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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:51:00 -
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Well I logged in this morning, to find 10 Eve mail sin my box.
Those 10 Evemails were firstly a very polite mail explaining thi smans personal situation, followed by the 9 mails you will see posted here.
I have absolutely no interest in this "war", but this report seems to be well written and reasonably inpartial.. ish
Anyways, enjoy:
I'll try to keep this is brief and neutral as possible:
The buildup - Most of this was posted at that point. Basicly BoB moves to x-7o, a NPC-station-system in Pure Blind. From there they launch an attack on IRON, and in particular, VFK-. The initial fights are pretty straightforward. BoB throw themselves through the gate, Iron defend it. Main fights are at one gate, but BoB tries to flank and go through another simultaneously. They managed to tackle an Avatar, who DD's their butt and Iron get some quick help by a mix of NC and some 60 RA. Thanks to RA and the titan the fight ends in favour of NC.
Friday passes with no major engagements, BoB building up their base in x-7o and NC mobilizing to support IRON.
Saturday sees some action. NC is camping homeland while reports come of a BoB fleet that approaches from behind/another pipe. NC jump their main fleet towards JU-, where BoB has launched an attack on the cynojammer. Second NC fleet meanwhile prepares to jumpbridge to flank BoB. For some reason they decide to jump to a dead-end system, S-DN, which allows for NC to gather the two fleets again and set up on optimals on the gate. BoB jumps back into JU- and of course get slaughtered. The main part of the NC fleet are not even present, 15min delay on jumps through gates, couple of mins to load grid and a few mins to activate mods. Lag hit both sides bad, but NC had the position and the numbers in this fight.
Sunday has an early/US TZ fight in 2R-, BoB gets repelled here as well. Losses on both sides are pretty equal but NC holds the field.
..later that sunday BoB floods into CCP- and starts to work on the cynojammer. NC has a fleet about the double size compared to the BoB numbers, and when the jammer approaches half armor, NC sends about half fleet into CCP- while the other is trying to flank BoB.
BoB immediately retreats into DO6. NC main fleet follows and starts to clear off all stragglers they can, when 7 (seven) cynos lit up and NC are called back. BoB cyno in at least two titans, a mothership, a bunch of dreads and.. they seem to equip all their pod-pilots with HACs, their fleet goes from BS- to HAC-heavy. While in D06, BoB pops a small, abandoned mining tower. Obviously both sides are reluctant to jump into eachother so.. BoB calls it a day and retreats.
Monday was fairly dead, NC manned their camp while BoB was seen cynoing in/out lots of logistics in x-7o.
Tuesday saw BoB and RA fight over some POS somewhere, reports has it BoB have popped 15 or so RA-towers a bit away but it's nothing anyone bothered to defend as far as I know up until this point. BoB scores a few carrier-kills, while NC is busy killing a carrier/dread of some unknown people somewhere else.
Wednesday had no fight of significance either.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 07:55:17 All in all: BoB have been trying different approaches. Throwing ships at the NC to try 'flood' the dam. Obviously without any success. At several occations they've been trying to flank the NC but reports have come well in time to repel those attacks.
Losses: Both sides lost ships, mostly BoB due to the nature of NC being the defender (and numbers). Regarding infrastructure.. BoB killed one offline small mining POS, and as reports, a handful of RA-POS' somewhere.
Caps: Only caps really fielded is the NC Avatar the first two days, and some assorted carriers/motherships with fighters. BoB had their hotdrop in d06. In the current situation caps arn't really needed.
RA: Hardly been involved apart from that first day, they got their own little thing going on with BoB and their POS'.
NC: Just man the camp, keep scouting BoB and doing their job.
BoB/MAX: Main thing you see is they are trying to kill POS. It's quite obvious they're trying to kill Sov, cyno gens, etc. Logistics, infrastructure. So far they havn't had any impact at all in that regard, but obviously that's a threat not to neglect. To my knowledge the only POS to die so far is mining POS, and well.. we both know they give quite a nice income. In this regard, BoB purely struck RA so far (and I don't know how big impact that had on RA at this point).
All in all BoB have caused damage - to RA. While they lost isk - to NC. I'm not sure that BoB will be successful of killing sov, but the obvious threat is to mining POS' all over. I count MAX as a potential threat, but mainly to mining POS if anything. They'll have a hard time fighting numbers/cynojammers.
And so far their FC's havn't impressed. A few decisions taken that actually made it easier for NC to beat them.
.I think that's as neutral as I can put it.
Some healthy respect is needed for BoB's capfleet, but their conventional fleets are no major threat at this point. FC's taking odd decisions, easy to predict their moves, and cynojammers + numbers effectively counter them (at this point). Obviously this is all subject for change if need be.
All non-BoB should be looking after their POS' at this point. Their main strength with that cap heavy fleet, and their main goal as it seems, is just to kill every POS they see.
As I said, leave my name/no direct quotes please, but I think that's the best/as neutral as it can get view on the MAX-campaign so far.
Happy hunting, see you in space, o7
2008.07.17 02:50 ..just read through the stuff I mailed to you, the 3rd mail wasn't too clear on d06.
1) Their titans didn't fire off DD's there, NC escaped pretty much unharmed. We lost some stragglers, and people that d/c'ed and logged back in. 2) The abandoned tower in d06 = Fade, not the Deklein region. BoB been doing some chestbeating about 'taking sov3' by killing a tower in there. Well.. tbh noone know the tower existed. :) And noone cared about losing sov there either. 3) I don't think BoB is throwing a diversion, they honestly do try to take down the jammer. The POS war they fight is simultanous with the conventionals. And in the d06-fight they obviously had prepared for a hotdrop. Reports from our spies say SirMolle was FCing their conventional fleet at that point (and Shrike was one of the titans that arrived).
Just thought those were worth adding. I think MAX is just that.. if they fight multiple fronts at the same time, they will destroy something, almost all the time.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late, and would of happily posted a viewpoint from BoB n Co had it been sent to me in a similar manner
I enjoyed reading it, thus sharing. No real new news, but none the less a viewpoint that is smacklessish and from the front lines, something rare in COAD recently :)
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joefishy
FIRMA
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:58:00 -
[4]
sexual :)
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darkfuntime
Minmatar Fat J
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:05:00 -
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ty eddz [/url] Take back your existence or die like a punk.
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:08:00 -
[6]
I get lonely too :( send me mail
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Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:28:00 -
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Nice write up.
Mag's
Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
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Sabbellus
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:40:00 -
[8]
Nice read
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:42:00 -
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eddz becoming the chribba of CAOD let it not be so
Good writeup though, finally something that makes some sense
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:18:00 -
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Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:22:00 -
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very nice writeup thanks for sharing ! ------
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:23:00 -
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the fights just started.. www.garia.net |

