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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:51:00 -
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Well I logged in this morning, to find 10 Eve mail sin my box.
Those 10 Evemails were firstly a very polite mail explaining thi smans personal situation, followed by the 9 mails you will see posted here.
I have absolutely no interest in this "war", but this report seems to be well written and reasonably inpartial.. ish
Anyways, enjoy:
I'll try to keep this is brief and neutral as possible:
The buildup - Most of this was posted at that point. Basicly BoB moves to x-7o, a NPC-station-system in Pure Blind. From there they launch an attack on IRON, and in particular, VFK-. The initial fights are pretty straightforward. BoB throw themselves through the gate, Iron defend it. Main fights are at one gate, but BoB tries to flank and go through another simultaneously. They managed to tackle an Avatar, who DD's their butt and Iron get some quick help by a mix of NC and some 60 RA. Thanks to RA and the titan the fight ends in favour of NC.
Friday passes with no major engagements, BoB building up their base in x-7o and NC mobilizing to support IRON.
Saturday sees some action. NC is camping homeland while reports come of a BoB fleet that approaches from behind/another pipe. NC jump their main fleet towards JU-, where BoB has launched an attack on the cynojammer. Second NC fleet meanwhile prepares to jumpbridge to flank BoB. For some reason they decide to jump to a dead-end system, S-DN, which allows for NC to gather the two fleets again and set up on optimals on the gate. BoB jumps back into JU- and of course get slaughtered. The main part of the NC fleet are not even present, 15min delay on jumps through gates, couple of mins to load grid and a few mins to activate mods. Lag hit both sides bad, but NC had the position and the numbers in this fight.
Sunday has an early/US TZ fight in 2R-, BoB gets repelled here as well. Losses on both sides are pretty equal but NC holds the field.
..later that sunday BoB floods into CCP- and starts to work on the cynojammer. NC has a fleet about the double size compared to the BoB numbers, and when the jammer approaches half armor, NC sends about half fleet into CCP- while the other is trying to flank BoB.
BoB immediately retreats into DO6. NC main fleet follows and starts to clear off all stragglers they can, when 7 (seven) cynos lit up and NC are called back. BoB cyno in at least two titans, a mothership, a bunch of dreads and.. they seem to equip all their pod-pilots with HACs, their fleet goes from BS- to HAC-heavy. While in D06, BoB pops a small, abandoned mining tower. Obviously both sides are reluctant to jump into eachother so.. BoB calls it a day and retreats.
Monday was fairly dead, NC manned their camp while BoB was seen cynoing in/out lots of logistics in x-7o.
Tuesday saw BoB and RA fight over some POS somewhere, reports has it BoB have popped 15 or so RA-towers a bit away but it's nothing anyone bothered to defend as far as I know up until this point. BoB scores a few carrier-kills, while NC is busy killing a carrier/dread of some unknown people somewhere else.
Wednesday had no fight of significance either.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 07:55:17 All in all: BoB have been trying different approaches. Throwing ships at the NC to try 'flood' the dam. Obviously without any success. At several occations they've been trying to flank the NC but reports have come well in time to repel those attacks.
Losses: Both sides lost ships, mostly BoB due to the nature of NC being the defender (and numbers). Regarding infrastructure.. BoB killed one offline small mining POS, and as reports, a handful of RA-POS' somewhere.
Caps: Only caps really fielded is the NC Avatar the first two days, and some assorted carriers/motherships with fighters. BoB had their hotdrop in d06. In the current situation caps arn't really needed.
RA: Hardly been involved apart from that first day, they got their own little thing going on with BoB and their POS'.
NC: Just man the camp, keep scouting BoB and doing their job.
BoB/MAX: Main thing you see is they are trying to kill POS. It's quite obvious they're trying to kill Sov, cyno gens, etc. Logistics, infrastructure. So far they havn't had any impact at all in that regard, but obviously that's a threat not to neglect. To my knowledge the only POS to die so far is mining POS, and well.. we both know they give quite a nice income. In this regard, BoB purely struck RA so far (and I don't know how big impact that had on RA at this point).
All in all BoB have caused damage - to RA. While they lost isk - to NC. I'm not sure that BoB will be successful of killing sov, but the obvious threat is to mining POS' all over. I count MAX as a potential threat, but mainly to mining POS if anything. They'll have a hard time fighting numbers/cynojammers.
And so far their FC's havn't impressed. A few decisions taken that actually made it easier for NC to beat them.
.I think that's as neutral as I can put it.
Some healthy respect is needed for BoB's capfleet, but their conventional fleets are no major threat at this point. FC's taking odd decisions, easy to predict their moves, and cynojammers + numbers effectively counter them (at this point). Obviously this is all subject for change if need be.
All non-BoB should be looking after their POS' at this point. Their main strength with that cap heavy fleet, and their main goal as it seems, is just to kill every POS they see.
