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XxSapienxX
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
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Kayoss
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:32:00 -
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If game card prices are going up, you should buy the 90 day cards now and wait until they aren't be sold anymore. Since the price is pretty much the same for 60 days, the selling price for isk should be about the same. Say 400m isk for a 60 day card, if you thought ahead and bought the 90days you should be able to get 600m.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: R3DSKULL
how is a rebuttle to try to keep subject on track ironic? Because i want to talk about how lame CCP;s actions are nothing else is relevant.
you are probably a troll based on the joke corp name, but I will indulge. You said "who gives a damn about anyone else I live in America and so only dollars matter" and then you dissed me for being arrogant.
There you go, in a nutshell.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:58:00 -
[34]
Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
"We"?
So you're German? 
PS If you can't see that my post was directing a little mockery at both sides of the Atlantic, well...
... then I'll just say that there was no charge for keeping the 3rd Reich and Imperial Japan busy for 2 years while the US turned it's tragic joke of an army and air force into an awesome fighting force.
(Do American History books mention that the Russians did far more fighting and dying than both of us?)
Anyway, enough derailing. let's talk about GTCs. I can see why CCP did it, and while no-one likes a price hike, they have bills to pay. Yes, subscriber numbers have risen, but so have their employees. We don't pay for expansions or anything - their only income is from those subs. So where there is a situation where a large subset of players are paying quite a lot less than everyone else, it's only reasonable to expect them to close the loophole.
Me? I subscribe via credit card, because I'm lazy, and even paying UK sub prices (ow!), EvE is astonishingly good value as a hobby. 3 accounts for 3 months costs about the same as 1 big night out, or 2 rather average ones.
The additional sums being talked about here - I heard $2.50 per month - really shouldn't cause anyone any problems.
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Bald Rikk
The Legendary Fleet
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Posted - 2008.06.21 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Bald Rikk on 21/06/2008 08:54:11
Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
Bingo, nailed it. You used the words US based
Tell me, where are CCP based?
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Arouu
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Posted - 2008.06.21 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: JF Matarius
What has it got to do with the US economy anyway, CCP are based in Iceland....
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wat
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THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.21 09:57:00 -
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GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
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Skyraker7
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.21 10:23:00 -
[38]
Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
The first nuclear weapons were created in the United States by an international team, including many displaced scientists from central Europe, which included Germany, with assistance from the United Kingdom and Canada during World War II as part of the top-secret Manhattan Project....
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:05:00 -
[39]
Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Fair is fair i guess.... like many have said above me here. With exchange rates being the way they are.
I guess the problem is that exchange rates are mostly tied to imports/exports which is how you value your dollar/euro/pound/etc. Many of us have a hard time seeing that digital information like an MMO as an import or an export value to compare to and don't see how it applies simply because information of the internet has lead to instant exports.
So because I took econ I understand... I think they are trying to be nice to US customers by letting them keep their CC at 15 bucks a month even if GTCs are not... I thank them.. perhaps they will start taking my CC soon
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northwesten
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:19:00 -
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sod it I going to pay for 3 acounts for 12 months with my bank card. least i wont have to worry! unless they stoped that :/
Trinity Corporate Services
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Teclador
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:19:00 -
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I my Eyes the best way to deal with it is, to open the ability to train more
that one Char on a Account simultaneously, then the price increase is ok for me.
Otherwise this is totally unfair and dumb.
The pay methods worked now 5 years well, why not the next 5 years?
Or is there some brand new feature that take a lot of money to realize?
Well, i hope CCP deal with the Negative income, when thousands players close there 2nd, 3rd accounts...
Solong
Teclador
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Teclador
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:27:00 -
[42]
Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Well, thats live.
Why i should pay Ç14,95 when i can pay $14,95 instead, that is normal way of Market Physics.
Or did you by a Car for $10000 when you can get it for $5000?
Are you Bill Gates, with tons of $ in your Wallet? I'm not 
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Paaaulo
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:40:00 -
[43]
Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
Yeah right, i bet your knowledge of history comes from hollywood films that paint america as the heroes of WW2.
The reality is Russia did most of the fighting and had the most casualty's. Educate yourself before you make stupid statements.
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:47:00 -
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get over your self.
the euro is becomeing the new trade currency course your dolla is doing **** knows what going up and down like a drunken ***** lost at sea.
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:25:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Teclador
Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Well, thats live.
Why i should pay €14,95 when i can pay $14,95 instead, that is normal way of Market Physics.
Or did you by a Car for $10000 when you can get it for $5000?
