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Akeirah
Pixel Universe Brokerage Services
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:29:00 -
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This thread gives me a strange feeling of Deja Vu. |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
622
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:31:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:access to furture stuff even though there is a NDA with the CSM they are magically geared up to take advantage of the NERF
An NDA is a legally-enforced document-- if the CSM or the Goons brake an NDA, CCP's legal department will rip them to shreds with fines and legal actions. They don't have access to 'future stuff' any more than you or I do, beyond the discussion phase of things. Monoclegate: because calling it 'Doorgate' would just be silly. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1834
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:55:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:IMHO the announced NERF is going to be blamed on CCP & GOONs collaboration since goons have access to furture stuff even though there is a NDA with the CSM they are magically geared up to take advantage of the NERF & will end on top unfairly. Its does stink o conspiracy doesn't it?
Yeah because up until today we only fielded huge fleets of supercaps...  The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
980
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:58:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:[quote=Koranten]IMHO the announced NERF is going to be blamed on CCP & GOONs collaboration since goons have access to furture stuff even though there is a NDA with the CSM they are magically geared up to take advantage of the NERF & will end on top unfairly. Its does stink o conspiracy doesn't it? Yeah because up until today we only fielded huge fleets of supercaps... 
LOL
"MY SUPER COST MORE THAN YOUR AMMO!"
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:59:00 -
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Well I agree titans should be able to use at least ewar drones or what have you. I don't mind titans just murdering caps as that is their purpose. But I do think they should atvleast be able to fit light scouts. Please give this back to them. |

Pyrus Octavius
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:02:00 -
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Wow, I want the last 4 minutes of my life back. Why do I choose to waste my time with this drivel. Don't you have better things to whine about? Like your wife sleeping with your next door neighbor instead of you because you play this game too much? |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1034
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:06:00 -
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Koranten wrote:Goonswarm couldnt fight motherships so they contacted their developers and go then nerfed to have no role at all in game, it didnt matetr people spend years upon eyars with skills and cash to buy one.
Why are players buying titans and super carriers? Those are alliance level resources, and you should be prepared to lose it in combat from the moment you first board it.
Koranten wrote:- Inmediate layoff of CCP greyscale, its obvious he belogns to Goonswarm and is causign a great harm to our game.
You forgot CCP Screegs. You know, the guy that is covering up all the Goon alt sharing and RMTing and botting.
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Koranten
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:11:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Seriously screw you Homeworld 2, that **** is bullshit.
Yet you avoid the questions and the implications mittani style without giving any answer |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
77
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:19:00 -
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Actually that's just the beginning of the conspiracy. GOONS not only control CCP they control much more. CCP actually controls all of Iceland which means they control the Icelandic Olympic Ski Team. The Icelandic Olympic Ski Team have cumulatively purchased all of the English Isles in 1987 which means they control England. The Declaration of Independence was never verified in a court of law meaning that America is still under English control which means they have access to the CIA which is in control of the Men in Black who have successfully overthrown the Zoobadian government at Alpha Centauri and have stolen their spaceships in order to take over the rest of the world! |

