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Sorlac Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:17:00 - [61] My question to the OP is did ZA pop up an alarm for eve.exe like everyone is assuming or did it pop up a message for CCP.EXE (or even CCP EXE) as he said it did in his OP? If its the former then I would have to go with it being a false alarm, but if its the latter then you will really want to do a through scan of your computer becuase there is NO ccp.exe or CCP EXE file for EVE so you may have picked up something from elsewhere.
Gimpb	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:26:00 - [62] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny oh noes! CCP is trying to get my account info! I started laughing when I first read the thread title.
Dan Grobag Oyster Colors	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:33:00 - [63] Only thing strange I have is my msn messenger log when I click my charcacter portrait to enter the game, but that happened on an other game too.
brinelan Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:56:00 - [64] When in doubt of an infection / keylogger etc.. just format and reinstall windows. It is good practice to do regularly anyway. Once you suspect it has been compromised, youre ususally right.. once its compromised, you can never truly know if the system is clean. -------------------------- Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield
DiaBlo UK Precision Engineering	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:59:00 - [65] Originally by: CCP Navigator Originally by: Kaitana Edited by: Kaitana on 20/06/2008 11:48:04 Originally by: DK Metz shame... i thoght finaly ccp did something to the macro miners/ratters i was actually happy when i saw this post :(( the ccp came and broke it... saying they dont.. Maybe they want you to think that they don't log keys, because they really do, but then they knew someone would find out... so the company line is to deny it and send someone from the dev team who doesn't know out to deny it so that if it ever comes up again the first tier devs pretend like they don't know said they don't do it when they actually do, you see what I'm saying.... cuz god I don't. Pretty sure someone is selling tinfoil hats. You should buy one <3 can you put my advert in your bio? Originally by: CCP Navigator Pretty sure someone is selling tinfoil hats. You should buy one
Big Al Stoat's Ultimate Carebear Adventure	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:27:00 - [66] Right after I logged in this happened: http://stoat.org/eve/Keyslogged.jpg
Terminus adacai	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:34:00 - [67] Originally by: Little JitaGirl Well no **** it watches mouse movements and keystrokes - how else would it know what you're doing!? Did I just fall for a troll post? Could someone really be that daft? I got the warning to and told Zone Alarm NOT to allow it and the game plays just fine. Something is amiss.... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:35:00 - [68] Originally by: Big Al Right after I logged in this happened: http://stoat.org/eve/Keyslogged.jpg win
Empress Norton	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:37:00 - [69] CCP are stealing your EVE Online account details and then haxing your ISK.
Eleana Tomelac Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:18:00 - [70] Originally by: Terminus adacai I got the warning to and told Zone Alarm NOT to allow it and the game plays just fine. Something is amiss.... As I can talk in evevoice when not focused on the eve client, I guess eve is listening to events that happen out of its focus and that's why zonealarm is warning you. If you disallowed something by zonealarm, I guess it cut the eve client from listening things out of focus, but it still works fine when the window focus is on eve. Just try it, is your voice activation key (try with mouse button and keybord key) still working when not focused on eve? -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
Aypse D00M.	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:10:00 - [71] Have no fear my friend, all they want is your shemansex.com account login/password. Once they have this information, they will cease your key logger. Reducing the mechanics that reward blobbing: Eve-O Forum Link
Naomi Wildfire Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:13:00 - [72] ZA is so paranoid^^
Suvliana Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:16:00 - [73] Originally by: HadHaFangs Having recently upgraded my pc security to Zone Alarm internet security suite, last night when i opened eve, a warning message popped up from zone alarm warning me that CCP EXEfile is trying to monitor mouse movements, keystrokes on my computer. I will provide a screenshot later today, but can someone from CCP please explain whats happening as it is very worrying that a potential key logging attempt is being made by CCP, as this violates my personal information and security. Having read the posts following OP, and being a computer administrator with a spec in networking, ZA is not the type of program I would want watching my computer. I run EVE on my computer with no problems. And I have state of the art antivirus, firewall and survelliance software on mine. Does this mean I am paying way to much? Or just avoiding the crap on the market? And I agree with navigator, Tinfoil hats are available. You should get one.
Dihania Mucho Dolor	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:20:00 - [74] Originally by: CCP Navigator I would like to take this opportunity to clarify that CCP do not log keystrokes from any of our players. It is of course essential that we get mouse and keyboard input, just as any other software program but that that process is handled via regular Windows channels. I cannot tell you why Zone Alarm is giving you this message and suggest that you take the matter up with their support department. Navigator is navigating your computer and copying all your data. run for ze hills..... . EVE: "The Hand-holding Age". I need isk!Accepting donations. Renting sig space.Taking various jobs.
Rhanna Khurin	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:26:00 - [75] Originally by: InDa Hood Not only is CCP logging your keys and watching your mouse.... They are stealing food from your refrigerator too. Jerks stole my leftover pizza Mitnal stole my family size bag of cheetos from my cupboard! i saw him!
stupid flanders	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:33:00 - [76] I have had the same thing norton caught it and i blocked it with no affect on gameplay. And oddly enough all three accounts I have used to pay for eve have been subject to security breaches. Thats 3 accounts over 2 banks and one time EVE was the only transactions on that card.
Xaa House Arrakis	Posted - 2008.06.25 16:17:00 - [77] That CCP is sappin' my teleporter!
