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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 01:59:00 -
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So you cant get 30, 90, 50, or 100 day time codes anymore it seems... I saw the change on the main page.
My problem is I had to start using GTC previously because the eve system was declining my card for what ever reason I just started buying them from shattered crystal. But an e-mail today they sent out says that I have to pay for 2 months worth of time now because of a change of product by ccp and unfortunately a price increase on top of that.
Why does CCP need to increase the price of the codes only. I checked SC and Eve store both have the 60 day at 35 USD which is $17.50 a month??? Where if you use the eve credit card system which keeps turning me away while I can still buy stuff everywhere else you only pay $15 bucks a month...
Isn't it unfair to charge the time codes an extra 2.50 a month?
Usually when you buy >1 month at a time you get some kind of discount not a price hike for buying more.
Perhaps its all a mistake but for some god awful reason the credit card billing dept at CCP wont take my Amex or Visa and I'm getting the hose--- Being minmatar you'd think I'd be used to it...
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:07:00 -
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Some hairball marketing scheme disguised as "standardization". Good luck getting the real answer... but enjoy the parade of theorycrafters that will come.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kaimon ValDreth on 21/06/2008 02:11:00
There is no theory to be crafted they hiked the price I want to know if it was intentional or if they plan to change it due to a mistake?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:14:00 -
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3 months of play is only $12.95 USD/month so yeah I would start a petition with CCP and find out why your card wouldn't be accepted.
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:14:00 -
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Afaik from the plethora of other threads on this subject CCP increased the GTC price to partially compensate for the US $ being such a turkey and to stave off increasing the monthly rate for card users.
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:15:00 -
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No crap thats what I'm saying... I just got a new card that im going to try when my current GTC runs out but what about people that just need to buy GTCs they getting screwed
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JF Matarius
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:16:00 -
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It means there's no difference between the price CCP charge and the price say, Shattered Crystal charge. I'm glad I just happened to buy a 90 day a few days ago. Saved about 20 bucks compared to the new prices.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
No crap thats what I'm saying... I just got a new card that im going to try when my current GTC runs out but what about people that just need to buy GTCs they getting screwed
all the current GTC will still work, they are just no longer a repleanishing supply.
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:17:00 -
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If they want to charge US customers more than all the other MMOs for exchange rates or what ever you want to call it they need to come out and say it.. I figured it might just be a mistake
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
but what about people that just need to buy GTCs they getting screwed
They can send a h8 mail to the sitting US Government for devaluing the US $ so much.
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JF Matarius
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:24:00 -
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What has it got to do with the US economy anyway, CCP are based in Iceland....
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:26:00 -
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A large percentage of subscribers are american and use US $ to pay.
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Kinkie Yuuki
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Posted - 2008.06.21 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: JF Matarius
What has it got to do with the US economy anyway, CCP are based in Iceland....
Many Europeans pay with US dollars using GTC's since CCP has not updated their prices ever since a dollar was rougly equal to a euro.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
If they want to charge US customers more than all the other MMOs for exchange rates or what ever you want to call it they need to come out and say it.. I figured it might just be a mistake
They did come right out and say it, you read it on the front page you nub. CCP is not cheating you, the mortgage crisis that Bush created is cheating you by making your currency 50% less valuable. Did you think that products would magically cost less because the dollar was worth less? Why do you think candy bars are priced in the thousands of yen...
The American dollar is not a magic currency.
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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 21/06/2008 03:04:00
Withdrawn, cba to post in another thread.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kinkie Yuuki
Originally by: JF Matarius
What has it got to do with the US economy anyway, CCP are based in Iceland....
Many Europeans pay with US dollars using GTC's since CCP has not updated their prices ever since a dollar was rougly equal to a euro.
this is the biggest issue, UK people can not pay the $ price with a CC however they could pay half price for the game and use a time card.
If you live in the USA use your debit card to buy game time it hasn't gone up, if you UK the $% is still cheaper.
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sahalie
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:32:00 -
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-> People going to GTC retailers based in USA and paying about 9-10 euro a month for their game time instead of 15 euro by purchasing game time codes in dollars.
-> People avoiding trial activation fees by applying GTC to trial accounts instead of paying $20 for first month.
