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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:26:00 -
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We are aware of problems that players are having connecting to Tranquility.
Specifically this thread and the amount of petitions our GMs are getting indicates there is a problem.
We will keep you updated and our Operations team are pulling out all the stops to get you this information.
We ask for your understanding and patience in the meanwhile.
You may wish to view the current state of the net's health, this is not a local issue.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Billy Sastard
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Billy Sastard on 20/06/2008 00:30:21
Thanks for the official word.
and
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:30:00 -
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Thanks for the Update. I've had nothing but problems since today's patch after downtime. Hope you guys find a quick solution.
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:31:00 -
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Thanks for your efforts.
Whatever it is, it's getting worse. Dc'd thrice in 5 minutes now.
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Theocrates
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:32:00 -
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the issue is here
***By coffee alone I set my mind in motion, by the beans of Java thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, by coffee alone I set my mind in motion.*** |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:35:00 -
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I know every little bit of info helps. So here is what we have from our end.
- Only affecting our U.S. players. Im on the East coast and Kick on the West. We are losing connection a lot.
- Neither of us installed the patch, so it does not have anything to do with that.
-Im not on Saviss or Sprint, but am on ATT.
I hope this little bit helps out your investigation.
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Rob Rectum
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:37:00 -
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montreal canada here Sympatico Bell isp. You theory have no sense
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Aramanan
Silvermoon Industrial Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:39:00 -
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Who would have known the South Park eppisode concerning the internet dying was a prediction.
Maybe someone should shout hit the internets reset button with a large paperclip.
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Nenai Nemutaimus
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:40:00 -
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Verizon on Line DSL here - Disconnected continuously over past three or four hours - a least 8 DC. Pennsylvania, USA. Really makes plying unpleasant if not practically impossible. I hope this gets fixed pronto. Giving up for the day.
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Sirius88
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:40:00 -
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plz fix..
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Theocrates
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:40:00 -
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The severe latency on the affected networks would affect any packet crossing nodes under their control. Any packet routed across 2 or more links, say close to the London DC where the Eve cluster is located, would be delayed or "lost". This would be true regardless of the packets point of origin.
***By coffee alone I set my mind in motion, by the beans of Java thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, by coffee alone I set my mind in motion.*** |
Kimiyo Ishikawa
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:47:00 -
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That second link doesn't mean anything to me. Can someone translate into english?
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Trig Onami
Royal Mayham
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:50:00 -
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It means the ALIENS invaded Chicago, Illinois internet hub. Which is 25% of USA/Canada population are cut off from the world.. The worse part: we can't contact them.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:52:00 -
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The server disconnects feel like packet loss to me, which means all of those affected must be going through that Level3 path, as it's the only one that's dropping packets.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:57:00 -
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Here come all the armchair technicians. 
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Treean
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Posted - 2008.06.20 00:59:00 -
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It appears to be centralized around 80.91.251.17 & 213.248.65.89 which are London gateway paths for US users to Tranq. I'm seeing cumulative packet losses of 20-40% intermittently between these 2 hops.
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Zifrian
GFB Scientific
Interstellar Corporate Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:04:00 -
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In Washington DC and having intermittent drops and lag. Sometimes I make it through, sometimes not. Just on Autopilot right now too.
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Vengal Seyhan
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Treean
It appears to be centralized around 80.91.251.17 & 213.248.65.89 which are London gateway paths for US users to Tranq. I'm seeing cumulative packet losses of 20-40% intermittently between these 2 hops.
Not just the US. I'm in Aussieland and I'm having exactly the same problem. (And apparently there are others as well - hearing reports of an Australian-based FC that's getting dumped every five minutes.... not fun while PvPing.)
It's probably affecting anyone outside of continental Europe.
CCP, pls fix the internet 
PS - I'd really like it if, in a future release, you have a look at how the game handles instances of dropped signal like this: I'm guessing a lot of people will be losing ships because they'll be persisting in the game after their connection dies.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:13:00 -
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Quote:
It's probably affecting anyone outside of continental Europe.
It's not. I'm in australia as well and actually getting surprisingly good performance
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Shiloe
Federal Bureau of Peacekeepers
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shiloe on 20/06/2008 01:21:00
I'm in a Corp that is multi-national, so far people with the connection problem tonight are from Central-US, UK, Bulgaria and New Zealand. This appears to be worldwide and not localized to a specific country. No one reports having this connection problem prior to this mornings Downtime.
Other members in the same locales listed, other than the one we have in Bulgaria, report no connectivity disconnects, but everyone is experiencing higher occurances of lag.
Hope this helps.
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Seeker Danonai
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:25:00 -
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Still discoing very often. Lost a probe for it (only a probe, I know, but I'm a newbie). Seems to me that it's only disconnecting from EVE, not sure what that means though because my knowledge of interweb workings is negligible.
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Capt Aaron
Heaven's Harvesters
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:32:00 -
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thanks dev team sorry I got mad
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 01:58:00 -
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"We ask for your understanding and patience in the meanwhile."
They've been saying this sence beta.
When are you guys gonna actually fix the connectivity and lag issues?
5 years and counting and you wanna add even more ?
someone over there in iceland is smoking too much dope.
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SirSpectre
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
"We ask for your understanding and patience in the meanwhile."
They've been saying this sence beta.
When are you guys gonna actually fix the connectivity and lag issues?
5 years and counting and you wanna add even more ?
someone over there in iceland is smoking too much dope.
Dude... I bet if CCP could fix this, they would. You are asking them to fix the internet. Last I heard "the internet" is not CCP's product, Eve is. Eve is fine and working, well good enough. Once you can cure cancer from your computer using a mouse and keyboard and any crumbs from inside your keyboard, CCP will be able to fix the internet.
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Jin So
Red Mercury Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
I know every little bit of info helps. So here is what we have from our end.
- Only affecting our U.S. players. Im on the East coast and Kick on the West. We are losing connection a lot.
- Neither of us installed the patch, so it does not have anything to do with that.
-Im not on Saviss or Sprint, but am on ATT.
I hope this little bit helps out your investigation.
WildCat
Even though you don' thvae their service, yout isp is still going to use that backbone or server to make a connection to else where. So if there is a bottle neck at those to servers/backbones. Then at that point packets will be dropped and the server will more then likly go into a piroity mode, mean only important stuff will go throught (in theory)
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:14:51
apparently voicing dissatisfaction with a sub-standard service, and obvious improper allocation of company resources, isn't allowed.
paying customers aren't allowed to speak up it seems.
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Shinux
The Really Awesome Players
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:23:00 -
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You have every right to post garbage, and others have every right to point out your inacuracies - this is how internet works. As for connection issues, that is how internet doesn't work.
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Jin So
Red Mercury Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:26:00 -
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I removed the optional patch and logged back and for now i have not been disconnected, it may be the patch or a connection problem.
i did a tracrt and there was heavy latency once it got to the overseas area. I am in South Central USA
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:14:51
apparently voicing dissatisfaction with a sub-standard service, and obvious improper allocation of company resources, isn't allowed.
paying customers aren't allowed to speak up it seems.
I bet you get crappy service from a lot of people don't you?
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Tsunasis
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:14:51
apparently voicing dissatisfaction with a sub-standard service, and obvious improper allocation of company resources, isn't allowed.
paying customers aren't allowed to speak up it seems.
The product CCP provides isn't substandard, and it is NOT causing your disconnects. I'm a USA customer who has the good fortune to be on the Verizon backbone instead of either Sprint or Savvis, but Sprint and Savvis are the problems, not EvE. Your wrath is misplaced - CCP can't fix a pair of network backbones owned by a pair of the largest communications providers in the world. And since those communications providers are currently pretty deep in it, I doubt there's anything they aren't currently throwing at this problem.
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Kimiyo Ishikawa
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:34:00 -
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For the last time, could someone please tell me how to figure out which backbone I'm using to connect to EVE?
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:38:37
no.. you guys don't get it
I'm saying that motherships, titans, ambulation, factional warfare, 2 or 3 expansions and loads of other content isn't what this game needs.
This game needs whoever puts the money into the content developers hands, that guy needs to be fired.
I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.
This game markets itself on fleet vs fleet warfare... Look at the banner on the home page of eve... I don't see small gangs on that banner. Nor do I see them anywhere else on the net. Everywhere you see a eve-online ad its marketed as a huge battle between tons of players.
What those ads don't show you is the drops, and the slide show, and frustrated gamers who lost their ship because they could not activate their modules... THAT is eve-online.
And until the company starts living up to the marketing that they create, this game will be broken.
That's all I was saying.
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SirSpectre
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 20/06/2008 02:38:37
no.. you guys don't get it
I'm saying that motherships, titans, ambulation, factional warfare, 2 or 3 expansions and loads of other content isn't what this game needs.
This game needs whoever puts the money into the content developers hands, that guy needs to be fired.
I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.
This game markets itself on fleet vs fleet warfare... Look at the banner on the home page of eve... I don't see small gangs on that banner. Nor do I see them anywhere else on the net. Everywhere you see a eve-online ad its marketed as a huge battle between tons of players.
What those ads don't show you is the drops, and the slide show, and frustrated gamers who lost their ship because they could not activate their modules... THAT is eve-online.
And until the company starts living up to the marketing that they create, this game will be broken.
That's all I was saying.
So then why are you complaining in a thread about connection issues? Go make your own thread else where.
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:41:00 -
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You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?
I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.
And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.
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Feng Schui
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:46:00 -
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Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 14 ms 8 ms 9 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms gig2-3.dytnoh2-ybr1.woh.rr.com [24.29.160.133]
4 12 ms 7 ms 9 ms srp13-1.dytnoh1-rtr1.woh.rr.com [24.29.160.43]
5 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms son0-0-3.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [65.25.128
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6 32 ms 27 ms 30 ms ae-4-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.68]
7 50 ms 25 ms 26 ms ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
8 29 ms 27 ms 28 ms tge2-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [68.142.72.221]
9 26 ms 27 ms 24 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 51 ms 39 ms 43 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 * 113 ms 119 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
12 111 ms 120 ms 110 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 116 ms 111 ms 111 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 120 ms 116 ms 110 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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BobbyCarter
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?
I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.
And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.
I won't say anything about your connection or computer, but I will say that my first and only drops have occured today. Been playing for ny a year now. I've never dropped, even in Jita with 700+ people, although I'll admit that lag is evident there.
If you're upset about the direction EVE is taking, this is not the place to do it. Not only is it off-topic, it's very unlikely to be given it's due credence because higher powers will attribute it to dissatifaction about the current situation, which it clearly isn't.
Make a thread if you're that upset about it. Personally I love the way EVE is going, but I suppose a more stable network code could help for the largest corporate wars.
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Norwest
Prima Civitas
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?
I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.
And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.
I hate to feed to troll, but what internet are you on?
On every game I've ever played online, from Starcraft to counterstrike to Team fortress to EVE, disconnects are a reality, and something to be lived with. The problem isn't on CCP's end, it's the data getting lost on the way there and back.
On topic, my friends who play Second Life, WoW and City of Heroes are reporting much the same issues as being voiced here.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
I've been in this game almost 3 years now.... and I've seen the connectivity issue and lag issue addressed once.
They've addressed it more than once. You must have missed all the news about hardware upgrades, Need for Speed, Infiniband, optimization patches, and all the other stuff they've done.
You've been in the game 3 years... 50 vs. 50 used to be almost impossible 3 years ago, now we have 200 vs. 200.
You have unrealistic expectations about everything that CCP doesn't have control over, and claiming that they should "fix" it. CPU's can only do so many ops per second, internet can only handle so much bandwidth, databases can only hold so many terabytes of data... what do you want?
From all the news and even screenshots of their data centers, they're pushing the cutting edge of computer technology to bring you this speed you want, and they're doing it with 250k accounts at still only $15 per month. Open your eyes and realize that what you're asking for is impossible. And quit, if the lag is oh so unbearable.
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:19:00 -
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Fine, if they are doing all they can to fix the problem, which I don't think they are... then lets see some advertisements of actual in-game footage of fleet warfare?
And to answer your question, the footage they use for trailers and ad's is not in-game.
why do you think that is??
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:22:00 -
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SW Florida seems fine. I haven't dropped once.
I know people from Texas and West Australia that are dropping constantly though.
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Lafine Zifer
Cskillzone
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:25:00 -
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im in ozy as well, and ive got this toon ctd heaps in last 24 hours, but my main has no probs, other than lag spikes at same time, same pc, 2 difrent clients
no rant here, just intell 
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:32:00 -
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Updated.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Batwigg
B and D
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Posted - 2008.06.20 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?
I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.
And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.
It IS your connection.
The last time I got dropped from the game was late 2007.
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 04:12:00 -
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Gee, seems like I'm not the only one
Is it all our connection?
Is everyone who's gotten dropped, is it always their fault?
I think not.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.06.20 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
Gee, seems like I'm not the only one
Yes, you are the only idiot in view at the moment. Originally by: BhallSpawn
I not think not.
Corrected your statement to fit with reality as you refuse to see it. As someone said, you seem to have issues with CCP. Take it up with them in an appropriate manner. In this thread here people are looking for information on their internet woes. Not listen to your woes over the internet. PS: Psychiatrist or hooker, don't care who you pay, one or the other might help you with your problem.
To Shar -verb:
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CaldariSlave
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:15:00 -
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Will CCP be reimbursing lost assets related to this connectivity problem?
Alot of players, myself included, lost some valuable stuff to this and it really sucks.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:43:00 -
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These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.
Wrangler
Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Haywoode Jablome
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Haywoode Jablome on 20/06/2008 13:53:44
nvm, PC problem...
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Ashley Sky
The Eleventh Commandment
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 -
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I think the problem here is the centralization of data servers.
I think this could be solved by having an EVE proxy service inside several major ISPs with a fast backbone to the main hub, and have the client do a QOS check to see which proxy is the quickest.
If you have ISP issues that go on long enough, you could then switch the direction of your proxy servers, fire up your disaster recovery site, and do a data merge when your ISP service is restored.
Isn't that what the 60 minutes of downtime per day is useful for?
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Madla Mafia
The Dead Man's Hand
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Posted - 2008.06.20 15:05:00 -
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All I know is that my internet in general, MSN Messenger, and all other internet dependent programs are working fine, except for Eve. Eve is disconnecting me about every 3-5 minutes. All the time!
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:33:00 -
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It's doing it again. Savvis is down across the board again. I'm having intermittent connectivity issues to CCP's servers.
