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KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:18:00 - [31] ALL Tier 2 battle ships (Especcially with the coming "balancing") can fit 8 Battleship Weapons. Apoc Tempest and Mega can all fit 6 Primary Turrets and 2 Seige, with very little sacrafice, I can squeeze on to my Raven 6 Seige and 2 425s just at the moment, with no cpu spare for mwd etc. After the balancing, Apoc Mega and Temp will be able to fit 6 (8 or 7 if in apoc/mega respectively) of the Race Choice weps, whilst the Raven is going to struggle to fit 6 Seige and 2 Large BS weps (425 Tach or 1400) I would rather CCP left it as it is, and just fixed missiles. After this patch, if the changes stay as they are, Raven pilots, will be trounced in any pvp (except maybe very large Fleet Battles) encounter they find themselves in. As for those saying "the Raven pilots have had it easy for so long, look at them whine now", you do not know what your talking about, go back to noob land and stfu. Ilove my raven, but I will jump ship to an Apoc if this patch stays as it is. I hope CCP liosten, and address this issue, the pg nerf on Siege is ridiculous. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Synapse	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:30:00 - [32] Raven should be able to fit 6 siege + 2 medium/small guns + modules easily IMHO. Then if you want to fit 2 large guns and stil tank shields ect. fit a few rcu's. - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - In a future where freedom is outlawed, outlaws will become heros
Amy Foxx	Posted - 2004.05.20 14:32:00 - [33] Did I mind the low CPU on my Raven (Nevermore)? no not really I got around it. Do I like what is happing to Nevermore's CPU after this change? hell yes! it'll free up three low slots for me. Did I struggle to fit 6 seige launchers, 2 425mm rails, large sheild boost, sheild amp, and three sheild harderns on her, with her current 600 base CPU and 10k base PG? YES and I made it all work. Am I going to take Nevermore out of the cage after this Raven 'adjustments' nope, she is going to sit in her cage, well I get my skills in place for a Megathorn or Apoc.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.05.20 15:07:00 - [34] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 20/05/2004 15:08:33 Quote: Apoc Tempest and Mega can all fit 6 Primary Turrets and 2 Seige, with very little sacrafice lvl5 Engineering and Electronics on Apoc 24375 PG and 625 CPU 6 x Tachyons = 22500 PG and 360 CPU 2 x Siege Launchers = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 26000 PG and 520 of course we want some defence to... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 26510 PG and 748 CPU You would at least need 1 reactor control or 2 power diags + 3 co-processors... not much sacrifice huh? that is of course IF MY calculations are correct, which i doubt! "We brake for nobody"
JoCool	Posted - 2004.05.20 15:23:00 - [35] You do not need any powergrid enhancing modules - and you'll still be able to fit 2 Tachs, 4 Megas plus 2 siege launchers, at least. By the way, Megabeams are the Apoc's primary weapon, not Tachyons.
Man'corr	Posted - 2004.05.20 15:30:00 - [36] though it might be worth mentioning, that an apoc gets NO Damage bonus as opposed to the raven........................ only on a side note though....... All of above post was formulated wth 100% honesty and 100% sarcasm. Now i only need to get drunk The 3rd turret is the Malediction is missing. Plz make as much noise as possible so that CCP gets us a remedy for that, possibly before X-Mas this year.
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.05.20 15:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Amy Foxx Did I mind the low CPU on my Raven (Nevermore)? no not really I got around it. Do I like what is happing to Nevermore's CPU after this change? hell yes! it'll free up three low slots for me. Did I struggle to fit 6 seige launchers, 2 425mm rails, large sheild boost, sheild amp, and three sheild harderns on her, with her current 600 base CPU and 10k base PG? YES and I made it all work. Am I going to take Nevermore out of the cage after this Raven 'adjustments' nope, she is going to sit in her cage, well I get my skills in place for a Megathorn or Apoc. Hit nail on head. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Shevaun Ashnirelim	Posted - 2004.05.20 16:01:00 - [38] It's pretty obvious which race is the favorite. Caldari get nerf after nerf while the Gallente fly around with 7 turrets, an innate damage mod, 10 heavy drones and great EVERYTHING.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.05.20 16:50:00 - [39] the Megathron will not be uber! 18750 PG and 687 CPU 6 x 425mm Rails = 16500 PG and 450 CPU 2 x Siege = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 20000 PG and 610 CPU and as always we want some good defence... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 1 x Warp Distruptor = 10 PG and 40 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 20520 PG and 878 CPU you would need a reactor control unit and some co-processors... but then again, my calculations are probably wrong! "We brake for nobody"
Baun	Posted - 2004.05.20 17:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 20/05/2004 15:08:33 Quote: Apoc Tempest and Mega can all fit 6 Primary Turrets and 2 Seige, with very little sacrafice lvl5 Engineering and Electronics on Apoc 24375 PG and 625 CPU 6 x Tachyons = 22500 PG and 360 CPU 2 x Siege Launchers = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 26000 PG and 520 of course we want some defence to... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 26510 PG and 748 CPU You would at least need 1 reactor control or 2 power diags + 3 co-processors... not much sacrifice huh? that is of course IF MY calculations are correct, which i doubt! Try using 425s and all of the fitting problems suddenly go away. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun	Posted - 2004.05.20 17:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock the Megathron will not be uber! 18750 PG and 687 CPU 6 x 425mm Rails = 16500 PG and 450 CPU 2 x Siege = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 20000 PG and 610 CPU and as always we want some good defence... