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Mystikos
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Posted - 2004.05.16 16:56:00 -
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I think BDCI has a responsibility to release the name of the corporation that hired them. No disrespect intended, but what assurances does anyone have that you were actually hired?
Besides, if they didn't have 60M to start with, how, exactly, are they supposed to earn it if they have to worry about you destroying their ships while they're mining?
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Adrax
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Posted - 2004.05.17 12:28:00 -
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Just wondering does CCP consider it ok to use the words ôFilthy ****ö in a sig pic i.e. JezzebellÆs?
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.17 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Adrax Just wondering does CCP consider it ok to use the words ôFilthy ****ö in a sig pic i.e. JezzebellÆs?
No, but it helps when the email you sumbit actually works. Which is not always the case with some users
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Jezzebell
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Posted - 2004.05.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Originally by: Adrax Just wondering does CCP consider it ok to use the words ôFilthy ****ö in a sig pic i.e. JezzebellÆs?
No, but it helps when the email you sumbit actually works. Which is not always the case with some users
1.) Adrax = noob alt with one post. 
2.) So instead of deleting my sig you kill my entire post, Eris? What's up with that? _______________________________
"Hey, watch this!"
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dutchfreak
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Posted - 2004.05.17 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Let me take this opportunity to clear a few things up.
1.) I have no idea what other merc corps are experiencing, .... bla bla ....In closing, the choice to pay or fight is now in the target corp's hands. The CEO or her appointed representative may contact me in game to discuss terms whenever they please. Good luck to all involved.
I must say, after reading this post, it surely changed my perspective on Body Count Inc. and its CEO
Rock on dudes, tho i dont agree with your Role. We must agree to disagree right? ...Hell i might even join u if i get bored with mining 
Best wishes to you and yours, and to the opposite party offcourse, they must be in for one hell of a ride.
DF
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.17 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mystikos I think BDCI has a responsibility to release the name of the corporation that hired them. No disrespect intended, but what assurances does anyone have that you were actually hired?
Our responsibility is to our client who has paid us to do a job and keep his identity secret. If he or she wishes to speak up, that is thier choice.
I also see no need to assure anyone about anything, but I will say this: out of the literally hundreds of corps in EVE, are you suggesting that BDCI just arbitraily picked one to harrass? What gain or profit is there in such an enterprise? -
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Adrax
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Posted - 2004.05.17 13:04:00 -
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To Jezzebell,
Not an alt just donÆt play that much and not a forum troll (it was forum troll you said right?) so I donÆt post much (LoL more or less never actually).
But! since kids play these games I was just amazed of the thought that CCP might consider it OK to have those words in a signature picture, even more amazing is that you directly feel that you have to snap at me for pointing out something you should have understood was more or less wrong.
I have no problem with the general discussion in the post just thought that your signature was inappropriate (there is sadly enough material out on the net stating to often that girls are ******) donÆt need to feed that to the kids here.
Just out of curiosity are you a girl in RL? If so you do you have this sad way of looking upon yourself or?
Last line might be a bit out of line just felt I had to ask, no bad intentions just curiosity.
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Mystikos
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Posted - 2004.05.17 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mystikos on 17/05/2004 13:16:18 Hypothetical conversation:
: Guys, we've been losing a lot of ships lately, and the coffer's running low. We need to drum up some more business.
: But nobody seems to need mercs right now. What are we going to do?
: Let's mine!
: But I hate mining!
: Hmmm... Maybe if we declare war on a noob corp...
: Then we can mine?
: NO MINING! What will that do, ?
: Well, we can extort a few million isk from them in exchange for us not killing them.
: But if they're new, how are they going to have the money?
: They may not. But if we declare on someone and give it a really weird reason, they're bound to post on the Eve forums... That'd get us some business for sure!
: But who can we declare on...
: Drat! Some n00b in "The Freedom Fighters" mined my asteroid before I did! Let's declare on them!
: Hey, they're from EnB! Let's tell them that someone's got a grudge from that game, and wants us to take them out!
: Good thinking, .
: And then we can mine?
& : NO!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.17 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mystikos Hypothetical conversation:
<snipped>
An amusing post, Mystikos. I will treat this as you wanting a serious response, but will consider any other such posts as flame bait.
For one thing, BDCI is not hurting for money. The members of this corp are not alts. We spent a long time doing various other things before pooling all of our assests for a common vision. Those assests consist of ISK, ships, BPs, etc... Let it suffice to say that we are very confrotable with our current financial status.
I posted previously that there is a lot of animosity left over from E&B and that was not an exaggeration. For the most part, they seem to be a fine community and I welcome them to ours, but apparently there are some people who are still upset about a kill stealer in the Nifilum Cloud (spelling) or because someone got them killed and then refused to 'jump start' them, and so forth. These people see EVE's PvP enviornment as a way to get back at those who they feel wronged them.