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Saciol
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:47:00 -
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I started having a lot of dc's since 14h eastern time. Before that, all was working 100%. Now, I can barely stay on Eve for 10 minutes. Problem not solved :(
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Goremageddon Box
Soldiers Of Mercy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:52:00 -
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It's happening again.
Was good yesterday after 7ish for awhile.
Meh. Time Warner Cable here.
Question, to those being D/C.
do you run Vent?
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Thrawnfl
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:58:00 -
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still being disconnected alot, i've disconnected 9 times in the last 20 minutes.
my provider is Time Warner Cable
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Davich MacGregor
Interwarp Plexus
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Davich MacGregor on 20/06/2008 18:59:43
Originally by: Goremageddon Box
It's happening again.
Was good yesterday after 7ish for awhile.
Meh. Time Warner Cable here.
Question, to those being D/C.
do you run Vent?
Disconnected third time in five minutes >:(
Yes, vent installed but not running. When I did have it running i wasn't disconnected. I don't think vent is the issue.
No Time Warner either.
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Rhibhinn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:03:00 -
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Disconnected twice in 20 mins.
Not running Vent, TS or anything like that.
AT&T is the ISP.
I have a second connection to a server in New Jersey (from Missourri) that will drop just as easily as EVE and it is still running.
I would suspect it is a transatlantic issue, or a UK issue.
Ruf.
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:04:00 -
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It's not vent, it's not what's running or not running on your box. It's a peering issue with major carriers. They've been having issues with this for over 24 hours now. They appeared to fix it late yesterday but the issue has returned. A number of sprint interconnects are also starting to drop out.
I'd suggest doing something else for the rest of the day as you all are well aware of the fact that DCing makes playing next to impossible.
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Kyguard
Game-Over
Consortium Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:06:00 -
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Getting DC'd a lot, I'm using Rogers Cable (AT&T)
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Souma12
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Souma12 on 20/06/2008 19:09:07
im still getting disconnects and packet losses (lag spikes), im in mexico and not using any of the isp with the problems, maybe backbone issue?
Edit:
just got disconnected
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Jeanne D'Eve
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:08:00 -
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DC'd just a few minutes ago, making it the 3rd time today. I had never had connectivity problems till this last patch. What a coincidence. Is there a way to uninstall it?
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Bishop Stewart
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:10:00 -
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Ok. Since CCP and the fool fanboys who believe everything the corp tells them are adamant that the issue is with the Sprint and Savvis backbone, tell me this: How do you explain the European, Asian and Australian disconnects? I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they don't use those backbones? Or do you guys think that those two are used by the WHOLE world? That would explain the issues, at least.
So if you take all the little people having troubles and try to find a common denominator, guess what it would be?
Anyway, I've noticed something. Might be a coincidence, but if I don't use the chat window, I'm good for a while. I start to chat with someone, by the third or forth entry I go byebye.
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Doc Brown
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:11:00 -
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I've been getting disconnected all day. Within the last 30 min I have been DC'd three times. I think the ISP's are bs&^%ing you.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:12:00 -
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I read in the caldari militia chat that a bunch of people got disconnected just now too.
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Bishop Stewart
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:16:00 -
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Pssst! CCP!
When this crap happened to OSI with Ultima Online, it turned out that the login server was faulty and started kicking people at random when there were a certain amount of players in the game. They blamed it on the ISPs as well for two weeks.
Just a thought.
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Trente Reznor
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:17:00 -
[65]
Still disconnecting as well.
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Dingi223
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:18:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Dingi223 on 20/06/2008 19:21:22
I have had multiple disconnects today as well, from the North East in the USA. I cannot stay connected for more than 10-15 min before I click and get an instant shut down of EVE with 'lost connection'.
Edit: I just have to echo the coincidence that these disconnects started immediately after that optional client side patch. I don't really believe in coincidences. Hopefully it'll get resolved soon either way.
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Jaguar Dragon
Blood Association of Dragons
Blood Alliance of Dragons
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:19:00 -
[67]
getting disconnected from eve every 5 mins
been going on since dt yesterday
i have time warner roadrunner cable internet
time ccp fixed things and stoppped blaming our isp's
i'm fine everywhere else i use internet except eve
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Callisto Miir
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:22:00 -
[68]
I keep getting disconnected about every 5 minutes... very frustating indeed. It's not an issue with my ISP, that much I know. I can play any other MMO just fine and download Torrents without any latency.
I think CCP needs to look in-house now. The guy just above that mentioned something about the EVE Login Server could be on to something.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:23:00 -
[69]
As of 20:21 GMT on June 20th this is still an issue for a number of players in North America.
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Central Scrutinizer
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:23:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Central Scrutinizer on 20/06/2008 19:23:55
Pretty much unplayable for me, I get disconnected every 3-10 minutes.
It's only disconnectiong from Eve servers, and sometimes not all the characters I have logged in.
Edit: I'm in NA, and most other NA people I've talked to are having the same problem.
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Tomcat
Are Cee Emm
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:24:00 -
[71]
First... If you do not understand anything about the internet backbone network.. shut your (censored) mouth while men are talking in this thread.
Now to the important stuff.
After yesterdays problems with Savvis and Sprint backbone systems, things cleared up last night between 0300 eve time till around downtime. (ohio, usa) Things were also fine through the afternoon hours today. The issues have started again within the last hour for myself in Ohio, usa and also Indiana, usa. It seems currently that the Chicago backbone which we route through is completely n/a to all providers, (verizon, att, ect) I have verizon dsl business class. Spotty lag across the entire internet ( Those who say its just eve are, well liars..) Just an update from this end.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:24:00 -
[72]
Cant stay connected for more than a few minutes. Intermittent problems with the website as well but no other internet functions.
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Souma12
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:25:00 -
[73]
disconnected again
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Qwert0
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:27:00 -
[74]
Caldari militia is having disconnects by the dozen, no point in fleet ops at all atm.
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Cruel Crow
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:27:00 -
[75]
Didn't this start yesterday night? East Cost/USA Everything working BUT EVE. Upgraded Cable $10 to LAG Less (I think NOT) Well at least im able to DL more adult content faster!
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ToysForBoys
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:28:00 -
[76]
I am on Cox Cable Modem service. I have 3 computers in my home all of which have Eve installed. I have lost connections on all 3 constantly the past 2 days which is very rare. My brother-in-laws and I play religiously here and have never had this problem. I left 2 of the machines logged into Eve while I went to play Age of Conan Online. I never lost connectivity to Age of Conan Online, but Eve constantly is disconnected.
I lost connection to Eve over 15 times today alone; it is unplayable at the moment.
This is not a internet connection issue with my provider. Not sure if it is software related or server related or combo.
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Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:28:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Shepard Book on 20/06/2008 19:29:31
Ever since the last patch I am having connection problems I get disconnected when undocking and when jumping gates off and on. This is not an ISP issue this started right after last patch. This is happening with patch and without now.
I am using AT&T DSL
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Moraguth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:30:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Moraguth on 20/06/2008 19:31:31
Hi. I'm in the middle of the US, and I'm using Cox too. My EvE and my AoC are dropping ALOT! Internet seems slower than usual in general, but eve is having the most problems.
Edit: Oh, and i installed the last patch, then DC'ed. Then eve told me i should just uninstall it, so i did then played just fine for the rest of the night yesterday. The whole "eve disconnecting alot" thing is as of today.
good game
Hoc filum tradit - This thread delivers.
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Cruel Crow
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:30:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Shepard Book
Edited by: Shepard Book on 20/06/2008 19:29:31
Ever since the last patch I am having connection problems I get disconnected when undocking and when jumping gates off and on. This is not an ISP issue this started right after last patch. This is happening with patch and without now.
I am using AT&T DSL
There hasn't been a patch without problem! SIGN
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Bishop Stewart
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:33:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Tomcat
First... If you do not understand anything about the internet backbone network.. shut your (censored) mouth while men are talking in this thread.
Now to the important stuff.
After yesterdays problems with Savvis and Sprint backbone systems, things cleared up last night between 0300 eve time till around downtime. (ohio, usa) Things were also fine through the afternoon hours today. The issues have started again within the last hour for myself in Ohio, usa and also Indiana, usa. It seems currently that the Chicago backbone which we route through is completely n/a to all providers, (verizon, att, ect) I have verizon dsl business class. Spotty lag across the entire internet ( Those who say its just eve are, well liars..) Just an update from this end.
*cough* fool fanboy *cough*
I'm glad you're an expert though. Really. Better tell the Australians who have these problems that their connection in Chicago is down. LOL
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Aneu Angellus
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:34:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Bishop Stewart
Ok. Since CCP and the fool fanboys who believe everything the corp tells them are adamant that the issue is with the Sprint and Savvis backbone, tell me this: How do you explain the European, Asian and Australian disconnects? I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they don't use those backbones? Or do you guys think that those two are used by the WHOLE world? That would explain the issues, at least.
So if you take all the little people having troubles and try to find a common denominator, guess what it would be?
Anyway, I've noticed something. Might be a coincidence, but if I don't use the chat window, I'm good for a while. I start to chat with someone, by the third or forth entry I go byebye.
Just a thought, shut the hell up since it is 100% not a CCP issue... get it? Nothing CCP can do, there is no problem with the login server, there is no problem with any SERVER CCP HAVE... this is an ISP route issue...
Iv been logged in 23/7 for the past few days, no drops, at all...
Go back to your swamp annoying alt troll.
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Srvin Taisorgky
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:34:00 -
[82]
I've only been getting disconnects to this game and not other games, only within the last few days.
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Hungry Hippo
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:36:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Kyguard
Getting DC'd a lot, I'm using Rogers Cable (AT&T)
Rogers isn't AT&T. Rogers Cable uses it's own lines not AT&T's. Most ISP's in Canada end up going over Bell's lines eventually. Rogers AT&T (wireless)was at one point called Rogers AT&T because AT&T was a shareholder at the time (not anymore)it is now called Rogers Wireless.
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Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:36:00 -
[84]
from holland all is well
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Judge Ment
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:36:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Bishop Stewart
Originally by: Tomcat
First... If you do not understand anything about the internet backbone network.. shut your (censored) mouth while men are talking in this thread.
Now to the important stuff.
After yesterdays problems with Savvis and Sprint backbone systems, things cleared up last night between 0300 eve time till around downtime. (ohio, usa) Things were also fine through the afternoon hours today. The issues have started again within the last hour for myself in Ohio, usa and also Indiana, usa. It seems currently that the Chicago backbone which we route through is completely n/a to all providers, (verizon, att, ect) I have verizon dsl business class. Spotty lag across the entire internet ( Those who say its just eve are, well liars..) Just an update from this end.
*cough* fool fanboy *cough*
I'm glad you're an expert though. Really. Better tell the Australians who have these problems that their connection in Chicago is down. LOL
Just maybe, but his time seem to be right on the nail. It did start yesterday. Also it didn't start disconnection till this afternoon. So maybe the providers are having tech issues! And CCP Might be clean ?
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:41:00 -
[86]
My connection which hops between toronto -> Washington D.C. -> NYC -> London -> London-> Iceland/CCP -> TQ
The last 2 hops are seeing packet loss flare ups in the neighborhood of 30-80% which last for 40-60 seconds before correcting themselves. It looks like there could be an issue closer to home for CCP as well.
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Souma12
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:15:00 -
[87]
Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms PC
2 15 ms 7 ms 6 ms Router
3 9 ms 6 ms 9 ms ISP
4 7 ms 9 ms 9 ms 133.142.52.200.static.redip.inext.net.mx [200.52
.142.133]
5 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms redip89.redip.protel.net.mx [200.52.143.89]
6 43 ms 47 ms 42 ms 66-90-128-198.ip.grandenetworks.net [66.90.128.1
98]
7 41 ms 42 ms 40 ms ge-0-0-0.core01.dllstx.grandecom.net [24.155.121
.129]
8 43 ms 46 ms 50 ms paix-dfw.llnw.com [198.32.114.43]
9 90 ms 73 ms 75 ms tge5-3.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.198]
10 70 ms 74 ms 74 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
11 97 ms 99 ms 99 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
12 96 ms 99 ms 99 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
13 177 ms 178 ms 178 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
14 198 ms 196 ms 183 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
15 192 ms 185 ms 190 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
16 187 ms 186 ms 203 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
17 184 ms 187 ms 187 ms 87.237.38.200
well seems like im not bouncing over any of the fkedup isps... so what now? its prolly my mouse fault right?
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Aneu Angellus
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:20:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 20/06/2008 20:22:09
Originally by: Bishop Stewart
Originally by: Judge Ment
Just maybe, but his time seem to be right on the nail. It did start yesterday. Also it didn't start disconnection till this afternoon. So maybe the providers are having tech issues! And CCP Might be clean ?
Granted. But what about the peeps in the lands far, far away?
http://www.theshulers.com/whitepapers/internet_whitepaper/index.html
Exmaple of a backbone down... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=107103 - familiar is it not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Internet_map_1024.jpg - MOAR INFO
Please, go out of your mums basement and get some air...
ps not making them linky since its wasting time on you...
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:22:00 -
[89]
Just a note, I did NOT install the patch yesterday and suffered from Dcs last night as well as today. Lets just hope wherever the issue is it gets resolved soon as im a EVE addict and need my fix. Currently its unplayable and im starting to fiend for a fix there is no telling what I could do!    
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |
Bishop Stewart
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:28:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
http://www.theshulers.com/whitepapers/internet_whitepaper/index.html
Exmaple of a backbone down... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=107103 - familiar is it not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Internet_map_1024.jpg - MOAR INFO
Please, go out of your mums basement and get some air...
ps not making them linky since its wasting time on you...
LOL. You're an idiot. So from one of the links that you posted, you think it's a worldwide attack on the ISPs? Or, oh noes! Maybe someone is stealing the internet! Tell me, you believed everything you saw on the newest "Die Hard" movie, didn't you?
BTW, not everyone lives in their Mom's basement. Strange that you mentioned it, though. Makes me wonder about your living arrangements.
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:43:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Caligulus on 20/06/2008 20:44:35
Originally by: Caligulus
My connection which hops between toronto -> Washington D.C. -> NYC -> London -> London-> Iceland/CCP -> TQ
The last 2 hops are seeing packet loss flare ups in the neighborhood of 30-80% which last for 40-60 seconds before correcting themselves. It looks like there could be an issue closer to home for CCP as well.
This trend continues. Anyone else seeing this?
EDIT: I see these flares when I get DC'd. I'm off for now, good luck to all of you and hopefully you don't get to bored waiting to play again.
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My Julutschka
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:47:00 -
[92]
strange thing is i have two PCs at home, on the one I can log in just normally, on the other i get status unknown? has anyone an idea what may cause this ?