Nguyen VanPhuoc
Minmatar The Halibuts
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:31:00 -
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aftera rational write up like that it all seems far less exciting than CAOD makes out :( ___________________ MAXimum CAOD!
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
ITT: Two rawr-members ignoring caod-ban to show support for smack-free caod. 
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Finaly some one posts a thred about MAX and there isnt any smack.  Who ever your sorce is tell him to keep mailing u so no one will get confused with all the alt smack.
Tols
ITT: Two rawr-members ignoring caod-ban to show support for smack-free caod. 
make that 3
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:59:00 -
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Yea that was a pretty cool read.
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Kendar
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:05:00 -
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/me spanks the MM members in the thread
"get back in your corner nubs!"
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SpaceSavage
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: SpaceSavage on 17/07/2008 10:22:07 Nice, inaccurate, but nice.  _______________
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:23:00 -
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Aj fink dat vas kajnda intressting. Aj vsnder if vi gett ani msre posts lajk dis?
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: RedClaws on 17/07/2008 10:35:17 So why exactly did they send that report to you eddz?
Edit: No smack, just a question (clarification)
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws Edited by: RedClaws on 17/07/2008 10:35:17 So why exactly did they send that report to you eddz?
Edit: No smack, just a question (clarification)
KIA are a power house in contract CAOD posts. Expecting a stats report on the number of people who read it and the amount of time wasted by those who read their terrible posts.
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MONOCERUS
Strength Of New Ubik Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Well I logged in this morning, to find 10 Eve mail sin my box.
you should grow up a little 
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Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:44:00 -
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If you find it completely ridiculous that this brief summary requires 10 seperate evemails, or if you just feel cheated cos you read a CAOD thread and have nothing to rabble about then support evemail improvements here.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 17/07/2008 11:44:26
MAX INSIDER REPORT: Pure.
Insider (Definition on dictionary):
1.a person who is a member of a group, organization, society, etc. 2.a person belonging to a limited circle of persons who understand the actual facts in a situation or share private knowledge: Insiders knew that the president would veto the bill. 3.a person who has some special advantage or influence. 4.a person in possession of corporate information not generally available to the public, as a director, an accountant, or other officer or employee of a corporation.
How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!? -clp
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Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!?
We are all part of MAX as bob controls our game and they also control MAX.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus How the hell is pure. an "insider" of MAX!?
We are all part of MAX as bob controls our game and they also control MAX.
damn, that sure was witty. good one jim-bob.
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:58:00 -
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I joins fleet kk -----------------------------------
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Aimel
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:59:00 -
[28]
max is very similar to ******'s strategy
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late, and would of happily posted a viewpoint from BoB n Co had it been sent to me in a similar manner
Yeah we'll get right on that.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/07/2008 12:10:18 The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
yeah sure lol -clp
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Astasia Orian
Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late, and would of happily posted a viewpoint from BoB n Co had it been sent to me in a similar manner
Yeah we'll get right on that.
Disappointing you didn't die at that crack house you where viewing.
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AIchemist
Gallente Black List Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:14:00 -
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:P
So KIAeddz in with the NC, decent write up on behalf of the NC.I have more vested intrest in the NC being the victors, but silly want-to-be nuetral reports are expected.
Whats not expected is Eddz posting it, like he is not writing these things himself and formatting to resemble an eve-mail.
The battle reports from the NC point of view was an intresting read though, so I'll give ya that.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:29:00 -
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:(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
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Grace Fall
Roast Beef Double Swiss Transport
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Nooble Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
POS shooting rage symptoms spotted. Jake please find your nearest emergency room and get that looked at.
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King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
Says the gutless alt, at least Kia dont need 500 allies to back them up in a fight. 
Maybe when Max achieves something, people will give a dam, attention seeking noobs.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
SSjs de man vo hajds behajnd ann alt . Jo scems ts hack sn oder pepsl, but vatt hav jo d÷nn in Eve? Nst much judgjing hajding behajnd an alt .
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Monsieur Escargots
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:09:00 -
[38]
Hmmm, ironically, reading through this thread, it WAS smack free, till BoB fanbois/ pets got their mitts on it.
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grace Fall
Originally by: Jake Nooble Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
POS shooting rage symptoms spotted. Jake please find your nearest emergency room and get that looked at.
I havent actually shot any pos during the max campaign so pretty burn, also I quite enjoy shooting pos's.
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
Says the gutless alt, at least Kia dont need 500 allies to back them up in a fight. 
Maybe when Max achieves something, people will give a dam, attention seeking noobs.
Im not a gutless alt, there is a reason this character is called Jake Nooble and in White Nova Corp.
Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Hmmm, ironically, reading through this thread, it WAS smack free, till BoB fanbois/ pets got their mitts on it.
Its caod.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:35:00 -
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caod rules -clp
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:57:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/07/2008 12:10:18 The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
I'll have what he's having. -----------------------------------
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Alexios Komnenos
Minmatar Byzantine Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:59:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/07/2008 12:10:18 The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
I cant help but wonder how things wouldve turned out if nC helped out Alice as a North-friendly alliance instead of letting ra get in there since theyll never lift a finger to help anyone but themselves up there.
Nice writeup, keep giving us infos :)
Good points there. It seems as if "MAX" is (at least initially) aimed at RA's moon ISK grab, which the gutless NNC refuses to do much about. The funny thing about it is that if BOB manages to make it untenable for RA to maintain their presence there they are actually doing the NNC a favor in the long run. Ironically.
What would really be interesting is if BOB ever tried to simultaneously pull off a deep raid into RA's homeland in the south while at the same time reinforcing their moon towers in the north... In the end they will have to do something like that if their goal is to force RA to choose between moons or their home territory (and those moons).
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Muadeeb Ousil
Minmatar Office linebackers Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:07:00 -
[43]
3 Dypro's and 8 Proms would equate to about 2 Bil a day.
Given they removed 20 moons and given the fact i doubt RA are mining Chromium, i think there is good chance it is 2 Bil per day.
Hey but who cares, only RA is losing out and from my perspective that dosn't bother me one bit.
Busting moon mines dosn't exactly equal Max Entertainment does it.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:18:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Alexios Komnenos What would really be interesting is if BOB ever tried to simultaneously pull off a deep raid into RA's homeland in the south while at the same time reinforcing their moon towers in the north...
One does not just simply walk into C-J.
Besides this a very poor attempt to derail. Please continue.
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Dream Operator
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:19:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Dream Operator on 17/07/2008 14:21:01
Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 07:55:17
And so far their FC's havn't impressed. A few decisions taken that actually made it easier for NC to beat them.
I think that's as neutral as I can put it.
All non-BoB should be looking after their POS' at this point. Their main strength with that cap heavy fleet, and their main goal as it seems, is just to kill every POS they see.
Quote:
I have no dog in this hunt, but this aint exactly neutral. 
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Alexios Komnenos
Minmatar Byzantine Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:19:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil
3 Dypro's and 8 Proms would equate to about 2 Bil a day.
Given they removed 20 moons and given the fact i doubt RA are mining Chromium, i think there is good chance it is 2 Bil per day.
Hey but who cares, only RA is losing out and from my perspective that dosn't bother me one bit.
Busting moon mines dosn't exactly equal Max Entertainment does it.
No, but look at the underlying reason WHY RA & company have been grabbing every high end moon in the game, regardless of how many allies they have to backstab... ISK for GTC's. Moon mining produces the most steady ISK with the least effort. A huge increase in the price of GTCs=more need to make ISK fast to pay for them, or have to have fewer accounts. Fewer accounts=less force they can put in the field.
So, as I said, if the purpose of MAX is to disrupt this, it's a fairly good play, though they are going to take it on the chin a lot as they have had. It's sort of sickening though as it's the arrogant superrich vs arrogant superrich, the sort of battle you wish BOTH sides would lose!
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:21:00 -
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So... are RA failure cascading yet? -----------------------------------
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:22:00 -
[48]
Originally by: King Fury
Says the gutless alt
it's actually "jake noble"'s (**** me is that punctuation correct?) well known alt.
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PR0PAGANDA
Gallente Raging Emo
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:29:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Faekurias So... are RA failure cascading yet?
Soon from the reports i am getting from my sources.
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Alexios Komnenos
Minmatar Byzantine Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:40:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Faekurias So... are RA failure cascading yet?
No, and that's not going to happen. However, I do foresee RA consuming another ally or two, especially if they have moons and in an area that is difficult for BOB to reach easily if they are pushed out of Deklein.
Anyone who was blue to RA who is now neutral, if they aren't watching their back are fools.
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Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:53:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
I think BOB just went after the ex-Tri regions because they believed they would be poorly defended in comparison to homeland regions. They found a few fringe RA systems that weren't defended but I think BoB is now looking at the dilemma of either getting bogged down in messy sieges or abandoning MAX which would not go down well with megalomaniac leaders.
It will be interesting to see what happens from here. THIS is really the golden opportunity Goons wanted, they have a large number of BoB capitals that do not have the luxury of the Delve fortress. If NC/RA/Goons plan to massacre the capital fleet it would be a crushing blow for BoB.
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I cant help but wonder how things wouldve turned out if Nc helped out Alice as a North-friendly alliance instead of letting ra get in there since theyll never lift a finger to help anyone but themselves up there.
Why should NC make decisions on who should hold space that the NC does not plan to contest? Why should they get involved in non-NC conflicts? If the NC was telling you that you couldn't take over some space then you would be posting on CAOD complaining that the NC is protecting weak alliances who don't deserve to hold space.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Veldya
It will be interesting to see what happens from here. THIS is really the golden opportunity Goons wanted, they have a large number of BoB capitals that do not have the luxury of the Delve fortress. If NC/RA/Goons plan to massacre the capital fleet it would be a crushing blow for BoB.
This is 100% true. The one thing that we absolutely do not want is a huge capital fight.
Definately not.
Seriously.
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Tnilf
Eve Defence Force Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:01:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
I think BOB just went after the ex-Tri regions because they believed they would be poorly defended in comparison to homeland regions. They found a few fringe RA systems that weren't defended but I think BoB is now looking at the dilemma of either getting bogged down in messy sieges or abandoning MAX which would not go down well with megalomaniac leaders.
It will be interesting to see what happens from here. THIS is really the golden opportunity Goons wanted, they have a large number of BoB capitals that do not have the luxury of the Delve fortress. If NC/RA/Goons plan to massacre the capital fleet it would be a crushing blow for BoB.
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I cant help but wonder how things wouldve turned out if Nc helped out Alice as a North-friendly alliance instead of letting ra get in there since theyll never lift a finger to help anyone but themselves up there.
Why should NC make decisions on who should hold space that the NC does not plan to contest? Why should they get involved in non-NC conflicts? If the NC was telling you that you couldn't take over some space then you would be posting on CAOD complaining that the NC is protecting weak alliances who don't deserve to hold space.
You mean like Hydra?
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King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:38:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: Grace Fall
Originally by: Jake Nooble Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
POS shooting rage symptoms spotted. Jake please find your nearest emergency room and get that looked at.
I havent actually shot any pos during the max campaign so pretty burn, also I quite enjoy shooting pos's.
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue whats going on in NC space, I wouldnt have the first clue as to what to write. Plus if I was involved in this conflict from whatever side, I'd write it up from my POV, nothing to hide.
This info is from a member of Pure, and was sent to me just because I made that thread asking for a smackless update, he.. I guess, decided my request was worth some effort on his part.
Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
Says the gutless alt, at least Kia dont need 500 allies to back them up in a fight. 
Maybe when Max achieves something, people will give a dam, attention seeking noobs.
Im not a gutless alt, there is a reason this character is called Jake Nooble and in White Nova Corp.
Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Hmmm, ironically, reading through this thread, it WAS smack free, till BoB fanbois/ pets got their mitts on it.
Its caod.
Doesnt matter which way you look at it, you are an alt, you are gutless and i forgot to add a smacktard also.
Are you the fc thats keeps losing or the BNC thieving pikey?
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NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:39:00 -
[55]
heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:39:00 -
[56]
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
When Will I be able to post again ? 44 days, 9 hours, 37 minutes, 14 seconds ? 13 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, 15 seconds ? 34 days, 23 hours, 3 minutes, 25 seconds ? 42 days, 11 hours, 42 mi |

Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:45:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
the DD is eve pvp at its absolute finest. 
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teh punisher
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:54:00 -
[58]
Originally by: King Fury Doesnt matter which way you look at it, you are an alt, you are gutless and i forgot to add a smacktard also.
Are you the fc thats keeps losing or the BNC thieving pikey?
i'm with this guy. how dare someone post on an alt named similar to their main while their main character is banned from the forums. gutless smacktard.
as for the op, that was an interesting read. i was looking for the caod smack but it never came. maybe there is hope for these forums.
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:54:00 -
[59]
hey yo, let's all have a lawl
at bob's expense
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Kaaii
Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:05:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Kaaii on 17/07/2008 16:06:28
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:06:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Veldya Why should NC make decisions on who should hold space that the NC does not plan to contest? Why should they get involved in non-NC conflicts? If the NC was telling you that you couldn't take over some space then you would be posting on CAOD complaining that the NC is protecting weak alliances who don't deserve to hold space.
NC shouldve made decisions best for them, who would you rather have as neighbour, an alliance dedicated to hold that space, or ra who are just interested int he moons and if things go bad - well for them its not worth it to defend with all they got.
Some russian alliance has taken 2 or more high profile moons from Mostly Harmless in lowsec, would you say that morsusu mihi would be able to stand against them alone, i very much doubt it - does that mean theyre not worthy to hold space? not at all.
The Nc is a group of allainces which alone wont make it far, itll be interesting if they can hold it together and how well its their only chance.
About bob with their max taking moons, i cant imagine for a second that theyre in the north for some moons, no matter what to profit is, im not so sure if theyre after those stations either. So whoever sent that mail to eddz, keep sending em ;)
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Kaaii
Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:06:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
the DD is eve pvp at its absolute finest. 
Much like alt poasting
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Demondrew
Minmatar Trident Enterprises Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:12:00 -
[63]
Thanks KIAEddz,
Finally after so long some actual content on this forum you almost have to go back 6 months for any actual news.
Good structure on the battle reports from a semi subjective point of view. I like many others would like to hear BOB's prospective on this.
This kind of reporting is what used to make COAD worth reading once and a while just to be on the outside looking in. Props to BOB and NC for providing me something to think about at work.
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Fiyah Sun
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:37:00 -
[64]
We had a pretty fun fleet fight last night with the NC in 2R- last night.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:45:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Veldya THIS is really the golden opportunity Goons wanted, they have a large number of BoB capitals that do not have the luxury of the Delve fortress. If NC/RA/Goons plan to massacre the capital fleet it would be a crushing blow for BoB.
Having pacified Stain Empire and conquered Esoteria and Stain, ---
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Uuve Savisaalo
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:48:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Avon The one thing that we absolutely do not want is a huge capital fight. Definately not. Seriously.
the logic goes something like if you've got more deployed capitals on the field, statistics dictate a higher number should load and be functional on the field under the worst of circumstances. that being obvious to the opponent is the real benefit of max - your enemies effectively have to decide whether they wish to engage in, at best, costly gambles or withoutdaw without defense, thereby averting capital losses & the loss of face.
you've to remember f-t though, a numerical overmatch doesn't let you divine the lag. with numbers so high on both sides, any deployment is bound to throw so many wrenches into the node that you get all sorts of black magic effects like 2/3's of your fleet mysteriously going nowhere.
the strategy is an interesting one because it is primarily psychological warfare - put to an actual field test, it can just as well blow up in your own face, which you stand to suffer from by far more than any one of your advesaries.
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Thor Firehammer
Amarr Infinite Sorrow Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:55:00 -
[67]
Originally by: KIAEddZ Well I logged in this morning, to find 10 Eve mail sin my box.
Those 10 Evemails were firstly a very polite mail explaining thi smans personal situation, followed by the 9 mails you will see posted here.
I have absolutely no interest in this "war", but this report seems to be well written and reasonably inpartial.. ish
Anyways, enjoy:
I'll try to keep this is brief and neutral as possible:
The buildup - Most of this was posted at that point. Basicly BoB moves to x-7o, a NPC-station-system in Pure Blind. From there they launch an attack on IRON, and in particular, VFK-. The initial fights are pretty straightforward. BoB throw themselves through the gate, Iron defend it. Main fights are at one gate, but BoB tries to flank and go through another simultaneously. They managed to tackle an Avatar, who DD's their butt and Iron get some quick help by a mix of NC and some 60 RA. Thanks to RA and the titan the fight ends in favour of NC.
Friday passes with no major engagements, BoB building up their base in x-7o and NC mobilizing to support IRON.
Saturday sees some action. NC is camping homeland while reports come of a BoB fleet that approaches from behind/another pipe. NC jump their main fleet towards JU-, where BoB has launched an attack on the cynojammer. Second NC fleet meanwhile prepares to jumpbridge to flank BoB. For some reason they decide to jump to a dead-end system, S-DN, which allows for NC to gather the two fleets again and set up on optimals on the gate. BoB jumps back into JU- and of course get slaughtered. The main part of the NC fleet are not even present, 15min delay on jumps through gates, couple of mins to load grid and a few mins to activate mods. Lag hit both sides bad, but NC had the position and the numbers in this fight.
Sunday has an early/US TZ fight in 2R-, BoB gets repelled here as well. Losses on both sides are pretty equal but NC holds the field.
..later that sunday BoB floods into CCP- and starts to work on the cynojammer. NC has a fleet about the double size compared to the BoB numbers, and when the jammer approaches half armor, NC sends about half fleet into CCP- while the other is trying to flank BoB.
BoB immediately retreats into DO6. NC main fleet follows and starts to clear off all stragglers they can, when 7 (seven) cynos lit up and NC are called back. BoB cyno in at least two titans, a mothership, a bunch of dreads and.. they seem to equip all their pod-pilots with HACs, their fleet goes from BS- to HAC-heavy. While in D06, BoB pops a small, abandoned mining tower. Obviously both sides are reluctant to jump into eachother so.. BoB calls it a day and retreats.
Monday was fairly dead, NC manned their camp while BoB was seen cynoing in/out lots of logistics in x-7o.
Tuesday saw BoB and RA fight over some POS somewhere, reports has it BoB have popped 15 or so RA-towers a bit away but it's nothing anyone bothered to defend as far as I know up until this point. BoB scores a few carrier-kills, while NC is busy killing a carrier/dread of some unknown people somewhere else.
Wednesday had no fight of significance either.
->
So now you know what going on up in the north now close that other thread you had open asking what was going on.
Your attention whoring on these forums are almost equal to TT's but his threads always deliver yours do not. This wat by far the best post you have ever made and thats not saying much.
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Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:07:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
the DD is eve pvp at its absolute finest. 
Much like alt poasting
Which sucks the most, (i) alt posting, (ii) proliferation of titans, or (iii) being in EXE?
Its a tough one.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:09:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
The Nc is a group of allainces which alone wont make it far, itll be interesting if they can hold it together and how well its their only chance.
Razor would do fine on their own, the rest i guess you are right though.
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SunglassesInSpace
SPACE DUDES
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:10:00 -
[70]
KIAEddz you're just a big forums attention *****, man.
You don't know what it's like up there man, you don't know what it's liiiiiiiiike!!!!!
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Estios
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:20:00 -
[71]
It just amazes me how many Goons post on this forum, I dont even know what/who you are. Posting on CAOD appears to be the only thing you have ever acheived in EVE , gg.
The hatred you have is admirable, yay for the internet
