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Orlando Orleans
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Orlando Orleans on 18/05/2004 07:00:08
Edited by: Orlando Orleans on 17/05/2004 19:30:40
Here¦s a little bedtime story for all you guys and gals out there.
A few of us were lounging near a stargate at an undisclosed location waiting for some customers when a Raven battleship jumps into our midst. After we had politely stopped the ship, negotiations began for his continued journey in the ship.
Unwilling to part with his precious, hard-earned ISK, the Raven pilot proceeded to give us the finger by initiating self-destuct on his ship, confident that his insurance company would of course pay him at least basic insurance on his Raven.
We started pounding his ship immediately so any modules on the ship would not go to waste due to the irresponsible pilots actions. Evidently fearing for his life, the pilot immediately ejected from the doomed Raven and warped away.
We stopped shooting immediately and one of out numbers boarded his ship to try and save this piece of Caldari engineering exellence.
Alas, it was not meant to be for shortly after our pilot had boarded the ship the self-destruct cycle completed and the ship was lost.
Guilt-ridden by his failure to save the vessel our pilot boarded his ship again only to notice his mail and wallet icons blinking on the dashboard.
Apparently the insurance company had decided to pay him the sum of 43.5 million isk for his valiant efforts to try and save the ship.
The Irresponsible Raven pilot got nothing.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:28:00 -
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lol 
I thought you didn¦t get insurance when you selfdestruct.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:33:00 -
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you do, however if you only have a basic insurance then u are screwed - it pays out to the most recent owner, and is not name-oriented.
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Magnet41
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Posted - 2004.05.17 20:13:00 -
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lol , thats a good one, will teach the guy not to run next time
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MadGaz > I just pwned an old lady
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viki
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Posted - 2004.05.17 20:25:00 -
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lol
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.05.17 20:32:00 -
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... lol
so funny...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:23:00 -
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MiloMorai
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:28:00 -
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OH OW my sides!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA what a NOOB! I'm not a pirate or toll gater but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
I collect ships. Can I have yours? |
YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:26:00 -
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Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
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PainBall
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:36:00 -
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Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
nope, after he ejects from the ship , the ship is no longer he's , therefor the insurance payout goes to whomever is in the ship when it selfdestructs m8 
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Tyr Guann
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:41:00 -
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I must know, who was this pilot? The temptation to message him is just too great!
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:43:00 -
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LMAO.... some people! why should he petition? he would get nothing back, he ejected from his ship, he gave it up, god knows why, but hey, he must have learned his lesson =)
.... will never forget havin 5 zombie bs's jump on my scorp in bosena ;) quite a sight for sure! hehe, thank god for insurance!
..time for another beer.
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ZURAN 666
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:51:00 -
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People like him that do not read are why there are soo many people out there ripping others off. When you sign up for insurance there is a non disclosure about the ship remaining insured even if you don't have possession. ROFLMAO What a moron. As long as there are people like that people like me will always be prosperous
Kein Mehrheit F³r Die Mitleid |
Xendoh
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:02:00 -
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rofl
thats priceless hahahaha
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:20:00 -
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Still, sucks to lose the Raven. The timer should stop when someone else boards the ship.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:28:00 -
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HAHA!
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: PainBall
Quote:
Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
nope, after he ejects from the ship , the ship is no longer he's , therefor the insurance payout goes to whomever is in the ship when it selfdestructs m8
Technically yes, and by letter of the law yes, but in prinicipal that's just not fair at all.
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Orlando Orleans
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Orlando Orleans on 18/05/2004 00:16:50
Originally by: YuuKnow
Originally by: PainBall
Quote:
Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
nope, after he ejects from the ship , the ship is no longer he's , therefor the insurance payout goes to whomever is in the ship when it selfdestructs m8
Technically yes, and by letter of the law yes, but in prinicipal that's just not fair at all.
Look, If the guy wants insurance for his ship, he should NOT self-destruct it and NOT eject from it.
Logic dictates that either of those actions would void any insurance contracts.
He did both...