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:54:00 -
[93]
Skynet is now self aware and soon we will all be DEAD! 
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |
Gort
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:55:00 -
[94]
Originally by: CaldariSlave
Will CCP be reimbursing lost assets related to this connectivity problem?
Alot of players, myself included, lost some valuable stuff to this and it really sucks.
It's an internet game. They aren't your assets, and they aren't valuable, though it might seem otherwise.
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:00:00 -
[95]
Originally by: My Julutschka
strange thing is i have two PCs at home, on the one I can log in just normally, on the other i get status unknown? has anyone an idea what may cause this ?
Some router somewhere--and from what I'm seeing in my traces, I strongly suspect one of the french limelight routers--may be having intermittent issues. It probably lost the packets for one of your computers, but not the other.
I've been experiencing disconnect problems the last few days. Generally I disconnect once every 15-20 minutes, though when it is really bad I might disconnect every few minutes.
Traces are inconclusive so far. I have the logserver running, which seems to let me know immediately when I disconnect. I'm going to try to catch the bad router with a properly timed traceroute.
I'm not yet convinced it is CCP yet. It looks like network problems in Europe. CCP's servers are in London.
-Grid
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Xylah
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:01:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Go back to your swamp annoying alt troll.
Pot calling the kettle black
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manasi
Ceptacemia
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:34:00 -
[97]
Ok, so the tracert looks clean and such....why the DC still 2 in the last 40 minutes?
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
2 17 ms 99 ms 7 ms
3 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms
4 11 ms 9 ms 11 ms 130.81.17.199
5 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms tge10-4.fr4.iad.llnw.net [69.28.156.205]
6 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms tge4-1.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.154]
7 99 ms 99 ms 99 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
8 108 ms 106 ms 107 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
9 110 ms 109 ms 115 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
10 107 ms 107 ms 108 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
11 107 ms 107 ms 108 ms 87.237.39.100
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draak noir
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:34:00 -
[98]
Just dropped (again) after being on for five minutes in a system with six people. Like many others, I have NEVER had connection issues until yesterday, one account downloaded the patch, others have not, no difference. Location NC, US, TWC internet provider.
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Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:36:00 -
[99]
I am also noticing the forums timeout at same time if I try to switch posts. I have not connectivity problems with any other programs connected to my ISP at same time.
This leads me to believe this is a problem on CCP side.
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Aidan Ordway
The Reappropriation Committee
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:43:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Shepard Book
Edited by: Shepard Book on 20/06/2008 21:38:18
I am also noticing the forums timeout at same time if I try to switch posts. I have no connectivity problems with any other programs connected to my ISP at same time.
This leads me to believe this is a problem on CCP side.
Yes. All yesterday each time EVE would drop, the CCP forums would stall as well.
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Satorex
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:46:00 -
[101]
Still broken as far as I can tell - disconnects. Eastern USA at 17:45 EDT.
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Arkios Odymei
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:46:00 -
[102]
And so it begins again.
Im dropping constantly just like yesterday....
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:48:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Shepard Book
Edited by: Shepard Book on 20/06/2008 21:38:18
I am also noticing the forums timeout at same time if I try to switch posts. I have no connectivity problems with any other programs connected to my ISP at same time.
This leads me to believe this is a problem on CCP side.
I think I finally caught it. It's almost certainly a problem on llnw.net, before it gets anywhere near CCP's London servers.
In particular, I keep seeing problems on this router:
13 * * 195ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
Those first two "*" before the "195ms" indicate that the first two attempts for the traceroute to contact that router failed.
The hope to llnw.net's router for CCP is also experiencing very high latency:
15 436ms 206ms 424ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
I hate to break it to everyone, but this does NOT appear to be an issue with CCP. It appears to be an issue with CCP's provider, llnw.net.
-Grid
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Aneu Angellus
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:48:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Bishop Stewart
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
http://www.theshulers.com/whitepapers/internet_whitepaper/index.html
Exmaple of a backbone down... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=107103 - familiar is it not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Internet_map_1024.jpg - MOAR INFO
Please, go out of your mums basement and get some air...
ps not making them linky since its wasting time on you...
LOL. You're an idiot. So from one of the links that you posted, you think it's a worldwide attack on the ISPs? Or, oh noes! Maybe someone is stealing the internet! Tell me, you believed everything you saw on the newest "Die Hard" movie, didn't you?
BTW, not everyone lives in their Mom's basement. Strange that you mentioned it, though. Makes me wonder about your living arrangements.
No not at all, and that was a bit of information to get you started on how the internet operates... how backbones are vital, and how it certain ones go down, the internet wont function properly... as for using my retort back against me... how common...
Originally by: Xylah
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Go back to your swamp annoying alt troll.
Pot calling the kettle black
1, your an alt
2, your an alt of the above guy
3, nope im not an alt, im a main, my alts are Shamen and Sidthesexist... + a few morecheck
Aneu
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The Rastafarian
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:50:00 -
[105]
Anyone know if this is clearing up yet?
Frustrated miner.
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Phanny Grabber
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:51:00 -
[106]
i am still getting disconnected!! happens about every ten minutes, so i really dont think anything has been fixed!
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Internet Knight
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:52:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Update 2: These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.
Nope, I just got disconnected twice today in a matter of about 10 minutes.
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:53:00 -
[108]
I'm still dropping, thankfully haven't died to it yet.
Don't hate me, learn to love me |
Annalira
Transilience Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:54:00 -
[109]
I am also having problems with timing out on the forums. I have surfed at least a dozen other sites, I've played 2 other games today and not one use of my ISP's services yielded timed out browser activity or loss of connection to the games. Not one. And *gasp* other players from around the world on those other games are having no problems with connections. But i guess it's just an ISP conspiracy against playing EVE??
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Juilin Sandar
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:55:00 -
[110]
yeah its still droping every 15 mins
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Zilnam Haa
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:55:00 -
[111]
nope, not cleared up. Tampa Florida here. Give me the phone numbers & I'll call them Limelight peep's in France.(put down the wine) :)
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thirstytom
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:56:00 -
[112]
today have lost connection 5 x's in a hour! this may or may not be ccp's issue but needless to say alot of people will quit if this does not get cleared up soon! I have fios, which is very fast. no reason I should be experiencing this
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deadlast
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:04:00 -
[113]
I play 6 or so games online and have had no other problem on any other servers over the last two days. I have never had any DC EVER on eve before.I have never had problems with eve or ccp but over the last two days and the losses I have suffered I have to ask myself if staying is worth paying for.
It's not like it's one unit sold hands off. ccp has to resell this product every month to every player.
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Goremageddon Box
Soldiers Of Mercy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:07:00 -
[114]
Originally by: deadlast
I play 6 or so games online and have had no other problem on any other servers over the last two days. I have never had any DC EVER on eve before.I have never had problems with eve or ccp but over the last two days and the losses I have suffered I have to ask myself if staying is worth paying for.
It's not like it's one unit sold hands off. ccp has to resell this product every month to every player.
it's two days.
let them get it together before u threaten to leave.
or leave cus u have no faith in ur money.
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:09:00 -
[115]
Originally by: thirstytom
today have lost connection 5 x's in a hour! this may or may not be ccp's issue but needless to say alot of people will quit if this does not get cleared up soon! I have fios, which is very fast. no reason I should be experiencing this
There is a very good reason you are experiencing this. It is NOT *YOUR* ISP that is having problems. It is CCP's ISP that is having problems. Namely, LIMELIGHT is clearly having issues, with intermittent problems on their tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94] router.
I'm watching this router time out intermittently on and off throughout the day. It is not CCP, it is their ISP.
-Grid
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Matthew
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:17:00 -
[116]
Originally by: deadlast
It's not like it's one unit sold hands off. ccp has to resell this product every month to every player.
Indeed, but do you blame the petrol station for the rough ride in your car when you drive over potholes? Or do you blame the highways agency?
Bear in mind that many other MMOs, which are sharded, will have a server that is physically located much closer to you than Tranquility is. In the same way that a traffic jam in New York doesn't disrupt your daily commute if you live and work in California, you'll only experience problems where these particular backbones sit between you and the service you are trying to use.
Originally by: thirstytom
I have fios, which is very fast. no reason I should be experiencing this
Strangely enough, your fios line does not run all the way from your house to London. The data is probably going along your line fine. But once it gets from your home to the wider backbone infrastructure, your traffic is nothing special. It's just another packet of data, merged with everyone elses, and passed over the same backbone connections.
Back to the car analogy - the roads in your neighborhood can be the most amazing roads in the world, but that won't help you avoid a traffic jam once you've merged into the highway.
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Rufus MacMaranth
Shadow Front
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:23:00 -
[117]
It all seems to have drastically improved (at least here in Missouri) over the last hour or so. If anyone had looked at the backbone stats that were linked in another thread you would have seen that Savvis and Sprint were both having issues with availability and at one point one of the other connects was dropping a large number of packets.
Guess things are better now, at least here.
Ruf.
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Gaufres
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:23:00 -
[118]
It seems strange to me that these problems only seem to happen after a major update/patch by CCP.
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Orion Shurtak
Mission Runners United
Overtime Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:23:00 -
[119]
East Coast of US here and still dropping out. I have plenty of cheese for all the whine in here. Just relax and let those in the know fix the problems. I have been playing eve since 2003 and this has happened before and will probably happen again. Each and every time was Evs's Internet provider and not Eve.
If you insist on leaving the game because you can't play then see if you can login long enough to contract me your stuff before you leave.
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Mission Runners United
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Melystus
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:23:00 -
[120]
Oklahoma, US
been having a lot of issues of late and have tracked it to a problem in Chicago. Anyone routed thru there will likely be having issues.
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Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:25:00 -
[121]
nah its still a problem. its just insanely sporatic. I will be connected fine for like 1h the i drop every 10mins for the next
My isp is Videotron in montreal, Canada. and I am not having connection issue as my vent stay connected and the live stream radio i am running is working fine too.
Only thing that drop are the eve client on both systems.
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Synn Seitti
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:26:00 -
[122]
Hey guys CCP is paying for an ISP that's having problems, clearly it's not their responsibility to do anything about it at all. Maybe it'll just clear up on it's own.
CCP buys bandwidth from limelight. That means they can demand answers about why there's problems with llwn routers. It would be courtious to relay that to the players, even a simple "They are replacing defective hardware, it should be resolved within 45 minutes".
That said, it's been good since 22:00 EVE here so perhaps these 5 minute disconnects are over.
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Matthew
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:28:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Commander Thrawn
nah its still a problem. its just insanely sporatic. I will be connected fine for like 1h the i drop every 10mins for the next
My isp is Videotron in montreal, Canada. and I am not having connection issue as my vent stay connected and the live stream radio i am running is working fine too.
Only thing that drop are the eve client on both systems.
The sporadicness probably depends on luck of the draw as to when the dodgy connection drops your packets as opposed to someone elses.
As for radio and vent staying up, where are those servers based? It could be that they are in a completely different location, that you access via a different backbone.
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laststance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:28:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: deadlast
It's not like it's one unit sold hands off. ccp has to resell this product every month to every player.
Indeed, but do you blame the petrol station for the rough ride in your car when you drive over potholes? Or do you blame the highways agency?
Bear in mind that many other MMOs, which are sharded, will have a server that is physically located much closer to you than Tranquility is. In the same way that a traffic jam in New York doesn't disrupt your daily commute if you live and work in California, you'll only experience problems where these particular backbones sit between you and the service you are trying to use.
Originally by: thirstytom
I have fios, which is very fast. no reason I should be experiencing this
Strangely enough, your fios line does not run all the way from your house to London. The data is probably going along your line fine. But once it gets from your home to the wider backbone infrastructure, your traffic is nothing special. It's just another packet of data, merged with everyone elses, and passed over the same backbone connections.
Back to the car analogy - the roads in your neighborhood can be the most amazing roads in the world, but that won't help you avoid a traffic jam once you've merged into the highway.
I dont like the car analogy heres a better one
I have a house and buy natural gas from company A.the next day the gas stop, I call the company A and then company A tells me it company B distribution network that went down.
I have threw no fault or action on my own to caused the disruption yet bear the cost.
if its ccp isp fault thats fine if it's ccp fault thats fine too but the players shouldn't have to bear the loss in lost ships ect.
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Hungry Hippo
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:29:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Hungry Hippo on 20/06/2008 22:34:38
Big spike just now.
Response time just went up to 700ms followed by another couple to 500ms, a minute latter there was no response what so ever for about 20 seconds.
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Matthew
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:48:00 -
[126]
Originally by: laststance
I dont like the car analogy heres a better one
I have a house and buy natural gas from company A.the next day the gas stop, I call the company A and then company A tells me it company B distribution network that went down.
I have threw no fault or action on my own to caused the disruption yet bear the cost.
if its ccp isp fault thats fine if it's ccp fault thats fine too but the players shouldn't have to bear the loss in lost ships ect.
Well, in the case of the gas supplier, a fault is fairly easy to identify and compensate for - they will know who's on the end of the blocked pipe.
The case in Eve is not as clear cut. They can't be sure who is genuinely disconnecting due to this issue, and who is pulling their network cable out mid-gank in the hope of faking the problem and getting their ship back.
While you would of course say they should be more lenient during this time, to reduce the impact of those affected, you have to bear in mind the impact of unjust reimbursements. If I've just lost half a dozen ships taking down a high value target, I'm going to lose out if they get it back by taking advantage of the current situation and faking a disconnect.
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Hungry Hippo
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:50:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Hungry Hippo on 20/06/2008 22:53:41
Check out this site for World Latency amounts, you can also see where most internet traffic is coming from etc..
Linkage
More visual charts here:
Linkage
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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:58:00 -
[128]
We've had a few more disconnects in the past few hours here in Australia.
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kewtip
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:06:00 -
[129]
My current ISP is verizon, and im located in the US, east coast... the disconnects appear to be coming in waves. about 2-6 disconnects in a 10 minute window with about 45minute to 1hr gaps inbetween.
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Acidictadpole
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:08:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Acidictadpole on 20/06/2008 23:08:42
Still an issue for me :(
ON. Canada
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Sora Komachi
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:15:00 -
[131]
I'm Sitting in Holland, my ISP is a new fused company named Ziggo.
The DC's are comming at random here too.
Its a global problem or so it seems, then again, Ziggo made a record in the Dutch Consumers Union for being the worst ISP in all of Holland.
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Siriana
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:15:00 -
[132]
Can I just make the point that on the http://internethealthreport.com/ indicates that a latency number higher than 180ms is deemed to be 'critical'.
