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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:03:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:This is the important point: Nobody (except people who enjoy exploiting overpowered stuff in mmos) wants to see an Eve where holding sov requires having hundreds of titans for every single engagement.
I guess the counter point is: NOBODY WANTS TO SEE GATE CAMPING BLOBS overpowering NULL SEC which the titans can counter? |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3179
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:08:00 -
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ahahahah you think people camp gates with drakes
stick to incursions m8 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:09:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:This is the important point: Nobody (except people who enjoy exploiting overpowered stuff in mmos) wants to see an Eve where holding sov requires having hundreds of titans for every single engagement. I guess the counter point is: NOBODY WANTS TO SEE GATE CAMPING BLOBS of drakes overpowering NULL SEC which the titans can counter?
Whoa, let's see if we can get CCP to nerf caps lock next.
Now, how does Titan tracking counter gate camping blobs?
Edit: Oh god I missed where he said drakes. Hahahahaa get out. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3179
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:15:00 -
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fyi your risk-free isk fountain with concord protection has done far more damage to nullsec than titan tracking or drake blobs
since you apparently care so much about nullsec, i think we can both agree that hisec incursions should be removed from the game "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:20:00 -
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I have heard, however, that Titans have been very effective in countering ratting drakes in null. Maybe that's what he meant. |
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club Narwhals Ate My Duck
22
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:32:00 -
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Super Capital ships were poorly thought out in the first place. Created from complaints about regular Capital Ships.
Now people are complaining about Super Capital Ships. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3179
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:46:00 -
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Pink Marshmellow wrote:Super Capital ships were poorly thought out in the first place. Created from complaints about regular Capital Ships.
Now people are complaining about Super Capital Ships.
hakarl is a very powerful thing "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Shade Millith
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:14:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Rightly or wrongly that is a conclusion almost all in Eve can come to rightfully believe. I actually don't care 1 way or the other since I've never felt particularly threatened by goons & always saw thru their scams & laughed but with the Titan nerf announced the refrain: " CCP should just make it so titans cant lock maelstroms and drakes and just get this over with. " seems justified With the current CSM elections going the way they seem to be unless everyone starts voting against MITTENS in a unified fashion Ithink this perception that CCP has a hard on for goons is just going to grow INCREDIBLY!
Not a Goon, but I honestly believe that Titans shouldn't be able to hit anything smaller than a carrier.
EVE Online is already getting the nickname of Supercaps Online. Any changes to stop this is a good thing.
And Drakes (As they are right now) have counters. Gallente HAC's, or throw an extra Kin hardener onto your BS.
How much longer these counters will work, I don't know. CCP seems pretty intent of buffing Drake Armies. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
78
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Posted - 2012.03.17 06:53:00 -
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Andski wrote:ahahahah you think people camp gates with drakes
stick to incursions m8
Got me there I am mostly an incursion runner looking to NULL SEC next... I believe I do want to start exporing SOV space soon but am a bit concerned about the shape o things. Doubt I'd be able to fly Titans anytime in the next year. With way things are heading maybe I should consider W-Space first or not or just play in lo sec I'm on the tight rope... |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3181
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:44:00 -
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You're whining about nerfs to a ship that you'll never own and considering moving to wormholes, the land of no supercaps? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
79
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:You're whining about nerfs to a ship that you'll never own and considering moving to wormholes, the land of no supercaps?
NERFing is lazy. There are better ways to buff other game elements. I Once did consider going for a Titan but after hearing about the years it'd take to train & the continual nerfs nope I'm not considering it anymore... rate the nerfing crap is going by the time I trained for a Titan it'd be nerfed down to a rookie ship |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:04:00 -
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Titans are being build 5-10 times faster than they are being destroyed.
This means on a long enough timeline there will be fleets of hundreds of titans.
Remove Supercaps from the game, tia. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1931
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:08:00 -
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Voith wrote:Remove Supercaps from the game, tia.