-> US dollar devaluing compared to euro so CCP are getting less in value for their game. According to this link about 40% of EVE subscribers are from USA. This is a large chunk of players many of whom will leave if you bring USA subscription prices up especially that some other mmos cost $15 a month or less or are even free. So what they did if not raise subscription prices for USA or EU players but just raise their income indirectly and **** off only a very small % of players who cannot use a credit card or buy GTC with ISK.
-> CCP are forcing more people to pay with credit card. If you have ever paid with a credit card you'd know that it charges you automatically if you forget to cancel your sub. I got charged one time for about 6 months because i forgot to cancel and my previous sub i paid in 6 month increment. This is more income for CCP.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:36:00 -
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The reason why the hiked the price was because CCP was LOSING money on selling time cards to retailers, and then them selling them to the customer, because the retailer gets a part of the profit.
Retailer price = CCP gets less than 15 dollars a month
CCP Price = Gets 15 dollars a month
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kaimon ValDreth on 21/06/2008 04:24:33
Edited by: Kaimon ValDreth on 21/06/2008 04:23:48
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
The reason why the hiked the price was because CCP was LOSING money on selling time cards to retailers, and then them selling them to the customer, because the retailer gets a part of the profit.
Retailer price = CCP gets less than 15 dollars a month
CCP Price = Gets 15 dollars a month
I'd buy this argument if CCP didn't charge the same price on their own "eve store"
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
Tailoring GTCs to hurt a select group of people (isk sellers, char sellers, etc) is kind of sad. But like was mentioned above I was one of the select few percentage they could screw over and not worry so much as they are helping more than hurting. Greater good I guess.
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Banana Torres
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.21 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
But then most of their costs, like wage, rent, protection money to the local mafia, are in dollars. So it doesn't matter to them what the dollar is worth.
But because under the stewardship of the GOP the dollar has fallen so much in value then those companies that don't use the dollar need to raise the dollar price to compensate.
Which in turn leads to inflation in the US which will make the dollar even weaker which means that a month of Eve will soon cost as much as a gallon(US) of petrol.
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Kame Malice
Mitsukashi Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2008.06.21 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
But then most of their costs, like wage, rent, protection money to the local mafia, are in dollars. So it doesn't matter to them what the dollar is worth.
But because under the stewardship of the GOP the dollar has fallen so much in value then those companies that don't use the dollar need to raise the dollar price to compensate.
Which in turn leads to inflation in the US which will make the dollar even weaker which means that a month of Eve will soon cost as much as a gallon(US) of petrol.
Dont worry about the price of gas (as we call it here)
We Americans are learning to run our cars on shattered hopes and dreams... we find ourselves with a new, ritch and abundant fual source. :)
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R3DSKULL
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.06.21 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: R3DSKULL on 21/06/2008 05:58:48
Edited by: R3DSKULL on 21/06/2008 05:55:58
Frankly im ****ed,,, this sucks. No other way to say it. ive been paying for 3 accounts for 2 years using gtcs. I find the problem here is that they have not capped the sales values of gtcs. you could get a 30 day early on at 120mil and now they are 185mil??? ok free market for gtcs even if the price is silly. But then turn around and whine a about the real dollar amounts i dont care what the Eu value is!! Besides i thought this was a Iclandic company and the kronur is not worth as much as us dollar so they are still making more. So they pick the highest dollar and base if off that? Why not the pound isnt that the best so far? adjust it where you pay for the game. But having to pay more than 15 bucks a month for GTC is plain stupid. America has set the standard to the cost of MMOs. and With as many accounts as CCP has they can afford to keep the price fixed. They are just getting greedy. Simple as.. Look at pics of thier offices. They live a little rich. I wish my job had an in house chef. But hey in the end someone has to pay right. All i can say is i could rant on and on about this, and some capitalist tard will prolly flame me saying everyone has a right to be greedy, s#$2w anyone else. But Having to pay for 2 months now for gtc? WTF?? 300mil but sooner or later they will get stupid expensive because they can do. They need to cap this and say you cannot charge more than 300mil for GTCS...Its out of game so i dont care about ingame market comparos.. I hope american mmos start raising the price to the rest of the world for the game since our dollar value sucks. I mean its only fair right?  This is one of the lamest thing CCP has done and i dont see how this stops any isk sellers...