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Estios It just amazes me how many Goons post on this forum, I dont even know what/who you are. Posting on CAOD appears to be the only thing you have ever acheived in EVE , gg.
MY EVE ACHIEVEMENTS:
BECOME A DICE PILOT: WRITE 10 HORRIBLE NERDY POSTS ACHIEVEMENT: UNLOCKED! -clp
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Mo'Chuisle
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:49:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
the DD is eve pvp at its absolute finest. 
Much like alt poasting
Which sucks the most, (i) alt posting, (ii) proliferation of titans, or (iii) being in EXE?
Its a tough one.
Duh, being in ExE ofc
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bloomich
Caldari In Siders
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Posted - 2008.07.17 18:04:00 -
[74]
I got a evemail from a KIA pilot unhappy about Eddz's attention whoring and recent fake cotracts. Can I start a new thread as well?
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Straight Chillen
Gallente Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.17 18:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
You don't know what it's like up there man, you don't know what it's liiiiiiiiike!!!!!
I see somebody was watching Rambo too!
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.07.17 18:56:00 -
[76]
Better reports than most of the garbage in these forums. Too bad the Pure guy didn't just post it on his own behalf. I suspect he'd have just gotten the same amount of trolling regardless.
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Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.07.17 20:04:00 -
[77]
this report allows outsiders to understand what is maximum dammage, MAX ? winning fleetbattles and kill hundreds of insured battleships? or denie your main foe income worth of billions per day by stoping highend moonmining on multiple locations? success of a campaingn is measured by meeting objectives. its obvious that bobs objectives are not KB stats in this campaign as they are clearly accepting disproportional causalitys to meet there objectives. with my limited access to information i would not call the max campaign a failture yet. it is another interestiong aproach to the economic side of the conflict between gbc and the red front, a answer to the increasing number of highend moons ra are using. will follow with interest
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Cpt Lollercakes
Warriors of COAD
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Posted - 2008.07.17 20:15:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Cpt Lollercakes on 17/07/2008 20:16:17 Edited by: Cpt Lollercakes on 17/07/2008 20:15:43
Originally by: Mah Kraah this report allows outsiders to understand what is maximum dammage, MAX ? winning fleetbattles and kill hundreds of insured battleships? or denie your main foe income worth of billions per day by stoping highend moonmining on multiple locations? success of a campaingn is measured by meeting objectives. its obvious that bobs objectives are not KB stats in this campaign as they are clearly accepting disproportional causalitys to meet there objectives. with my limited access to information i would not call the max campaign a failture yet. it is another interestiong aproach to the economic side of the conflict between gbc and the red front, a answer to the increasing number of highend moons ra are using. will follow with interest
This made my eyes bleed and I'm still confused. MAX is the guy in the pink furry hat, right?
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari Demon Theory OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 20:24:00 -
[79]
Originally by: King Fury
Says the gutless alt, at least Kia dont need 500 allies to back them up in a fight. 
Yes they do. Thats why they gave up period basis without a fight.
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Professor Impossible
Claflin Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 22:02:00 -
[80]
My understanding of the MAX campaign is that it is just going to keep going and going and going. NC may be able to repel them many many times, and BoB may take more losses, but it's just going to keep going and going and eventually BoB may start to make some serious headway. My impression is that because it's the beginning of the campaign they are trying out a bunch of different tactics. When they start figuring out which tactics work the best things may start to change.
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.17 22:08:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Jake Nooble
Originally by: NerftheSmurf heh, RA nailed 2 gbc dreads
then got doomsdayed.
the DD is eve pvp at its absolute finest. 
HAMMERFALL INDUSTRIES well almost
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.17 23:11:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day
You're misinformed.
The raw materials from one Dysprosium moon yields approximately 5B isk per month, based on recent average market prices. -----------------------------------------
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Jita Mistress
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.17 23:36:00 -
[83]
LOL at Rexthor feebly trying to dent the NC morale with his terrible posting. That kind of thing doesn't really work after having your fleets obliterated 7 times in a row.
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Kira Knightly
Caldari Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2008.07.18 00:20:00 -
[84]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day
You're misinformed.
The raw materials from one Dysprosium moon yields approximately 5B isk per month, based on recent average market prices.
At 85k a unit its approx 6 Bil. Its another 2.5 Bil for each Promo moon.
A lot depends on how many of those 20 moons were one or the other 5 Dyrpos and 10 Promo's would probably be close enough to be classed as 2 Bil a day.
However only RA and BoB (and a handfull of NC/ex-Tri individuals will know exactly how many of those 20 moons were the top 2)
One of the Regions up in the NW corner had 17 of them. So given the fact that its 2-3 regions worth of top end moons i id say they have got somewhere inbetween the quoted 2 Bil per day and a more realistic 1 Bil per day.
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Hugo Splat
Myrmidons
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Posted - 2008.07.18 00:47:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jake Nooble Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
Atleast his Alliance didnt cheat to get where they are 
Free sabres anyone?
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Alexa Komnenos
Minmatar Byzantine Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.18 03:38:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Kira Knightly
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day
You're misinformed.
The raw materials from one Dysprosium moon yields approximately 5B isk per month, based on recent average market prices.
At 85k a unit its approx 6 Bil. Its another 2.5 Bil for each Promo moon.
A lot depends on how many of those 20 moons were one or the other 5 Dyrpos and 10 Promo's would probably be close enough to be classed as 2 Bil a day.
However only RA and BoB (and a handfull of NC/ex-Tri individuals will know exactly how many of those 20 moons were the top 2)
One of the Regions up in the NW corner had 17 of them. So given the fact that its 2-3 regions worth of top end moons i id say they have got somewhere inbetween the quoted 2 Bil per day and a more realistic 1 Bil per day.
One solution to the Moon Scourge would be if moon mineral spawns shifted over time, so that any given moon will contain certain minerals, but once "mined out" it shifts to another. Say every 3 months all the moons are randomly reset, which would give anyone a reasonable amount of time to get a return on investment. This way there would be incentive for exploration, and there would be the potential for ANY moon to be a high end, for a time. It would also prevent the best spawns from being static, and thus, controllable by the top power blocs.
Of course, Bob and RA would cry another ocean if that were to happen.
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Haargoth Agamar
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 05:45:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Hugo Splat
Originally by: Jake Nooble Eddz maybe when your corp/alliance achieves something worthy in this game you can make a thread about it. But until then your a clueless pubbie, because lets face it, your corp and alliance is pretty awful.
Atleast his Alliance didnt cheat to get where they are 
Free sabres anyone?
Nice Sabre, I'll take it?
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SunglassesInSpace
SPACE DUDES
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Posted - 2008.07.18 09:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: SunglassesInSpace KIAEddz you're just a big forums attention *****, man.
You don't know what it's like up there man, you don't know what it's liiiiiiiiike!!!!!
damn mods stealth editing my post
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Saffronique
Epic Hyena Props
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Posted - 2008.07.18 13:08:00 -
[89]
Out of interest why is a pure guy mailing Eddz to post on the forum? 
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NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.18 17:40:00 -
[90]
bob has yet to take any dyspro moons so I'm not sure why people are so busy spouting numbers about them
bob's taken a couple of promes and some crappier stuff, pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
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Max Bauer
Happy Tree Friends
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:00:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Max Bauer on 18/07/2008 18:00:42
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons
so you're the one with the clue obviously 
and i was wondering who stole it we're not dead. yet. |