Viqtoria Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.06.25 16:40:00 - [78] Originally by: Suvliana Originally by: HadHaFangs Having recently upgraded my pc security to Zone Alarm internet security suite, last night when i opened eve, a warning message popped up from zone alarm warning me that CCP EXEfile is trying to monitor mouse movements, keystrokes on my computer. I will provide a screenshot later today, but can someone from CCP please explain whats happening as it is very worrying that a potential key logging attempt is being made by CCP, as this violates my personal information and security. Having read the posts following OP, and being a computer administrator with a spec in networking, ZA is not the type of program I would want watching my computer. I run EVE on my computer with no problems. And I have state of the art antivirus, firewall and survelliance software on mine. Does this mean I am paying way to much? Or just avoiding the crap on the market? And I agree with navigator, Tinfoil hats are available. You should get one. what are these state of the art programs so I can use them too :)
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2008.06.25 16:56:00 - [79] Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 25/06/2008 17:01:13 This "lolz tinfoil" crowd is escpecially entertaining considering eve's history. It took one day to find a critical security breach after eve's source code went "open source" by accident ... Not that i blame CCP for this particular accident, ZA is known for being overzealous. But i rather have a firewall that is too good than a firewall that is "thinking for me" and letting everything pass that hasnt been downloaded from shady foreign sites. After all, major companies like Sony would never commit crimes by installing rootkits on your machine, right?
Victor Valka Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:03:00 - [80] Originally by: Xaa That CCP is sappin' my teleporter! Time for a spie check, meh thinks! You will spawn as Pyro Originally by:* Roxanna Kell You are insane.
Kuseka Adama Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:06:00 - [81] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Xaa That CCP is sappin' my teleporter! Time for a spie check, meh thinks! *You will spawn as Pyro If thats an invitation you will find me on the IO servers (typically 2fort or the rotating one) I will enjoy burning you! ;)
Trojanman190 D00M. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:25:00 - [82] I don't understand why threds like this keep popping up.... If ccp really was found to have a virus or keylogger purposely put into their software do you really think they would survive as a company? Economic suicide...
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:30:00 - [83] Originally by: Trojanman190 I don't understand why threds like this keep popping up.... If ccp really was found to have a virus or keylogger purposely put into their software do you really think they would survive as a company? Economic suicide... boot.ini
GateScout	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:31:00 - [84] Originally by: Trojanman190 If ccp really was found to have a virus or keylogger purposely put into their software do you really think they would survive as a company? Economic suicide... You mean like Sony? Fail.
WA Dragon Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:43:00 - [85] Originally by: HadHaFangs Having recently upgraded my pc security to Zone Alarm internet security suite, last night when i opened eve, a warning message popped up from zone alarm warning me that CCP EXEfile is trying to monitor mouse movements, keystrokes on my computer. I will provide a screenshot later today, but can someone from CCP please explain whats happening as it is very worrying that a potential key logging attempt is being made by CCP, as this violates my personal information and security. Could be an informative post could be BS in any case the trolls in here wont let you get away with making sense they will flame and troll all over your post till its makes no sense at all. Give up now while you can. Move along now nothing to see. To be or not to be......sorry can you repeat the question?
nutbar State War Academy	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:56:00 - [86] There's a real simple fix to this folks... if you log in to your bank one day and notice money was taken out that you didn't authorize, simply petition the money loss and wait a week for CCP to reinburse you.
Jawas	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:07:00 - [87] Originally by: ZinderX500 Finally i managed to get rid of this stupid bloatware. Oh, so you ditched Vista then? There's no program you could call bloatware more than Windows. Getting back to the topic though. I got ZA and ditched it shortly afterward. I realised there was something wrong with ZA when it told me one program that wasn't even on my PC and wasn't an internet application was trying to access the internet. I did a search to try to find the offending EXE file, knowing it should not even be on my PC but, unsurprisingly, I came up empty. Several days later ZA did it again with another non-internet application, again, my search revealed that the program didn't exist. After a third time, I dumped ZA and looked elsewhere for a similar program. Since then, it has not surprised me that nothing has ever tried to access the internet when it was never intended. Far too many false positives from ZA. -- Sig design in training: Remaining time 30 years 20 days, 4 hours, 10 mins, 15 seconds.
Synapse Archae Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:08:00 - [88] I dunno about you guys but I've upgraded my tinfoil hat to transmit my will directly into eve. Sometimes if I fall asleep with it on, I wake up in the middle of lowsec with hauler wrecks all around me... - - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Matthew BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:42:00 - [89] Originally by: Eleana Tomelac As I can talk in evevoice when not focused on the eve client, I guess eve is listening to events that happen out of its focus and that's why zonealarm is warning you. It's eve voice. Turn on eve voice, and zonealarm will warn you that eve is trying to act as a server, and that it is listening for keyboard/mouse events. The first is perfectly normal for voice comms. The second occurs because the client is setting itself up to pick up your PTT key even when the client is not the active window. Again, this is pretty standard for voice comms, and is a perfectly legitimate reason to listen to inputs. I see exactly the same pair of warnings when using other voice comms software. Turn off Eve Voice, and zonealarm will stop bothering you. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Bahnny Infamous With Style	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:50:00 - [90] Just wow. Any program that has any form of input (messengers, irc, forums, internet explorer) "listens" to your key strokes/mouse movements. saying ccp is trying to log your account info and violating your privacy is just like the rumors a few years ago that microsoft was doing the same thing - what do you seriously think they are gonna gain by this exactly? think the developers gonna go home and put his daughter under your healthcare? sheesh. paranoid much

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