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Ulfgar Rumnarn	Posted - 2008.06.14 06:17:00 - [1] I have noticed a lot of former pirates joining the militias. There are several outlaws and also just slightly negative sec status in militias now. This intrigues me. Is this because it gives them far greater ability to find targets to pop without having to worry about grinding up sec staus later? Is this the end of most pirating as we know it? I would like to hear what other people think. It is early on and already I see a lot of pirates joining militias. Maybe FW is so much fun pirates figure thier EVE dollars are better spend playing FW instead of gate camping?
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.06.14 06:24:00 - [2] A lot of pirates thought that FW would provide them with lots of little targets. Unfortunately for them, it's actually provided them with several huge fleets per day which are actually very well coordinated. They've got the choice to join one of the militias and have some fleet op fun or fight against both sides. We've seen how badly pirate gatecamps go when a 200-man caldari blob runs through it. I'm sure some of the most skilled pirates will refuse to join either side but I have seen a number of them join militias. It's fun lowsec PvP and plenty of it, that's pretty much what most of the current pirates want. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.06.14 07:59:00 - [3] There were far more pirates than could be supported by lo-sec. FW is probably the best thing that's happened to lo-sec in years. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Spineker	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:03:00 - [4] What I have seen is pirates dying or running for it from fleets. small or large. I almost felt sorry for them then I remember that they like to slap each other on the back for killing Industrial ships and miner ships and remember what I think of their skills.
My Julutschka	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:08:00 - [5] THIS many of them realised, that there is a differenc between ganking unaware haulers, miners, missionrunners...or taking up a fight with people that are actually looking for one
Viral Shadow Ryddinjorn Corsairs	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:10:00 - [6] znd there is also a diff in fighting 10 people and getting invaded by 50 people vs the 5-10 pirates that usually are together in a system
Wen Johen	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:16:00 - [7] I find it very funny because I remember some of the pirates beating their chests here on forums about how they are going to slaughter all the FW carebears and noobs and FW is going to fail. And now look who is getting slaughtered
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:24:00 - [8] For those who adopted piracy as a means to indulge their PvP-lust, faction warfare is great because it provides a steady stream of targets in the form of control bunkers and dungeons and such - static points that both sides can rally around and fight over, as opposed to great swaths of territory that people roam through in the hopes of encountering something to shoot at. Those who turned to piracy and stick to gatecamps to molest miners/mission runners/etc are simply in it to gang up on weaker targets (not that the more hardcore pirates let these people pass unmolested, its just that the more opportunistic "scavenger" pirates are ONLY interested in weak targets they know they can beat, vs the hardcore pirates that are more interested in the thrill of the fight itself) will likely not join in faction warfare, as they have to face a higher caliber of target than they're comfortable with. I think its still too early to make definite predictions, especially since its already been stated Empyrean 1.1 is in the works, but I think we'll see a definite shift in low sec piracy as a lot of people get "distracted" with the war. Certain highly contested areas may become more dangerous as they gain higher concentrations of PvPers itching for an engagement, while other areas are drained of the more dangerous pirates (at least until the next crop sees an open niche and moves in) Should be interesting times ahead. Personally I plan to continue profiteering off the whole thing and let the pirates slug it out
RuleoftheBone Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.06.14 10:05:00 - [9] OP: Piracy/Outlaw does not always mean gate-camps. Seeing a couple outlaws on a gate does not mean a camp either....possibly they are waiting for a scout report from the next system? The big blobs are reserved for alliances and now FW parties...the more you know right . While there has been a reasonable increase in losec activity (outside of the Black Rise area which I am avoiding atm) the majority of targets are T1 junk not worth the aggro timer or blob risk for the little loot they might drop. The actual hunters in the game (as opposed to the "Duck Hunt" adherents) are still around....watching....waiting. We engage on our terms...not yours . "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Kelli Flay	Posted - 2008.06.14 10:37:00 - [10] Originally by: RuleoftheBone OP: Piracy/Outlaw does not always mean gate-camps. Seeing a couple outlaws on a gate does not mean a camp either....possibly they are waiting for a scout report from the next system? The big blobs are reserved for alliances and now FW parties...the more you know right . While there has been a reasonable increase in losec activity (outside of the Black Rise area which I am avoiding atm) the majority of targets are T1 junk not worth the aggro timer or blob risk for the little loot they might drop. The actual hunters in the game (as opposed to the "Duck Hunt" adherents) are still around....watching....waiting. We engage on our terms...not yours . Try again. Lots of Militia guys are flying T2 fitted ships, Hacs, BCs, BS ect. I guess the Pirates excuse now for being cowards is that there is nothing worth shooting at.

