have noted with concern the new moves by the core empires to press capsuleers into their service, as enabled by the corrupt bureaucracy of CONCORD with its so-called 'Emergency Militia War Powers Act'. Opposed as we are to all forms of government interference and usurpation of the sovereignty of capsuleers there can be only one suitable response. As of this announcement, the government-controlled militia corporations listed below are legitimate targets for Star Fraction pilots and are set -10:
24th Imperial Crusade, Amarr Empire State Protectorate, Caldari State Federal Defense Union, Gallente Federation Tribal Liberation Force, Minmatar Republic
Further, any independent capsuleer corporation that affiliates itself to the core empires and their militias may be set -10 on the basis of such affiliation at our option. We also reserve the option of using sanctioned warfare against any notable capsuleer corporations that are affiliated to the core empires and their militias.
Capsuleers who directly sign-up with government militias or who make themselves privateers and flag-carriers for the core empires are betraying the promise of the future. To cede any sovereignty at all to the forces of government is a grave error. It can only strengthen the hand of those who believe it is only possible to make progress towards a better future by imposing 'law and order' with steel and flame and seductive lies.
We choose to resist this impulse. Better by far to achieve fellowship and rational co-operation by sound argument and honest words. Even so, we will not stand by and trust to words alone. The example must also be set and we shall look to our defence and the defence of the future. It may be that a new phase of bitter conflict is ahead of us. We may have many hard choices to make and thankless tasks to carry out. The lies and traps of the true enemies of the future may ensnare and turn those we once counted as comrades. If so, with heavy hearts we shall fight them, but light of mind and clear of purpose. We fight for our freedom, now and in the future.
The Conflict in Black Rise
While setting all government-controlled militias to -10, and noting that there are two geographically distinct war zones in the cluster following the recent upheavals, the Star Fraction will initially be focusing its opposition to the militia movements in the Black Rise region. This is to underline not only our opposition to this new form of imperial control over capsuleers but also to fight against the colonisation of yet another region of space by core empires. In this we oppose not only the Caldari State but also the Gallente Federation. While the State has appropriated this volume of space aggressively and is certainly guilty of precipitating the conflict over that region, it is clear the only response the Federation can conceive of is to attempt to conquer the region for itself.
The Star Fraction opposes these imperial powers in their grab and counter-grab over this region and we will seek to hinder the forces of both to the furthest possible extent.
Announcements on declarations of war against selected capsuleer-controlled corporations involved in this conflict will be made as events unfold.
On behalf of the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction
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Marie Trudeau
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:40:00 -
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*Marie Trudeau sighs as she reads her comfeed.
Ah well, it was to be expected in any case. I am disappointed, old friend, but not surprised. If we meet in battle, I wish you well, and moreover wish for a memorable engagement.
MT ---------------------------
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Julianus Soter
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:55:00 -
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I had a conversation with Vieve about seeing your ships in staging zones near systems that held the FDU facilities. We expected as much, and thank you for confirming our beliefs.
--- This post is not the official statement of my alliance or corporation.
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Dante Karaal
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:09:00 -
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I read with interest that the the Tribal Liberation Force has been included in your target announcement. I myself will be witholding judgement on this militia until it is clear to me the degree of their affiliation with a government and state reportedly in disarray.
I also note that another corporation known to uphold Fractionist ideals, Stimulus, has opted to aid the newly formed TLF. What is your position on this? Will they be aggressed by Star Fraction pilots as a result of their current affiliation? |

Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:40:00 -
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Standings Enclosurism! It's the worst regressive doggrel I've read in a long time.
In fact, Star Fraction has now been stripped of it's positive standings to Stimulus. There is no way in hell a group that would stoop to the level of Iron, Razor, and CVA will have anything from Stimulus beyond hostile fire.
Pathetic.
Jonny Damordred |