Hmmm..... where does that leave the average solar system in Empire....?
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:55:00 -
[133]
I find the fanbois far more irritating than any amateur network observers who guess at the problem or leap to incorrect conclusions.
I have been in Eve two years. There have been connectivity problems all during that time, more at times and less at other times, but consistent reports of problems ONLY with Eve.
I have been in software design and programming, operating system design and programming and maintenance, networking and Internet server authoring, some of it going back 45 years. Since the age of networking I have seen appalling levels of incompetence among those who are paid to configure and run networks.
Recently and until the start of this problem yesterday (Eve time), connectivity issues had been minimal. Since the start of this problem the game is effectively unplayable. It's not even possible to remain docked and chat, since the effect of a lost connection doesn't show until the client tries to communicate with the server and one can't be sure what chat postings got through.
Connectivity problems in the two years I have been subject to them have been CCP problems (various), CCP's Internet feeds close to the cluster, CCP's feeds farther from the cluster and, at times, backbone problems. Sometimes a combination of several of the above. Of course I have also experienced local ISP, networking and power problems, but those are usually identifiable as such.
It is very misleading to claim that CCP is not responsible and unable to do anything about problems outside their London cluster. CCP selects the providers of their Internet feeds. They have been using llnw.net for some time, and llnw.net sucks rocks. PingPlotter frequently and easily shows llnw.net problems close to the CCP cluster... high packet loss rates and complete outages. Level 3 has had similar problems but fewer than llnw.net.
As customers of their Internet providers CCP has access to them and CCP's complaints and issues should carry some weight with the providers. After all, if CCP has alternatives and some balls, they can terminate a provider and add another to the mix.
As to Internet routing, the Internet does not work like the descriptions of early ARPANET. Email is no longer relayed through many host nodes; one mail server establishes a TCP connection with a distant mail server and the only intermediaries are routers and switches. Rerouting around outages in the Internet will usually break TCP connections like our Eve client connections. Excessive packet latency and/or dropped packets may cause loss of connection while immediately reconnecting will usually succeed. So alternative routing may keep connectivity in general available but individual TCP connections will often be broken by the mechanics of such flexibility.
An undercut to this entire discussion is this: CCP could, if they wished, write a resilient connectivity layer to use TCP or even UDP and protect users against all but the most severe and prolonged outages. It is completely up to the application programmer how to handle an apparent loss of connection. It is CCP's choice to have no resiliency and to "crash" back to the login screen with connection loss messages, tossing all the transient data in the client. This is their choice. They could choose to reestablish the connection, maintaining the "session" as the user sees it. If they used UDP with their own layer of transmission control there would be no loss of connection since the connection would be virtual, completely in the hands of the client and server CCP software. Their software could implement a rule such as, "If we can't get traffic going again for, oh, 10 minutes, then we will consider that the virtual connection has been lost. Until then we will attempt to reconnect or get traffic flowing and, if successful, there will have been a delay but nothing lost."
That could still have consequences in PvP, missions, etc., but what we have now is the worst of all possible scenarios.
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.06.21 00:27:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Zanpt
I find the fanbois far more irritating than any amateur network observers who guess at the problem or leap to incorrect conclusions.
Not lumping you in this category, but equally annoying are the haters, who find glee in bashing on CCP at every possibly opportunity.
In this particular case, the problem is a router in CCP's ISP. I don't think there is any doubt about that. Whether or not they should be on that ISP is an entirely different conversation. This current issue is only indirectly their fault.
But what you said about their network code not being particularly robust... I 100% agree with that statement. There is no reason the client should be so fragile. I'm also very frustrated that the client is unable to recognize trouble when it happens. There is no excuse for the client not recognizing when it loses connection!
-Grid
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.06.21 00:55:00 -
[135]
It's obviously because of the patch.
Please fix it or give us the option to undo the optional patch.
O yes and nerf nano!!
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2008.06.21 01:13:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Gridwalker
I'm also very frustrated that the client is unable to recognize trouble when it happens. There is no excuse for the client not recognizing when it loses connection!
It's an extremely common problem that TCP apps can't tell when they have lost a connection. TCP has no way to inform the app of a lost connection until and unless outbound traffic yields a hard error. As long as an app doesn't try to send anything and doesn't expect to receive anything, a "stealth disconnection" can go on for a very long time. The Eve client suffers from this a lot.
A common solution to this problem is to implement a "heartbeat," some small message whose only purpose is to demonstrate to the other side of the connection that the connection and this host are still alive and well. Alas, this results in extra traffic which, in CCP's case, must be multiplied by 40,000 or so to see the full effect. A heartbeat can be in just one direction or in both directions, often required in only one.
CCP seems to be using TCP in its simplest form, with essentially no resilience or error handling other than to throw up their hands and say, "Well, I guess that means we've lost the connection!" That would be Network Programming 100.1. A fairly simple thing to do is write the server to not immediately throw away the user/connection data and to wait for a reconnection for a reasonable time. At the client side an apparent connection loss can be treated with the view of "Well, we can't have that, so let's keep all the data and just try to reestablish the connection." Coordination between the client and server could easily bypass the login for a reconnect. Similarly, load sharing could be bypassed for reconnections and the new connection could be made to or directed to the same element of the cluster that was handling the original connection. None of this requires any changes to the TCP or TCP/IP stack.
Using UDP requires copying or recreating most of the transmission control that is what TCP does. But unlike TCP's strict interpretation of what constitutes a "connection," this would regard the connection as being longer term and spanning periods of errors or absence of traffic. This does not require changes to TCP, UDP or TCP/IP but involves more work, as it must duplicate much of what is in the TCP layer.
It's even possible, perhaps likely, that resilient protocol layers exist for doing some or all of this.
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Yoinx
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.21 01:34:00 -
[137]
I've been monitoring my link to tranq for a couple hours now....
Less than 100ms ping times from the East Coast of the US.
Problem appears to be solved to me. I get random 100% packet loss for a second here and there... but thats to be expected.
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Gartanus
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:59:00 -
[138]
Kansas here. Still jerky screen and disconnect at random. Guess I will give it one more day and see how things go. At least I can get in now to change skills. Yesterday I couldn't even get the log in screen to come up. From reading the posts in the forums, its clear that progress is being made. I just hope this is fixed soon, Its forceing me to talk to my wife. ....whispers.....She scares me sometimes  lol
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Napro
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:10:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Napro on 21/06/2008 03:10:38
So I petitioned my Pod-loss due to disconnect... and CCP says it's not going to do it because to do so would open the window for massive exploitation of the petition system.
Hmm.
You KNOW there was a connect problem for hundreds/thousands of users(since you made this thread, obviously)
Yet, You imply that I may be exploiting the petition system and therefore I get no reimbursement.
Do you admit there was a problem or not? How can I be an exploiter when you yourselves admit in this thread that there was a problem?
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Kame Malice
Mitsukashi Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:14:00 -
[140]
New Hampshire USA user
Metrocast High Speed internet
No problems on my end. Hope that information helps.
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Napro
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:20:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Kame Malice
New Hampshire USA user
Metrocast High Speed internet
No problems on my end. Hope that information helps.
I don't think they can eliminate every working ISP on earth, m8
Also, I pointed the CCP rep who answered my petition to this thread. He claimed there was no solid evidence. Hopefully this thread proves otherwise
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Marso Neiliev
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Posted - 2008.06.21 04:23:00 -
[142]
I've been following this problem for a week now, and Zanpt is the first person who sounded like he knows what he's talking about.
This game is how many years old? And yet a problem like this had CCP this stymied for this long? I've played online games that were older with inferior all-around tech, and I've played games whose servers were located farther away from my home than Europe. I don't believe I've ever experienced connectivity problems like this, and if I did I know they didn't last this long. I don't want to bash CCP because I'm sure things are more complicated that this consumer understands, but I can honestly say I don't feel confident in their ability to handle problems - specifically problems that other younger online games have conquered so much more easily.
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Dzadhuk
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Posted - 2008.06.21 05:10:00 -
[143]
Why has this not been posted in the news? Why aren't there regular pop-ups every two hours or so mentioning that there are major internet problems and combat etc may be compromised? I've lost ships needlessly and if I'd just been given some warning and not had to trawl here, it would have been useful.
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danwa
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.06.21 05:46:00 -
[144]
I had posted this in another thread but it applies here as well...
From the southern part of the US it goes to a company in Dallas called The Planet - which is one of the largest server company in the US then up to Chicago - NYC - cross the Atlantic to London then into a server in the Netherlands according to DNS Tools, a free site.
DNS Tools
Use this to lookup about anything you want but remember do the tracert through the command line in your computer then take the IP and trace the route out with the DNS Tools site.
My 2 cents - CCP has increased there membership by 10000 or more daily - before FW there were 26K players about anytime I logged on - now it is as high as 36K.
You got different servers with increased traffic over them - which means lag especially the servers where most of the "action" takes place.
Maybe the servers are not over taxed but lines going to them could be - I was disconnected 3 times in one hour - too much for FW or anything like that. Replacing ships due to lag and disconnects get expensive.
BTW - the "battle lag" is normal - if you ever played any "shooters" then you know to turn off all the extra stuff...but then 100 ship blobs firing at once would lag a Cray Computer.
However the disconnects are due to over taxed lines going to CCP since we didn't have this problem before FW....
Again this is just my opinion. So your milage may vary.
s/D.
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Lucius Nahme
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:32:00 -
[145]
failtrolls were fail
"I'm ignorant and ur all fanbois cause you refuse to believe my half baked accusations that its CCP's fault rather than the problems with the backbones being reported by experts"
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Calvin Okone
LSP Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.22 01:49:00 -
[146]
Looks like this little guy is still having prblems get all the little piggies to the market:
tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
Results of traceroute -[-
C:\Documents and Settings\roberto>tracert www.eve-online.com
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 7 ms 5 ms 7 ms Someip
2 5 ms 7 ms 10 ms Someip
3 6 ms 6 ms 9 ms Someip
4 14 ms 13 ms 11 ms nyrkbbrj02-so000.0.r2.ny.cox.net [68.1.0.251]
5 20 ms 11 ms 12 ms ve2002.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.201]
6 83 ms 84 ms 90 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
7 92 ms 84 ms 90 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
8 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
9 93 ms 94 ms 88 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.22 02:02:00 -
[147]
Update 2: These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.
There is still a problem and it never stopped. A new update would be nice. Thank you for your time.
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Calvin Okone
LSP Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.22 02:13:00 -
[148]
Well I haven't been dropping but but the lag is just horrible. When I did the traceroute you see above I saw the latency in the link and figured I'd better post something. |
Ikki Phoenix
NightHawk Phantom Fleet
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Posted - 2008.06.22 03:20:00 -
[149]
Also losing connection.
I am using ATT
EveMag:Download Location 3
Get Eve Commander now |
Chradian
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Posted - 2008.06.22 04:54:00 -
[150]
Getting lots of disconnects tonight |
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Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:02:00 -
[151]
Can't stay connected. Quality.
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Haakelen
Force d'action navale
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:02:00 -
[152]
5 or 6 DCs tonight, this is getting stupid.
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:02:00 -
[153]
Terrible disconnects tonight.
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Dingi223
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:03:00 -
[154]
Disconnects are starting again.
Pathetic. It appears that the ISP needs some improved redundancy plans.
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Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:03:00 -
[155]
3 drops in 5 minutes, all the while I'm broadcasting a radio show.
Just letting it be known, I can bear it :]
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Gorefacer
Resurrection
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:04:00 -
[156]
3 D/Cs for me in the last 10min.
"You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus |
Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:04:00 -
[157]
Just dicod along with half the alliance 3 times in the past 10 minutes.
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Kyguard
Game-Over
Consortium Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:07:00 -
[158]
Same
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Zurin Arctus
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:07:00 -
[159]
Nope. The issue is not resolved.
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:10:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Calvin Okone
Well I haven't been dropping but but the lag is just horrible. When I did the traceroute you see above I saw the latency in the link and figured I'd better post something.
Latency? A 80ms jump to go from the US to the UK? Try living in Australia, then complain about latency. I would also have thought 80ms to hop the Atlantic would be fairly normal.
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:12:00 -
[161]
I've gotten disconnected 6 times in the past 5 minutes... screw this, I am logging off for the night.
Toronto, Canada
ISP is Bell-Sympatico
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 64.230.197.36
2 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms dis4-kitchener06_Vlan105.net.bell.ca [64.230.239.205]
3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms core3-kitchener06_GE10-1-1.net.bell.ca [64.230.163.109]
4 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms core4-toronto12_POS3-1-1.net.bell.ca [64.230.140.245]
5 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms core2-chicago23_pos3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.147.22]
6 28 ms 28 ms 27 ms bx4-chicagodt_POS3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.178]
7 26 ms 23 ms 22 ms peer-limeligh_bx2-chigagodt.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.182]
8 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
9 40 ms 40 ms 45 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
10 * 41 ms * ve2002.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.201]
11 109 ms 110 ms 109 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
12 113 ms 114 ms 113 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:13:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Alex Under on 22/06/2008 05:13:09
double post
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Moostang
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:16:00 -
[163]
Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 8 ms 10 ms s66-76-73-1.tyrmcmta01.tylrtx.tl.sta.suddenlink.net [66.76.73.1]
3 31 ms 31 ms 17 ms tyrmsysc02-gex010001.ma.dl.suddenlink.net [66.76.109.249]
4 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms cdm-66-76-109-233.tylrtx.suddenlink.net [66.76.109.233]
5 17 ms 12 ms 11 ms tyrm-crs02.suddenlink.net [66.76.30.21]
6 13 ms 15 ms 12 ms dllsosr01-10gex2-1.tex.sta.suddenlink.net [66.76.30.34]
7 18 ms 11 ms 13 ms 66-76-104-14.ukwn.suddenlink.net [66.76.104.14]
8 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms ve5.fr3.dal.llnw.net [69.28.171.105]
9 39 ms 40 ms 43 ms tge5-3.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.198]
10 43 ms 38 ms 40 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
11 66 ms 57 ms 65 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
12 59 ms 66 ms 58 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
13 152 ms 161 ms 146 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
14 154 ms 170 ms 161 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
15 152 ms 156 ms 162 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
16 187 ms 170 ms 175 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
17 183 ms 168 ms 187 ms 87.237.38.200
Trace complete.
C:\>
When I lose connection to eve I cannot ping my 14th hop anymore, the tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94] hop. I can ping my 13th hop just fine.
Moostang
Darkstar 1
Goonswarm
Priceless Necro Thread |
FALLEN XCALIBER
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:16:00 -
[164]
I know a few people using Verizon DSL having the same disconnect problems. I just had 4 disconnects within the last 5 minutes.