Surfin's PlunderBunny Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.06.14 10:39:00 - [11] I'm still here, I will not partake in FW.... there is no need for concern
Tommy Reslin Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.14 10:48:00 - [12] I find it amusing that the same thing happening in FW happened in history as well. When the navies of the past became a significant power, piracy began to die off. The same is happening here. What you're seeing is the pirates who want to kill people with little risk of losing status, the pirates who are dropping out of being a pirate, because they can't cope with the number of opposing fleets, pirates that just.. try to get more pirates and combat the bigger fleets (which normally doesn't work due to the militia channel allowing people to form massive blods), and then last are the pirates who are extremely good at pirating whom aren't worried about a thing. So you have the weaker pirates dying off or fighting futiley while the pros are doing what they've always been doing.
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.14 10:55:00 - [13] So you're basically happy you brought huge laggy blobs to low-sec as well?
hedfunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Kelli Flay Originally by: RuleoftheBone OP: Piracy/Outlaw does not always mean gate-camps. Seeing a couple outlaws on a gate does not mean a camp either....possibly they are waiting for a scout report from the next system? The big blobs are reserved for alliances and now FW parties...the more you know right . While there has been a reasonable increase in losec activity (outside of the Black Rise area which I am avoiding atm) the majority of targets are T1 junk not worth the aggro timer or blob risk for the little loot they might drop. The actual hunters in the game (as opposed to the "Duck Hunt" adherents) are still around....watching....waiting. We engage on our terms...not yours . I'm sure if it was close to an even fight, i.e 10vs 10 or even 10vs 15 the pirates would engage. But as said earlier in this thread, there's fleets of 200+ ppl going about, and you're calling pirates cowards for not engaging? What? Try again. Lots of Militia guys are flying T2 fitted ships, Hacs, BCs, BS ect. I guess the Pirates excuse now for being cowards is that there is nothing worth shooting at.
Tommy Reslin Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:05:00 - [15] Originally by: ApaKaka So you're basically happy you brought huge laggy blobs to low-sec as well? Never said that but FW is a load of fun. I just mentioned that it's funny how it happened in this game. In EvE the same thing happening here also happened in our reality during the time frame where piracy was popular.
z0de The Bastards	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:09:00 - [16] Where are all these big fleets? I have seen none :(
FlameGlow State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Tommy Reslin So you have the weaker pirates dying off or fighting futiley while the pros are doing what they've always been doing. Some also join one militia and continue usual trade with some breaks for light pew-pew against opposing militia.
AppleBanana	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:10:00 - [18] Lowsec is safer than ever, pirates joining FW and FCs never shoot nuetrals at gates unless they go flashy. Pretty much anyone can fly around lowsec now and be very safe, and i have yet to see a HIC gatecamp since the patch. I think most of the so called pirates werent really pirates to begin with. They were just ppl who wanted to shoot stuff, but the real pirates seem to be the ppl who try to make money off being pirates. Seems like most the "i just wanna shoot stuff" pirates joined FW which works out better for them anyways. They can still do everything they did as a pirate plus have alot more FW objectives to enjoy. Staying a regular old pirate seems like a restriction now and you cant enjoy lowsec to its new improved fullness.
FlameGlow State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:12:00 - [19] Originally by: z0de Where are all these big fleets? I have seen none :( Fly to Tama and look 2 jumps around it, there is always some blob or another in that area. I personally hate the lag it creates and stay out, plenty of space in black rise.
Tommy Reslin Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:13:00 - [20] Originally by: AppleBanana Lowsec is safer than ever, pirates joining FW and FCs never shoot nuetrals at gates unless they go flashy. Pretty much anyone can fly around lowsec now and be very safe, and i have yet to see a HIC gatecamp since the patch. I think most of the so called pirates werent really pirates to begin with. They were just ppl who wanted to shoot stuff, but the real pirates seem to be the ppl who try to make money off being pirates. Seems like most the "i just wanna shoot stuff" pirates joined FW which works out better for them anyways. They can still do everything they did as a pirate plus have alot more FW objectives to enjoy. Staying a regular old pirate seems like a restriction now and you cant enjoy lowsec to its new improved fullness. I wouldn't say that FCs never shoot neutrals. I was in a Militia blob that wanted to just kills things. It ended up getting somewhere around 90 people. After awhile, since the enemies were smart and avoided them, they got so bored they began firing on any neutrals they saw. I left the group when they began to target neuts. :P

Jintau Kawazoe Isonami Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Wen Johen I find it very funny because I remember some of the pirates beating their chests here on forums about how they are going to slaughter all the FW carebears and noobs and FW is going to fail. And now look who is getting slaughtered QFT Isonami Syndicate Recruitment Thread pew p
Esmenet	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Wen Johen I find it very funny because I remember some of the pirates beating their chests here on forums about how they are going to slaughter all the FW carebears and noobs and FW is going to fail. And now look who is getting slaughtered I doubt pirates are getting slaughtered, they just stay away from blobs. Pirates generally look for smallscale pvp and are in it to make isk. So 200 man blobs are not exactly their intended target.