Yoshitaka Moromuo
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:55:00 -
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Friend,
You and I have reached agreements in the past where negative standings were mistakenly assigned - the days where I was a self-employed, self-made industrial pilot in Providence. To this day, I still recognize you as one of the most intelligent, well-spoken members of the Star Fraction, and someone I can always walk away from having gained a new understanding of a subject.
However, the days of my two-man corporation are long past. While I am still an industrial man, I do so to support a larger whole. And with these new revelations, I come to you politely to seek a better understanding of the Fraction's new position.
Forgive me if the following question is rather frank, but will the Fraction's pilots be restricting fire to only those warships flying the banner of the militias, or will they be under standing order to attack any vessel connected to it, regardless of its function? I'd rather not see needless bloodshed, as I am sure you feel as well. |

Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:00:00 -
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Can't say I was expecting something that drastic from my comrades in The Star Fraction.
I reactivated my pod captain license just a few hours ago, and we are seriously considering signing up our little corporation with TLF.
TLF might be a state militia, but one can fight for the interests of his people. Association with TLF is the most practical option available.
I am a free captain at heart, but I was born a free Minmatar and spent at least half of my career as a capsuleer in low security Metropolis. Our people do not deserve slavery at the hands of Amarrian religious fanatics.
We will win this war under the banner of Minmatar Republic, and worry about government influences when we can afford to. |

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:04:00 -
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The Star Fraction will be making its own judgements in its own good time as to which capsuleer corporations that choose to affiliate with the government militias are set to -10 or not.
I thank you for your question Dante, as it allows me to make clear a couple of points in general terms. There will be no automatic setting of capsuleer-controlled corporations to -10 for their affiliation with the government militias. Rather, the affiliation of capsuleer corporations with and support for the military and paramilitary apparatus of the empires will be a factor in determing their standings on an ideological basis. As a factor it will be balanced with any existing relationship with the capsuleer corporation in question, the degree and extent to which their support is expressed in word and deed, the relative threat level of the corporation and a number of other factors. We retain control over our standings list and we do not enforce our standings on others. We will continue our policy of weighing standings using diplomacy.
This is in stark contrast to any capsuleer corporation that signs itself up for affiliation with the government militias. At a stroke, such a corporation adopts the standings regime of the empire in question and will automatically see any player corporation affiliated to opposing militias as enemies. I am not sure how any capsuleer corporation that affiliates itself with a government militia can have the sheer effrontery to accuse others of being standings enclosurists or on the level of such as IRON or the CVA. The reality is that a capsuleer corporation that affiliates to a government militia is, if anything, worse than such as RAZOR as it unthinkingly and automatically adopts the target list of those it chooses to take orders from.
On your specific question, Dante, as Stimulus is currently a blue status corporation and has only stated that we are no longer blue we shall not consider them a threat at present. This is on the assumption that Stimulus remain an NRDS entity and that our loss of blue status means no more than that we are now neutrals. If any new information on this comes to light, we shall factor it into our thinking.
I hope this answers your question, Dante.
The Cosmopolite
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:16:00 -
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Capsuleer Moromuo,
Thank you for your question, which is partly answered by my reply to Dante but let me make it quite clear that our pilots remain under the long-standing RoE of only attacking pilots who are flagged -10 (or 'red') and are not authorised to attack on the basis of affiliation alone. Capsuleer corporations that are affiliated to government militias may or may not be set -10 depending on a variety of factors affecting that judgement. We will be exploring ways of making such settings publicly available so as to avoid misunderstandings where possible.
The Cosmopolite
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Chungito
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:19:00 -
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Reconsider.
At this point there is no more Republic, only the united tribes. We do not know what the future will bring for my people and their chosen form of government, but we do know that it is not the yearning for more space and high profits that can call my people to war. Do not forsake those who fight for the freedom of their race because of an affiliation with the ghost of a Republic.
The Ushra'Khan does not desire tension with an honored ally. |

Viqer Fell
The Republican 1st Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:23:00 -
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So it's not just an excuse to provide your pilots with a larger array of targets then. No, of course it isn't. Nothing at all to do with that. What a crazy suggestion. |