This is our long-term goal.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Sekket
White-Noise
10
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:28:00 -
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I'm against this change mostly because I feel the tracking formula is already whacky enough as it is. Right now a T1 cruiser can orbit a battleship in a predictable pattern and the battleship has no chance of hitting the cruiser, yet people are OK with that apparently. Tracking mechanics has its place but it should not provide immunity to damage. In addition to tracking mechanics turrets also deal with signature radius. Shouldn't both these mechanics be looked at to see if things are working as expected? - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3202
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:33:00 -
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"turret mechanics are dumb, don't nerf titan tracking" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Bloutok
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
3
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:35:00 -
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Skip the beginning :)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82699&find=unread |
OfBalance
Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:43:00 -
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It's the topic that keeps on cross-posting. |
Sekket
White-Noise
10
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:"turret mechanics are dumb, don't nerf titan tracking"
More like "Re-evaluate the turret formulas. The titan nerf is like a band-aid on a bullet wound"
This guy explains it well. - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5657
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:09:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:NERFing is lazy. There are better ways to buff other game elements. RightGǪ Except that the best way of buffing other game elements is nerfing the one thing that is out of order. Nerfs are far better and far more precise balancing tools than buffs are GÇö buffing everything else just means you've created a whole slew of new balance issues and caused power creep as icing on the cake. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
286
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Posted - 2012.03.18 11:22:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:Well, if their plan was to get a bunch of "Bitter Vets" to unsub, they will probably succeed with this one. Have already heard quite a few people in corp talking about dropping their Titan accounts, simply no point in logging them on now, kind of like Super Coffins. If your going to make expensive ships useless, why not simply remove them from the game and reimburse the ABSURD skill points that people had to invest when the ships were actually useful. Or, at least let them dock so that people can actually use the character for something else. You have listened to the screaming mob, most of which probably have never seen a Titan, much less been killed by one and made them once again useless. What is a bittervet to train for now? Assault frigs? To many people, Supercaps were part of the Endgame of Eve, yet you continue to make them a liability to own, at least for anyone that can't field 100 of them. Now I have to respec my planned Titan pilot to something else, but since dread tracking is no better than a Titan, and they have no way to defend themselves against anything smaller than a moon, I'm not sure why. On the other hand, at least they can dock.... So I must congratulate you CCP, from the looks of the forums, it looks like you've gotten the carebears upset as well. Now, if you could do something to **** off the pirates, you'd be batting a thousand!
I can haz ur stuffs?
In irae, veritas. |
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Sernum
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
9
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Posted - 2012.03.18 13:46:00 -
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I think if you put something about rookie ships in the title of this thread you might be able to trick a dev or gm into reading it. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2012.03.18 14:31:00 -
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Sernum wrote:I think if you put something about rookie ships in the title of this thread you might be able to trick a dev or gm into reading it.
Nobody would care either because Titans/supers or rookie ships are all flown by titan pilots and alts, so they don't count
In the end are you going to threat leaving too or start playing the game without your pownmobile? If you leave think about the poor player that I am and send me isk plz, not titan cause I'd reprocess that crap to build drakes/canes.
Also accepting BPO donations, T II's better of course. thx |
Signal11th
440
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:Signal11th wrote:Andski wrote:Cearain wrote:I thought you were fine with the change because your real strength is your sheer number of players. Without powerful ships these other alliance will not be able to stand in the way of your herds.
But it is sort of funny to read about how you goons seem so concerned about bc gangs getting ganked. I guess you guys do care after all. i'm sorry but no sane person can suggest that 20 players should defeat hundreds unopposed 20 guys deciding coalition level engagements is simply ******** and you know it there is significant logistical and administrative work involved in getting that "sheer number of players" into fleets regularly and getting them back into the fight when they lose ships Why not? happens in Modern warfare every day? I'm sure in the future it would be the same as well. I think what you saying is you don't like the fact that having hundreds upon hundreds of players in your alliance makes no difference? ah yes i forgot that titans are dropped in real life warfare and decimate everything carry on
How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:50:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future.
Yeah Eve ships are just like RL technology for the following reasons
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
DarthNefarius
101
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:02:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Andski wrote: ah yes i forgot that titans are dropped in real life warfare and decimate everything
carry on
How you have managed 3000 odd likes writing such nonsense is beyond me, What is a carrier? What is a F22 fighter jet or even a daisy cutter bomb compared to people who don't have that technology? Try engaging your brain before you open your mouth/type on a keyboard in future.
GoonWaffe trolls feed each other thats how he got so many likes. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2158
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:26:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
Says the guy who never leaves highsec but is an expert on titans.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
DarthNefarius
102
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Posted - 2012.03.26 00:52:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
Says the guy who never leaves highsec but is an expert on titans.
lol I've never left hi sec http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15162870
been awhile since anything of mine has died there... at least the x rated holo reel survived just not the livestock which was on it To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2175
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Posted - 2012.03.26 05:49:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:been awhile since anything of mine has died there
That's the interesting thing about lowsec and nullsec...you actually have to go there to lose ships there. Mind-bending I know
But tell us more about your expertise concerning the Titan class vessel.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
DarthNefarius
102
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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:21:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:been awhile since anything of mine has died there That's the interesting thing about lowsec and nullsec...you actually have to go there to lose ships there. Mind-bending I know
Same thing about hi sec too huh?
Been there done that
Back to titans... after I play for 3-4 years & can fly one & it gets nerfed to Hell? sorry CCP sucks for giving peeps the ship then taking awaywhat it can do. ULTIMATE INDIAN GIVERS IMHO To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2177
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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:36:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Same thing about hi sec too huh?
Been there done that
Yes, I know. That's why I'm encouraging you to leave high sec and experience the rest of the game before you try to speak with such authority about titans.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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