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Dr Sheepbringer	Posted - 2008.06.16 18:23:00 - [61] Then they should't officially support macs. Simple, but they are ranting in Apple news etc. that here you have a great game, but forget to mention that if you have problems or issues with the game...there will be no answer. There will be no communication. There won't be ANYTHING that mac-users have been used to. Top-level customer satisfaction.
riru	Posted - 2008.06.16 21:21:00 - [62] +support I'm pretty sure Premium for linux and mac will soon come once Transgaming has made SwiftShaders better (When Cedega 6.1 final is released.) But I guess we'd need info from ccp/tg to actually know it. Gao~
Jefofo Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2008.06.17 03:38:00 - [63] Supporting, I like this game a lot and there has been improvements to the stability of the client, but there's still tons of problems, lack of communication (it seems) and whatnot.
Case Reiderer	Posted - 2008.06.17 07:15:00 - [64] +support, since I forgot to check the box......
J'Mkarr Soban Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2008.06.17 08:09:00 - [65] I support this in principle, but I've got to say that if you're using Linux you should know better. Wine runs Eve much much better than Cedega (the wrapper for the 'true' Linux client), and after only a few weeks when the Windows Premium Client was released, it was stable on Linux. If you use Linux, you should know this Mac users, on the other hand, tend to be more like Windows users, and don't care. Plus, they don't really have Wine (I think there is a version, but it's buggy as hell.) I'd like to point out though that Cedega is <i>not</i> the best choice, nor has it ever been. Some users used to have Cedega installed already - a full version of it - and when you install the Linux Eve Client it nukes everything on your base install, because Cedega weren't even clever enough to use different directories (it's all in ~/.cedega iirc). If CCP were to support Wine instead of Cedega, they would have one less client to worry about, and one less partner to worry about (at least for Linux). This would mean a faster development cycle. Also, there is an ideological viewpoint. Cedega is well known for ripping off the latest versions of Wine, altering a few things, and then selling it on without contributing back to Wine - without which it wouldn't be around. I don't like that or support it. If CCP went down the Wine route, they could at least help Wine make Wine better, thus making Eve better. -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Skyynxnex	Posted - 2008.06.17 10:10:00 - [66] +support i use the mac client exclusivl and i have to say that it crashes just as much as it did before and it is in CCP's best interest to keep mac and linux users playing the game by insuring its quality is maintained
Thenin	Posted - 2008.06.17 10:59:00 - [67] +support
Suffen	Posted - 2008.06.18 00:48:00 - [68] Edited by: Suffen on 18/06/2008 00:56:44 support +1
Witztum Carnyx	Posted - 2008.06.18 07:54:00 - [69] + Support. 101%
Serge Merov	Posted - 2008.06.18 08:48:00 - [70] +support I run EVE on a mac. I don't want to have to deal with the pain put into using windows, or the effort into linux. So am I damned to face a hypocritical programming team who only claim to support my favored platform? Because if that's the case, I'd much rather spend my time and money on people who actually respond to minorities in their user base, which, may I point out, CCP sadly has not. Yes, yes, I know the difficulties of programming a new graphics engine, if it is even required here. I know the difficulty of recreating models in an entirely different format. I also know the difficulty of making a simple forum post. I sincerely hope that this silence is only temporary, and that someone, somewhere, will finally get off their lazy ass and at least make a comment regarding how this is going. Because this is really getting annoying...
Yosarian MediaCataclysm	Posted - 2008.06.18 11:22:00 - [71] Mac client has been more stable for me lately (so thank you ccp for that). wtb Premium Graphics... :)
Marc Isabel	Posted - 2008.06.18 12:26:00 - [72] I support this :)
Hagis McBree Lucky Star Enterprises The Gemini Project	Posted - 2008.06.18 15:31:00 - [73] jumping on the bandwagon
Greyhair	Posted - 2008.06.18 18:30:00 - [74]
Dru McCarty	Posted - 2008.06.18 20:00:00 - [75] Edited by: Dru McCarty on 18/06/2008 20:01:16 Agreed! God save the Penguin! ------------------------------ * Comments are packaged by intellectual weight, not volume. Some settling of contents may have occurred during transmission.
Archir	Posted - 2008.06.18 21:55:00 - [76] Edited by: Archir on 18/06/2008 21:55:21 +support
Synapse Archae Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.06.19 02:40:00 - [77] /support. I will be using the linux client in time. - - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Aurinkokuningas	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:51:00 - [78] Windows is a thing of the past. Proper 64-bit Linux allows me to use the computer without distractions (Vista's constant popup & dialog hell cough cough), more efficiently, and more conveniently. Please, give us a proper native 64-bit Linux client with Premium graphics and all. Consider abandoning the Windows as well while at it :)
Asif BADKARMA Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:09:00 - [79] singed, more information please
jansaell Phoenix Industries Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.20 15:08:00 - [80] + Suport from me to. I have been using various versions of eve under Linux now for over a year, and have found that the 0.58 of wine works perfectly for me with premium graphics. But that still don't take away from the fact that CCP need to keep us informed.
Captain Ziltoid	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:36:00 - [81] +Support I run EVE fine enough to mine on Linux, but I wouldn't consider risking a boat in a mission. Every time I return to station to dump my load, I change res and change back just because it seems to help refresh the graphics glitches I get. Sound also cuts in and out a lot. EVE runs on Linux, it just needs to be streamlined and improved.
Dwindlehop Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2008.06.20 20:59:00 - [82] +Support
Dwindlehop Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2008.06.20 21:00:00 - [83] +support this time for real.
Ankhesentapemkah	Posted - 2008.06.21 17:51:00 - [84] This issue has been addressed, and there is good news coming for this topic next week. --- Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
Jin Takamura	Posted - 2008.06.22 18:26:00 - [85] +Support anyhow.
Katrina Bekers Hikage Corporation Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:48:00 - [86] As the original issue, I don't care very much about actual software and development support. WINE is and will be still better than any possible closed-source ripoff. What I'd love is proper customer communication. Not fancy-dandy, buzzword-filled, trade fair brochure lookalikes. I don't need to know about any "exciting new synergies to implement our global vision" and other Dilbertisms like that. Just be open and honest with your customers, and we will deeply appreciate even the bad news. We can always fix our software. --- Kate :: HKG :: PXF
Kesper North Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2008.06.23 21:01:00 - [87] FYI, folks, one of the developers posted over on the Mac forum to say that there would be a dev blog about this some time this week, regarding the beginnings of a limited beta test for the Premium clients.
Chillshock	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:40:00 - [88]
Psychotic Penguin Penguin Industries	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:27:00 - [89]
Mahandra Hunter	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:29:00 - [90] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Posted - 21/06/2008 17:51:00 This issue has been addressed, and there is good news coming for this topic next week. Notes date of post. Looks at calendar. Wonders how long week is to CCP

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