ps3ud0nym
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
72
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:33:00 -
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Okay.. let me get this right. First OP says something along the lines of "A new player influx will never happen in EVE" then goes on to say that only numbers matter and that enough newbies in rifters can kill anything (Wah wah the blob). Which is it..? If there is no influx of new players, where would all these newbies in Rifters COME from?
I will give you this. I think that CCP is bending an ear and listening very carefully to what those in Goonswarm and TEST have to say. They would be monumentally stupid not to. When it comes to recruiting, both organizations have exactly the same ideas and both run neck and neck for some of the best new player training methods and materials in the game. You are talking tens of thousands of new players who have been brought in by Dreddit and Goonswarm alone. Lets just think about that. 10,000 *NEW* accounts is $149,500 a year in NEW revenue from subscriptions alone. Of course, between TEST and Goons over the last two years, far more than 10,000 new accounts have been created. A great many more. Dreddit alone gets between 200 and 500 applications a month, the vast majority from low SP characters who have just started or just re-subbed after a long absence. That means that TEST and Goons represent a increasing revenue stream for CCP.
With that kind of money on the line, you are really surprised that CCP takes a good hard look at the concerns raised by those new customers? Vets on the other hand, either are so engaged and have so much invested in the game that they are likely never to leave, or they get bitter or old or simply not interested so they stop playing. That is a player retention issue. As EVE continues to grow, obviously new player activations out weigh player churn. Vets are also less likely to buy ISK through the Plex system, so while they may get the requisite monthly fee from those accounts one way or the other, they are unlikely upsell them on other products available from CCP.
This is simply CCP listening to their customer base. TEST and Goons are very lucky to have a advocate such as Mittens, but you must realize that Mittens does what any good leader does: he finds out what his constituents want, and then he gets out in front and leads them there. He is very good at what he does, and he has the time and the energy to devote to his cause. There is no conspiracy here, just plain old good business sense and one extremely talented leader who knows how to get his constituents agenda actioned. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
865
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:48:00 -
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Jonhy la gente esta muy loca...WTF??? |

Koranten
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:50:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:Okay.. let me get this right. First OP says something along the lines of "A new player influx will never happen in EVE" then goes on to say that only numbers matter and that enough newbies in rifters can kill anything (Wah wah the blob). Which is it..? If there is no influx of new players, where would all these newbies in Rifters COME from?
I will give you this. I think that CCP is bending an ear and listening very carefully to what those in Goonswarm and TEST have to say. They would be monumentally stupid not to. When it comes to recruiting, both organizations have exactly the same ideas and both run neck and neck for some of the best new player training methods and materials in the game. You are talking tens of thousands of new players who have been brought in by Dreddit and Goonswarm alone. Lets just think about that. 10,000 *NEW* accounts is $149,500 a year in NEW revenue from subscriptions alone. Of course, between TEST and Goons over the last two years, far more than 10,000 new accounts have been created. A great many more. Dreddit alone gets between 200 and 500 applications a month, the vast majority from low SP characters who have just started or just re-subbed after a long absence. That means that TEST and Goons represent a increasing revenue stream for CCP.
With that kind of money on the line, you are really surprised that CCP takes a good hard look at the concerns raised by those new customers? Vets on the other hand, either are so engaged and have so much invested in the game that they are likely never to leave, or they get bitter or old or simply not interested so they stop playing. That is a player retention issue. As EVE continues to grow, obviously new player activations out weigh player churn. Vets are also less likely to buy ISK through the Plex system, so while they may get the requisite monthly fee from those accounts one way or the other, they are unlikely upsell them on other products available from CCP.
This is simply CCP listening to their customer base. TEST and Goons are very lucky to have a advocate such as Mittens, but you must realize that Mittens does what any good leader does: he finds out what his constituents want, and then he gets out in front and leads them there. He is very good at what he does, and he has the time and the energy to devote to his cause. There is no conspiracy here, just plain old good business sense and one extremely talented leader who knows how to get his constituents agenda actioned.
Sadly your logic is msot flawed, up until now not many people dared or ahd the strenght to poss a threat to Goonswarm/Test/Pets 40k man coallition, these few entities kept the state of 0.0 balanced one not being able to kill the other which kept the game dynamic and fun. One titans are nerfed there no single 0.0 entity capable of facing the Whole 40k man coallition hence it will grow and grow without any check which will in the future make the game unplayable and unfun.
If you dont understand this you know nothing about 0.0 and balance.
CCP has decided to shot themselves and break the fine balance that exited in 0.0, thansk god GW2 is comming.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1838
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:54:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Actually that's just the beginning of the conspiracy. GOONS not only control CCP they control much more. CCP actually controls all of Iceland which means they control the Icelandic Olympic Ski Team. The Icelandic Olympic Ski Team have cumulatively purchased all of the English Isles in 1987 which means they control England. The Declaration of Independence was never verified in a court of law meaning that America is still under English control which means they have access to the CIA which is in control of the Men in Black who have successfully overthrown the Zoobadian government at Alpha Centauri and have stolen their spaceships in order to take over the rest of the world!
Barack ******* Obama is a FYAD Superstar.
trololol @ forum filters The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