Are you Bill Gates, with tons of $ in your Wallet? I'm not
You shouldn't.
And that's why people have been buying GTCs to supplement their European subs, and CCP have been losing approximately half of those subscriptions (if not more, because GTC extensions have more likelyhood of being idle than a rebilled account).
And in turn why CCP have moved to close the loophole that allows buying GTCs at the 'discount' rate. If you're in europe, you get the euro price. If you're in the US, you keep the discount rate if you pay by card.
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Saiutt
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:29:00 -
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Like everyone, I dont like prices going up. But my problem is not the price hike but the fact that Im stuck paying for 60 days at a time.
I usualy buy a month at a time and have over a month gap between each time I do. Apart from EVE being generaly the most fun MMO to play, a large part of why I play it is the skill system.. I dont need to play for ages constantly as I would with a game based on XP.
So now either I start paying for a month at a time with a CC which costs more (GBP), or I stop playing eve... And with these changes on top of the lame ass EA expansion I am seriously considering that option.
CCP's ploy to increase profits may not work as planned.
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Zinras
Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Saiutt
Like everyone, I dont like prices going up. But my problem is not the price hike but the fact that Im stuck paying for 60 days at a time.
I usualy buy a month at a time and have over a month gap between each time I do. Apart from EVE being generaly the most fun MMO to play, a large part of why I play it is the skill system.. I dont need to play for ages constantly as I would with a game based on XP.
So now either I start paying for a month at a time with a CC which costs more (GBP), or I stop playing eve... And with these changes on top of the lame ass EA expansion I am seriously considering that option.
CCP's ploy to increase profits may not work as planned.
Can I have your stuff? 
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
*moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
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Sarah Callisto
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:03:00 -
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Well, I've always bought US$ GTC's as I'm based in the UK. Makes the game very inexpensive (it was 90 days for approx ú20.) So we get a 35% effective price increase. Oh well, it's still cheap.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:34:00 -
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To all you foreigners out there, trust me when I say that even though the people in this thread make Americans look so bad please remember that in America we have a lot of freedom. Some people (like in this thread) choose to use their freedom to be freely ignorant. However, we are not all that way.
I only request that you give each American a fair shake if you encounter us while we are abroad and do not use broad generalities and hate on us, because while we have a lot of bad apples I am an American who understands economics and I do not want to be tarred with the same brush, I would rather get an honest shot and representing myself how I am.
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy
Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:36:00 -
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as a Canadian, I decry the possibility of reasonable Americans, then apologize for such inconsiderate statements in a passive agressive but clearly sarcastic manner!
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:38:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
as a Canadian, I decry the possibility of reasonable Americans, then apologize for such inconsiderate statements in a passive agressive but clearly sarcastic manner!
I will rage on American idiocy too as soon as my immigration documents are filed! (Canada, **** YEAH!)
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.06.21 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
I'd buy this argument if CCP didn't charge the same price on their own "eve store"
guess.
That's because if they kept the price the same on their eve store nobody would buy from the other retailers now would they?
And those people who couldn't buy them from the EVE store would have to pay more money just so everybody else can get off cheap.
Plus CCP is just as greedy as the rest of us...You're all b!tching and moaning about this, and just by doing so, are just as greedy as CCP for upping the price.
QED
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming |
WA Dragon
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.06.21 18:39:00 -
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I was told to buy isk off the net and use that to buy GTCs it aparently reduces the over cost by up to 40% not tried it but with things as they are its a temptation. I can see this type of this being taken up more offten knock on effect is more macos to gather the isk to sell, only ones geting screwed then are the GTC sellers. Which btw I am gutted about .......honest.
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Etchyboy
Firman AB
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.21 19:16:00 -
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I dont understand why is everytime there is anything to do with cost of game play it always ends up people bashing each other.............
Come on guys think about it. This has nothing ----->zero<----- to do with how strong or how weak one countries economy versus another. This has to do with CCP which I would like to point out is a corporation that has to make money. They see a way to fatten there coffers and they went for it.
/em puts on tin hat
I suspect the people who do start posting about the economy are trying to deflect. An may infact work for CCP themselves... hmmm
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Dapanman1
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.06.21 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
Sometimes I think people like you are just trying to perpetuate the international view of americans as stupid and fat.
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kiera0990
Deorbit Burners
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Posted - 2008.06.21 20:31:00 -
[56]
My country has a bigger **** then yours.
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Lothros Andastar
The Beer Barons
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Posted - 2008.06.21 21:06:00 -
[57]
Honestly, if you dont like it, go and quit.
I for one am happy to accept the first price rise in 5 years.
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