Marie Trudeau
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:24:00 -
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So many rules.
I always thought that the basic rule was to prevent new empires developing in nullsec. Of course you are skeptical of imperial advancement into new regions of space ... but that is a one-sided game. Not *all* empires have decided to expand into this space, and to be honest, if you shoot everyone you see there, you are, de facto, picking sides, even though you hide behind a screen that says you are not. You know as well as I do what is happening in the cluster now. If I didn't know you better, Cosmo, I'd say this was a reach for kills, and nothing more. That's very unfortunate. |

Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite There will be no automatic setting of capsuleer-controlled corporations to -10 for their affiliation with the government militias. Rather, the affiliation of capsuleer corporations with and support for the military and paramilitary apparatus of the empires will be a factor in determing their standings on an ideological basis.
I liked the Jericho Fraction better when -10 standings were reserved only for those who shot at JF pilots. This new policy seems to basically say "we'll set anyone we feel like to -10". Alas...
Shin's writings
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.13 03:06:00 -
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I would further argue the point, but the three ex-Star Fraction directors above me said it better than I could.
Jonny D. |

Kudon Astraisx
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:07:00 -
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It would be most disconcerting if, in an effort to defend our people from slavery, we also had to contend with those who wish to impose their political beliefs upon others in the name of falsely-called "freedom".
But we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. --
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Tomahawk Bliss
The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:09:00 -
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what a huge PR debacle.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:22:00 -
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I fear that whatever the former employment status of certain pilots may or may not be, it is rather less important than their employment status at the moment. This, again, is a principle that should be familiar to anyone who knows anything about the ideology of the Star Fraction.
Passing over the regrets and rose-tinted remembrances of those who chose to part ways with the Star Fraction some time ago, in no case that I recall parting badly or in reproach, and who now cleave themselves to one or other imperial apparatuses, I must respond to our honoured ally Chungito of the Ushra'Khan.
My friend and battle comrade, Chungito, and indeed all Ushra'Khan fighters and independent Minmatar fighters, I say to you that the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction deliberated long and hard over this decision. The formation of the government-controlled militias became official some three days ago. We in the Star Fraction considered our options and what was in the best interest of our cause very carefully. We also gave due attention to the likely diplomatic fallout among certain allies and friendly entities. Lightly-taken this decision was not. Easier by far, for us, would have been the road of partiality and compromise. We cannot take that path, much as it may strain some bonds and, yes, tear asunder others.
What we can say, however, is that we have carefully monitored the state of all empires during these tumultuous times. We consider that our attention is best spent in the conflict over the Black Rise region where aggression and counter-aggression is taking place with, despite any protestations that may issue from the mouths of Federation apparatchiki, both empires intent on the conquest of that region and not its liberation. In part, this choice has been informed by the still fluid nature of the situation within the Minmatar Republic. While we cannot in good conscience condemn one government-controlled militia and fail to condemn another, we recognise that the conflict between the Amarr and the Minmatar is not solely a conflict between different governments or bound up in territorial disputes.
There is indeed a struggle over basic issues of freedom and we know that many will take up the torch and fight for freedom. We would argue this can be done without submitting to affiliation with a government, even one so wracked with turmoil as the Republic. Naturally, it is for every individual to make this judgement for themselves. We, for the moment, shall take up the torch and fluorish it in the dark corners of Black Rise, where the struggle is a base and obvious war of territory and expansionism between two forms of government that each seek to ensnare the minds of capsuleers into fighting not for freedom but for the machine.
The Republic may be collapsing but it yet exists and we cannot peer into the future or stay our hand indefinitely. However, we shall continue to monitor the situation in the Republic, and all other empires, should circumstances significantly change then the Star Fraction would clearly need to consider the implications for our policy. Friends and allies are always welcome to speak to us and advise us. We will entertain any embassy and consider any entreaty. For now, we watch, we wait and we shall certainly listen to those who continue to honour our alliances and friendships.
The Cosmopolite
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Marie Trudeau
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:30:00 -
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"Employment"?
Excuse me?
In any case ... too many words.
Translation: SF sees more targets in BR, and so that is where they will be. This makes sense in practical terms, because the warmap discloses that Caldari/Gallente are around 65% of the FW. So it's case of Targets-R-Us.
As for the rest, that is nonsense. Since when has JF ever given a damn about one faction vs. another? You're now obviously picking sides. You've lost your mission, and you are out of your depth. I am at times sad and at times disgusted.
Ugh, is all I can honestly say.
Ugh. ---------------------------
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:47:00 -
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If you seek enemies everywhere, everywhere shall you find them. |