As I said, leave my name/no direct quotes please, but I think that's the best/as neutral as it can get view on the MAX-campaign so far.
Happy hunting, see you in space, o7
2008.07.17 02:50 ..just read through the stuff I mailed to you, the 3rd mail wasn't too clear on d06.
1) Their titans didn't fire off DD's there, NC escaped pretty much unharmed. We lost some stragglers, and people that d/c'ed and logged back in. 2) The abandoned tower in d06 = Fade, not the Deklein region. BoB been doing some chestbeating about 'taking sov3' by killing a tower in there. Well.. tbh noone know the tower existed. :) And noone cared about losing sov there either. 3) I don't think BoB is throwing a diversion, they honestly do try to take down the jammer. The POS war they fight is simultanous with the conventionals. And in the d06-fight they obviously had prepared for a hotdrop. Reports from our spies say SirMolle was FCing their conventional fleet at that point (and Shrike was one of the titans that arrived).
Just thought those were worth adding. I think MAX is just that.. if they fight multiple fronts at the same time, they will destroy something, almost all the time.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late, and would of happily posted a viewpoint from BoB n Co had it been sent to me in a similar manner
I enjoyed reading it, thus sharing. No real new news, but none the less a viewpoint that is smacklessish and from the front lines, something rare in COAD recently :)
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joefishy
FIRMA
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:58:00 -
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sexual :)
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darkfuntime
Minmatar Fat J
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:05:00 -
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ty eddz [/url] Take back your existence or die like a punk.
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:08:00 -
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I get lonely too :( send me mail
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Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:28:00 -
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Nice write up.
Mag's
Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
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Sabbellus
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:40:00 -
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Nice read
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:42:00 -
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eddz becoming the chribba of CAOD let it not be so
Good writeup though, finally something that makes some sense
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:18:00 -
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Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:22:00 -
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very nice writeup thanks for sharing ! ------
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:23:00 -
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the fights just started.. www.garia.net |

Nguyen VanPhuoc
Minmatar The Halibuts
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:31:00 -
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aftera rational write up like that it all seems far less exciting than CAOD makes out :( ___________________ MAXimum CAOD!
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
ITT: Two rawr-members ignoring caod-ban to show support for smack-free caod. 
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
ITT: Two rawr-members ignoring caod-ban to show support for smack-free caod. 
make that 3
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:59:00 -
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Yea that was a pretty cool read.
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Kendar
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:05:00 -
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/me spanks the MM members in the thread
"get back in your corner nubs!"
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SpaceSavage
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: SpaceSavage on 17/07/2008 10:22:07 Nice, inaccurate, but nice.  _______________
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:23:00 -
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Aj fink dat vas kajnda intressting. Aj vsnder if vi gett ani msre posts lajk dis?
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: RedClaws on 17/07/2008 10:35:17 So why exactly did they send that report to you eddz?
Edit: No smack, just a question (clarification)
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws Edited by: RedClaws on 17/07/2008 10:35:17 So why exactly did they send that report to you eddz?
Edit: No smack, just a question (clarification)
KIA are a power house in contract CAOD posts. Expecting a stats report on the number of people who read it and the amount of time wasted by those who read their terrible posts.
When Will I be able to post again ? 44 days, 9 hours, 37 minutes, 14 seconds ? 13 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, 15 seconds ? 34 days, 23 hours, 3 minutes, 25 seconds ? 42 days, 11 hours, 42 mi |

MONOCERUS
Strength Of New Ubik Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Well I logged in this morning, to find 10 Eve mail sin my box.
you should grow up a little 
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Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:44:00 -
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If you find it completely ridiculous that this brief summary requires 10 seperate evemails, or if you just feel cheated cos you read a CAOD thread and have nothing to rabble about then support evemail improvements here.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 17/07/2008 11:44:26
MAX INSIDER REPORT: Pure.
Insider (Definition on dictionary):
1.a person who is a member of a group, organization, society, etc. 2.a person belonging to a limited circle of persons who understand the actual facts in a situation or share private knowledge: Insiders knew that the president would veto the bill. 3.a person who has some special advantage or influence. 4.a person in possession of corporate information not generally available to the public, as a director, an accountant, or other officer or employee of a corporation.
How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!? -clp
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Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!?
We are all part of MAX as bob controls our game and they also control MAX.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!?
We are all part of MAX as bob controls our game and they also control MAX.
damn, that sure was witty. good one jim-bob.
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:58:00 -
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I joins fleet kk -----------------------------------
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Aimel
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:59:00 -
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max is very similar to ******'s strategy
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late, and would of happily posted a viewpoint from BoB n Co had it been sent to me in a similar manner
Yeah we'll get right on that.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/07/2008 12:10:18 The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
yeah sure lol -clp
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