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:01:00 -
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Redskull, your typing style adds a lot of credence to the theory that only ignorant people are anti-capitalism, that and the things you said.
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R3DSKULL
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:15:00 -
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Edited by: R3DSKULL on 21/06/2008 06:17:14
And its amazing that arrogant people always love to condecend to others their weak ideals based on.. things as simple as how they type. Besides the issue and hand is easily interpreted so you should focus on this not avoid it by slandering me for my grammer, english typing style or whatever you can come up with to simpy avoid making a good point yerself. Typical
Shows your crediblity
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy
Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: R3DSKULL
Edited by: R3DSKULL on 21/06/2008 06:17:14
And its amazing that arrogant people always love to condecend to others their weak ideals based on.. things as simple as how they type. Besides the issue and hand is easily interpreted so you should focus on this not avoid it by slandering me for my grammer, english typing style or whatever you can come up with to simpy avoid making a good point yerself. Typical
Shows your crediblity
quoted for irony
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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R3DSKULL
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:22:00 -
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how is a rebuttle to try to keep subject on track ironic? Because i want to talk about how lame CCP;s actions are nothing else is relevant.
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Lucius Nahme
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:33:00 -
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if I need to explain the irony, you clearly need more help than I can provide 
yeah, its my alt, I am hiding from the drop bears
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kame Malice
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
But then most of their costs, like wage, rent, protection money to the local mafia, are in dollars. So it doesn't matter to them what the dollar is worth.
But because under the stewardship of the GOP the dollar has fallen so much in value then those companies that don't use the dollar need to raise the dollar price to compensate.
Which in turn leads to inflation in the US which will make the dollar even weaker which means that a month of Eve will soon cost as much as a gallon(US) of petrol.
Dont worry about the price of gas (as we call it here)
We Americans are learning to run our cars on shattered hopes and dreams... we find ourselves with a new, ritch and abundant fual source. :)
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
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Countess NotFarOut2
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:58:00 -
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Quote:
Many Europeans pay with US dollars using GTC's since CCP has not updated their prices ever since a dollar was rougly equal to a euro.
Is this true?! AFAIK I can only pay in euro's with my CC. How to pay in $? Quick, quick, before the $ price goes up again!
Oh, on topic: nomatter wat arguments or reasons are given, producers will always try to max the prices for their prodcuts. And why not? You can always decide not to pay the price because you think it's not worth it. If you pay the price, you can grumble, but still think it's worth it.
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Shinnen
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Countess NotFarOut2
Quote:
Many Europeans pay with US dollars using GTC's since CCP has not updated their prices ever since a dollar was rougly equal to a euro.
Is this true?! AFAIK I can only pay in euro's with my CC. How to pay in $? Quick, quick, before the $ price goes up again!
It's caled a currency conversion, say the exchange rate is ú1 = $2, then if I buy something for $15 (e.g. a GTC) then I'll be spending only ú7.5. But the company receives the money in dollars. Paypal does it automatically.
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XxSapienxX
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
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Kayoss
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:32:00 -
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If game card prices are going up, you should buy the 90 day cards now and wait until they aren't be sold anymore. Since the price is pretty much the same for 60 days, the selling price for isk should be about the same. Say 400m isk for a 60 day card, if you thought ahead and bought the 90days you should be able to get 600m.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: R3DSKULL
how is a rebuttle to try to keep subject on track ironic? Because i want to talk about how lame CCP;s actions are nothing else is relevant.
you are probably a troll based on the joke corp name, but I will indulge. You said "who gives a damn about anyone else I live in America and so only dollars matter" and then you dissed me for being arrogant.
There you go, in a nutshell.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.21 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
"We"?
So you're German? 
PS If you can't see that my post was directing a little mockery at both sides of the Atlantic, well...
... then I'll just say that there was no charge for keeping the 3rd Reich and Imperial Japan busy for 2 years while the US turned it's tragic joke of an army and air force into an awesome fighting force.
(Do American History books mention that the Russians did far more fighting and dying than both of us?)
Anyway, enough derailing. let's talk about GTCs. I can see why CCP did it, and while no-one likes a price hike, they have bills to pay. Yes, subscriber numbers have risen, but so have their employees. We don't pay for expansions or anything - their only income is from those subs. So where there is a situation where a large subset of players are paying quite a lot less than everyone else, it's only reasonable to expect them to close the loophole.