baltec1
807
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:59:00 -
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Koranten wrote:
Sadly your logic is msot flawed, up until now not many people dared or ahd the strenght to poss a threat to Goonswarm/Test/Pets 40k man coallition, these few entities kept the state of 0.0 balanced one not being able to kill the other which kept the game dynamic and fun. One titans are nerfed there no single 0.0 entity capable of facing the Whole 40k man coallition hence it will grow and grow without any check which will in the future make the game unplayable and unfun.
If you dont understand this you know nothing about 0.0 and balance.
CCP has decided to shot themselves and break the fine balance that exited in 0.0, thansk god GW2 is comming.
Because the massive superpowers of the past were never stopped from taking over all of EVE. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
865
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:01:00 -
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Alarm: this thread is now about politics |

Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
97
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:33:00 -
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I've never been affiliated with the Goons but as a dedicated subcap pilot I have no interest whatsoever in seeing nullsec turn (even more) into Capitals Online. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
56
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Misanth wrote:EVE, not EvE GëívGëí, not EVE.
EVE is spelled PvP Everyone verses Everyone. |

SpaceSquirrels
268
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:53:00 -
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MontyDon wrote:Kile Kitmoore wrote:Op, you just scratched the surface.
Rumor has it that both Mittani and Hilmar Petursson are members of Skull and Bones. Please be careful, dig to deep and wind up in a ditch.
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you!
I hear Mittani also played an important roll in making the Subprime mortgage crisis happen
I'm not sure but you might have gone to high brow for these here forums.
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Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:03:00 -
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Relax OP. GW2 is out soon.   |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
269
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:08:00 -
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Still not locked?
Ha-ha: IN!!! In irae, veritas. |

Hexus Draidin
Intersteller Masons Wonder Kids
32
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:25:00 -
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If EVE is being controlled by GoonSwarm, why are the billboards not displaying **** and why do I have yet to see a bridge troll at a stargate? I are disappoint. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
850
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:32:00 -
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hey crazy guy take your damn pills and stop playing video games lol |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
785
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:35:00 -
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I would point out everything the op had wrong, but i dont feel like typing tonight, plus he didnt post with his main so no respect. |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
251
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:54:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I love the goons just because of the amount of butt hurt they have caused you 
this tbqh.
Save the Miners! |

Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
140
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:01:00 -
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I remember the last time i risked losing my job over a guild / internet clan. Oh wait that is right... I never have and never would. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" Enter a Heroic Era Today |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
225
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:08:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:THE GOONS ARE FUKIN IN AND YOU ARE FUKIN OUT -BY KENNY POWERS WIS SHITCANNED SUPERCAPS NERFED TITANS NERFED HISEC INCURSION IS NEXT TREMBLE AND DESPAIR YOU MINDLESS RUNTS GRINDING FOR YOUR NEXT PLEX Beautiful. Sounds like a rap. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:17:00 -
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On the offchance this isn't a troll with all the blatant mis-spelling and overboard suggestions, you're saying that you'd rather have a group that doesn't generate conflict and content like the Goons do? Goons make for a more interesting Eve. It's a well-grounded opinion that should be fact. Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Rukia Taika
Allied Operations Jokers Wild.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:54:00 -
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Goons has made it claer and some day i will link that post of their awsome goal to destroy every MMO that is out there. thei name and leadership says it all and still cannot fight their way out of wet paper bag with a fleet of super caps |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
132
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:55:00 -
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WARNING OLD MEN WARNING YouTube.com/MandaloreGaming |

Tomiko Kawase
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 08:20:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:I wish the Clusterfuck wasn't the only group of players in the game that actually cares about balance. Rather than quietly sitting on whatever one shot win button they've discovered. The only folks complaining about the Titan nerf are those that are too selfish to see the good this will bring.
Its not like the Clusterfuck combined has one of the largest fleets of Super Capitals in the game, which are also going to get nerfed alongside everyone else.
TEST has no titans~ |
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