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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
67
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:55:00 -
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Rightly or wrongly that is a conclusion almost all in Eve can come to rightfully believe. I actually don't care 1 way or the other since I've never felt particularly threatened by goons & always saw thru their scams & laughed but with the Titan nerf announced the refrain:
" CCP should just make it so titans cant lock maelstroms and drakes and just get this over with. " seems justified
With the current CSM elections going the way they seem to be unless everyone starts voting against MITTENS in a unified fashion Ithink this perception that CCP has a hard on for goons is just going to grow INCREDIBLY!
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3412
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:58:00 -
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for those of you dont know
capital tracking of weapons are reduced by half
conversly no more tracking penaltywhen onlining your seige module.
also the number of targets a titan lock has been 'significnatly' reduced.
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TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries
43
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:58:00 -
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Love how everyone's all like "GOONS DON'T HAVE SUPERCAPS SO THIS IS BLATANTLY TO HELP THEM"
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11911041 - Yes, they DO have supercaps.
This is hardly "kowtowing" to them - this affects EVERYONE for the better. It gives smaller alliances a chance to get more space and get bigger, and it brings down the mega war-machine of the big alliances. |
Steve Celeste
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
214
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:59:00 -
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It makes perfect sense that the goon doctrine was perma-mwd drakes until they got what they wanted.
Just blow up that signature to the size of a carrier and welp them into a titan fleet every weekend, all to get CCP to nerf titans. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
439
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:03:00 -
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Steve Celeste wrote:It makes perfect sense that the goon doctrine was perma-mwd drakes until they got what they wanted.
Just blow up that signature to the size of a carrier and welp them into a titan fleet every weekend, all to get CCP to nerf titans.
 That's some bitter, bitter tears right there. WTB your titan, 2B b/o.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2515
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:06:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Love how everyone's all like "GOONS DON'T HAVE SUPERCAPS SO THIS IS BLATANTLY TO HELP THEM" http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11911041 - Yes, they DO have supercaps. This is hardly "kowtowing" to them - this affects EVERYONE for the better. It gives smaller alliances a chance to get more space and get bigger, and it brings down the mega war-machine of the big alliances.
thanks for showing everyone our only supercap, ugh
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
439
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:08:00 -
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When you hire a Goon director as lead game designer, this is what you get. I dont understand why people act all surprised. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
198
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:09:00 -
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As somebody who has been on the short end of a titan **** stick on more than one occasion, NO, this is CCP fixing something that is very broken.
Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á
Senior Recruiter |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:10:00 -
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If you all know Super Caps are going to be nerfed, start setting up your roam assets in Venal now. By the time they have the nerf in place you should be able to launch nightly subcap fleets in to Deklein, Pure Blind and Fade for 6 months or more. |
Steve Celeste
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
214
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:11:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Steve Celeste wrote:It makes perfect sense that the goon doctrine was perma-mwd drakes until they got what they wanted.
Just blow up that signature to the size of a carrier and welp them into a titan fleet every weekend, all to get CCP to nerf titans. That's some bitter, bitter tears right there. WTB your titan, 2B b/o.
Check the sales forum. I am buying, not selling.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5490
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:19:00 -
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If you are equating GǣbalanceGǥ and Gǣcommon senseGǥ to goons (and if you do, what the hell is wrong with you), then yes, they're kowtowing to goonsGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:42:00 -
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Yes, yes they are. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
116
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:If you are equating GǣbalanceGǥ and Gǣcommon senseGǥ to goons (and if you do, what the hell is wrong with you), then yes, they're kowtowing to goonsGǪ
This, exactly this.
(Waits for crying supercap pilots who are sad that their "I WIN" button is getting nerfed)
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
440
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:12:00 -
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I do find it interesting that Andski wrote this about the upcoming nerf allready on february 24th:
Andski wrote:I'm sorry that your titan is now only capable of catapulting fleets, giving massive HP and capacitor bonuses, applying 3 million damage to any capital sized target and dealing massive turret DPS against battleships, capitals and structures.
(source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=850135#post850135)
At this point the only information given by CCP was that tracking titans were looked into. And Andski has been vehemently opposed to Titans tracking anything smaller than a battleship. The tracking nerf is one thing, but it is the scanres nerf that is the real beauty of this nerf. It makes it impractical to lock smaller ships than battleships (and even battleships is streching it). Andski certainly seems to allready know this, 3 weeks ago. |
Valei Khurelem
437
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:16:00 -
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It doesn't matter how much you nerf or balance something with this type of game, in the end there will always be a ridiculously OP ship fitting or set of modules, it's just going to take a bit more time to find it again now. Then the goon lobbying session will begin yet again in the next elections.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
32
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:33:00 -
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Well, if their plan was to get a bunch of "Bitter Vets" to unsub, they will probably succeed with this one. 
Have already heard quite a few people in corp talking about dropping their Titan accounts, simply no point in logging them on now, kind of like Super Coffins.
If your going to make expensive ships useless, why not simply remove them from the game and reimburse the ABSURD skill points that people had to invest when the ships were actually useful.
Or, at least let them dock so that people can actually use the character for something else.
You have listened to the screaming mob, most of which probably have never seen a Titan, much less been killed by one and made them once again useless.
What is a bittervet to train for now? Assault frigs?
To many people, Supercaps were part of the Endgame of Eve, yet you continue to make them a liability to own, at least for anyone that can't field 100 of them.
Now I have to respec my planned Titan pilot to something else, but since dread tracking is no better than a Titan, and they have no way to defend themselves against anything smaller than a moon, I'm not sure why. On the other hand, at least they can dock....