Euriti SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:22:00 - [23] Edited by: Euriti on 14/06/2008 11:22:38 I think it's a good thing, It really gives the 24/7 gatecamp pirates a run for their money (I'm looking at you Muffin factory and the united). I'm a pirate but I'm in 0.0 so I've not had the chance to try the new low sec after FW, I guess I'd be screwed pretty bad by superior numbers =D I don't pirate for profit, I pirate for fights.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:23:00 - [24] FW has definitely changed lowsec forever. The jury's still out as to whether or not what we see now will still be what we're fighting three months from today, or if its going to completely kill the pirate profession of. Time will tell. Goal Line Blitz, an American Football browser game.
Damned Force Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:26:00 - [25] yes FW is destroying the last fun pvp. 0.0 is boring because blob, so thats because most hardcore pvp-ers goes into lowsec to pirating and have fun with 5-10 man gangs to maybe attack an another 5-10 man gang. Now with FW devs pushed 200 man blobs into this part of the game and so destroying the last small gang pvp possibility. i hate that this looser devs cant think out of box and see before a change what would be the consequence
Tommy Reslin Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:29:00 - [26] Edited by: Tommy Reslin on 14/06/2008 11:29:28 Originally by: Damned Force yes FW is destroying the last fun pvp. 0.0 is boring because blob, so thats because most hardcore pvp-ers goes into lowsec to pirating and have fun with 5-10 man gangs to maybe attack an another 5-10 man gang. Now with FW devs pushed 200 man blobs into this part of the game and so destroying the last small gang pvp possibility. i hate that this looser devs cant think out of box and see before a change what would be the consequence Yet.. during the few days of Fw I've done 5 v 15 10 v 10 10 v 15 20 v 20 and of course lopsided blobby matches (although, 15 is borderline blob) what do you consider small scale? I've already done all sorts of group type pvp. I've done anywhere from 5 to 90 something. Heck, I got jumped while scanning a planet and ended up in a 1 v 1.
Hot Fudge Sweet -N- Creamy	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:33:00 - [27] The thing I find kinda funny about the pirates in low sec is the flashy red ones are being popped left and right, lol. It's like revenge of the carebears, he he he.
Kelli Flay	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:33:00 - [28] Originally by: hedfunk Edited by: hedfunk on 14/06/2008 11:07:38 Originally by: Kelli Flay Originally by: RuleoftheBone OP: Piracy/Outlaw does not always mean gate-camps. Seeing a couple outlaws on a gate does not mean a camp either....possibly they are waiting for a scout report from the next system? The big blobs are reserved for alliances and now FW parties...the more you know right . While there has been a reasonable increase in losec activity (outside of the Black Rise area which I am avoiding atm) the majority of targets are T1 junk not worth the aggro timer or blob risk for the little loot they might drop. The actual hunters in the game (as opposed to the "Duck Hunt" adherents) are still around....watching....waiting. We engage on our terms...not yours . Try again. Lots of Militia guys are flying T2 fitted ships, Hacs, BCs, BS ect. I guess the Pirates excuse now for being cowards is that there is nothing worth shooting at. I'm sure if it was close to an even fight, i.e 10vs 10 or even 10vs 15 the pirates would engage. But as said earlier in this thread, there's fleets of 200+ ppl going about, and you're calling pirates cowards for not engaging? What? Don't even bring up an "even fight" issue when these guys in the past got their jollies off of killing a solo Industrial trying to get through one of their gatecamps and then afterwards, came onto this forum and called Empire players "noobs" and "carebears" who are too afraid to PvP or come to Low Sec. Not that what they were doing before was really PvP. More like "whack a mole" or camping spawns at the gate. That being said, i know that there are some skilled pirates. I am mostly talking about the morons who have been running their mouthes and beating their chests on this board for years. The skilled pirates mainly keep their traps shut and do what they do quietly. Those players never felt to whine on these forums about not having enough targets or how "Empire bears get rich without enough risk."
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:40:00 - [29] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2008 11:41:58 I sense much anger towards piratez. Faction Warfare changes the game a lot, and in my opinion its a needed and very positive change. A lot of players seem to be enjoying pvp for the first time in a long time. This is one change CCP should be proud of finally implementing. --- Its dead, Jim.
RuleoftheBone Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:42:00 - [30] Don't get me wrong...I think the FW thing overall is a good thing . Bear in mind I am completely funded via combat ops...so you will pardon me if I avoid the blobs. Trading a Rapier for a couple junk kills is stupid business. Personally I am stocking up on a few Thrashers, Rifters, and other T1 pap just for a bit of fun interupting the small-scale plex fights. Otherwise I am just going about my normal roaming activities . "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA



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