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0110010110010
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:21:00 -
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Your friendly insurance company has transferred 43500000 ISK into your account hahaha
Thx a bunch Mr.Raven pilot
Ìar Sem 2 Skip Koma Saman Ìar Er BloBBa !!! |
Leitari
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:23:00 -
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OK I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST THE MANDATORY BASIC INSURANCE BUT NOW.... HA HA @ NUBLARS. GO BASIC INSURANCE.
Seriously, this needs to be looked at. Doubt that this is what the devs had in mind. LoL
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.05.18 01:31:00 -
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HAHAHHAHA
That is one fantastic story lol 
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P3gasus
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Posted - 2004.05.18 03:50:00 -
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Edited by: P3gasus on 18/05/2004 03:51:42
Originally by: PainBall
Quote:
Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
nope, after he ejects from the ship , the ship is no longer he's , therefor the insurance payout goes to whomever is in the ship when it selfdestructs m8
practice spelling  not that mine is any better
Originally by: PainBall
the ship is no longer he's
the ship is no longer he is 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.18 06:27:00 -
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Name and shame, baby, name and shame!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
LeMoose
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Posted - 2004.05.18 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: 0110010110010
Your friendly insurance company has transferred 43500000 ISK into your account hahaha
Thx a bunch Mr.Raven pilot
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.05.18 07:47:00 -
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Brilliant!!!!!!!!
LMFAO
On a serious note I dont get why people self destruct. Might as well go down in flames and try and take someone with you.
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2004.05.18 10:31:00 -
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This story cheered me up :)
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"I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender |
T Bone
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:09:00 -
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That's a cool story!
To bad The Raven was not saved but still, Sweeeeeeeeet!!
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:11:00 -
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OK, I can see why the Raven pilot should not get his insurance, but I don't see why the guy who boarded it SHOULD. He has no contract with the insurance company, and if I know insurers, they look for ANY excuse not to pay out.
Insurance should be voided by self destruct, but no way should someone who boards a ship suddenly become eligible for the insurance payout under a contract paid for by someone else.
It's a bug in my opinion, and should be reported as such.
(It's not an exploit unless you try to do it again :))
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:25:00 -
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Wow....that's pretty funny.
Does seem like a bug tho.
Pilot 1 initiates self destruct, voiding the insurance, and ejecting.
Pilot 2 boards the ship, in effect making him the new owner, who has NOT voided the insurance, since he did not trigger the self destruct sequence.
Ship self-destructs anyway, and basic insurance pays out to new owner....
weird...
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:50:00 -
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Part of the problem is that it is obviously not INITIATING self destruct that voids the insurance, but the ship actually blowing up (which is as it should be since you may be lucky and cancel the SD order).
It's the fact that the ship seems to be insured to pay out to "current owner" rather than "owner who bought the insurance" that is the problem, coupled with the fact that something about the ship being boarded makes it forget that it blew up from a self destruct command and so shouldn't be paying out anyway!
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cypriss
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Posted - 2004.05.18 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: P3gasus
Edited by: P3gasus on 18/05/2004 03:51:42
Originally by: PainBall
Quote:
Haha, that's funny.
But he should really petition to get that insurance to money.
nope, after he ejects from the ship , the ship is no longer he's , therefor the insurance payout goes to whomever is in the ship when it selfdestructs m8
practice spelling not that mine is any better
Originally by: PainBall
the ship is no longer he's
the ship is no longer he is
FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE. give up the spelling and grammar posts please, we signed up to play a game not for english lessons.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.05.18 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
OK, I can see why the Raven pilot should not get his insurance, but I don't see why the guy who boarded it SHOULD. He has no contract with the insurance company, and if I know insurers, they look for ANY excuse not to pay out.
Insurance should be voided by self destruct, but no way should someone who boards a ship suddenly become eligible for the insurance payout under a contract paid for by someone else.
It's a bug in my opinion, and should be reported as such.