It is not BDCI's job to counsel them and offer them solace, especially not when they are waving tens of millions of ISK in the air and asking if we would like to kill someone for them. 
I will agree that there is one thing about your hypothetical convo that is true: If person "C' were actually in my corp and babbling about mining, yeah, he would probably get yelled at a lot.  -
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2004.05.17 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Mystikos Hypothetical conversation:
<snipped>
I posted previously that there is a lot of animosity left over from E&B and that was not an exaggeration. For the most part, they seem to be a fine community and I welcome them to ours, but apparently there are some people who are still upset about a kill stealer in the Nifilum Cloud (spelling) or because someone got them killed and then refused to 'jump start' them, and so forth. These people see EVE's PvP enviornment as a way to get back at those who they feel wronged them.
Jesus christ nif huh well they must have a looooooooong memory and have little in there life cos nif has highest level mobs of about 35-40 i think and i dont think there was ever anyone in nif for months even n00b alts where taken to antares for power levelling on the 58's. ------------------------------------ There's one ***** in the world, one ***** with many faces |

Liliandra
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chippie MS
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Mystikos Hypothetical conversation:
<snipped>
I posted previously that there is a lot of animosity left over from E&B and that was not an exaggeration. For the most part, they seem to be a fine community and I welcome them to ours, but apparently there are some people who are still upset about a kill stealer in the Nifilum Cloud (spelling) or because someone got them killed and then refused to 'jump start' them, and so forth. These people see EVE's PvP enviornment as a way to get back at those who they feel wronged them.
Jesus christ nif huh well they must have a looooooooong memory and have little in there life cos nif has highest level mobs of about 35-40 i think and i dont think there was ever anyone in nif for months even n00b alts where taken to antares for power levelling on the 58's.
Um Chippie is it right? You do realize that Seleene was just using examples right? I am quite sure that "nif" as you call it was not the hottest spot in EnB, just one with an easy name to remember. Please try to understand the whole post, before you keep a dead thread alive trying to baffle us with your wisdom
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Adrax To Jezzebell,
Not an alt just donÆt play that much and not a forum troll (it was forum troll you said right?) so I donÆt post much (LoL more or less never actually).
But! since kids play these games I was just amazed of the thought that CCP might consider it OK to have those words in a signature picture, even more amazing is that you directly feel that you have to snap at me for pointing out something you should have understood was more or less wrong.
I have no problem with the general discussion in the post just thought that your signature was inappropriate (there is sadly enough material out on the net stating to often that girls are ******) donÆt need to feed that to the kids here.
Just out of curiosity are you a girl in RL? If so you do you have this sad way of looking upon yourself or?
Last line might be a bit out of line just felt I had to ask, no bad intentions just curiosity.
Please, someone think of the children.
Better yet, why don't you just STFU. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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El Duderino
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:25:00 -
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My advice chaps, don't pay that bunch of ***** hoe's a dime, use it as a learning experience, they will for sure get tired far sooner than u will, just b patient, careful, and learn learn learn 
Soon, like mebbe even a few weeks, u b well able to handle urselves against any foe's and remember, once u pay these hoe's ur setting up the next startup corp for a smackdown 
Fight to the death [:twisted:
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Chippie MS on 17/05/2004 14:33:01
Quote: Um Chippie is it right? You do realize that Seleene was just using examples right? I am quite sure that "nif" as you call it was not the hottest spot in EnB, just one with an easy name to remember. Please try to understand the whole post, before you keep a dead thread alive trying to baffle us with your wisdom
Right for a start ok i misread i thought it basically said that someone acted like a *****er in Nif my bad but if you played EnB and read it, it makes sense.
Secondly im not trying to baffle you with my wisdom cos if you ask any EnB player that knew me i know precisely squat i used to just point n shoot, I was just saying it was a dead sector so if someone got upset it was a long time ago.
Thirdly if your worried about keeping the post alive why the hell do you lot keep posting here?? I see a reply from you and seleene as the first ones after my post so you cant be that worried about it.
Dont take this as a flame/shouting/moaning/whine i was just pointing out my mistake/point. Btw BCI seem nice and friendly (except when ships go boom) but hey its all part of the game and its been fun/interesting so far...... now let me go buy a new frig 
Quote:
Fight to the death 
How many deaths?? ------------------------------------ There's one ***** in the world, one ***** with many faces |

Adrax
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Spurna
Originally by: Adrax To Jezzebell,
Not an alt just donÆt play that much and not a forum troll (it was forum troll you said right?) so I donÆt post much (LoL more or less never actually).