So I must congratulate you CCP, from the looks of the forums, it looks like you've gotten the carebears upset as well.
Now, if you could do something to **** off the pirates, you'd be batting a thousand!
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1825
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:58:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:Well, if their plan was to get a bunch of "Bitter Vets" to unsub, they will probably succeed with this one. Have already heard quite a few people in corp talking about dropping their Titan accounts, simply no point in logging them on now, kind of like Super Coffins.
Anybody who actually quits over this will easily be replaced by somebody who quit the game in frustration when they realized Eve had turned into Supercaps Online.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Michael J Caboose
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:12:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Avid Bumhumper wrote:Well, if their plan was to get a bunch of "Bitter Vets" to unsub, they will probably succeed with this one. Have already heard quite a few people in corp talking about dropping their Titan accounts, simply no point in logging them on now, kind of like Super Coffins. Anybody who actually quits over this will easily be replaced by somebody who quit the game in frustration when they realized Eve had turned into Supercaps Online.
QFT, even though agreeing with a goon makes me feel nauseous and unclean... |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled
The.Alliance
441
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:12:00 -
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Look im all up for smacking a goon but this just sounds like under handed anti Mittans propaganda for CSM Votes
Try harder as all you do is drive me into the winsome arms of Mittans
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
116
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:20:00 -
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Michael J Caboose wrote:QFT, even though agreeing with a goon makes me feel nauseous and unclean...
There must be something in the water, 'cos a fair few goons are actually taking sense as of late.
I don't like it, make it stop.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:44:00 -
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I love how Titan owners and their hanger-ons are trying to paint this as the work of a few GOON DEVS.
As if a change like this didn't have a majority support among both new and longtime players and developers alike.
Remember kids, just say no to Titans Online. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
67
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:59:00 -
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NERFing of anything seems to be a bad thing IMHO is a tool of last resorts. I think this sort of complaint from those getting nerfed is justified:
"Well now that DEVs NERF BAT has gone and taken raiden's only defense GOONs should be able to steam roll them. CCP knows the titans were working just fine for when you were outnumbered. Now Raiden will loose all their space unless by some miracle goons stop fielding 800 man fleets. Well time to see how long before half of eve is blue once again. This is similar to the DRF but a little bit worse "
Those that trained for years to get a titan are putting them up for sale in droves. I suspect that ALOT of titan accounts will just unsub; they also may just quit because all the trainning they put into such ships are wasted & they won't get reimbursed for the time but I suspect they are so addicted to the game you are going to hear some incredible howls by bittervets. |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
117
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:08:00 -
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If you seriously quit over 1 class of ship being brought in line with the system of combat they designed for the game then you must not have enjoyed the game all the much anyway. 
Was there this much ragequit when they went from instagib doom cannons to deathstars because that felt like a bigger change than this.
I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
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Senorita putatita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:09:00 -
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It seems like it's turning into a pure numbers game and less about the skill points and time/ISK invested into superior ships. If a player is willing to invest the time=$ and ISK to field ships as expensive as SC's and Titans then why not give them an advantage equal to the risk they are taking Pew Pewing and maybe loosing these ships.
I already have carrier and Dread. Whats my endgame now? Was working towards Nyx then Erebus. Now where do I spend my money?  |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
117
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:14:00 -
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Senorita putatita wrote: It seems like it's turning into a pure numbers game and less about the skill points and time/ISK invested into superior ships. If a player is willing to invest the time=$ and ISK to field ships as expensive as SC's and Titans then why now give them an advantage equal to the risk they are taking Pew Pewing and maybe loosing these ships. I already have carrier and Dread. Whats my endgame now? Was working towards Nyx then Erebus. Now where do I spend my money?
Better POS? Invest in your corp's growth?
Should a Rohk beat a Dram 1v1 because it costs 3 times as much? Eve isn't about having the biggest shoulder pads with the most colorful name. You don't get guaranteed a victory because your lvl 85.
I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:15:00 -
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Get a Nyx and Erubus. The Nyx is still the same old baller ship it was and the Erubus is still the same capital **** wrecking god it was. All this means is you can't one shot fleets of subcaps anymore. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
247
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:19:00 -
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tears and tinfoil-hats all in one single package ... this thread delivers. |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions
Bloodbound.
414
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:22:00 -
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Senorita putatita wrote: an advantage equal to the risk they are taking Pew Pewing and maybe loosing these ships.
If you look at the stats it's awfully hard to lose a titan. Many many more are produced monthly than are lost. Therefore the risk of loss is small, and thus the advantage should be relatively small.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
68
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:23:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:tears and tinfoil-hats all in one single package ... this thread delivers.
You are welcome now gimme a like & 1 million ISKies so I can afford the faction tin foil hats soon to be released by NEX |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2635
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:23:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:I do find it interesting that Andski wrote this about the upcoming nerf allready on february 24th: Andski wrote:I'm sorry that your titan is now only capable of catapulting fleets, giving massive HP and capacitor bonuses, applying 3 million damage to any capital sized target and dealing massive turret DPS against battleships, capitals and structures. (source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=850135#post850135) At this point the only information given by CCP was that tracking titans were looked into. And Andski has been vehemently opposed to Titans tracking anything smaller than a battleship. The tracking nerf is one thing, but it is the scanres nerf that is the real beauty of this nerf. It makes it impractical to lock smaller ships than battleships (and even battleships is streching it). Andski certainly seems to allready know this, 3 weeks ago.
I planned the whole thing at a barbecue, no troll
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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