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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:33:00 -
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Damnit, why did you break my game? It used to be that I would log in and stare at the hangar for 20minutes thinking about skills i might use some time down the road . After that i spent 20minutes looking at my isk flow and reserve and what i had in stock. Then I'd either farm a mission in disgust or i would head to lowsec hoping to find something,anything to shoot at. Those days are long gone and I have only you to blame.
Now a days I log in quickly check my skills,ignore my isk altogether cause i know i have more then plenty on my primary and twice as much on an alt or more. I have to see this damn annoying flashing channel called "amarr militia"(wtghey is that about?) with all these noobs talking about pwning some slaves and crap. I feel like back in rookie channel. The only difference is these guys are working together instead of asking questions with obvious answers.
I throw up an X because everyone else is doing it(surprised im not in caldari militia channel..odd) and get invited. whats that about? Anyways they say they are headed to some system in lowsec and im thinking "these noobs are sooo doomed,the pirates are gonna *****em good". I undock so i can follow them and lol at their miserable demise. Sometimes we make a few jokes and have a laugh normally at mimtards' expense. we jump around 10 system evading the omnipresent,invisible pirate swarms that were promising swift death when FW is released.
After dodging shadows we end up having "fake pvp" because all the "real pvp" requires 300mil isk of gear and 100mil SP just to be considered a noob in realpvp. After our fake pvp we might go after useless,waste of time "objectives" in the name of the empire, what is this wow,eq?
When we realize that our fake pewpew was meaningless and that we aren't playing wow we head back to our staging area and disband only to repeat the process. such foolishness indeed! We all know theres no fun to be had if your pod with no implants costs more then your ship and fittings!
This game used to be 99% solo-mmo because you shouldn't be able to work together with people without verifying their RL name and address and a promise to break their knees if they try anything funny in game. You used to make us practice what our parents always told us ,"dont talk to strangers". now people are chatting it up in addition to flying around in lowsec,home of ebil uber pirates and isk and minimum sp requirements seem to be out the window,WTF?!
I miss the game that made me feel like i was walking down the dirtiest,darkest alleyway of Compton at 3am with a big bag of money everytime i logged in. I miss wondering if it was even worth logging in.
damn you ccp, you made me actually have carefree fun while still retaining the element of risk but adding in an overal sense of community and teamplay. you reduced the level of paranoia down to wondering if that unaligned shuttle or nubship is a spy. you made me actually hang out and talk with strangers and have fun capturing plexes for points which gives me no isk or prizes for showing up but somehow makes me want to spend the time and risk some isk to take it with these random crews.
damn you... you broke my game...and i Frakin <3 it.I <3 the small random,constant fights and sense of empire that has taken shape in just days. yeah the game lags but it gives me a reason to play the game to notice the lag.i lol at the idea of cruising in lowsec with a load of hostiles in system and blowing through their gate camp and picking on ships that made a bad move.
w hat i do hate honestly is not getting a KM when empire npcs kill a ship I also helped beat down. Not having an empire wide Killboard or getting cred for kills i helped with on the militia office board.
Other then that , GFrakingG on FW. This is deffinitely what i had always wished EVE was like from the start. it has the elements of PS i <3d and applied it to eve.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2008 11:45:35
Ive never seen so much positive feedback over a game change in a long time. Its refreshing. :)
Congratulations to CCP for adding a feature lots of people are now enjoying. I know a lot of features from previous patches that mostly brought frustration because they were pre-nerfed and not worthwhile, so this is a step in the right direction.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:55:00 -
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Aw c'mon guys, faction warfare is failsauce. Remember? Everybody already said so like 2 weeks ago...
Nobody's participating because alliances can't join, it makes no RP sense and anyway you guys are just getting camped back into the stone age by pirates because you're all newbie carebears who are scared by the sounds your guns make.