Join channel: "Eve University" |
Rutoo
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:18:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Rutoo on 22/06/2008 05:21:32
Originally by: Alex Under
I've gotten disconnected 6 times in the past 5 minutes... screw this, I am logging off for the night.
Toronto, Canada
ISP is Bell-Sympatico
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 64.230.197.36
2 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms dis4-kitchener06_Vlan105.net.bell.ca [64.230.239.205]
3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms core3-kitchener06_GE10-1-1.net.bell.ca [64.230.163.109]
4 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms core4-toronto12_POS3-1-1.net.bell.ca [64.230.140.245]
5 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms core2-chicago23_pos3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.147.22]
6 28 ms 28 ms 27 ms bx4-chicagodt_POS3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.178]
7 26 ms 23 ms 22 ms peer-limeligh_bx2-chigagodt.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.182]
8 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
9 40 ms 40 ms 45 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
10 * 41 ms * ve2002.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.201]
11 109 ms 110 ms 109 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
12 113 ms 114 ms 113 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Was just going to post my results but seen yours :P same city
Half my allience is having the same issues keep getting disconnected
here my route
D:\Documents and Settings\Stephen>tracert www.eve-online.com
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms WGR614v5 [192.168.2.2]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms mymodem [192.168.2.1]
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms bas9-toronto01_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca [64.230.197.184]
4 12 ms 9 ms 11 ms dis5-toronto01_7-11_SYMP.net.bell.ca [64.230.140.81]
5 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms core1-toronto01_GE11-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.234.241]
6 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms core4-toronto12_POS13-3.net.bell.ca [64.230.138.66]
7 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms core2-chicago23_pos3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.147.22]
8 25 ms 23 ms 26 ms bx4-chicagodt_POS3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.178]
9 21 ms 24 ms 23 ms peer-limeligh_bx2-chigagodt.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.182]
10 41 ms 37 ms 37 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * 119 ms 139 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
13 * * 127 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
14 118 ms 127 ms 117 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
15 202 ms 197 ms 251 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
16 118 ms 117 ms 118 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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My Second EvE Video
Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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KingOzar
State Protectorate Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:19:00 -
[166]
How about a disconnect every 30 seconds? Didn't have a problem until today.
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Kzintee
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:19:00 -
[167]
Oh yeah, disconnects galore. 30 sec-1 minute ones.
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Ashandra Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:20:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Ashandra Phoenix on 22/06/2008 05:25:00
Edited by: Ashandra Phoenix on 22/06/2008 05:21:10
I'm having disconnect problems, as well:
Tracing route to eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 2 ms 1 ms
2 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms
3 12 ms 13 ms 14 ms
4 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms
5 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms
6 25 ms 20 ms 20 ms
7 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms
8 33 ms 50 ms 24 ms
9 38 ms 43 ms 38 ms tge1-2.fr4.iad.llnw.net [69.28.172.34]
10 43 ms 44 ms 52 ms tge4-1.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.154]
11 43 ms 42 ms 44 ms ve2002.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.201]
12 114 ms 114 ms 119 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
13 122 ms 123 ms 125 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
14 114 ms 115 ms 114 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
15 114 ms 115 ms 117 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Note: I'm in Georgia.
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Atsuko Yamamoto
The Nietzian Way
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:23:00 -
[169]
West Coast US, disconnecting constantly...
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"MONKEY!!"-Gir |
Northwind Fusilier
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:25:00 -
[170]
In Toronto as well, terrible DC's all night. Just logged for the night....try it again in the morning.
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t0bor
Celestrial Angels
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:25:00 -
[171]
i just bought a new router because i thought these disconnects was a local problem. it seemed to fix it for awhile but recently the dc's have been coming back. i am somewhat glad that i am not the only person having these problems
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The Real McCoy
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Dapper Danny
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:25:00 -
[172]
Was disconnected 12 minutes ago, couldn't log back in, can now, but the moment I get into game (as in, in my ship) I get disconnected about 10 seconds later, funny thing is, Journal window wont load, but EvE mail window will... looks like some information is getting through but a good deal isn't (especially the most important stuff). Wasn having any problem with EvE until now.
Connect from New Zealand if that helps, and my internet connection is fine outside of EvE (bar the EvE website and forums being noticeably slower than normal.
- The Boot.ini Incident glances off your EvE Install causing no real damage! - |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:25:00 -
[173]
This is still a major issue for me. It was happening while I was watching my parents house in San Diego rather regularly, and now that I'm back in graduate student housing (using the university isp) its happening even more.
I cannot stay connected to the game for more than 5 minutes at a time.
Not to sound like a broken record, but I urge you guys at CCP to fix this as soon as you can. Eve in its current state (and to some extent over the last 3 or 4 days) is completely unplayable for me.
Cheers,
-K
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:26:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Alex Under on 22/06/2008 05:27:48
Rutoo, Looks like us folks in Toronto are not going to see any space action tonight. I'm logging for the night. Hopefully things get better and CCP get involved in getting the problems fixed.
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Ashandra Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:28:00 -
[175]
This isn't isolated to North America, folks.
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Nhoj Sllew
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:28:00 -
[176]
east coast here
C:\Documents and Settings>tracert www.eve-online.com
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.100.208.1
3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms gig6-1.syrcnypth-rtr01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.227.1
85]
4 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms gig6-1-0.syrcnycsr-rtr10.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.231
.5]
5 23 ms 22 ms * ge-3-1-0.syrcnycsr-rtr03.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.7.4
9]
6 40 ms 40 ms 42 ms ae-3-0.cr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.72]
7 75 ms 43 ms 42 ms ae-0-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.153]
8 39 ms 39 ms 42 ms tge2-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [68.142.72.221]
9 42 ms 47 ms 46 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 46 ms 47 ms 45 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 126 ms 124 ms 123 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
12 120 ms 125 ms 124 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 126 ms 203 ms 198 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 116 ms 113 ms 117 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
I RP EWOK |
Kari Kayira
Spartan Fleet Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:28:00 -
[177]
This problem appears to be back.
Several routers presumably in London (they all end with .lon.llnw.net) are dropping packets. After ten or twenty seconds of it, I'm rerouted, sometimes multiple times in a couple seconds, but it's enough to punt me off the game. This has happened a couple times now in the last hour.
I understand this isn't an issue with CCP, but an issue with their ISP.
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Ashandra Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:30:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Kari K****a
This problem appears to be back.
Several routers presumably in London (they all end with .lon.llnw.net) are dropping packets. After ten or twenty seconds of it, I'm rerouted, sometimes multiple times in a couple seconds, but it's enough to punt me off the game. This has happened a couple times now in the last hour.
I understand this isn't an issue with CCP, but an issue with their ISP.
It becomes an issue with CCP if their ISP is ****ing off their customers. :P
******* better get on the ball!
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Wyverns of Dionysus
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:30:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Lochmar Fiendhiem on 22/06/2008 05:32:35
Newfoundland, Canada here on Rogers Cable Modem, getting the same issue.
I heard it had something to do with a break in the fiber optics cable that runs under the Atlantic to the UK.
It's not just eve either, sometimes connection times out to other UK websites and such.
If it is a break it will prob take a couple days to completely sort out as they have to send a boat out of Boston to find the cable then basically chase it across the Atlantic till they find the break and patch it.
It does not seem related to the patch, as I have not installed it and get the same dropping issues.
EDIT:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\john>tracert www.eve-online.com
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms 10.24.96.1
3 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms vl-201.gw01.nfsj.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.1
85.91.225]
4 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms gw01.etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.82.1
01]
5 31 ms 29 ms 31 ms gw03.mtmc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.82.7
0]
6 59 ms 49 ms 49 ms 66.185.82.158
7 55 ms 54 ms 54 ms gw01.mtmc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81.1
37]
8 55 ms 64 ms 54 ms 24.153.3.210
9 88 ms 86 ms 87 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
10 160 ms 160 ms 158 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
11 158 ms 159 ms 161 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
12 161 ms 159 ms 160 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
13 158 ms 160 ms 167 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Originally by: Halkin
bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:40:00 -
[180]
multiple disconnection in 10 min time frame occuring in Australia
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms 3 ms 192.168.2.1
2 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms nexthop.nsw.ii.net [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
3 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms gi3-9.syd-stl-bdr1.ii.net [203.215.2.45]
4 30 ms 29 ms 32 ms gi0-15-1-5.syd-ult-core1.ii.net [203.215.20.20]
5 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms Ge0-2-0.gw4.syd1.asianetcom.net [203.192.136.201
]
6 210 ms 207 ms 206 ms gi3-3.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.149]
7 240 ms 234 ms 227 ms po5-0.cr1.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.137]
8 197 ms 197 ms 197 ms po8-0.gw2.sjc1.asianetcom.net [202.147.50.157]
9 232 ms 228 ms 222 ms ge3-11.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [68.142.116.249]
10 195 ms 200 ms 198 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
11 245 ms 246 ms 246 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
12 245 ms 245 ms 245 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
13 272 ms 274 ms 272 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
14 356 ms 347 ms 349 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
15 344 ms 345 ms 344 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
16 345 ms 344 ms 344 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
17 368 ms 408 ms 616 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Shekari
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:40:00 -
[181]
Last couple hours have been really bad. Previous to the even that started this thread and tonight I'd never had any disconnections.
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Sedai Ming
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:40:00 -
[182]
I suppose it's possible that an undersea cable is the culprit. However, this DC problem seems to only crop up for a couple hours each night (Pacific Time Zone) then goes away again. I would tend to think a broken line would be more consistent.
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:41:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Farham on 22/06/2008 05:42:02
I just caught my latest disconnect, I remove hops 1-3 for privacy:
Here is just before disconnect====
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxx
3 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms xxxxxxxxx
4 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms P4-1.LCR-01.PHLAPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.44.196]
5 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms 130.81.17.209
6 42 ms 31 ms 32 ms 130.81.14.14
7 103 ms 114 ms 103 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
8 113 ms 104 ms 103 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
9 103 ms 104 ms 103 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
10 104 ms 103 ms 104 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
******************************************************************************
Here is the disconnect as it starts:
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxx
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms xxxxxxxxxxx
4 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms P4-1.LCR-01.PHLAPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.44.196]
5 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms 130.81.17.209
6 33 ms 32 ms 42 ms 130.81.14.14
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * 113 ms 113 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
***********************************************************************************
Here is the disconnect as it goes through its paces:
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxxxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxxxx
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms xxxxxxxxxxxxx
4 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms P4-1.LCR-01.PHLAPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.44.196]
5 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms 130.81.17.209
6 32 ms 31 ms 37 ms 130.81.14.14
7 38 ms 32 ms 40 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
8 115 ms 116 ms 117 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
9 121 ms 122 ms 125 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
10 121 ms 121 ms 121 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * 127 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
*****************************************************************************
And here is coming out of the disconnect (able to refresh forums):
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxxx
3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms xxxxxxxxxxxx
4 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms P4-1.LCR-01.PHLAPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.44.196]
5 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 130.81.17.209
6 40 ms 31 ms 32 ms 130.81.14.14
7 31 ms 32 ms 35 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
8 115 ms 114 ms 114 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
9 * 131 ms 126 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
10 122 ms 124 ms 128 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
11 123 ms 122 ms 123 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
12 125 ms 128 ms 126 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Definite problem with lon.llnw.net
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Civic
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:42:00 -
[184]
i've crashed like 15 times, please fix it
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Tallain
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:43:00 -
[185]
From Orland, Fl, USA, using BrightHouse Roadrunner, I get the same thing.
And someone mentioned reroutes earlier, getting the same thing, starting here ,"tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net". Every router after that had re-routes at some point though.
This router, 2 hops later, is the worst for me, "ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net", with avg. latency being 129 ms, worst being 367.
llnw.net is having some serious problem...
So it's not a CCP technical issue, but it is affecting their product, unfortunately for us :(
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Obsequious Woe
Wicked Weasels
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:43:00 -
[186]
In Australia... just in the last few hours I've had multipal disconnections.
Making it pretty much unplayable.
OW
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vile56
RillaCorp
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:45:00 -
[187]
minnesota not 1 prob comcast is the isp
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:47:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 22/06/2008 05:51:05
Multiple disconnects. Sometimes a few minutes apart, sometimes seconds apart. Many corp mates with same issue.
Chicago, Illinois, USA
SBC Global (ISP)
Internet connection here fine otherwise (streaming music in background and hasn't so much as hiccuped once).
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings>tracert www.eve-online.com
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms homeportal.gateway.2wire.net [172.16.0.1]
2 17 ms 13 ms 13 ms adsl-75-3-127-254.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [75.3.127.254]
3 13 ms 10 ms 13 ms dist2-vlan62.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [99.164.169.129]
4 13 ms 13 ms 9 ms bb2-g3-0.chcgil.ameritech.net [151.164.190.122]
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms ex1-p0-0.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.42.147]
6 13 ms 11 ms 11 ms as22822-llnw.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.250.170]
7 17 ms 12 ms 13 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
8 39 ms 35 ms 39 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
9 46 ms 43 ms 38 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
10 122 ms 120 ms 127 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
11 132 ms 133 ms 137 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
12 130 ms 141 ms 133 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 119 ms 120 ms 119 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 122 ms 120 ms 122 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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"Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Preston FateForger
The Elear
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:49:00 -
[189]
I had about 4-5 random disconnects in a row tonight. California, AT&T ISP, but all my other internet connections were fine and running, TS was never interrupted.
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The Elear EVE Video |
OilSlick Rick
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:50:00 -
[190]
Still having multiple disconnects this evening in California.
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Aslord
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:51:00 -
[191]
chinese subs are trying to tap the cable between US and UK, but they mess up.
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Thorindor
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:51:00 -
[192]
On East Coast and EVE reached an almost unplayable level. Random disconnects, often is spurts. I'm on ATT and my connections perfect.
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy
Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:52:00 -
[193]
and yet again the internet fails, and it's all CCP's fault!
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Aslord
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:55:00 -
[194]
its al gore fault, he invented the internet!
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MrSmack
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:55:00 -
[195]
multiple disconnects 
Location: Arizona
ISP: Cox Cable
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Super Whopper
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Posted - 2008.06.22 05:59:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Aslord
chinese subs are trying to tap the cable between US and UK, but they mess up.
I'm in China and while I lag I don't DC. Your pathetic attempt at trolling failed.