Tara Armitage
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 05:49:00 -
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We are not taking sides. As ever, all empires are equal in our view. As ever we consider the situation and make the decisions based on how our resources are best spent in practice to further our agenda. The focus in question is a practical decision. As such it is no different from many other such decisions taken over the years. Also please observe how we are not taking sides even on the Black Rise -conflict itself.
The time for others will come, but only when we consider it beneficial to shift our focus in the light of our wider goals.
Thank you for your time, capsuleers.
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:07:00 -
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Come on, is it that hard to understand the message of the Star Fraction?
While I am over-joyed at events of the last week, and while Ushra'Khan fights along-side the TLF even as I write, it's not with some reservation I regard the militia system. I was bitterly disappointed when Concord re-exerted their control, their tyranny appears almost insurmountable. Their rapid implementation of the militia system fills me with suspicion.
Has it escaped everyone that to join the militia and go to war against the enemy, alliances like Ushra'Khan have to surrender our command?
I can't help but feel Concord have created a system of token warfare designed to do nothing more than appease the masses, and weaken that power base that operates as far as possible outside their jurisdiction.
Seems to me very few people can, or are willing to, see that. -----------------------------------------
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Chungito
At this point there is no more Republic, only the united tribes.
Perhaps you should tell CONCORD that.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kai Zion
The Zion Accounts
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:48:00 -
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It is said that wisdom is the thought that comes before a reaction; the silence of contemplation that precedes criticism.
In you I see that wisdom, Karn. The kind your Amarrian counterparts could only dream of and feebly attempt to emulate. Hello there Mr Blake.
To you, Doctor, and all of your colleagues. My best wishes. Though there may be many that are, not every task will be thankless. All too often the near-silent whisperings of gratitude from below will remain unheard amongst the stars. I hope you will keep that thought with you during the times to come.
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:01:00 -
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I am saddened by the statements made by my friends and colleagues in the Star Fraction. I hope to never have to fire a weapon against them, but I have little tolerance for the sort of standings games that the CVA play. |

Viqer Fell
The Republican 1st Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:09:00 -
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I refer to one point you make:
There is indeed a struggle over basic issues of freedom and we know that many will take up the torch and fight for freedom. We would argue this can be done without submitting to affiliation with a government, even one so wracked with turmoil as the Republic.
So what you are saying is that it's ok to fight against the Amarrians, It's ok to kill slavers, It's perfectly fine to fight for freedom for the Minmatar tribes and people. Just so long as you don't actually do it under a certain flag or you will attack us.
Ergo we can do what we like and indeed we can do everything we would as if we were in the militia as long as we don't actually enter the militia corporation. And if we do you will arbitrarily consider yourselves free to shoot us, at your own mercurial discretion.
If it reads like looks like Standings enclosurism and it stinks like it then maybe it just is.......... |