Jeez, you'd think you people just don't read the forums at all.  ___________________________________________
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searchingforcashflow
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:59:00 -
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CCP> "damn FW, they're going all in LS" CCP> "and they're gonna know that there are no pirates there" CCP> "we're doomed" ISD> "no pirates in LS?" CCP> "..." ISD> "YOU LIED TO ME D:" CCP> "no there are really ebil pirates in ls" GM> "hey oh" ISD> "I'M GONNA GO CUT MYSELF AND LISTEN TO SOME LINKIN PARK" GM> "lol why?" ISD> "BECAUSE CCP LIED TO ME" ISD> "THERE ARE NO PIRATES IN LS" GM> "NO PIRATES IN LS?" CCP> "oh damn..." ISD> "BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW" GM> "BAAAAAWWWWWWW" BOB> "BAAAAWWWWWWW"
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose Aw c'mon guys, faction warfare is failsauce. Remember? Everybody already said so like 2 weeks ago...
Nobody's participating because alliances can't join, it makes no RP sense and anyway you guys are just getting camped back into the stone age by pirates because you're all newbie carebears who are scared by the sounds your guns make.
Jeez, you'd think you people just don't read the forums at all. 
how did all those nostradumbazes KNOW how hard FW was going to fail? i really wish ccp just listened to the all knowing whiners on the forum and shelved FW even though it was completed. did CCP forget that the customer is always right even when they make no damn sense at all?
man, lowsec is twice as dead as it used to be. ccp has no idea how to make fun content...ever! the game..is broken!
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Brother Welcome
Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:04:00 -
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I am enjoying this feature too. It's less grievous than 0.0 war, and more fun.
-BW
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Shagrath Neptune
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:05:00 -
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A couple of times before FW came out, i considered canceling EvE. Basically, i was stuck in a rut of constant lvl 4 mission running. Even though I accomplished all there is in running missions, I just kept doing them because the only other alternatives were going back to 0.0 which I didn't enjoy all that much when I tried it before or join an Empire corp that probably is wanting and trying to get into a 0.0 alliance ..lol.
I am glad I stuck with it now. It is almost like a new game. FW isn't perfect and I hope CCP continues to improve it but now i actually look forward to logging on again. CCP rightfully gets credit for it's creation but the empire players on all four sides should be thanked too for making this work as well as it has and making it fun.
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Strak Yogorn
Mind Warpers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:20:00 -
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consider this.. this expansion brought content that everyone can enjoy, not just 00 alliance drones ... maybe thats the reason of the positive posts :)
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shagrath Neptune A couple of times before FW came out, i considered canceling EvE. Basically, i was stuck in a rut of constant lvl 4 mission running. Even though I accomplished all there is in running missions, I just kept doing them because the only other alternatives were going back to 0.0 which I didn't enjoy all that much when I tried it before or join an Empire corp that probably is wanting and trying to get into a 0.0 alliance ..lol.
I am glad I stuck with it now. It is almost like a new game. FW isn't perfect and I hope CCP continues to improve it but now i actually look forward to logging on again. CCP rightfully gets credit for it's creation but the empire players on all four sides should be thanked too for making this work as well as it has and making it fun.
Man thats similar to my story cept for the first 6months was pure mining(really it was a vacation from planetside and mining was relaxing). after that it was skill training and build up to pvp. it was hard trying to recruit people into the corp when we had no 0.0 access. corp disbanded and joined an alliance as a group. that didnt go as we thought. later we all left and reformed the corp to wardec in empire/lowsec ganking with no desire to return to 0.0 life.
ive had a taste of what eve had to offer and always came to a point where i questioned why i was paying to play(work). In fact the only reason i stayed in eve before FW was because i could pay with isk since i didnt feel i was getting RL $s worth. I think the idea of "what if i come back and i didnt have skills training? ill be ****ed" even though i didnt know of anything that was going to make me get hyped about eve kept me resubbing after long skills finished. ive actually left several times already because of the problems that FW addressed perfectly.
