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Apocryphai Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.06.18 11:02:00 - [91] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime It appears to me that the "n00bs" in EVE are having a great time doing missions and upgrading their ships without having to really be involved with the community, let alone form/join a corporation. Oh no, people are having fun in EVE and I can't stop them! Originally by: Jaabaa Prime so that people will see that EVE isn't a cake walk. JP Yeah! Damn CCP and they're stupid ideas to make their game fun to play! I demand that you force new players to have a really crappy time! That'll learn 'em for having the cheek to be new players in MY game, AND enjoying themselves at the same time! How dare theY!11 ________________________________________________________________ Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
Jaabaa Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.18 22:40:00 - [92] Edited by: Jaabaa on 18/06/2008 22:39:59 -- EVE Mobile Skill Planner V3 !! http://evemsp.sourceforge.net/
Jaabaa Prime Quam Singulari Warp to Desktop	Posted - 2008.06.18 22:40:00 - [93] Originally by: Apocryphai Originally by: Jaabaa Prime It appears to me that the "n00bs" in EVE are having a great time doing missions and upgrading their ships without having to really be involved with the community, let alone form/join a corporation. Oh no, people are having fun in EVE and I can't stop them! Originally by: Jaabaa Prime so that people will see that EVE isn't a cake walk. JP Yeah! Damn CCP and they're stupid ideas to make their game fun to play! I demand that you force new players to have a really crappy time! That'll learn 'em for having the cheek to be new players in MY game, AND enjoying themselves at the same time! How dare theY!11 Basically, I think you are wrong on so many points. It used to be that going to 0.0 and low security space actually improved your income. Now, a lot of the EVE community are asking themselves "Why bother ? I can earn just as much doing missions in safe empire space.". That is IMO the wrong mind set for EVE. --
Venkul Mul	Posted - 2008.06.18 23:23:00 - [94] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Basically, I think you are wrong on so many points. It used to be that going to 0.0 and low security space actually improved your income. Now, a lot of the EVE community are asking themselves "Why bother ? I can earn just as much doing missions in safe empire space.". That is IMO the wrong mind set for EVE. The point is that you have decide what is the right mindset for EVE, and is your mindset, all other players are wrong if don't conform to what you feel is right. You know what? That is the mindset of a child "The game is mine, so you should follow my rules".
Zinras Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.06.18 23:26:00 - [95] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Originally by: Apocryphai Originally by: Jaabaa Prime It appears to me that the "n00bs" in EVE are having a great time doing missions and upgrading their ships without having to really be involved with the community, let alone form/join a corporation. Oh no, people are having fun in EVE and I can't stop them! Originally by: Jaabaa Prime so that people will see that EVE isn't a cake walk. JP Yeah! Damn CCP and they're stupid ideas to make their game fun to play! I demand that you force new players to have a really crappy time! That'll learn 'em for having the cheek to be new players in MY game, AND enjoying themselves at the same time! How dare theY!11 Basically, I think you are wrong on so many points. It used to be that going to 0.0 and low security space actually improved your income. Now, a lot of the EVE community are asking themselves "Why bother ? I can earn just as much doing missions in safe empire space.". That is IMO the wrong mind set for EVE. And thus why you're on the receiving end of plenty of sarcastic comments. You're basically saying that a very large group of the total population is playing the game in the wrong way, which does indeed roughly translate into "people are having fun in a way that does not increase the level of fun I have in the game and thus they're all wrong". So if I'm way off on that translation, please elaborate Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Esmenet	Posted - 2008.06.19 01:47:00 - [96] Originally by: Zinras Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Originally by: Apocryphai Originally by: Jaabaa Prime It appears to me that the "n00bs" in EVE are having a great time doing missions and upgrading their ships without having to really be involved with the community, let alone form/join a corporation. Oh no, people are having fun in EVE and I can't stop them! Originally by: Jaabaa Prime so that people will see that EVE isn't a cake walk. JP Yeah! Damn CCP and they're stupid ideas to make their game fun to play! I demand that you force new players to have a really crappy time! That'll learn 'em for having the cheek to be new players in MY game, AND enjoying themselves at the same time! How dare theY!11 Basically, I think you are wrong on so many points. It used to be that going to 0.0 and low security space actually improved your income. Now, a lot of the EVE community are asking themselves "Why bother ? I can earn just as much doing missions in safe empire space.". That is IMO the wrong mind set for EVE. And thus why you're on the receiving end of plenty of sarcastic comments. You're basically saying that a very large group of the total population is playing the game in the wrong way, which does indeed roughly translate into "people are having fun in a way that does not increase the level of fun I have in the game and thus they're all wrong". So if I'm way off on that translation, please elaborate No he is saying that the concept of risk/reward is currently broken for the average grunt.
Mr Kindjal 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.19 01:56:00 - [97] Love these threads. How about we remove all moons, all t2 ships, all t2 modules, pos and outposts. Then remove all agents. Remove insurance, remove local too. Remove warp to zero. Remove the pulse nerf. What if your mom says hi?
RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2008.06.19 01:58:00 - [98] Edited by: RigelKentaurus on 19/06/2008 01:59:03 Originally by: Esmenet No he is saying that the concept of risk/reward is currently broken for the average grunt. It's because it has turned into boredom/reward. Now (boredom+risk)/reward would drive away PVEers. Nothing can be done without completely reworking the way missions work (i.e. the concept of PVE fitting must die). _________ Someday, EVE may look like this.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2008.06.19 02:17:00 - [99] I'm getting bored of hisec mission running. I'll be starting PvP just as soon as I can afford a jump clone. So don't worry, not everyone sees a life farming ISK as the be all and end-all of EVE.
Harry Sachs	Posted - 2008.06.19 02:38:00 - [100] Did you see the post about making 10-40bil per week doing 0.0 plexes? Is that high enough for you? Remember back when plexes were broken and every 10/10 plex would make a billion or more per run? EVE isn't about solo play, so surely you must count dysp moons which are deep 0.0 only. Apparently there are also some 3bil ISK NPC trade routes...BoB used to run them when their empire was larger.... The list goes on. Risk vs. Reward is only 'messed up' when it comes to the different ores...but that seems unavoidable.

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