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Aslord
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:04:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Aslord
chinese subs are trying to tap the cable between US and UK, but they mess up.
I'm in China and while I lag I don't DC. Your pathetic attempt at trolling failed.
im sorry, didnt mean to offend. let me take off my tinfoil hat.
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Clinically
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:05:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Obsequious Woe
In Australia... just in the last few hours I've had multipal disconnections.
Making it pretty much unplayable.
This
________________
Originally by: Evil Thug
I wear pink panties.
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Illuvian
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:05:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Aslord
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Aslord
chinese subs are trying to tap the cable between US and UK, but they mess up.
I'm in China and while I lag I don't DC. Your pathetic attempt at trolling failed.
Your pathetic attempt at missing humor succeeded.
Metus improbos compescit, non clementia.
It is fear, not kindness that restrains the wicked. |
Haru Itari
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:08:00 -
[200]
Been disconnecting quite a bit in the past few days.
California, USA
Using SBC AT&T dsl
Other games like Team Fortress 2 don't seem to have any problem, nor general web browsing.
Quote:
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 54 ms 15 ms 13 ms bras44-l0.pltnca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.184.124]
3 12 ms 17 ms 11 ms 64.164.107.1
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms bb1-g3-0.pltnca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.43.54]
5 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms ex2-p12-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.94.47]
6 20 ms 44 ms 56 ms tge8-4.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [208.111.152.69]
7 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
8 72 ms 82 ms 68 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
9 130 ms 72 ms 74 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 94 ms 95 ms 196 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 170 ms 173 ms 177 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
12 263 ms 167 ms 173 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 162 ms 161 ms 161 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 163 ms 161 ms 185 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Galztheg
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:13:00 -
[201]
Also having issues.
Location in Northern VA
Fiber optic service from Verizon.
Get dropped 5 times in a row.
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Lep Erd
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:16:00 -
[202]
Problems from West Chester, PA on Verizon FIOS and Northern Virginia on Comcast Cable.
-l
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Ragnar Darkstar
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:20:00 -
[203]
Dallas, Texas, AT&T highspeed internet. Having serious problems here.
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Striferz
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2008.06.22 06:21:00 -
[204]
Seattle, Washington Comcast and no problems here... Dunno whats up.
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Celarnor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:22:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Celarnor on 22/06/2008 06:23:34
Edited by: Celarnor on 22/06/2008 06:22:32
Yeah, no. Not fixed at all. I'm getting between 10 and 30 percent packet loss once I starting hitting *.lon.llnw.net.
It's been getting worse all night, and at this point I can't be in game for more than a few seconds. I've been disconnected about 16 times over the past hour or so.
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Yasumoto
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:22:00 -
[206]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
We are aware of problems that players are having connecting to Tranquility.
....
Update 2: These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.
Unfortunately, the issue hasn't cleared up. DC'd 10+ times over the past 2.5 hrs.
Location: U.S.
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BobbyCarter
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:23:00 -
[207]
Just gave up in frustration, heres my tracert
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 14 ms 16 ms 9 ms
3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms
4 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms
5 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms core3-toronto12_POS13-3.net.bell.ca [64.230.163.93]
6 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms core1-chicago23_pos13-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.147.18]
7 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms bx4-chicagodt_POS3-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.178]
8 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms peer-limeligh_bx2-chigagodt.net.bell.ca [64.230.186.182]
9 39 ms 48 ms 49 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
10 39 ms 44 ms 49 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
11 122 ms 123 ms 123 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
12 132 ms 141 ms 132 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
13 142 ms * 142 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] <-fail!
14 119 ms 119 ms 119 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
15 121 ms 121 ms 122 ms 87.237.39.199
Heres to hoping my ships don't get ccp-wnd due to me being unable to pilot them overnight :p
Might be time to start ISP shopping CCP, at least get a decent backup on lockdown so your ISP doesn't take your reputation down with it. A lot of players don't read the forums, and won't know this isn't entirely your fault.
I say 'not entirely' because you should have a plan for things like this.
Live and learn
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:24:00 -
[208]
Still dropping, this is fun btw.
Don't hate me, learn to love me |
Takashi Koby
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:38:00 -
[209]
Had this problem for a few hours yesterday...solid connection for most of the day until about 2 or 3 hours ago...back to disconnecting over a half-dozen times in the last hour.
LOCATION:California, US
ISP: Road Runner (Time Warner)
TRACERT:
Tracing route to eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms buffalo.setup [192.168.2.1]
2 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.246.88.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms cpe-76-166-3-116.socal.rr.com [76.166.3.116]
4 6 ms 24 ms 10 ms tge9-1.tjgaca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [76.166.1.63]
5 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms tge1-1.tjgaca1-rtr2.socal.rr.com [76.166.9.7]
6 10 ms 10 ms 8 ms tge9-4.bwlaca1-rtr3.socal.rr.com [76.166.1.65]
7 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms tge9-3.bwlaca1-rtr2.socal.rr.com [76.166.1.6]
8 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms tge9-2.bwlaca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [76.166.1.4]
9 * 13 ms 10 ms tge2-2-0.lsanca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [66.75.161.201]
10 11 ms 13 ms 14 ms ae-3-0.cr0.lax00.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.66]
11 12 ms 23 ms 18 ms ae-0-0.pr0.lax10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.133]
12 15 ms 15 ms 13 ms tge11-2.fr3.lax.llnw.net [69.28.144.149]
13 15 ms 24 ms 14 ms ve6.fr4.lax.llnw.net [69.28.171.206]
14 22 ms 21 ms 26 ms tge1-3.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.118]
15 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
16 103 ms 81 ms 84 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
17 99 ms 91 ms 77 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
18 95 ms 98 ms 96 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
19 104 ms 98 ms 100 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
20 178 ms 179 ms 184 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 189 ms 184 ms 190 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
23 186 ms 187 ms 187 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
24 185 ms 190 ms 187 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:45:00 -
[210]
Its kind of funny watching eve drop a few thousand players on the server every couple of minutes.
It sucks not being able to play though.
-K
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Manipulator General
o.0
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:45:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Rob Rectum
montreal canada here Sympatico Bell isp. You theory have no sense
Well......erm....said?
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Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:52:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Joskken Inx on 22/06/2008 06:52:20
I broadcasted my weekly internet show through the first few disconnects, and even as I tried to reconnect I never lost my server stream so it's quite safe to say it's not on my end. I actually have been reading and doing Yahoo answers for the last hour, periodically checking if I can log in more than a few minutes (I can't) and even goign so far as to try Sisi. The problem(s) are affecting both Tranq and Sisi, as I'm disconnected just as fast on either server.
Hope you guys have a bead on what's doing this, I tried to do a tracert from myself in Phoenix, Arizona (US) and the damn MSDOS window keeps closing on me towards the end.
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Billy Merc
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:52:00 -
[213]
Aussie here...10mbit connection and im gettin this....
Tracing route to eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
2 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 172.18.112.209
3 26 ms 26 ms 24 ms 172.18.70.58
4 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms CPE-61-9-210-7.qld.bigpond.net.au [61.9.210.7]
5 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms TenGigabitEthernet9-3.woo2.Brisbane.telstra.net
[139.130.185.181]
6 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms TenGigE0-8-0-2.woo-core1.Brisbane.telstra.net [2
03.50.51.129]
7 38 ms 37 ms 38 ms Bundle-POS2.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50
.6.201]
8 37 ms 38 ms 37 ms Bundle-Ether1.oxf-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50
.6.90]
9 37 ms 37 ms 38 ms 10GigabitEthernet14-0.sydo-core01.Sydney.reach.c
om [203.50.13.42]
10 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms i-10-0.syd-core03.net.reach.com [202.84.221.85]
11 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms i-4-2.sydp-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.13]
12 228 ms 227 ms 228 ms i-0-0.wil-core03.net.reach.com [202.84.143.209]
13 189 ms 188 ms 189 ms static.net.reach.com [202.84.251.154]
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 187 ms 192 ms 187 ms ve6.fr4.lax.llnw.net [69.28.171.206]
16 201 ms 200 ms 199 ms tge1-3.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.118]
17 201 ms 199 ms 199 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
18 254 ms 254 ms 255 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
19 253 ms 264 ms 252 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
20 277 ms 278 ms 286 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
21 278 ms 288 ms 277 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
22 368 ms 362 ms 362 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
23 375 ms * 379 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
24 372 ms 376 ms 373 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
25 373 ms 375 ms 374 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
26 376 ms 376 ms 371 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
dam internetz
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theteck
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Posted - 2008.06.22 06:58:00 -
[214]
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7805/87237382003ic3.png
my pingplotter to the problem
i see the problem start between llnw.net network ...
between where i ping to 16 in america and where its transfert to london hub ...
i send email to [email protected]
that the first answer
receive a update and when i receive answer i post it here
We have received your request and are currently investigating it. As soon as we have a update we will let you know. Thanks for choosing Limelight.
Ian Wolf
Limelight Networks
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Fury1980
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:03:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Fury1980 on 22/06/2008 07:03:30
lol @ limelight networks.......bet their SLA is gettin a beating today
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uglyMcGee
Null n Void
Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:15:00 -
[216]
Still seeing disconnects.
Surrey BC Canada.
Shaw cable
ugly
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Miagi Sans
|
Posted - 2008.06.22 07:16:00 -
[217]
i just had 5 in 30 mins. Optimum Online Cable service in NY
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Lord Jita
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:17:00 -
[218]
Constant disconnects tonight, 2 or 3 happen just now back to back. I emailed LLNW some traceroutes hope that helps them figure it out.
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afiz
New Age Flying Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:27:00 -
[219]
Rogers - Canada High speed
Still getting disconnected here in Toronto ..
Even the eve online website keeps on going " page not found "
Not a good thing...
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SunYonker
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:30:00 -
[220]
Western Australia with IINET
Plenty of pain with connection issues since last couple of days
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Segge Bolled
Dirty Sexy Pilots
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:31:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Segge Bolled on 22/06/2008 07:33:17
Newcastle, Australia. 3 unresponsive-then-disconnects in the last 2 hours. Using Optus Broadband and so far their service status is still green. Meanwhile, no other internet issues being experienced other than with EVE.
EDIT: No issues until the last 2 hours, too
(Someone mentioned a cable getting snipped, anyone have a link to a report about it?)
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Iella Wesirri
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:32:00 -
[222]
Pennsylvania, USA. Many other corpies and allies are also experiencing these problems in the US and Aussieland. My bud in Connecticut, USA is not having these issues. Who wants to suicide him with me!
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Groves111
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:34:00 -
[223]
Melbourne, Australia. Was having issues at the time this thread was posted, was fine till now. Had 2-3 disconnects in the past 2 hours.
---
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Kurtuf Buttmeier
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:34:00 -
[224]
same problems here, Tallinn, Estonia.
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Per Bastet
B.O.O.M
Socius Tutaminis Velox
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:36:00 -
[225]
Belleville Ontario, Sympatico Bell is my ISP. and Yea it's Dropping alot.
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Slash Dawg
Jion Keanturi
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:36:00 -
[226]
I'm not having any connection problems whatsoever. However:
$> traceroute eve-online.com
traceroute to eve-online.com (87.237.39.199), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1) 3753.330 ms 5.118 ms 1.028 ms
2 5354b401.cable.casema.nl (83.84.180.1) 28.901 ms 70.815 ms 46.112 ms
3 10.0.17.2 (10.0.17.2) 9.787 ms 10.763 ms 9.612 ms
4 5350043a.cable.casema.nl (83.80.4.58) 100.250 ms 173.629 ms 152.245 ms
5 fr3.ams.llnw.net (195.69.145.133) 13.975 ms 8.281 ms 16.802 ms
6 tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.94) 27.720 ms 19.696 ms 22.201 ms
7 ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.138) 24.706 ms 27.100 ms 16.061 ms
8 ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net (87.248.208.150) 18.507 ms 18.318 ms 18.012 ms
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *
14 * * *
15 * * *
Don't know why my connection is perfect.
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Kamar Deythal
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:39:00 -
[227]
West Coast, Canada, Shaw Cable. I can do everything I want to on the internetz except to play Eve, the one thing I WANT to do.
I's sad.
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Shardiss
Medecins sans Planetes
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:39:00 -
[228]
Edited by: Shardiss on 22/06/2008 07:39:54
15 drops in less than an hour.
Las Vegas, Nevada, via Cox Communications.
Everything else seems to go through fine.
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orderNumber37
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:44:00 -
[229]
i am in southern california with verizon DSL and i have disocnnected just as many times as everyone else over the past 3 days...about 5-6 times a day, and i noticed it happened around the same time +/- an hour each of the 3 days.....for me anyway
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:46:00 -
[230]
Edited by: Joe Starbreaker on 22/06/2008 07:46:52
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Update 2: These issues appear to be cleared up. If this is incorrect, please make sure you post about it to let us know.
These issues are NOT cleared up.
Los Angeles, California, USA. AT&T DSL.
.
Seeking frigateers!
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:47:00 -
[231]
I'm not having these problems. I got both clients booted while traveling the night before the complaints started rolling in and haven't had a hiccup since.
Here's my tracert just in case it's in anyway useful or interesting.
Quote:
Tracing route to eve-online.com [87.237.39.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 24 ms 5 ms 9 ms <my local service provider>
2 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms <my local service provider>
3 7 ms 6 ms 9 ms 74.128.8.233
4 16 ms 18 ms 19 ms te-4-1.car2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.250.1]
5 18 ms 27 ms 18 ms ae-32-52.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.62]
6 19 ms 30 ms 18 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.41]
7 42 ms 48 ms 47 ms ae-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.132.66]
8 36 ms 43 ms 36 ms ae-62-62.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.82]
9 46 ms 46 ms 39 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.65]
10 112 ms 105 ms 119 ms ae-41.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.137.65]
11 106 ms 106 ms 107 ms ge-11-2.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.169
]
12 108 ms 107 ms 108 ms unknown.Level3.net [212.187.160.146]
13 112 ms 107 ms 107 ms 217.20.44.226
14 130 ms 229 ms 271 ms 217.20.44.138
15 109 ms 112 ms 108 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
I have no idea who or what Level3.net is but it looks like they're taking me all the way to blighty. Otherwise I haven't got clue one about networking stuff except that I can tell you when the damn thing ain't working.
