Another Goon trying to make it out like they don't have a titan/supercap blob. I lol so hard

I don't ever remember anyone complaing about Raiden doing that. PL did, quite often but in 6 months it will be Raiden who see your Blobs, not PL won't it?

You are assuming he didn't spend agreat deal in PLEXs to finance this Titan (which I hear many titan pilots have) which translates into RL money indirectly. If I spent RL plex & a year + of trainning I'd be howling too. NERF BAT is a horrible tool and never should be used IMHO a better solution would be buffing something or some other counter. All these NERFs reminds me of the eye for an eye arguement (look at my toon not only am I blind my tin foil hat has a receding line ):

That's 2 years of training down the ******* drain. Oh did I mention the 100billion isk we spent on mods, and the hull?

RaidenDOT and NCDOT are just as guilty as PL. Go look at who is really howling about this change (hint: it's those three aliances).

I don't tend to feel bad for an Alliance, any alliance in EVE. I try and see it from the individual Pilots perspective. I still haven't been assimilated in to the whole communist, hegemony mindset of EVE.

I actually don't care 1 way or the other...

Those alliances don't treat their titan pilots as individuals so why should you? Besides, it's not like the individual pilots didn't know they were exploiting a broken game mechanic...don't feel bad for them.

When have we ever denied having our own supercap fleet? We have one of the biggest fleets in the game and we are fine with the nerfs because we see how overpowered they are.

If you want to be mad at somebody blame all the horrible alliances that have been exploiting titans for the last couple years by blowing up frigates with them and bragging about how ~elite~ they are.

When have we ever denied having our own supercap fleet? We have one of the biggest fleets in the game and we are fine with the nerfs because we see how overpowered they are.

If you want to be mad at somebody blame all the horrible alliances that have been exploiting titans for the last couple years by blowing up frigates with them and bragging about how ~elite~ they are.

Are you actually stating that the people who spend the most RL money should always win?

Well then you shouldn't have gone out of your way to constantly hotdrop frigate/BC gangs with titan blobs and then gloat about it. Your continued actions were bound to cause this sort of reprisal, yet you were too arrogant to see the train coming down the tracks. You simply could have limited your hotdrops and actually used titans to bolster subcap fleets, increase force projection, etc. It's your own fault that Titans had to be nerfed and now other pilots who used their titans for the good of their alliance have to deal with the consequences.

Still needs to be a cap ship that destroys sub caps or it will just be about numbers.

Bingo! Exploit things enough and eventually it gets noticed.



No you don't. And the #'s argument fails now that Tidi is in place.

I thought you were fine with the change because your real strength is your sheer number of players. Without powerful ships these other alliance will not be able to stand in the way of your herds.

But it is sort of funny to read about how you goons seem so concerned about bc gangs getting ganked. I guess you guys do care after all.

i'm sorry but no sane person can suggest that 20 players should defeat hundreds unopposed

20 guys deciding coalition level engagements is simply ******** and you know it

there is significant logistical and administrative work involved in getting that "sheer number of players" into fleets regularly and getting them back into the fight when they lose ships

Why not? happens in Modern warfare every day? I'm sure in the future it would be the same as well. I think what you saying is you don't like the fact that having hundreds upon hundreds of players in your alliance makes no difference?

Still needs to be a cap ship that destroys sub caps or it will just be about numbers.

Even Titan owners were expecting a tracking nerf. The scan res nerf is a bit too much IMO. I mean 15 or 20 but 5?? That's a bit extreme...

Quality over quantity should be your motto.

Why not? happens in Modern warfare every day? I'm sure in the future it would be the same as well. I think what you saying is you don't like the fact that having hundreds upon hundreds of players in your alliance makes no difference?
If anything they should make them easier to kill nothing else.

You mean the war in which we took out the nation that had 1950 era tanks and one aircraft that didn't work or the other two with decayed 1970s military?

Still needs to be a cap ship that destroys sub caps or it will just be about numbers.

All CCP will do will make it as usual quantity over quality, so if you want to hold the SOV you have just managed to get you have to Blue up/Suck off the local "large" alliance because they have taken away/made it pointless the only thing that makes it awkward for a large fleet to engage.

It. Will. Always. Be. About. Numbers.

2 > 1

It's one of those fundamental things about the universe that can't be legislated, coded, whined about or persuaded to change.

Still needs to be a cap ship that destroys sub caps or it will just be about numbers.

Rightly or wrongly that is a conclusion almost all in Eve can come to rightfully believe. I actually don't care 1 way or the other since I've never felt particularly threatened by goons & always saw thru their scams & laughed but with the Titan nerf announced the refrain:
" CCP should just make it so titans cant lock maelstroms and drakes and just get this over with. " seems justified
With the current CSM elections going the way they seem to be unless everyone starts voting against MITTENS in a unified fashion Ithink this perception that CCP has a hard on for goons is just going to grow INCREDIBLY!

Close, but not quite.

There needs to be a cap ship that destroys subcaps or caps will have no real use. Numbers is not really a factor GÇö it's just that not allowing for that kind of relationship breaks the paper-scissors-rock cycle. Of course, for the whole thing to work, there also has to be a capship that is supremely weak to subcaps, and this is why the cycle has failed so far.

Since there already are capships that destroy subcaps, what they're trying to do now is that last bit that ties the whole thing together: a capship that dies horribly when faced with subcaps.

ah yes i forgot that titans are dropped in real life warfare and decimate everything

carry on