Your right, gotta give CCP credit but also credit to the playerbase that has turned out in such numbers with vast amounts of enthusiasm. you gotta see a few people saying how they were afraid of pvp or are brand new and are now out there pewpewing and having a ball doing it. I know those guys are risking a setback that will actually be significant to them at this point but still out there. theres a number of us that can lose frigs,destroyers and cruisers all day long and not feel it to much, where our pods cost more then our ships.
I think people see the reason to join in on FW isnt for prizes and isk but for fun. I hope those that were complaining about that aspect before FW went live have come to realize whats was going to be the draw to FW without prizes and cash.
to me , this is what "Internet SPaceships" are all about. Before i kind of hated that term because even if i tried to pvp i ended up playing with spreadsheets ,boredto death.
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Karanth
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: searchingforcashflow CCP> "damn FW, they're going all in LS" CCP> "and they're gonna know that there are no pirates there" CCP> "we're doomed" ISD> "no pirates in LS?" CCP> "..." ISD> "YOU LIED TO ME D:" CCP> "no there are really ebil pirates in ls" GM> "hey oh" ISD> "I'M GONNA GO CUT MYSELF AND LISTEN TO SOME LINKIN PARK" GM> "lol why?" ISD> "BECAUSE CCP LIED TO ME" ISD> "THERE ARE NO PIRATES IN LS" GM> "NO PIRATES IN LS?" CCP> "oh damn..." ISD> "BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW" GM> "BAAAAAWWWWWWW" BOB> "BAAAAWWWWWWW"
This man/woman/thing speaks truth! Also, Linkin Park sucks, and failed at spelling properly.
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Shagrath Neptune
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: ShardowRhino
Originally by: Shagrath Neptune A couple of times before FW came out, i considered canceling EvE. Basically, i was stuck in a rut of constant lvl 4 mission running. Even though I accomplished all there is in running missions, I just kept doing them because the only other alternatives were going back to 0.0 which I didn't enjoy all that much when I tried it before or join an Empire corp that probably is wanting and trying to get into a 0.0 alliance ..lol.
I am glad I stuck with it now. It is almost like a new game. FW isn't perfect and I hope CCP continues to improve it but now i actually look forward to logging on again. CCP rightfully gets credit for it's creation but the empire players on all four sides should be thanked too for making this work as well as it has and making it fun.
Man thats similar to my story cept for the first 6months was pure mining(really it was a vacation from planetside and mining was relaxing). after that it was skill training and build up to pvp. it was hard trying to recruit people into the corp when we had no 0.0 access. corp disbanded and joined an alliance as a group. that didnt go as we thought. later we all left and reformed the corp to wardec in empire/lowsec ganking with no desire to return to 0.0 life.
ive had a taste of what eve had to offer and always came to a point where i questioned why i was paying to play(work). In fact the only reason i stayed in eve before FW was because i could pay with isk since i didnt feel i was getting RL $s worth. I think the idea of "what if i come back and i didnt have skills training? ill be ****ed" even though i didnt know of anything that was going to make me get hyped about eve kept me resubbing after long skills finished. ive actually left several times already because of the problems that FW addressed perfectly.
Your right, gotta give CCP credit but also credit to the playerbase that has turned out in such numbers with vast amounts of enthusiasm. you gotta see a few people saying how they were afraid of pvp or are brand new and are now out there pewpewing and having a ball doing it. I know those guys are risking a setback that will actually be significant to them at this point but still out there. theres a number of us that can lose frigs,destroyers and cruisers all day long and not feel it to much, where our pods cost more then our ships.
I think people see the reason to join in on FW isnt for prizes and isk but for fun. I hope those that were complaining about that aspect before FW went live have come to realize whats was going to be the draw to FW without prizes and cash.
to me , this is what "Internet SPaceships" are all about. Before i kind of hated that term because even if i tried to pvp i ended up playing with spreadsheets ,boredto death.