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 1 x Warp Distruptor = 10 PG and 40 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 20520 PG and 878 CPU you would need a reactor control unit and some co-processors... but then again, my calculations are probably wrong! Change the mid slots to an MWD, Scram, Web, Cap Injector High slots to Ion Blasters. Low slots to armor tanking config. You will do more damage and have a better defense than the setup you posted. The Megathron indeed will be unable to Shield Tank due to the CPU usage of hybrids, but Megathrons are already incredibly crappy shield tanks in PVP. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.05.20 17:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 20/05/2004 15:08:33 Quote: Apoc Tempest and Mega can all fit 6 Primary Turrets and 2 Seige, with very little sacrafice lvl5 Engineering and Electronics on Apoc 24375 PG and 625 CPU 6 x Tachyons = 22500 PG and 360 CPU 2 x Siege Launchers = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 26000 PG and 520 of course we want some defence to... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 26510 PG and 748 CPU You would at least need 1 reactor control or 2 power diags + 3 co-processors... not much sacrifice huh? that is of course IF MY calculations are correct, which i doubt! Try using 425s and all of the fitting problems suddenly go away. not really, the 425mm's need more CPU... go figure "We brake for nobody"
Bared Bel'Medar	Posted - 2004.05.20 19:09:00 - [43] ok, I dont see the problem, sorry, but I dont. I am a PROUD caldari with level 5 Electronics, Engineering and Weapon Upgrades... I also fly cruisers and frigates, where weapon upgrades if even more prevalent. with a maximised shield tank (i.e. no non shield booster or amp stuff, like sensor jammers or boosters or a mwd)... Some people might call that newbish, I call that staying power. In shiva I think its going to be necessary to fit anti frig/cruiser guns, and the setup I have devised reflects that belief. also, look at the dual 250, really a great gun imho. I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer...
Baun	Posted - 2004.05.20 22:15:00 - [44] Edited by: Baun on 20/05/2004 22:17:48 Quote: Quote: Originally by: Baun -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Admiral IceBlock -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 20/05/2004 15:08:33 Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apoc Tempest and Mega can all fit 6 Primary Turrets and 2 Seige, with very little sacrafice -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lvl5 Engineering and Electronics on Apoc 24375 PG and 625 CPU 6 x Tachyons = 22500 PG and 360 CPU 2 x Siege Launchers = 3500 PG and 160 CPU Sum = 26000 PG and 520 of course we want some defence to... 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 100 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 26510 PG and 748 CPU You would at least need 1 reactor control or 2 power diags + 3 co-processors... not much sacrifice huh? that is of course IF MY calculations are correct, which i doubt! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try using 425s and all of the fitting problems suddenly go away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not really, the 425mm's need more CPU... go figure Wrong. Apparently you missed the fact that an Apoc can easily fit 8 425s a shield tanks setup and 7 CPRs and the only namaed module has to be an X-L clairty ward. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Plasmatique	Posted - 2004.05.20 23:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Shimatu which means that all those raven pilots who spent weeks sqeazing every last drop of CPU from theyre skills and modules have wasted theyre time... glad i'm not a raven pilot Oh...you mean like training weapons upgrades to level 5? Yep, guilty. Oh well, at least its not ship specific. On chaos its very hard to fit 6 siege and any large guns atm to raven ..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2004.05.21 11:43:00 - [46] 2x Heavy NOS = dead frigate :) Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Edited by: Bared Bel'Medar on 19/05/2004 18:53:03 I dont see the problem... really I dont. A good Raven set up will REQUIRE a pair of anti frig guns once shiva comes... the dual 180mm autocannon works wonders against cruisers and frigs, so I highly recommend them. EDIT And I do use caldari ships and I do use Weapon Upgrades alot, in fact, its the skill I consider the most important. ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.05.21 12:56:00 - [47] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 21/05/2004 12:57:10 Quote: Wrong. Apparently you missed the fact that an Apoc can easily fit 8 425s a shield tanks setup and 7 CPRs and the only namaed module has to be an X-L clairty ward 8 x 425mm = 22000 PG and 600 CPU 1 x XL Booster = 500 PG and 100 CPU 2 x Hardners = 10 PG and 80 CPU 1 x Shield Amp = 2 PG and 50 CPU 7 x Cap Relays = 28 CPU Total Sum = 22512 PG and 858 CPU "We brake for nobody"
JoCool	Posted - 2004.05.21 13:08:00 - [48] Iceblock, you didn't count in WUs.
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.05.21 13:56:00 - [49] Ditto what Jo said, Weapon Upgrades m8y. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Hellek	Posted - 2004.05.21 13:59:00 - [50] Edited by: Hellek on 21/05/2004 14:01:42 with weapon upgrades 5 it still exceeds the 625 it has by a big amount, the apoc is so short on CPU that even lasers + armor reps can be hard to fit. (as we all know, its the BS with the smallest CPU). (and no, I don't request a CPU boost but I think the CPU use of armor hardeners should get decreased by 10-20 or at least named hardeners should be introduced)
JoCool	Posted - 2004.05.21 16:20:00 - [51] To make rails viable for Apocs? I thought we wanted them to use Lasers instead, Hellek. Now who let the troll out of his cage again ?

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