General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:13:00 -
[92]
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons
You sound about as well informed as me. Care to join Skullduggery Inc?
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:19:00 -
[93]
Originally by: NerftheSmurf pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
But not as impressive as your coalition of 10K+ failed attempt to send this 1K to empire for 2 years and to ruin this game for everybody else. 
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:29:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Moonlight Express ruin this game for everybody else.
You're confusing us with CCP
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bloomich
Caldari In Siders
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:32:00 -
[95]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day
You're misinformed.
The raw materials from one Dysprosium moon yields approximately 5B isk per month, based on recent average market prices.
People sell moon mins on market?
Its like those people selling veldspar and pyroxies cheaper than even if people with the worst refining skill would get by refining it and selling minerals.
Try turning moon mins into reactions and then work out the isk/day.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:33:00 -
[96]
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons so I'm not sure why people are so busy spouting numbers about them
bob's taken a couple of promes and some crappier stuff, pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
Fine, I heard goonies have a dyspro moon in ga- in PURE BLIND. We'll be attacking it. I assume YOU come defend it once it comes out. |

Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.18 19:26:00 -
[97]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons so I'm not sure why people are so busy spouting numbers about them
bob's taken a couple of promes and some crappier stuff, pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
Fine, I heard goonies have a dyspro moon in ga- in PURE BLIND. We'll be attacking it. I assume YOU come defend it once it comes out.
Of course they will. They are on the horn right now to get everyone they didnÆt backstab yet to come and do RAGoons bidding for them. And whoever does not show up will be their next target.
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.18 20:45:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons so I'm not sure why people are so busy spouting numbers about them
bob's taken a couple of promes and some crappier stuff, pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
Fine, I heard goonies have a dyspro moon in ga- in PURE BLIND. We'll be attacking it. I assume YOU come defend it once it comes out.
Of course they will. They are on the horn right now to get everyone they didnÆt backstab yet to come and do RAGoons bidding for them. And whoever does not show up will be their next target.
^^ ex-Kos FREAKING THE HELL OUT itt ^^
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Map Screen
Flat Earth Society Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.07.18 23:29:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Tress Macneille
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: TWD Fine, I heard goonies have a dyspro moon in ga- in PURE BLIND. We'll be attacking it. I assume YOU come defend it once it comes out.
Of course they will. They are on the horn right now to get everyone they didnÆt backstab yet to come and do RAGoons bidding for them. And whoever does not show up will be their next target.
^^ ex-Kos FREAKING THE HELL OUT itt ^^
More like ex-ASCN
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NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.19 01:13:00 -
[100]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: NerftheSmurf bob has yet to take any dyspro moons so I'm not sure why people are so busy spouting numbers about them
bob's taken a couple of promes and some crappier stuff, pretty impressive for a fleet that had 1k people in it the first day
Fine, I heard goonies have a dyspro moon in ga- in PURE BLIND. We'll be attacking it. I assume YOU come defend it once it comes out.
sorry, we're too busy getting our asses kicked by stain empire, no time to defend up there
watch out for evoke though they ganked us good when we took that moon
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.19 02:16:00 -
[101]
Originally by: KIAEddZ :(
I havent got a clue
quoted for truth.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.19 02:46:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Alexios Komnenos
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/07/2008 12:10:18 The towers bob takes down from ra yield about 2b isk per day - quiete some isk there even for bob and even mroe so for their pets should they get a piece from it.
I cant help but wonder how things wouldve turned out if nC helped out Alice as a North-friendly alliance instead of letting ra get in there since theyll never lift a finger to help anyone but themselves up there.
Nice writeup, keep giving us infos :)
Good points there. It seems as if "MAX" is (at least initially) aimed at RA's moon ISK grab, which the gutless NNC refuses to do much about. The funny thing about it is that if BOB manages to make it untenable for RA to maintain their presence there they are actually doing the NNC a favor in the long run. Ironically.
What would really be interesting is if BOB ever tried to simultaneously pull off a deep raid into RA's homeland in the south while at the same time reinforcing their moon towers in the north... In the end they will have to do something like that if their goal is to force RA to choose between moons or their home territory (and those moons).
I from a strategy point of view see why they don't, and why BoB is going after RA.
Originally by: Malcanis CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.07.19 06:46:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Faekurias So... are RA failure cascading yet?
Check Eddy's in box, everyone who is anyone would eve-mail him first.
So he would have the most accurate point of view in the game.
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Fey Ling
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.19 08:34:00 -
[104]
nice post op, its a shame as soon as the goon post these decent threads turn to shit :(
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Trist Ian
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Posted - 2008.08.08 00:00:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Trist Ian on 08/08/2008 00:00:49 join our public channel "warped public" :-)
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Ish'Tari
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.08 05:28:00 -
[106]
Let me explain Pure to all in its purest form.
Pure like to camp the entrance to their 0 space like everyone else and they do this often and are very good at it. I will explain how.
Pure camp the system usually with at least 10 people. Sometimes for hours nothing happens, boring normal day to day business. Then all of a sudden someone sais on local: "Two hostiles jumping in". The entire 10 man gang leaves gate. 10 man gang in its entirety jumps out of system and runs from two neutrals . Neutrals blow up any unsuspecting pilot(s) who don't know it's Pure custom for a whole fleet to run from two ships while lolling.
Buy new ship, back to gate, camping with 13 Pure members. Someone shouts in local "Three neutrals jumping in". Watch in amazement as 13 Pure members flee the gate and system . After losing ship go to intel channel and swear at everyone in that channel, then leave alliance.
Pure are the biggest noobs I have ever seen. They do not deserve to leave noob space let alone hold any space. What are these noobs going to do when a fleet turns up on their doorstep? I suspect abandon region because they're too scared to get shot at.
Pure, I hope you are next. I will enjoy tearing you apart 
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.08 06:02:00 -
[107]
good write up sounds like bob annoyed that cyno jammers are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at iron to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game ( could be wrong)
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Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.08 06:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: ollobrains2 good write up sounds like bob annoyed that cyno jammers are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at iron to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game ( could be wrong)
BoB would have struggled to remain the entity it is without them.
I don't think anyone could hold out without them long enough to matter if enough numbers show up at your doorstep. The problem is not so much CJs as to what is a better system to prevent EVE turning into timezone wars.
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pafkata
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:19:00 -
[109]
Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 17/07/2008 08:05:08 As I say, I have 0 interest in this war as of late
...but i keep talking just for it
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Ish'Tari
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: ollobrains2 good write up sounds like bob annoyed that cyno jammers are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at iron to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game ( could be wrong)
BoB would have struggled to remain the entity it is without them.
I don't think anyone could hold out without them long enough to matter if enough numbers show up at your doorstep. The problem is not so much CJs as to what is a better system to prevent EVE turning into timezone wars.
This is supposed to mean what? All EVE players should live in the same TZ? That you have a problem with people worldwide from playing this game?
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Ish'Tari
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:41:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Ish''Tari on 08/08/2008 08:43:06
Originally by: ollobrains2 Drama write up sounds like noob posters spamming forums with nonsense are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at the forums to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game (I know I'm right)
There I fixed that for you, nice of me isn't it?
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Dazhbog
T C B
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:55:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Ish'Tari Edited by: Ish''Tari on 08/08/2008 08:43:06
Originally by: ollobrains2 Drama write up sounds like noob posters spamming forums with nonsense are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at the forums to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game (I know I'm right)
There I fixed that for you, nice of me isn't it?
Your posting is just awful.
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Ish'Tari
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.08 10:15:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Dazhbog
Originally by: Ish'Tari Edited by: Ish''Tari on 08/08/2008 08:43:06
Originally by: ollobrains2 Drama write up sounds like noob posters spamming forums with nonsense are so "over powered" sop just throwing themselves at the forums to get ccp to change the dynamics of the game (I know I'm right)
There I fixed that for you, nice of me isn't it?
Your posting is just awful.
I know, the truth is always the worst thing isn't it? But thanks for the compliment anyway.
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Monsieur Escargots
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:27:00 -
[114]
Seriously, stop posting. you are worse than the BoB pet alts. At least they know what they write is utter shite and hide behind a faceless entity to do it.
You are either a troll or a ******, can't decide which yet.
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Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:37:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Seriously, stop posting. you are worse than the BoB pet alts. At least they know what they write is utter shite and hide behind a faceless entity to do it.
You are either a troll or a ******, can't decide which yet.
Come join the party in YAO. If you are annoyed by her this is your chance to get even. go go go go go.
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Liranan
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:45:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Pamangkin
Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Seriously, stop posting. you are worse than the BoB pet alts. At least they know what they write is utter shite and hide behind a faceless entity to do it.
You are either a troll or a ******, can't decide which yet.
Come join the party in YAO. If you are annoyed by her this is your chance to get even. go go go go go.
 Farjung is my God |