___________________________________________
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Adeimantus Qir
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.22 07:53:00 -
[232]
I believe it is ccp. ccp never admits fault. Stop the counting of days on time remaining on accounts, as people cannot play until its fixed. You cannot launch valuable fighters or any drones as you may get disco'd and come back to the loss of millions. You cannot run millitary ops due to disco's for fear that you will come back to jack ****t. I have not even read this thread even though i have known about it for some time. I am now responding, and reading this thread due to "it has been fixed" being posted. IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED! I firmly believe a solution is due more than "its all good now guy and fixed, and sorry about the days you lost and could not play". What about all the ships lost? I wish CCP would for once make a thread and ACTUALLY respond in it, not let it flame to "wildfire" status. Can we get atleast an hourly or bi-hourly update CCP?
Thanks,
- PAYING CUSTOMER
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Celarnor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:05:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Adeimantus Qir
I believe it is ccp. ccp never admits fault. Stop the counting of days on time remaining on accounts, as people cannot play until its fixed. You cannot launch valuable fighters or any drones as you may get disco'd and come back to the loss of millions. You cannot run millitary ops due to disco's for fear that you will come back to jack ****t. I have not even read this thread even though i have known about it for some time. I am now responding, and reading this thread due to "it has been fixed" being posted. IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED! I firmly believe a solution is due more than "its all good now guy and fixed, and sorry about the days you lost and could not play". What about all the ships lost? I wish CCP would for once make a thread and ACTUALLY respond in it, not let it flame to "wildfire" status. Can we get atleast an hourly or bi-hourly update CCP?
Thanks,
- PAYING CUSTOMER
The problem isn't with EVE itself, nor anything that CCP can necessarily do right now. The problem is with the path between many of their users and the server at which it is located. Companies like CCP pay other CDNs, companies (in this case, LimeLight networks) to provide internet connectivity and content distribution. The problem is that LimeLight managed to massively screw something up somewhere in their internal routing, and data is being lost in transit. This is causing your disconnects. CCP can't go over to their datacenter and fix the problem; as a paying customer of LimeLight, they have to rely on them to live up to their SLA and provide as much uptime as they can; I'm sure they've done their share of complaining, and whether their CDN wants to fix it or not, there isn't anything they can do about it other than wait for them to fix their network or cancel their agreement with them and go elsewhere.
It's not entirely their fault. I say entirely because they should have a backup plan for when their CDN dies like this. They should have hourly positional and economic data synchronized at another colocation facility somewhere with a different backbone provider for when stuff like this happens.
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Phroneo
Southern Cross Incorporated
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:08:00 -
[234]
Then perhaps after CCP gets compensated by Limelight, they can compensate us :)
--
It may be that the old astrologers had the truth exactly reversed, when they believed that the stars controlled the destinies of men. The time may come when men control the destinies of stars. ACC |
Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:08:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Celarnor
The problem isn't with EVE itself, nor anything that CCP can necessarily do right now.
You might as well stop right there.
Quote:
I believe it is ccp. ccp never admits fault.
You're trying to use reason to confront an article of faith. Never works.
___________________________________________
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Celarnor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:16:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Phroneo
Then perhaps after CCP gets compensated by Limelight, they can compensate us :)
Unless their SLA is for 100% uptime (which is pretty much impossible), that's probably not going to happen. Even if their agreement guarantees 99% uptime, they're probably getting it. A few days of minute or two long intermittent connection issues with years of service ... do the math if you like, but I'm willing to bet that they're delivering what their SLA stipulates.
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Phroneo
Southern Cross Incorporated
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:30:00 -
[237]
My webspace provider gives a 99.9% up time thing and that is less than an hour...
--
It may be that the old astrologers had the truth exactly reversed, when they believed that the stars controlled the destinies of men. The time may come when men control the destinies of stars. ACC |
Roku Kotaki
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.22 08:52:00 -
[238]
My tracert
LOCATION: Montana, USA
ISP: Bresnan Communications
Tracing route to www.eve-online.com [87.237.39.199] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 4 ms <1 ms 1 ms my wireless router
2 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms *** (my isp)
3 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms *** (my isp)
4 12 ms 10 ms 7 ms *** (my isp)
5 19 ms 20 ms 18 ms 66.62.160.61
6 49 ms 48 ms 48 ms den1-core-02.360.net [66.62.4.2]
7 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms lax1-core-01.360.net [66.62.3.41]
8 49 ms 48 ms 62 ms lax1-edge-01.360.net [66.62.5.131]
9 55 ms 50 ms 50 ms ge3-17.fr4.lax.llnw.net [68.142.78.121]
10 66 ms 68 ms 68 ms tge1-3.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.118]
11 67 ms 80 ms 68 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
12 131 ms 125 ms 123 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
13 132 ms 125 ms 131 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
14 155 ms 151 ms 152 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
15 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
16 226 ms 221 ms 222 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
17 179 ms 179 ms 238 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
18 181 ms 180 ms 196 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Another location for you guys.. obviously problems with a couple of llnw.net routers.. your isp sucks, CCP! Get a new one. 
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Bobby2006
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.06.22 09:27:00 -
[239]
C'mon guys.
I got 15 disconnects in the last half hour. I`m paying from what? To see the logging screen every 2 minutes ?
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Durethia
Black Plague.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 09:40:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Bobby2006
C'mon guys.
I got 15 disconnects in the last half hour. I`m paying from what? To see the logging screen every 2 minutes ?
I must admit, the login screen is pretty hot.
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Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.06.22 10:00:00 -
[241]
Today I was experiencing severe lag and disconnects in a system with only 20 in local. I then logged out of that toon and into my alt in Oursulaert, where there was over 200 in local. No lag at all. Logged back into the system with 20... lag still there.
Logically, it would seem to me if I'm experiencing the connection issues in one system but not another, it wouldn't be an issue in between myself and the EVE servers... but this of course is speculation.
Just reporting what I've experienced today.
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Calvin Okone
LSP Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.22 12:37:00 -
[242]
So after looking at a lot of the traces from folks all over the spectrum, I am guessing 80ms to EVE is not so bad. I wished I had taken samples when I first started playing EVE, because back then (2006) it seemed like the game was a wee bit faster for me. Now when I click the icon for ship fitting sometimes it takes 30 seconds to display. Buying stuff from the market also takes a bit more time to complete the transaction. For now I will leave it be, as this might be due to hardware problems. CCP this is a great game, keep it running as long as you can. |
Varsorise
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Posted - 2008.06.22 13:36:00 -
[243]
Guys look your lucky you can login i can even get past the login stage as i have no connections to the servers and this has been since the patch.this is very VERY frustrating cause i cant train any skills or any thing. I have tried reinstalling it through both steam and straight off the site and still NOTHING.
I connected to another internet connection and still i get no eve not only is this a problem but I PAY FOR THE PROBLEM.
All i ask is that there is a better reason for this, because there is no way a certain amount of people can be effected and the other part are just fine.
PLEASE FIX
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.06.22 13:55:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Calvin Okone
So after looking at a lot of the traces from folks all over the spectrum, I am guessing 80ms to EVE is not so bad. I wished I had taken samples when I first started playing EVE, because back then (2006) it seemed like the game was a wee bit faster for me. Now when I click the icon for ship fitting sometimes it takes 30 seconds to display. Buying stuff from the market also takes a bit more time to complete the transaction. For now I will leave it be, as this might be due to hardware problems. CCP this is a great game, keep it running as long as you can.
The delays you describe are almost certainly due to server load and not connection speed. That you experience longer delays today is not surprising...especially if you are in a crowded system like Jita. If you flew to the UK and went to their datacenter and plugged your PC in there I expect you'd see the same delays.
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"Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Serret Nevets
The Hull Miners Union
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.06.22 15:00:00 -
[245]
This issue has not been resolved.
3 disconnects in the past 2 hours.
Huge Lag in Syndicate/Placid region. All locals in all systems are complaining.
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T'Amber
anomandaris demaleon
Vaccaei Imperial
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Posted - 2008.06.22 16:18:00 -
[246]
When theres a problem (Regardless of who's fault it is), just remember that CCP and their Staff have made this awesome game for us to play, given us all the expansions for free (When other major MMORPGs make u pay), probably put in many hours of their own time into helping us get what we want, and **** happens that is out of everones control! (To list just a few reasons.) Even if it was their fault (which i think highly unlikely) I would forgive them in a second. Look what they have given us.
Realistically guys! $14 US = about $20 in my country.
$20 will get you a 1/2 dozen beers, which effects last from around 1 - 5hours.
$20 will get you 1 month of eve, of which you probably spend all your spare time playing.
This isn't even taking into the fact that its probably not even their fault!
So learn some respect and patience! Its the internet for #s sake, **** happens, so deal with it.
T
a n o m a n d a r i s . d e m a l e o n
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Miss Artica
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Posted - 2008.06.22 16:35:00 -
[247]
We had to end our OP Early because all BUT 3 of our 12 man gang were getting disconnected... Fix this problem CCP... I really doubt it was some other internet since all our guys could do other things but eve So lets get the ball rolling and stop passing the buck CCP.
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T'Amber
anomandaris demaleon
Vaccaei Imperial
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Posted - 2008.06.22 16:44:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Miss Artica
We had to end our OP Early because all BUT 3 of our 12 man gang were getting disconnected... Fix this problem CCP... I really doubt it was some other internet since all our guys could do other things but eve So lets get the ball rolling and stop passing the buck CCP.
Sorry, I'm sure you are aware that not all packets get sent through the same pipes.
The problem they suggest is completely plausible, and yes it is highly probable that you will have no issues with any of your other internet services as they're possibly/probably on/use completely unrelated servers or in different countries.
T
a n o m a n d a r i s . d e m a l e o n
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Kyguard
Game-Over
Consortium Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:46:00 -
[249]
Happening again...
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Miss Artica
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:48:00 -
[250]
Wow... not 24 hours after the last round of problems, the same thing is happening... And that *** link on internet health is showing everything as golden... CCP you have a problem. Fix it, we pay you to play this damn game and you cant even keep your freaking servers from disconnecting people... thats sad.
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Hadrian kadath
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:50:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Hadrian kadath on 23/06/2008 01:51:04
oops
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Hadrian kadath
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:51:00 -
[252]
Same as above. I'd like to know wtf is going on. I just got booted in the middle of attack of drones twice.
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Moraguth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:51:00 -
[253]
Holy Cow... dropped 7 times in the past 25 mins. what is going on today!!!
nowhere near jita.
good game
Hoc filum tradit - This thread delivers.
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RogueWing
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:52:00 -
[254]
Crashing constantly here (southern USA) and I never have any problems.
Wierd internet problemz.
If goons are giving you "respect" on CAOD, you pretty much know what you just did was a pile of ****. |
Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:54:00 -
[255]
still happening, this is like 5 days easy now. can we get a resolution timeframe on this?
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R'yleh Kadath
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:55:00 -
[256]
Anyone have a clue as to where to find or reapply that optional patch?
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Kozak
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:56:00 -
[257]
The issues are not cleared up. I live in NYC and have been disconnecting non stop. Everything else works, downloads go through fine and Teamspeak is fine, but EVE disconnects every minute to a few.
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Soulcrow
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:57:00 -
[258]
Dropping every minute now, was ok for while, but not anymore...this is Toronto AND Wisconsin, same timing, different ISPs completely, so it DOES look like a "local" CCP problem...no more excuses plz, just update on the fixes.
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Motasolo
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Posted - 2008.06.23 01:58:00 -
[259]
Problem NOT Fixed. WTF X 10.... Gave up again for the second day, over 15 disconnects, screw this crap.
Cant get anything done at all, I also say reimburse us for days lost of service. My cable company has that policy :P
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Alexander Omega
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Posted - 2008.06.23 02:01:00 -
[260]
This is all on CCP since limelight networks is their third party, word is that CCP hasn't been in contact that much with llnw which is their obligation, the only reason CCP figured this out so fast is because some players contacted limelight directly about it and limelight hadn't heard word one about it from CCP. Great game, crap game company.
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Summer River
Rotaries Are For W4nkers
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Posted - 2008.06.23 02:26:00 -
[261]
Edited by: Summer River on 23/06/2008 02:27:04
I have been getting disconnects on my main and my alt. This happens on different computers while my TS connection stays up. I get a 300ms ping time from Auckland, New Zealand to the servers.
I have noticed that sometimes when I come back on my ship is still in the place it was when my connection dropped, drones are still orbiting and I am still in fleet (this is in a gate camp situation) even though I got a connection lost.
Edit: The alt referred to above is not this forum alt.
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Rhaven
Praetorian BlackGuard
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Posted - 2008.06.23 02:47:00 -
[262]
yea still happening.....
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 11 ms 9 ms 11 ms 10.35.0.1
3 13 ms 16 ms 16 ms gig15-0-1.austtxrdcsc-rtr1.austin.rr.com [24.27.
13.213]
4 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms gig5-3-0.hstntxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [72.179.205.
36]
5 22 ms 25 ms 18 ms ae-2-0.cr0.hou30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.108]
6 22 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.181]
7 17 ms 19 ms 19 ms tge7-2.fr3.dal.llnw.net [208.111.158.81]
8 44 ms 49 ms 49 ms tge5-3.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.198]
9 44 ms 44 ms 50 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 72 ms 75 ms 77 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 63 ms 75 ms 72 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
12 156 ms 147 ms 150 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
13 160 ms 164 ms 155 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
14 154 ms 154 ms 164 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
15 156 ms 159 ms 155 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
16 159 ms 157 ms 154 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms 10.35.0.1
3 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms gig15-0-1.austtxrdcsc-rtr1.austin.rr.com [24.27.
13.213]
4 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms gig5-3-0.hstntxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [72.179.205.
36]
5 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms ae-2-0.cr0.hou30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.108]
6 20 ms 22 ms 19 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.181]
7 32 ms 22 ms 25 ms tge7-2.fr3.dal.llnw.net [208.111.158.81]
8 44 ms 43 ms 49 ms tge5-3.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.198]
9 61 ms 49 ms 50 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 64 ms 71 ms 73 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 72 ms 70 ms 75 ms ve2002.fr4.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.202]
12 147 ms 147 ms 145 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
13 158 ms 156 ms 161 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94]
14 155 ms 164 ms 155 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
15 159 ms 154 ms 156 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
16 155 ms 163 ms 159 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.35.0.1
3 19 ms 13 ms 11 ms gig15-0-1.austtxrdcsc-rtr1.austin.rr.com [24.27.
13.213]
4 19 ms 25 ms 19 ms gig5-3-0.hstntxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [72.179.205.