Actually, I started this character as a Miner too. It was relaxing but there is only so much mining and manufacturing you can do before being bored to tears. I then started mission running and that was fun for awhile and made me semi rich but that got old too. There is only so many times you can beat Worlds Collide before it gets tedious. Salvaging kept me interested in it for a bit longer though.
I subscribed to this game because I heard it was a pvp game but found out the PvP for Empire players is limited and 0.0 is a little too demanding for my tastes.
Until now that is. 
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Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:55:00 -
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can i have your .... oh wait 
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.06.14 12:58:00 -
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hahah, exactly how things went for me. I got sick of salvaging when i ran the numbers on how long i spent to do it to get a few parts . Then compared that time to what i would average by popping more rats in another mission if i were to not salvage.
ah,whats wrong with Linkin Park? Eh..okay some songs are a little to much but some are actually good.
Of course I wish Prodigy would make another cd like "The Fat of the Land". damn that would own....I have to say that is the closest thing to the perfect cd for me,nothing not even "Dig Your Own Hole" has gotten more spins. Since we are talkin about music .
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Plib
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:01:00 -
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The players were right about pirates being a problem as well. The damn' swine just keep themselves to themselves and avoid getting involved. Eventually if we target them they slink away in embarrassment. It's like they are scared of our sheer noobness and PvE abilities.
Until recently I was actually cautious about entering low-sec. Now I have many friends to fly with it's not half so scary. In fact once or twice I've flown off on my own just to try get a thrill.
CCP have ruined my game and now I keep having fun and flying anywhere I want to. I find that it's impossible to just wander around solo - people keep inviting me into gangs.
I demand you rollback FW and give me back the boring, pirate infested game I love 
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gfldex
Kabelkopp
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Ive never seen so much positive feedback over a game change in a long time. Its refreshing. :)
Would you risk a bet how long it will take until it swings around? :-> --
There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2008 13:13:12
Originally by: gfldex
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Ive never seen so much positive feedback over a game change in a long time. Its refreshing. :)
Would you risk a bet how long it will take until it swings around? :->
When the sun shines, I dont think about the coming rain. I think after a few weeks, people will start to complain about whatever it is that they cant handle in faction warfare im sure. :)
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Ive never seen so much positive feedback over a game change in a long time. Its refreshing. :)
I concur. There has been a disturbing lack of "nerf X" threads lately. It's almost as if people are busy playing the game and having fun .. clearly a completely failed expansion attempt by CCP :D
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gfldex
Kabelkopp
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:11:00 -
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Given that it's raining here in town I would like to make a prediction of the next upcoming whine: "PvP is to *beep*ing expensive!". (With demand of increased insurance, by the very same ppl that wanted to get rid of it because of suiciders. :)
I would even go so far to say it will hit this very forum within the next 2 weeks.
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There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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Beor0d
Congregatio Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: ShardowRhino
WALL OF TEXT
Do you think ppl gonna read that wall? _______________________ hmmm.... |

SCSPOOK
16th Interspacial Dynasty The 11th Hour
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: SCSPOOK on 14/06/2008 14:25:29
Originally by: Beor0d
Originally by: ShardowRhino
WALL OF TEXT
Do you think ppl gonna read that wall?
My name is SCSPOOK and I read the wall.
I'm not proud of myself, I have been reading walls almost since I started playing Eve. First it was a word, an explanation of an acronym. Then I moved on and one thing led to another.
Sentences, then paragraphs. Pretty soon I couldn't stop myself. My head would nod and my eyes start to bleed but I was hooked.
Its been about 1 post since my last wall.
Forgive me.
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex Given that it's raining here in town I would like to make a prediction of the next upcoming whine: "PvP is to *beep*ing expensive!". (With demand of increased insurance, by the very same ppl that wanted to get rid of it because of suiciders. :)
I would even go so far to say it will hit this very forum within the next 2 weeks.