But! since kids play these games I was just amazed of the thought that CCP might consider it OK to have those words in a signature picture, even more amazing is that you directly feel that you have to snap at me for pointing out something you should have understood was more or less wrong.
I have no problem with the general discussion in the post just thought that your signature was inappropriate (there is sadly enough material out on the net stating to often that girls are ******) donÆt need to feed that to the kids here.
Just out of curiosity are you a girl in RL? If so you do you have this sad way of looking upon yourself or?
Last line might be a bit out of line just felt I had to ask, no bad intentions just curiosity.
Please, someone think of the children.
Better yet, why don't you just STFU.
I just love it when people show their real nature.
I just canÆt believe you start swearing over this, not that you spell it out but STFU I think we all know what it means.
Is this common policy in this corporation to respond with harsh words when someone points out a rule violation?
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.05.17 14:58:00 -
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This thread just made me want to join Body Count.
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adrax Is this common policy in this corporation to respond with harsh words when someone points out a rule violation?
It might be, do you have a problem with that too?
How long have you been playing this game? There is cursing going on all over the place. I would guess that there are not many children under the age of 16 that play this game. Most people that age could probably put my cursing to shame.
I would also guess that the average EVE player age is close to 25 or so.
If your so worried about children why don't you go volunteer at the YMCA and leave the rest of us mature people to our fun and games. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Spacehulk
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: El Duderino My advice chaps, don't pay that bunch of ***** hoe's a dime, use it as a learning experience, they will for sure get tired far sooner than u will, just b patient, careful, and learn learn learn 
Soon, like mebbe even a few weeks, u b well able to handle urselves against any foe's and remember, once u pay these hoe's ur setting up the next startup corp for a smackdown 
Fight to the death [:twisted:
Currently we are not paying. There have been skirmishes from both sides and its enough to say that both sides had their loses. Ours are not severe financialy though.
Yes its a learning experience and I have learned alot from the forums (the study materila is great) on deciding setups and tactics. As a Corp we are not even upset with Body Corp and actually are having a pleasant time. We are planning on taking loses, alot of loses and all of them as frigates 
Also I am deeply touched by responses I have obtained inside the game let alone here. I guess I have experienced only part of the community and most of it has been good if not great. 
I only wish I'd know who that little p***k is who hired them and I wonder if his Corp actually knows about it 
The Few The Proud The Freedom Fighters
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Adrax
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Spurna
Originally by: Adrax Is this common policy in this corporation to respond with harsh words when someone points out a rule violation?
It might be, do you have a problem with that too?
How long have you been playing this game? There is cursing going on all over the place. I would guess that there are not many children under the age of 16 that play this game. Most people that age could probably put my cursing to shame.
I would also guess that the average EVE player age is close to 25 or so.
If your so worried about children why don't you go volunteer at the YMCA and leave the rest of us mature people to our fun and games.
It might be, do you have a problem with that too?
No just wanted to know if you had any rules and ethics in your corporation.
How long have you been playing this game?
Since the beginning of May.
There is cursing going on all over the place.
Yes I have seen this and all I can say about it is that itÆs a shame that most MMORPGÆs bring out the worst in people (not all people but amazingly many of them).
I would guess that there are not many children under the age of 16 that play this game. Most people that age could probably put my cursing to shame.
Well that is the problem isnÆt it? Just because people are in a rather protected environment (no one knows your real name, where you live, and no risk of the person you curse will beat on you etc) many of they suddenly drop down to some caveman stage and cant use normal conversation to resolve differences in opinion.
I would also guess that the average EVE player age is close to 25 or so.
If your so worried about children why don't you go volunteer at the YMCA and leave the rest of us mature people to our fun and games.
Well there is a chance that youÆre a grownup but mature I think not, if you where you would not fall into sarcastic comments and swearing to make your point.
Thereby I rest my case there is nothing more to say I will not add more comments to this tread, those who understand what IÆm aiming at should have got the point by now.
And by the way stay of the boards there is just a lot of trollÆs on them. 
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Mystikos
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:02:00 -
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Seleene:
How much would it cost to find out who hired BDCI?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 17/05/2004 19:11:41
Originally by: Mystikos Seleene:
How much would it cost to find out who hired BDCI?
Ten beeeeeeeeeeeeeelion ISK!  
Seriously, the name is not for sale. We wouldn't get much work if the people that hired us had to worry about retribution later, would we?  -
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El Duderino
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Posted - 2004.05.18 13:02:00 -
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Simple guys, the buncha hoe's will get tired of hunting you soon enuf, there's little or no glory, bragging rights or isk for them, so keep em real busy, and u know what?