(It's not an exploit unless you try to do it again :))
Its not a bug, this is exactly what the devs put up. We complained about it (pirate community) and suggested that insurance should not be payed to those that self destructed. They ignored us and kept this in. We have now benifited from this so we dont care anymore. He probably wasnt aware that self destruction is delayed by 120 seconds so it gave us ample time to kill him. However in some desperate act of lunacy he decided to eject from the ship. Probably to try and get the last laugh.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.18 21:15:00 -
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Raven 
I never even got asked to pay a toll tonight 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Triniton
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Posted - 2004.05.18 21:55:00 -
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I¦m afraid you were a victim of war not killed at our regular "ransom/kill gate gank", altho u got ganked 
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |
Blooded Heromy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 23:38:00 -
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Did he drop any COOKIES trin ? plz tell me he had some with chokolate :)
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Nova Ivanova
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:46:00 -
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.19 01:20:00 -
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Forgive my n00bishness (as I have not done a self-destruct in months), but the game announces to others in the vicinity when a self-destruct is initiated?
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CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.19 01:20:00 -
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Thats just got Style
nice one i say
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.19 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
Forgive my n00bishness (as I have not done a self-destruct in months), but the game announces to others in the vicinity when a self-destruct is initiated?
ofcorse it does - thats why they startted shooting him
how on earth u will know when to start to shoot othervice?
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.19 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy
Originally by: MooKids
Forgive my n00bishness (as I have not done a self-destruct in months), but the game announces to others in the vicinity when a self-destruct is initiated?
ofcorse it does - thats why they startted shooting him
how on earth u will know when to start to shoot othervice?
I'm still in the old mindset that when you hit self-destruct on your ship, it blew up right away, no 120 second timer. As I said, I haven't had the need to do a self-destruct in months.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.19 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Blooded Heromy
Did he drop any COOKIES trin ? plz tell me he had some with chokolate :)
I last long enough to eat all the cookies!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.05.19 09:33:00 -
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Acording to the contract that you sign when you take out insurance, the ship should only pay out insurance if it is being flown by the pilot that payed for the insurance.
I guess as you dont sign up for basic insurance, it does the same thing.
I guess an easy fix for this is if Basic insurance cost 1000k (administration fee). Then it will follow the same rules when it quickly changes owners like in the above sinario.
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InigoMontoya
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Posted - 2004.05.19 16:06:00 -
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Very funny, but the guy must be gutted. Out of interest, what was your 'ransom' for safe passage?
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Orlando Orleans
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Posted - 2004.05.19 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: InigoMontoya
Very funny, but the guy must be gutted. Out of interest, what was your 'ransom' for safe passage?
Less than what the insurance got us
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.05.19 18:09:00 -
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What you SHOULD have done was have your guy board the ship and then blow it up anyway.
This way your pilot would have gotten the insurance AND you could have gotten any mods/cargo that it dropped :)
Only thing you would have had to be careful of was using missles so as not to pod your pilot.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Triniton
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Posted - 2004.05.19 18:16:00 -
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What we tryd to do by boarding the ship was getting the free ship+modules, worth alot more :P
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |
Baun
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Posted - 2004.05.19 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 19/05/2004 19:00:21
Yes I know that the ship intact is far more valuable, but I am pretty sure there is no way to abort the self-destruct. If this is the case then you could have at least gotten some of the modules as well :)
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Blooded Heromy
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Posted - 2004.05.20 01:53:00 -
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Did he drop any COOKIES trin ? plz tell me he had some with chokolate :)
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I last long enough to eat all the cookies!
OMG you monster :( and Trin, you bastard could you not get him before he did eat them all 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:09:00 -
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If you activate the self-destruct, then "activate" it again, it cancels.
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.05.20 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 20/05/2004 22:23:40
Originally by: Dianabolic
If you activate the self-destruct, then "activate" it again, it cancels.
Then why didnt they do that :p. Were they THAT short on time?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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0110010110010
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Posted - 2004.05.20 23:18:00 -
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quote]Then why didnt they do that :p. Were they THAT short on time?
Yes we where really the moment i borded the Ship it went BOOM 
Ìar Sem 2 Skip Koma Saman Ìar Er BloBBa !!! |
Baun
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Posted - 2004.05.21 00:04:00 -
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aww :/
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