Me? I subscribe via credit card, because I'm lazy, and even paying UK sub prices (ow!), EvE is astonishingly good value as a hobby. 3 accounts for 3 months costs about the same as 1 big night out, or 2 rather average ones.
The additional sums being talked about here - I heard $2.50 per month - really shouldn't cause anyone any problems.
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Bald Rikk
The Legendary Fleet
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Posted - 2008.06.21 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Bald Rikk on 21/06/2008 08:54:11
Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
Also all the US based MMOs that are any good are getting by on 15USD a month...
Bingo, nailed it. You used the words US based
Tell me, where are CCP based?
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Arouu
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Posted - 2008.06.21 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: JF Matarius
What has it got to do with the US economy anyway, CCP are based in Iceland....
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wat
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THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.21 09:57:00 -
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GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
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Skyraker7
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.21 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
The first nuclear weapons were created in the United States by an international team, including many displaced scientists from central Europe, which included Germany, with assistance from the United Kingdom and Canada during World War II as part of the top-secret Manhattan Project....
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Kaimon ValDreth
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Fair is fair i guess.... like many have said above me here. With exchange rates being the way they are.
I guess the problem is that exchange rates are mostly tied to imports/exports which is how you value your dollar/euro/pound/etc. Many of us have a hard time seeing that digital information like an MMO as an import or an export value to compare to and don't see how it applies simply because information of the internet has lead to instant exports.
So because I took econ I understand... I think they are trying to be nice to US customers by letting them keep their CC at 15 bucks a month even if GTCs are not... I thank them.. perhaps they will start taking my CC soon
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northwesten
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:19:00 -
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sod it I going to pay for 3 acounts for 12 months with my bank card. least i wont have to worry! unless they stoped that :/
Trinity Corporate Services
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Teclador
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:19:00 -
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I my Eyes the best way to deal with it is, to open the ability to train more
that one Char on a Account simultaneously, then the price increase is ok for me.
Otherwise this is totally unfair and dumb.
The pay methods worked now 5 years well, why not the next 5 years?
Or is there some brand new feature that take a lot of money to realize?
Well, i hope CCP deal with the Negative income, when thousands players close there 2nd, 3rd accounts...
Solong
Teclador
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Teclador
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Well, thats live.
Why i should pay Ç14,95 when i can pay $14,95 instead, that is normal way of Market Physics.
Or did you by a Car for $10000 when you can get it for $5000?
Are you Bill Gates, with tons of $ in your Wallet? I'm not 
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Paaaulo
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:40:00 -
[43]
Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
Yeah right, i bet your knowledge of history comes from hollywood films that paint america as the heroes of WW2.
The reality is Russia did most of the fighting and had the most casualty's. Educate yourself before you make stupid statements.
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:47:00 -
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get over your self.
the euro is becomeing the new trade currency course your dolla is doing **** knows what going up and down like a drunken ***** lost at sea.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:25:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Teclador
Originally by: James Lyrus
GTC price merely switched to maching the euro price on subscriptions, rather than the dollar price. Once upon a time these numbers were about the same. Recently there has been a 2:1 imbalance, which has lead to many people in Europe getting discount game time by buying GTCs.
CCP haven't raised your price, they've just made it so the monthly paying subscribers aren't getting stiffed.
Well, thats live.
Why i should pay €14,95 when i can pay $14,95 instead, that is normal way of Market Physics.
Or did you by a Car for $10000 when you can get it for $5000?
Are you Bill Gates, with tons of $ in your Wallet? I'm not
You shouldn't.
And that's why people have been buying GTCs to supplement their European subs, and CCP have been losing approximately half of those subscriptions (if not more, because GTC extensions have more likelyhood of being idle than a rebilled account).
And in turn why CCP have moved to close the loophole that allows buying GTCs at the 'discount' rate. If you're in europe, you get the euro price. If you're in the US, you keep the discount rate if you pay by card.
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Saiutt
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:29:00 -
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Like everyone, I dont like prices going up. But my problem is not the price hike but the fact that Im stuck paying for 60 days at a time.
I usualy buy a month at a time and have over a month gap between each time I do. Apart from EVE being generaly the most fun MMO to play, a large part of why I play it is the skill system.. I dont need to play for ages constantly as I would with a game based on XP.