I doubt that ISK accumulated over years of mining / missioning will be burned in only 2 weeks on only T1 cruisers.
However, they will eventually want to fly T2 ships in PVP and get the skills for them. Also, ISK is worthless if you can't buy ships and mods for it because the industry can't keep up with the increased demand.
All I'm saying is: Give your prophecy a few months instead of 2 weeks to come true ... and only if no other change happens which plugs the ISK and material sink (such as some ridiculously high rewards for FW - in that case, say goodbye to the player-controlled industry and market of EVE).
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2008.06.14 17:04:00 -
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If T1 ships and mods start getting expensive (it's hard to imagine, I know, but shortages are already cropping up in systems near the front lines) you may see FW militias spearheading heavily-defended mining ops in low sec to fuel their own production. I'm 100% sure that FC commanders are already working on the logistics to give away unlimited free T1 ships so that people can jump back into hot fights.
The "blob of caracals" effect will fade as people gain confidence in their fleet commanders and remember all the cool things they can do in better iron, but smart FCs will never forget that a blob of small T1 ships makes an excellent bait ball and sticky anvil against which to hammer attackers. The ready availability of enthusiastic newbies will be a unique resource that FCs will never fail to exploit, even as they put together more capable gangs to handle specific tactical goals.
This game has CHANGED. I was a FW skeptic, and there's still a lot of uncertainty about how it will shake out, but it' a whole new ballgame out in low sec. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |

Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.14 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2008 17:15:45
Originally by: Marlenus If T1 ships and mods start getting expensive (it's hard to imagine, I know, but shortages are already cropping up in systems near the front lines) you may see FW militias spearheading heavily-defended mining ops in low sec to fuel their own production. I'm 100% sure that FC commanders are already working on the logistics to give away unlimited free T1 ships so that people can jump back into hot fights.
The "blob of caracals" effect will fade as people gain confidence in their fleet commanders and remember all the cool things they can do in better iron, but smart FCs will never forget that a blob of small T1 ships makes an excellent bait ball and sticky anvil against which to hammer attackers. The ready availability of enthusiastic newbies will be a unique resource that FCs will never fail to exploit, even as they put together more capable gangs to handle specific tactical goals.
This game has CHANGED. I was a FW skeptic, and there's still a lot of uncertainty about how it will shake out, but it' a whole new ballgame out in low sec.
I agree, it changes everything. Even character skillpoints are not as important anymore, or ship setups. What matters the most with faction warfare is good leadership and information gathering, so its much more about personal skill and teamwork than ever before.
A newbie to the game with 1 mill skillpoints could show to be a fantastic leader and strategist, leading to lots of victories for his gang.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Beor0d
Originally by: ShardowRhino
WALL OF TEXT
Do you think ppl gonna read that wall?
My name is mothermoon and I read that wall of text.
p.s.(he used paragraphs so it's not a wall of text you fail at trying to use a meme)
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Tai Paktu
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.06.14 17:16:00 -
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70m SP+ =/= end game. I've repeatedly watched gangs of nano HACs, snipers and random BS' be taken apart by roaming (I'll admit) blobs of militia in crappy T1 ships. While I do wish blob warfare could be toned down and though that that was a goal of EA, it's pretty clear that it's gotten people into PvP, which is a good thing.

(stealth pirate boosts ftw) ______
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.06.14 18:05:00 -
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I lolled at the failed "wall of text" attempt. Sentences,punctuation and paragraphs can be overwhelming to some people. I find it funny that hes the only one that complains about the "wall of text" and asks if anyone else would read it. Gotta love noobs that can't be bothered to read the other posts replying to my "wall of text". 
Are people going to complain about FW soon? Probably not and if they do its bound to be asking for even more. More objectives,more ways to distinguish themselves such as medals for x achievements.
An achievement could be bagging X amount of kills while in a T1 frigate, the award would show their proficiency with frigates. There could be various levels of those awards to show how 1337 they are with that class of ship. There would need to be some rules to try and prevent players from cheesing their way to awards.