The hirer will then have to stomp up more and more isk to keep Hoe's Inc (BDC ) interested, so eventually you will outlast them both, and u will have gained mucho respect and learned how to handle urselves very well 
If u shorta isk lemme know, tiz only a morsel the jackals require to feel good bout their chosen role's in EVE 
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Spacehulk
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Posted - 2004.05.18 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: El Duderino
If u shorta isk lemme know, tiz only a morsel the jackals require to feel good bout their chosen role's in EVE 
This is just an example why we are in respect to the Eve community, the support it has. As far as funding and expenses we are doing well. Our losses as of yet have not even exceeded 5 mill isk (got to love ores and BPCs) and as a Corp we are learning to pvp quite well. As a Corp we have no short term (and currently no long term either) plans of giving up the war, we are enjoying it actually.
Give us another week as other members get their skills organized and the tables will turn. I think BDCI has already seen a change in combat outcomes. I don't have the official figures now but the kill ratio is about 1:2 in favour of BDCI (maybe a max of 1:3) but who cares if all we lost was Frigates and one blackbird.
We have given BDCI a professional attitude (since this is a game) and they have done the same and as a Corp none of us has a grudge against them (none of us has an immature attitude towards this).
My advice for all noob corps in our situation, don't be intimidated by any threats you recieve from any other corp. Our Corp had a lack of the needed skills but nothing 7-10 days wont fix in training and the prey will be the predator. 
The Few The Proud The Freedom Fighters
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:26:00 -
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Seleene: Those two videos you guys made, i would seriously consider to let someone ELSE pick the music. The videos in themselves were good but the music was absolutely horrid. It sounded like gollum was the leadsinger. ______________________
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Spacehulk Our Corp had a lack of the needed skills but nothing 7-10 days wont fix in training and the prey will be the predator. 
/emote claps happily at the thought of a prolonged and bloody war! 
Originally by: Admiral Pieg Seleene: Those two videos you guys made, i would seriously consider to let someone ELSE pick the music. The videos in themselves were good but the music was absolutely horrid. It sounded like gollum was the leadsinger.
Actually, his name is Bon Scott. 
AC/DC Linkage -
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:58:00 -
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heeh. Without compromising the Merc's contracts, and if you cannot deduce whom your fellow E&B refugees with a grudge are, hire your OWN mercs to engage BC. The fighting will be guaranteed professional engagements that way too .
IMHO try to trace the source. Don't bother asking any mercs, as any who would tell you are too untrustworthy to be believed, double edged sword there eh? 
You can believe that payment will have the stated effect, however it's entirely up to you. You may in fact lose greater financially by resisting, but you may also have more fun .
If this doesn't sounds like fun to you AND you don't want to give in, hire mercs. Good ones.
I mmmmmay also be pushing for this because i see it as an integral part of the story that more profit-minded, non-fighter corporations field and maintain private armies and mercenaries to protect their interests, coldwar stylo, and rarely engage directly, with Mercs who may have been side-by-side last week blasting each other today, many not knowing each others' true employers....
nah forget i said that 
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El Duderino
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:06:00 -
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All may not b lost for the 'ladies' of negotiable affection...
Any1 who licks a living by doing 'dirty deeds done dirt cheap' may well b on a 'highway to hell' but I still say to the startup corp, u got to just 'ride on' and sooner than u know they'll b 'shot down in flames' 
Damn, wez sure wez seen em in Slimelight few years ago, they wuz cheap n nasty then, but they sure look gooooooood 
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Baal SiTekgoru
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Posted - 2004.05.24 11:12:00 -
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Black Monkey Corporation is available for Mercenery work :D We're also cheap cheap cheap ! Ok ok we're not mercs, I just wanna fight Body Count 
They sound like fun targets, and my carebear CEO won't go to war with good fighters unless we get paid.
Or maybe he will ? Who knows. At any rate I want war. Any war will do. Someone please declare war on us now 
Black Monkey Corporation - Corporate Liquidators |

Henna Steele
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Posted - 2004.05.25 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Henna Steele on 25/05/2004 23:15:01 Seeing the war Escalate, even though it was rather onesided.. what with us doing most of the loosing of innocent little Kestrels, it was some shock to us to see BDCI swell their ranks with 'Sharks with friggin lazerbeams' (spelling?) We see no choice than to escalate ourselves, and have secured the services of Mercenaries ourselves for your amusement..
This can be stopped whenever BDCI feels prudent, just retract the war, and we'll shake hands and declare no (too) hard feelings..
-- Henna Steele - Freedom Fighters [FFS]
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Ezra
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Posted - 2004.05.26 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert 60M contract?
Peanuts, really, when you consider that barely covers the cost of replacing 2 fully insured battleships.
Not peanuts when you consider their corp is only 1 month old and has about 12 players.
It took my first corp at least 2 months to save up for a Vexor BPO... ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation |
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