36]
5 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms ae-2-0.cr0.hou30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.108]
6 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.181]
7 20 ms 19 ms 23 ms tge7-2.fr3.dal.llnw.net [208.111.158.81]
8 59 ms 49 ms 49 ms tge5-3.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.198]
9 53 ms 49 ms 49 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
10 63 ms 73 ms 75 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 142 ms 136 ms 135 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 136 ms 136 ms 135 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
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Retsil Evad
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.23 02:52:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Napro
Edited by: Napro on 21/06/2008 03:10:38
So I petitioned my Pod-loss due to disconnect... and CCP says it's not going to do it because to do so would open the window for massive exploitation of the petition system.
Hmm.
You KNOW there was a connect problem for hundreds/thousands of users(since you made this thread, obviously)
Yet, You imply that I may be exploiting the petition system and therefore I get no reimbursement.
Do you admit there was a problem or not? How can I be an exploiter when you yourselves admit in this thread that there was a problem?
Man, you must be really fit jumping to conclusions like that.
What they are saying is that if they reimbursed simply on someone saying "I lost my XXXX with 99999999999 isk of loot/cargo/exotic dancers when I disconnected" then they would be inundated by people who have just lost a ship in a fight pulling the plug on their connection and claiming it was lost through disconnect, not through game play.
A while ago, while still flat broke and a 0.0 noob, I lost a scorp with around 100 mill of cargo due to egtting disconnected when I decloaked on a warp from a gate just as a bunch of reds came into the gate. Lag? Dunno. I bore it on the chin after filing a petition and having it turned down due to nothing showing on the logs.
It is, after all, just a game.
============== Office use ONLY ==============
BRING BACK EVE TV!!!!!!! |
Summer River
Rotaries Are For W4nkers
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Posted - 2008.06.23 02:59:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Seeker Danonai
I am still having disco issues
That is because disco is dead
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Tishlin Veredici
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:06:00 -
[265]
The disconnects seem to begin every evening aroun 6:00 PST. Perhaps the load is highest then? Who knows, though this is really disturbing to me.
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You don't have to be mad to work here, but it helps. |
Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:12:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Vespa Orebane on 23/06/2008 03:12:38
someone got a reply from Lime Light
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=803712&page=4#108
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Dotard
Suddenly Samurai
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:14:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Retsil Evad
A while ago, while still flat broke and a 0.0 noob, I lost a scorp with around 100 mill of cargo due to egtting disconnected when I decloaked on a warp from a gate just as a bunch of reds came into the gate. Lag? Dunno. I bore it on the chin after filing a petition and having it turned down due to nothing showing on the logs.
It is, after all, just a game.
Ya so what. A while ago a previous corp mate and I were ij a mission. He disconnected, petitioned and got his Raven back all in under 30 minutes.
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Nerf You! Buff Me!
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Retsil Evad
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:33:00 -
[268]
Originally by: BhallSpawn
You think this is the only time eve has had connection issues?
Nope, and it won't be the last]
Quote:
I get dropped from this game about 2 or 3 times a day.
And before you open your mouth don't go saying its my computer or my net connection.. getting dropped has been going on from day one.
If this is constatly happening then you may need to look at issues outside the Eve server network. I have spent whole days connected on multiple clients or weeks on end in the weekday evenings from the other side of the world without having an issue. And then there have been times when I could not connect at all. Those times it turned out to be capacity issues with my ISP.
This has been on both DSL and dialup connections and even playing on a computer while running the client from a USAB drive.
If you are experiencing issues every day then clearly you are looking in the wrong direction as if this was a CCP problem then there would be an endless stream of threads, including me, about the problem.
And here is a hint for you. The quickest way to get an IT person to stuff your problem to the bottom of the biggest stack of papers in the slowest moving intray they can find is to constantly whinge about same thing. Kinda like what you have been doing in this thread, although I notice that you have been quiet over the last couple of days. And the reason I know this? I have worked in IT support for nearly 15 years and was using modems when 14.4kb was an expensive wet dream to a geek.
Treat your support geek nicely and they will look after you well. Annoy them and watch your problems multiply. Harass them by asking them repeatedly when something will be done and watch them ignore you more effectivly than a floater clears a swimming pool.
============== Office use ONLY ==============
BRING BACK EVE TV!!!!!!! |
Summer River
Rotaries Are For W4nkers
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:43:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Summer River on 23/06/2008 03:44:47
Damn. Wrong toon
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Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:59:00 -
[270]
I've had no problems after downtime until about 3 hours ago. Got a single bump off, thought well...maybe it was because I went afk for 20min (I know Sisi does that to you, I'm just used to thinking that)
About an hour after that, I got disconnected again. Now the frequency is picking up, and in the last 15 minutes I've been disconnected 3 times now.
I don't know if this is a precursor to another night of this but it's time to just dock up and twiddle our thumbs I guess.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Central Research Nexus
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:07:00 -
[271]
Whatever the heck is going on: 1, Viator: 0
Surprisingly I don't drop during the massive blob fest in Old Man Star, only when I'm running around grabbing loot to make some isk to keep fighting. Conspiracy much?
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Brugar
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:33:00 -
[272]
I am in Wisconsin, USA.
I use Roadrunner ISP.
I stay connected almost all day, but around 8pm Central time, I start dropping every 5 to 10 min.
If at work, I drop constantly on AT&T DSL.
Hope this helps.
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Lord Jita
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:35:00 -
[273]
Goin on 4 days unable to play eve. Just happened again right now
Target Name: www.eve-online.com
IP: 87.237.39.199
Date/Time: 6/23/2008 12:30:53 AM to 6/23/2008 12:32:23 AM
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 75 ms 7 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms [10.47.192.1]
3 8 ms 7 ms 68 ms 8 ms 10 ms 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10 ms gig-3-1-nycmnys-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.104.169]
4 10 ms 8 ms 208 ms 8 ms 9 ms 10 ms 14 ms 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms pos-1-0-nycmnyl-rtr2.nyc.rr.com [24.29.100.13]
5 10 ms 97 ms 178 ms 41 ms 8 ms 10 ms 8 ms 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms tenge10-0-0-nycmnya-rtr1.nyc.rr.com [24.29.119.181]
6 34 ms 66 ms 182 ms 15 ms 11 ms 20 ms 12 ms 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms tenge-0-3-0-nwrknjmd-rtr.nyc.rr.com [24.29.97.6]
7 18 ms 64 ms 152 ms 9 ms 36 ms 9 ms 12 ms 10 ms 12 ms 16 ms ae-4-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.78]
8 15 ms 36 ms 124 ms 11 ms 11 ms 14 ms 65 ms 10 ms 18 ms 15 ms ae-1-0.pr0.nyc20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.163]
9 15 ms 15 ms 93 ms 15 ms 15 ms 20 ms 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms 15 ms tge6-3.fr4.lga.llnw.net [208.111.134.209]
10 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 113 ms 104 ms 105 ms 104 ms tge8-1.fr3.ams.llnw.net [69.28.171.85]
11 82 ms 84 ms * * * * * * * N/A tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
12 83 ms 83 ms * * * * * * * N/A ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
13 84 ms 86 ms * * * * * * * N/A ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
14 88 ms 83 ms * * * * * * * N/A [87.237.39.199]
Ping statistics for www.eve-online.com
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 3, Lost = 7 (70.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 83ms, Maximum = 88ms, Average = 85ms
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burek
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:45:00 -
[274]
Australia here. Been happening for 4 days now BUT I've noticed when I'm online after DT, no disconnects. The worst seems to be if I jump on during US timezone. Can't stay on for longer than a handful of minutes. |
Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:56:00 -
[275]
Edited by: Joskken Inx on 23/06/2008 04:56:02
DSL Reports reccomended using PingPlotter, and after having it up and monitoring the tracert to 87.237.39.199 for the last 15 minutes, you can see just before the destination it spikes into red/bad. The address giving the trouble is listed as ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net (87.248.208.150)
Everything else looks great except that second to last hop.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
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Posted - 2008.06.23 05:26:00 -
[276]
C:\DOCUME~1\NUNYABIZ>tracert http://www.eve-online.com
Unable to resolve target system name http://www.eve-online.com.
C:\DOCUME~1\NUNYABIZ>tracert 87.237.39.199
Tracing route to 87.237.39.199 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms nunyabiz
2 27 ms 27 ms 28 ms nunyabiz
3 31 ms 29 ms 30 ms 10.245.225.17
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms 12.126.193.33
6 104 ms 104 ms 103 ms tbr1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.81.54]
7 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms cr2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.19.21]
8 130 ms 118 ms 103 ms cr1.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.31.193]
9 105 ms 106 ms 105 ms tbr1.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.23.154]
10 104 ms 103 ms 103 ms 12.122.111.17
11 105 ms 107 ms 104 ms 12.87.189.114
12 115 ms 109 ms 116 ms ve5.fr3.sea2.llnw.net [69.28.171.77]
13 106 ms 113 ms 109 ms tge2-2.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.145]
14 109 ms 118 ms 108 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210]
15 157 ms 152 ms 153 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65]
16 155 ms 153 ms 154 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42]
17 179 ms 178 ms 178 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194]
18 250 ms 249 ms 250 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126]
19 250 ms 249 ms 260 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138]
20 257 ms 258 ms 258 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
21 249 ms 251 ms 249 ms 87.237.39.199
Trace complete.
C:\DOCUME~1\NUNYABIZ>
Lag and disconnects across the board. Not just eve for me. Loosing websites, other games, general internet connectivity issues from Hawaii. On Hawaiian telecom DSL.
Storm
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Ahsekuaw
Brother Theo's Monastery
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Posted - 2008.06.23 05:41:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Brugar
I am in Wisconsin, USA.
I use Roadrunner ISP.
I stay connected almost all day, but around 8pm Central time, I start dropping every 5 to 10 min.
If at work, I drop constantly on AT&T DSL.
Hope this helps.
I'm also in Wisconsin using Roadrunner. I logged in at 11:00 PM CST. I've been dropped at least 4 times in the space of an hour. I appreciate your efforts to work with the backbone providers. Now please pwn them...
Ahs
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.23 05:54:00 -
[278]
Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 23/06/2008 05:55:04
please stop reading too much into your traceroutes all
Most devices on the internet's backbone ratelimit. Your icmp packets are about the lowest priority possible for them, in short
1 35ms 30ms 35ms
2 * * * request timed out
3 40ms 40ms 40ms
that tells you 2 things. jack and $#*(
ping plotter et all neat little tools. same deal. useless except for showing you the path.
want to know if you have packet loss to the server? type "ping 87.237.39.199 -t" in your command prompt and watch it go. if it times out then yes, you have packet loss or if your taking huge blocks of timeouts perhaps your momentarily losing route someplace
lets say you do get packet loss AND the above traceroute.
this still doesn't indicate your issue is on hop 2.
its just about impossible for users to troubleshoot their isp's/some 3rd party backbone. best you can do is ***** at YOUR isp until they take the issue up with the next guy and so on until someone that knows wtf they are doing fixes it.
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Zyz'yx
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.23 06:26:00 -
[279]
Still disconnecting. Just lost a rack of berserker II's. Will drone losses be replaced?
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.23 06:43:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 23/06/2008 05:55:04
please stop reading too much into your traceroutes all
Most devices on the internet's backbone ratelimit. Your icmp packets are about the lowest priority possible for them, in short
1 35ms 30ms 35ms
2 * * * request timed out
3 40ms 40ms 40ms
that tells you 2 things. jack and $#*(
ping plotter et all neat little tools. same deal. useless except for showing you the path.
want to know if you have packet loss to the server? type "ping 87.237.39.199 -t" in your command prompt and watch it go. if it times out then yes, you have packet loss or if your taking huge blocks of timeouts perhaps your momentarily losing route someplace
lets say you do get packet loss AND the above traceroute.
this still doesn't indicate your issue is on hop 2.
its just about impossible for users to troubleshoot their isp's/some 3rd party backbone. best you can do is ***** at YOUR isp until they take the issue up with the next guy and so on until someone that knows wtf they are doing fixes it.
Pinged. Same latency - 250ms. Tells me nothing different than I already knew. I have crap for a connection from the ATT route on out. On a side note, a website here on Maui pinged at an incredible 3ms (go figure).
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Posted - 2008.06.23 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: Gen Eng on 23/06/2008 07:52:48
It's definitely still happening. I'm on the West coast USA, and just lost my first fully equipped Raven that just locked in a mission, as I was warping out. Disconnected...and then I come back to a cheerful green pod.
Depressing.
In addition, everything else is also very slow to update. The asset window, market window, rigging...etc. Everything is taking two or three seconds longer than normal.
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Atsuko Yamamoto
The Nietzian Way
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 08:10:00 -
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West Coast US, still disconnecting no matter what time of day.
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Mou'adib
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2008.06.23 11:08:00 -
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Ok i've had about enough of this. Can we please get some form of responce from CCP that anything is even being done about this.
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Clkte Flrke
GIT-R-DUN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Clkte Flrke on 23/06/2008 11:34:58
Edited by: Clkte Flrke on 23/06/2008 11:34:24
i lost connection 2 times sunday afternoon. i live in illinois. my corp mate in kansas city is still losing connection. but another corp mate in michigan is not...go figure.
btw, i was losing connection before i patched and after patching.
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Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 23/06/2008 05:55:04
please stop reading too much into your traceroutes all
Dude it's either looking for an answer or making one up myself, what else are you supposed to do when you're hyper-caffeinated at 2am and haven't been able to undock all night?
I like pingplotter though, it makes me feel like I'm smart (and I barely am)
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Thargat
North Star Networks
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Thargat on 23/06/2008 16:49:43
Welcome to the wonderful world of telecommunications folks.
ISPs and network companies need to invest massive ammounts of money on expensive hardware. This in an age when most investors want to wait for new network-technologies that are on the horizon. So instead of investing massive ammounts of money on hardware to solve congestion related issues the ISPs turn to software instead. Traffic shaping applications and software solutions is the name of the game and is becomming more and more common (everyone else does it, why shouldn't we?, a very common CIO question). DCs might be congestion (due to inadequate hardware investments/bad netbudgets) or trafficshaping or both. From what I've seen it's seems to be a growing trend and there's very little the end-user can do about it.
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Ziku
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Posted - 2008.06.23 19:24:00 -
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I'm using Comcast broadband, I downloaded the optional patch, I have not experienced the disconnects. Hope this halps ;)
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Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:30:00 -
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Just a sugestion.
Next time do not make us wait till Monday to start a brand new thread addressing this same problem. Lime should have been dropped on 20th not waiting till the following Monday to address it.
Thanks
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.25 11:46:00 -
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Connecting from Portugal - still experiencing a number of lockups / stalls and disconnects.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.04 06:47:00 -
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I would just like to mention that it still is happening, to me at least...
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