Would additional medals get the attention of FW players? I think so. It might not be anything more then epeen but once people get a taste of competition and goals ,epeen awards can make monsters out of players. Players would push the limits of a t1 frig as far as possible to bag the most kills with them. You could have a billionaire that uses nothing but frigs for no reason other then epeen and reputation.
People might complain about blobs but from my experience people will start to detest the blob and want to form "1337" groups that are small and specialized that do their own thing but in a way that benifits the empire. Also players are going to realize that 1 blob has absolutely no element of surprise or maneuver. A blob is only good for attacking or defending a single target but completely helpless against smaller,cordinated attacks in numerous places at once. So players will fix the problem they created themselves on their own.
Shortages won't be long lived. Remember that a lot of players that are in FW might have been miners and they will see that they can make a few isk,feed their own habits and help their empire by taking a day off from pvping to mine and manufacture. There won't be a need for FCs/wannabeFCs to worry about it. I know people will fill in the gaps because I have seen it happen in every system I have ever sold anything in. Give it a week and you will see t2 ships sitting on the front line market place in addition to a glut of average priced t1 ships and gear.
However anything anyone has suggested so far as what will be the next whine, it has all been player created problems. I wouldn't even say they are problems as CCP is looking to expand on FW and players are getting their feet wet in FW. Give them time and the blobs and lack of equipment on the market at the front will start to correct itself.
A prime example of why people blob and what will happen after a while was posted in the thread. Sorry I can't check your name while replying but he mentioned that he was afraid of lowsec. After some time in lowsec with friends he got bolder and started to fly solo for the thrill of it. That will start to happen more often and smaller groups will be created.
Right now we are seeing blobs for the security in numbers . That security is what a lot of new pvpers need right now but they mature on their own. Not to say blob is immature or unneccesary.Blob will become nothing more then an option just like small roaming gangs. Therefore its safe to assume that we won't see blob warfare dominating FW. It will become a permanent aspect but not the only aspect.
FW won't become "expensive" unless a player wishes it to be otherwise it can be as cheap as you want it to be. Not everyone is going to be looking for command ships,some will but others might find a class of ship they love and at a price they can easily afford.
People should stop trying to forcast the demise of FW in their crystal ball. Instead just go out there and have fun with FW or resume your normal activities. Its obvious people like FW so why bother complaining about it?
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Cadman Weyland
The Iced Tea And Scones
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Posted - 2008.06.14 19:29:00 -
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I really like the look of the new FW but in all honesty i dont have much time to play of late. Is it possible just too dabble in the FW side of things or not ? is it as intensive as 0.0 pvp, i loved that, but had to pack it in for a real life.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.14 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2008 19:30:53
Originally by: Cadman Weyland I really like the look of the new FW but in all honesty i dont have much time to play of late. Is it possible just too dabble in the FW side of things or not ? is it as intensive as 0.0 pvp, i loved that, but had to pack it in for a real life.
Just join a militia and check the militia channel. You will see gangs looking for people right away. You can be off to contested space in 5 minutes with some luck.
Of course, sometimes your blob wont find another blob to exchange led with, but its still kind of fun to scout around too.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Shagrath Neptune
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex Given that it's raining here in town I would like to make a prediction of the next upcoming whine: "PvP is to *beep*ing expensive!". (With demand of increased insurance, by the very same ppl that wanted to get rid of it because of suiciders. :)
I would even go so far to say it will hit this very forum within the next 2 weeks.
You are right. There will probably be some people who don't manage their isk well and go bankrupt on FW and then whine. Not everyone has an isk making alt or time to make it isks on their mains.
However, if people use the Plat insurance and stick to ships which aren't too expensive, they really shouldn't be having this problem.
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Ringo Jeicha
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:55:00 -
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So eve became fun again?
/me reactivates his accounts 
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