Tifa Lionheart
Minmatar The Beautiful People
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Posted - 2008.08.08 18:58:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Ish'Tari Edited by: Ish''Tari on 08/08/2008 05:44:45 Let me explain Pure to all in its purest form.
Pure like to camp the entrance to their 0 space like everyone else and they do this often and are very good at it. I will explain how.
Pure camp the system usually with at least 10 people. Sometimes for hours nothing happens, boring normal day to day business. Then all of a sudden someone sais in local: "Two hostiles jumping in". The entire 10 man gang leaves gate. 10 man gang in its entirety jumps out of system and runs from two neutrals . Neutrals blow up any unsuspecting pilot(s) who don't know it's Pure custom for a whole fleet to run from two ships while lolling.
Buy new ship, back to gate, camping with 13 Pure members. Someone shouts in local "Three neutrals jumping in". Watch in amazement as 13 Pure members flee the gate and system . After losing ship go to intel channel and swear at everyone in that channel, call them whatever name you can come up with and subsequently leave alliance.
Purely Noobs are the biggest noobs I have ever seen. They do not deserve to leave noob space let alone hold any space. What are these noobs going to do when a fleet turns up on their doorstep? I suspect abandon region because they're too scared to get shot at. They might put up a fight 100 vs 0 but 100 vs 1 is a tricky matter.
Pure, I hope you are next. I will enjoy tearing you apart 
Why, what are you gonna do about it?
All you've done so far is kill nothing and lose 4 ships in one day in p-2ttl
that was three weeks ago, and you've done nothing since. so I'm sure that PURE are quaking in their boots.
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Nocturnal Avenger
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 11:43:00 -
[118]
It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt? |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.19 11:49:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Are the NC leaders really keeping you in the dark? hehe, no suprise there.
Down to me to inform you then, I guess.
Max is currently cleansing Pure Blind/Fade of all RA structures. This is a fairly dull process but its nearing completion - there were a LOT of POS to get through. Where RA moon miners once stood, now stand BoB moon miners.
One the 'mopping up' of Pure Blind/Fade is complete, which will be very soon (next few days at most), I'm sure we'll see what else MAX has planned.
I don't know what that will be, but I know what I hope it will be :)
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:00:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Are the NC leaders really keeping you in the dark? hehe, no suprise there.
So according to you what they are keeping their members in the dark about is the fact that BoB is blowing up some RA moon mining POS and that after that you have no idea what they are going to do.
Awesome intell. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:04:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Are the NC leaders really keeping you in the dark? hehe, no suprise there.
So according to you what they are keeping their members in the dark about is the fact that BoB is blowing up some RA moon mining POS and that after that you have no idea what they are going to do.
Awesome intell.
Are you stupid or just trolling?
He asked 'has max ground to a halt'?
And I replied with what the GBC was occupied doing.
Seriously, if you can't post anything intelligent, amusing, or constructive then just stop posting altogether.
ta x |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:12:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Basically we've blown up quite a few POS in Fade / Pure Blind / Deklein. The NC apparently did not want most of these POS as they didn't bother defend, what other reason would there be? Maybe they're even grateful towards us for cleaning up the space.
NC likes to blow up a few of our battleships from time to time. In return we blow up a few of their motherships from time to time.
That's pretty much it I think? |

Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:43:00 -
[123]
Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 19/08/2008 12:17:49
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Basically we've blown up quite a few POS in Fade / Pure Blind / Deklein. The NC apparently did not want most of these POS as they didn't bother defend, what other reason would there be? Maybe they're even grateful towards us for cleaning up the space.
NC likes to blow up a few of our battleships from time to time. In return we blow up a few of their motherships from time to time.
That's pretty much it I think?
Edit:
I also have to add that according to an ex-RA guy BoB is 20% responsible for killing RA which is quite the bold statement because according to the respected and known caod poster Darius Johnson it's not true.
I want a little TWD for the top of my pencil! |

Nocturnal Avenger
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:54:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Nocturnal Avenger on 19/08/2008 12:56:12
Originally by: TWD Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Heh - I look at your KB on a daily basis, since it gives a good indication of what's going down. The weekend showed almost no activity, so I wondered what you were up to.
Anyway - thanks for the update (same to you Butter).
Edit: poor language |

Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.08.19 13:32:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 19/08/2008 12:17:49
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Basically we've blown up quite a few POS in Fade / Pure Blind / Deklein. The NC apparently did not want most of these POS as they didn't bother defend, what other reason would there be? Maybe they're even grateful towards us for cleaning up the space.
NC likes to blow up a few of our battleships from time to time. In return we blow up a few of their motherships from time to time.
That's pretty much it I think?
Edit:
I also have to add that according to an ex-RA guy BoB is 20% responsible for killing RA which is quite the bold statement because according to the respected and known caod poster Darius Johnson it's not true.
I want a little TWD for the top of my pencil!
You want TWD on top of your little pencil?
Dude....  |

Omeega
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.19 13:46:00 -
[126]
Originally by: TWD
I also have to add that according to an ex-RA guy BoB is 20% responsible for killing RA which is quite the bold statement because according to the respected and known caod poster Darius Johnson it's not true.
Look at me! Look at me! I'm an ex RA and I think you didn't do squat :(
But I'm obviousely not brownnosing you enough on MSN, I'll be right there.
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Monsieur Escargots
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2008.08.19 13:50:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Butter Dog Seriously, if you can't post anything intelligent, amusing, or constructive then just stop posting altogether.
ta x
And yet YOU still post.. |