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 13/06/2008 09:01:01
I must admit, is heart-warming to see numerous militia supporters talk of the importance of avoiding standings enclosurism.
I trust they will all be refraining from firing on members of capsuleer-controlled militia corporations until they have formally set them -10.
I trust they will all be making their decisions on which capsuleer-controlled militia corporations to set -10 according to a range of factors rather than automatically due to militia affiliation.
I trust that any corporations with positive standings who are found to be affiliated to opposing militias will have these positive standings taken into account and due diplomacy entered into.
I trust that they will all consider diplomacy with capsuleer-controlled militia corporations and the possibility of agreements not to fire on capsuleer-controlled corporations affiliated to militias they happen to oppose.
Finally, I trust that they will not be insisting that the only way to be returned to neutral status (or to put it another way, cease to be -10 and a legitimate target) is to drop all affiliation with a militia they happen to oppose.
I'm looking forward to a confirmation on all these points from those militia supporters who have preached the evils of enclosurism and spoken of not playing standings games.
We can confirm these points for our part. Will these others?
The Cosmopolite
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2008.06.13 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 13/06/2008 09:01:01
We can confirm these points for our part. Will these others?
The Cosmopolite
No pilot fighting as a member of militia corporation or a corporation affiliated with militias can confirm these.
However militia affiliates and The Star Fraction face their challenges under the different circumstances. Star Fraction distanced itself from any involvement with the governments of New Eden, and that is a fine choice. As a result Star Fraction is responsible for nobody but themselves. In the case of "militiamen", especially the ones connected to what remains of Minmatar Republic, they are responsible for the faceless and helpless (on galactic scale of things) masses of planetary population, whose interests currently happen to match with the goals of their government,- survival and defeat of Amarrian aggressors.
The choice we are making here is between staying true to free space ideals or watching from afar how our people suffer at the hands of Amarr or incompetent command of Republic Fleet. One man's life and reputation versus fate of a race. And I believe you would agree that it is up to every individual pod captain to distance themselves from planetary population or assume responsibility for future of the people they were once a part of.
Finally Star Fraction has always reserved the right to declare war for political reasons (not aggression alone), and that is what you are doing now. We are exercising the same practice by declaring war at enemy faction affiliated corporations through the TLF channel, and mind you, no Empire tells a capsuleer corporation who to attack. This is not a blind adoption of some 0.0 tyrant's standings by spineless renter worms. It is quite clear who we will attack by sighing up with TLF, and we made our rightful decision.
You may weigh every corporation's involvement with the militias and decide if they deserve -10, but on the grand scale of things it matters not. People on the wrong side of your weapons will not care if you attacked them out of (self)righteous reasons or out of hate, jealousy or anything else. The end result is war. It is brutal, it is dirty, and ultimately it has no right or wrong. We all gamble with our conscience when we involve ourselves in armed conflicts, for our reasons that seem so worthy and just now might not stand the test of time. This is true in Star Fraction's case as well.
I guess what I was trying to say is Star Fraction makes their choices, we make ours. Lets not take moral high grounds here because there aren't any. From my point of view the biggest part of free space ideals always was to assume responsibility for one's actions anyway. And believe me we do, nor do we bend our knee before Minmatar Republic by choosing to help its citizens.
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador Kingdom of Redemption
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Posted - 2008.06.13 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny Damordred Standings Enclosurism! It's the worst regressive doggrel I've read in a long time.
In fact, Star Fraction has now been stripped of it's positive standings to Stimulus. There is no way in hell a group that would stoop to the level of Iron, Razor, and CVA will have anything from Stimulus beyond hostile fire.
Pathetic.
Jonny Damordred
First of all, it's not possible for someone to stoop as low as Iron.
Second while I despise their policy, at least the SF is actually sticking to their beliefs unlike many others. While they have a dark vision, at least it's a pure one.
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Kudon Astraisx
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tablaren Second while I despise their policy, at least the SF is actually sticking to their beliefs unlike many others. While they have a dark vision, at least it's a pure one.
Continuing to follow misguided beliefs rather than see one's errors is not a virtue. |

Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kudon Astraisx
Originally by: Tablaren Second while I despise their policy, at least the SF is actually sticking to their beliefs unlike many others. While they have a dark vision, at least it's a pure one.
Continuing to follow misguided beliefs rather than see one's errors is not a virtue.
Right or wrong is subjective. Or do you imply there is other truth besides point of view? |
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