Originally by: Matrixcvd

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Lets make this simple for you.

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And thats where my head hurts from listening to your garbage. Its not simple. its not simple at all. there have been so many changes, you bring up the biggest changes to hit from 2004-2005 on a few ships, and when there was 10k on TQ, you fail hard in your current assessment its absolutely astoundingly ridiculous.

Screw nano, remeber what really happened in 2006? what type of gang ****ed people off while nano was just beginning to be developed?, INTY JAMMING FRIG GANGS, then the ECM nerf, then the HP Buff, then 20k moar on TQ, then invention then T2 market price crash, then rigs, then Nano BS nerf, now 30k on TQ and a boat load moar nubs PVPing thru FW, thats not so simple.

The tactics are there to beat nano, just cause you claim to pwn people in your zealot back in the day, which was probably a f*ckton of goons and kills nobody cares about, don't think you have some handle on why things are the way they are, cause you're just plain oversimplifying nano to the point of incorrectness

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Originally by: Victor Forge

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I dug up this old EvE tribune article. And the author defended Nano-ships by basically saying that counter Nano-ships with ships that wasn¦t Nano-ships themself was easy.

And then he explained...

I copied the article into Word-document used the tool in Words to see how may words he used to explain how "easy" it was.

He used 1475 words.

The article is here: http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=3_9&page=1

To sum it up: "All these tactics take teamwork, cooperation, and somewhat specialized setups."


The option to this takes just 3 words to explain: "Use Nanoship yourself"
And it doesn¦t take teamwork, cooperation and "somewhat specialized setups"

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Originally by: *****zilla

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They make up a large percentage of even fleets to hit POSs.

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Originally by: Matrixcvd

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Originally by: Goumindong

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If the tactics are there to beat nanos without nanos why is no one doing it?

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Fail FCs flying fail merlin, caracal, drake fleets dying in great numbers obviously aren't doin it right, but there are enough people who seem to get by without maxin out their credit cards buyin GTCs.

Come on man, statements like, "NOBODY CAN SURVIVE TO NANO" or "EVERYONE IS DYING TO NANO" or your fail statement "IF THERE ARE SO MANY TACTICS WHY ARE PEOPLE DYING"

easy answer, they die to better pilots, with better fits, with moar isk, with moar sp, with moar combat experience, with better FCs, and get lucky against the lag every now and again, is that as blatantly obtuse as you are?

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Originally by: *****zilla

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The issue is that the cookie cutter nanos have become fleet/blob standards. Speed is heavily favored over tank/dps.

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Originally by: Hijara

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just because some people nano, that should not mean everyone else has to nano. For that reason i think the game mechanic is broken.

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Originally by: Victor Forge

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I dug up this old EvE tribune article. And the author defended Nano-ships by basically saying that counter Nano-ships with ships that wasn¦t Nano-ships themself was easy.

And then he explained...

I copied the article into Word-document used the tool in Words to see how may words he used to explain how "easy" it was.

He used 1475 words.

The article is here: http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=3_9&page=1

To sum it up: "All these tactics take teamwork, cooperation, and somewhat specialized setups."


The option to this takes just 3 words to explain: "Use Nanoship yourself"
And it doesn¦t take teamwork, cooperation and "somewhat specialized setups"

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