So now either I start paying for a month at a time with a CC which costs more (GBP), or I stop playing eve... And with these changes on top of the lame ass EA expansion I am seriously considering that option.
CCP's ploy to increase profits may not work as planned.
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Zinras
Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.06.21 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Saiutt
Like everyone, I dont like prices going up. But my problem is not the price hike but the fact that Im stuck paying for 60 days at a time.
I usualy buy a month at a time and have over a month gap between each time I do. Apart from EVE being generaly the most fun MMO to play, a large part of why I play it is the skill system.. I dont need to play for ages constantly as I would with a game based on XP.
So now either I start paying for a month at a time with a CC which costs more (GBP), or I stop playing eve... And with these changes on top of the lame ass EA expansion I am seriously considering that option.
CCP's ploy to increase profits may not work as planned.
Can I have your stuff? 
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
*moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
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Sarah Callisto
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:03:00 -
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Well, I've always bought US$ GTC's as I'm based in the UK. Makes the game very inexpensive (it was 90 days for approx ú20.) So we get a 35% effective price increase. Oh well, it's still cheap.
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:34:00 -
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To all you foreigners out there, trust me when I say that even though the people in this thread make Americans look so bad please remember that in America we have a lot of freedom. Some people (like in this thread) choose to use their freedom to be freely ignorant. However, we are not all that way.
I only request that you give each American a fair shake if you encounter us while we are abroad and do not use broad generalities and hate on us, because while we have a lot of bad apples I am an American who understands economics and I do not want to be tarred with the same brush, I would rather get an honest shot and representing myself how I am.
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Tortun Nahme
Umbra Synergy
Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:36:00 -
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as a Canadian, I decry the possibility of reasonable Americans, then apologize for such inconsiderate statements in a passive agressive but clearly sarcastic manner!
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Robert Rosenberg
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
as a Canadian, I decry the possibility of reasonable Americans, then apologize for such inconsiderate statements in a passive agressive but clearly sarcastic manner!
I will rage on American idiocy too as soon as my immigration documents are filed! (Canada, **** YEAH!)
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.06.21 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimon ValDreth
I'd buy this argument if CCP didn't charge the same price on their own "eve store"
guess.
That's because if they kept the price the same on their eve store nobody would buy from the other retailers now would they?
And those people who couldn't buy them from the EVE store would have to pay more money just so everybody else can get off cheap.
Plus CCP is just as greedy as the rest of us...You're all b!tching and moaning about this, and just by doing so, are just as greedy as CCP for upping the price.
QED
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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WA Dragon
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.06.21 18:39:00 -
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I was told to buy isk off the net and use that to buy GTCs it aparently reduces the over cost by up to 40% not tried it but with things as they are its a temptation. I can see this type of this being taken up more offten knock on effect is more macos to gather the isk to sell, only ones geting screwed then are the GTC sellers. Which btw I am gutted about .......honest.
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Etchyboy
Firman AB
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.21 19:16:00 -
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I dont understand why is everytime there is anything to do with cost of game play it always ends up people bashing each other.............
Come on guys think about it. This has nothing ----->zero<----- to do with how strong or how weak one countries economy versus another. This has to do with CCP which I would like to point out is a corporation that has to make money. They see a way to fatten there coffers and they went for it.
/em puts on tin hat
I suspect the people who do start posting about the economy are trying to deflect. An may infact work for CCP themselves... hmmm
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Dapanman1
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.06.21 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: XxSapienxX
Originally by: Malcanis
In the UK we're all hoping that you discover* a way to turn fat kids into petroleum.
*By which I mean that we'll discover it, but some American will get rich off it then Hollywood will make a film about how he discovered it.
Just like we discovered the a-bomb and saved your can.
We died for your freedom, I don't remember it the other way around or are American History books wrong there too ?
I used an alt ... so what
My mains are alts too
Sometimes I think people like you are just trying to perpetuate the international view of americans as stupid and fat.
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kiera0990
Deorbit Burners
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Posted - 2008.06.21 20:31:00 -
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My country has a bigger **** then yours.
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Lothros Andastar
The Beer Barons
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Posted - 2008.06.21 21:06:00 -
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Honestly, if you dont like it, go and quit.
I for one am happy to accept the first price rise in 5 years.
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