Tnilf
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.19 15:21:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Edited by: Nocturnal Avenger on 19/08/2008 12:56:12
Originally by: TWD Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Heh - I look at your KB on a daily basis, since it gives a good indication of what's going down. The weekend showed almost no activity, so I wondered what you were up to.
Anyway - thanks for the update (same to you Butter).
Edit: poor language
Its not because we arent actively killing people and their things. It is because they run and hide far more. |

HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 15:27:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 19/08/2008 12:17:49
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger It's been a while without decent information so - did MAX really grind to a halt?
Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
Basically we've blown up quite a few POS in Fade / Pure Blind / Deklein. The NC apparently did not want most of these POS as they didn't bother defend, what other reason would there be? Maybe they're even grateful towards us for cleaning up the space.
NC likes to blow up a few of our battleships from time to time. In return we blow up a few of their motherships from time to time.
That's pretty much it I think?
Edit:
I also have to add that according to an ex-RA guy BoB is 20% responsible for killing RA which is quite the bold statement because according to the respected and known caod poster Darius Johnson it's not true.
I want a little TWD for the top of my pencil!
You want TWD on top of your little pencil?
Dude.... 
Hhahahahha Nick got p0wnedski!

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Ackaroth
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 15:43:00 -
[130]
Originally by: TWD Excellent question. I see it as my duty to keep a player who is obviously not playing currently informed.
ITT: TWD is a saint? |

Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 19:44:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Butter Dog Seriously, if you can't post anything intelligent, amusing, or constructive then just stop posting altogether.
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Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 20:59:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 21:05:23
Some BOB were VERY busy this weekend blowing up RA POS in Pure Blind. A few people turned up to see what they were up to and interfere, but none of us could muster the motivation to stay logged on for long. It was totally yawntastic. BOB's incredibly exciting roadtrip, where the largest active alliance in the game and hundreds of players who don't have the balls to fight them and find riding their coattails the limit of their ambition and ability in the game, rolls on. Given how rare the fight between BOB and their opponents is which ISN'T decided in advance, most northern residents, and tbf, most GBC members, no longer bother turning up.
As many of us on both sides have discussed, the whole MAX campaign is totally devoid of risk to the GBC side. They never engage where there is danger (normally having a plethora of spies in every opposing gang in range) of losing anything that anyone cares about. Given the GBC moon income is approaching the Trillion isk every two months, again, none of their losses matter enough to even get any adrenaline going. As some bobbits will tell you, they aren't there to fight .. only to win .. and they are very good at picking fights to make that so.
Send me an email if something interesting is scheduled. I can't be assed running IRC when I'm watching TV etc, nevermind leaving EVE running.
Myn |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:15:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 21:05:23
Some BOB were VERY busy this weekend blowing up RA POS in Pure Blind. A few people turned up to see what they were up to and interfere, but none of us could muster the motivation to stay logged on for long. It was totally yawntastic. BOB's incredibly exciting roadtrip, where the largest active alliance in the game and hundreds of players who don't have the balls to fight them and find riding their coattails the limit of their ambition and ability in the game, rolls on. Given how rare the fight between BOB and their opponents is which ISN'T decided in advance, most northern residents, and tbf, most GBC members, no longer bother turning up.
As many of us on both sides have discussed, the whole MAX campaign is totally devoid of risk to the GBC side. They never engage where there is danger (normally having a plethora of spies in every opposing gang in range) of losing anything that anyone cares about. Given the GBC moon income is approaching the Trillion isk every two months, again, none of their losses matter enough to even get any adrenaline going. As some bobbits will tell you, they aren't there to fight .. only to win .. and they are very good at picking fights to make that so.
Send me an email if something interesting is scheduled. I can't be assed running IRC when I'm watching TV etc, nevermind leaving EVE running.
Myn
Awesome post, would like to see more updates coming from you. |

Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:19:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 21:05:23
Some BOB were VERY busy this weekend blowing up RA POS in Pure Blind. A few people turned up to see what they were up to and interfere, but none of us could muster the motivation to stay logged on for long. It was totally yawntastic. BOB's incredibly exciting roadtrip, where the largest active alliance in the game and hundreds of players who don't have the balls to fight them and find riding their coattails the limit of their ambition and ability in the game, rolls on. Given how rare the fight between BOB and their opponents is which ISN'T decided in advance, most northern residents, and tbf, most GBC members, no longer bother turning up.
As many of us on both sides have discussed, the whole MAX campaign is totally devoid of risk to the GBC side. They never engage where there is danger (normally having a plethora of spies in every opposing gang in range) of losing anything that anyone cares about. Given the GBC moon income is approaching the Trillion isk every two months, again, none of their losses matter enough to even get any adrenaline going. As some bobbits will tell you, they aren't there to fight .. only to win .. and they are very good at picking fights to make that so.
Send me an email if something interesting is scheduled. I can't be assed running IRC when I'm watching TV etc, nevermind leaving EVE running.
Myn
Oh well if its one eve-o then it must be true. Its all kinda like your own epic defense of fade against the russian menace. |

Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:46:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 21:48:22
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Some BOB were VERY busy this weekend blowing up RA POS in Pure Blind. A few people turned up to see what they were up to and interfere, but none of us could muster the motivation to stay logged on for long. It was totally yawntastic. BOB's incredibly exciting roadtrip, where the largest active alliance in the game and hundreds of players who don't have the balls to fight them and find riding their coattails the limit of their ambition and ability in the game, rolls on. Given how rare the fight between BOB and their opponents is which ISN'T decided in advance, most northern residents, and tbf, most GBC members, no longer bother turning up.
As many of us on both sides have discussed, the whole MAX campaign is totally devoid of risk to the GBC side. They never engage where there is danger (normally having a plethora of spies in every opposing gang in range) of losing anything that anyone cares about. Given the GBC moon income is approaching the Trillion isk every two months, again, none of their losses matter enough to even get any adrenaline going. As some bobbits will tell you, they aren't there to fight .. only to win .. and they are very good at picking fights to make that so.
Send me an email if something interesting is scheduled. I can't be assed running IRC when I'm watching TV etc, nevermind leaving EVE running.
Myn
Awesome post, would like to see more updates coming from you.
Thank you. I note with amusement that you don't dispute any of the points in my post. But then, as half the directors in your corp are saying most of the same things, that's not really surprising.
Feel free to let us know when you do something risky, dangerous or exciting. Ganks don't count - particularly those where the opposing gang TS is being fed into your ear.
Myn |

Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:58:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 22:04:34
Originally by: Coranor
Oh well if its one eve-o then it must be true. Its all kinda like your own epic defense of fade against the russian menace.
I wouldn't go that far - you post on EVE-O, so it can't ALL be true.
I've never had a problem letting BOB or Goons achieve my goals for me. BOB are far more capable of removing RA POS from Fade and Pure Blind than my alliance was. Who did you THINK supplied the list of RA Dysprosium and Promethium moons for you to target?
According to one of our force estimates, your alliance and hangers-on had twice as many motherships, three times as many dreadnaughts, ten times as many Titans, and six times as many battleships as Project Alice and residents had at our peak. And its still taken you nearly two months to clear MOST (not all!!!) of the RA POS from Pure Blind and Fade. Keep up the good work. Then go home, thanks.
Myn |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 21:59:00 -
[137]
More |

Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 22:04:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Thank you. I note with amusement that you don't dispute any of the points in my post. But then, as half the directors in your corp are saying most of the same things, that's not really surprising.
You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, right? |

Rachel Melach
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.08.19 22:15:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Thank you. I note with amusement that you don't dispute any of the points in my post. But then, as half the directors in your corp are saying most of the same things, that's not really surprising.
You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, right?
And yet you hazard to enter the fray? Must have some experience. |

Max Teranous
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 22:16:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Thank you. I note with amusement that you don't dispute any of the points in my post. But then, as half the directors in your corp are saying most of the same things, that's not really surprising.
You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, right?
Now you know why we ignore you in IRC.
/me runs...
Max  |

Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.19 22:34:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 22:04:34
Originally by: Coranor
Oh well if its one eve-o then it must be true. Its all kinda like your own epic defense of fade against the russian menace.
I wouldn't go that far - you post on EVE-O, so it can't ALL be true.
I've never had a problem letting BOB or Goons achieve my goals for me. BOB are far more capable of removing RA POS from Fade and Pure Blind than my alliance was. Who did you THINK supplied the list of RA Dysprosium and Promethium moons for you to target?
According to one of our force estimates, your alliance and hangers-on had twice as many motherships, three times as many dreadnaughts, ten times as many Titans, and six times as many battleships as Project Alice and residents had at our peak. And its still taken you nearly two months to clear MOST (not all!!!) of the RA POS from Pure Blind and Fade. Keep up the good work. Then go home, thanks.
Myn
/me shrugs so we suck cause we're too slow? Your right though its not all true, that part about you actually defending fade was a total lie. Your attempt to claim credit for anything is just funny though. |

Fenrals
RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.20 00:16:00 -
[142]
Al Gore gave us the moon intel, and he invented the internet too |

Iroku Mata
Minmatar Endovelicus Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.20 01:37:00 -
[143]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
->
Wanna be an important insider! LOL... everyone knows KIAEddz is a shit talker. |

Gamesguy
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 03:59:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 22:04:34
Originally by: Coranor
Oh well if its one eve-o then it must be true. Its all kinda like your own epic defense of fade against the russian menace.
I wouldn't go that far - you post on EVE-O, so it can't ALL be true.
I've never had a problem letting BOB or Goons achieve my goals for me. BOB are far more capable of removing RA POS from Fade and Pure Blind than my alliance was. Who did you THINK supplied the list of RA Dysprosium and Promethium moons for you to target?
Myn
You mean the list that half of tri(current and former) member had? That list?
Super secret intel I tell ya.  |

Tomas Ysidro
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.20 05:23:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 22:04:34
Originally by: Coranor
Oh well if its one eve-o then it must be true. Its all kinda like your own epic defense of fade against the russian menace.
I wouldn't go that far - you post on EVE-O, so it can't ALL be true.
I've never had a problem letting BOB or Goons achieve my goals for me. BOB are far more capable of removing RA POS from Fade and Pure Blind than my alliance was. Who did you THINK supplied the list of RA Dysprosium and Promethium moons for you to target?
Myn
You mean the list that half of tri(current and former) member had? That list?
Super secret intel I tell ya. 
It's me, I'm the list supplier |

Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 06:43:00 -
[146]
Nice to see you're having fun Mynas. Our guys are having lots of fun too. |

halp me
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 07:49:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Fenrals Al Gore gave us the moon intel, and he invented the internet too
confirmin dis, al gore is our ceo. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.20 09:51:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 19/08/2008 21:05:23
Some BOB were VERY busy this weekend blowing up RA POS in Pure Blind. A few people turned up to see what they were up to and interfere, but none of us could muster the motivation to stay logged on for long. It was totally yawntastic. BOB's incredibly exciting roadtrip, where the largest active alliance in the game and hundreds of players who don't have the balls to fight them and find riding their coattails the limit of their ambition and ability in the game, rolls on. Given how rare the fight between BOB and their opponents is which ISN'T decided in advance, most northern residents, and tbf, most GBC members, no longer bother turning up.
Myn
Well I wouldn't count on that for long.
Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening.
So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space.
If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's.
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.08.20 10:22:00 -
[149]
i dont see edz posting anything now.. so what is the insiders view? you lost all your space and items.. the people are getting scared of all there assets and trying to get out?
let this be alesson and wait a couple of days before posting ;)
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:43:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Thank you. I note with amusement that you don't dispute any of the points in my post. But then, as half the directors in your corp are saying most of the same things, that's not really surprising.
You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, right?
Now you know why we ignore you in IRC.
/me runs...
Max 
Owned by my own corp.
****ing ****s I tells thee! |

Hungo
Minmatar The Unholy Allance
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:50:00 -
[151]
I cant belive no one has ever sadi this to you eddz, no one cares what youy think |

Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:52:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening.
So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space.
If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's.
Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on.
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Tempest Kane
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:53:00 -
[153]
in before the shuttle firesale  |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:56:00 -
[154]
I think your assessment is overly harsh. It's not really 'dragging'... because significant progress is being made.
They won't take Dek overnight, but its going at about the best pace it can.
The dual GBC/TRI assault is the first real challenge to the NC in its present form. I think its pretty interesting to see how things play out.
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Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.20 15:08:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on.
Wonder if you where listening in TS when Sir Molle mentioned MAX first target. Then you'll have a better idea. |

Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 15:10:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Butter Dog I think your assessment is overly harsh. It's not really 'dragging'... because significant progress is being made.
They won't take Dek overnight, but its going at about the best pace it can.
The dual GBC/TRI assault is the first real challenge to the NC in its present form. I think its pretty interesting to see how things play out.
Nah, north will just fold, like it always did.
btw, where's fred0 with his MAX failing stuff posts...
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Dazhbog
T C B
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:27:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch
Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening.
So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space.
If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's.
Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on.
Here's the thing. No matter what happens, it's always worth it if it produces a few bitter fanboys like yourself. |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:38:00 -
[158]
Mynas is now one of the higher-ups in the NC leadership! |

Tnilf
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:41:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that.
Is 20 BS more or less than 10 dreads? Because we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance. |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:42:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch
Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening.
So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space.
If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's.
Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on.
Correct me if I am wrong but if it is the way you describe it then each time the north goes thru one of these cycles they lose some more pvpers out of sheer boredom and attract some more bears no? Doesnt sound too healthy
- Gob
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NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:47:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Tnilf
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that.
Is 20 BS more or less than 10 dreads? Because we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance.
i hope you guys are all training amarr bs iv/let iv for posgeddons, it's the way to go. lock up the pos, start shooting, and afk a few hours. you can do 750 dps with best named megabeams and sentries! |

Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 16:52:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Tnilf we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance.
Which shows two things: a) how little the NC care; and b) how inactive their spies are. I can't imagine that working the other way round; the BOB spy would probably be FC and ensure they all died horribly.
Myn |

DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.08.20 17:00:00 -
[163]
I didn't 'get' the max campaign until five minutes ago. The stuff that is going on is the same exact stuff BoB was founded for, and has always done. I thought it was just a forum PR thing, or a way to get new members excited. Which didn't make sense, because BoB managed to set more killboard records while defending. Going on the offensive lasts maybe a month before the enemy starts to play conservative. Now that I thought about it, I feel shamefully stupid.  |

Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 17:03:00 -
[164]
Tbh, NC is not doing any worst then MC did fighting for their home. Ouch, that has to hurt. 
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.08.20 17:09:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 20/08/2008 17:09:39 the bitterness is strong in this thread, the last two pages or so. |

gaaksel
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 17:41:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch
Originally by: Tnilf we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance.
Which shows two things: a) how little the NC care; and b) how inactive their spies are. I can't imagine that working the other way round; the BOB spy would probably be FC and ensure they all died horribly.
Myn
Yes cause you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
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Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:12:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50
Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :)
And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back.
Myn |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:16:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50
Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :)
And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back.
Myn
I've been posting the times when the IRON POS come out of reinforced for a while now in the main NC staging system to help out. I don't know what you are talking about. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:20:00 -
[169]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/08/2008 18:22:32
update for the great CAOD unwashed:
MM/PURE/Stella/Hydra remnants are focusing on TRI at the moment it seems, and are not recalling to VFK for the moment. The hope is that by uber-blobbing TRI they will force an internal failcascade, and they will be back to a single front with the GBC.
RZR/IRON/MH are already in (or on their way) to VFK with no current intention to jump into i30 tonight.
And that seems to be that for this evening, unless something unexpected happens. Good luck against the uberblob TRI. Just ride it out until the GBC hit VFK 
edit: spelling as usual |

Mynera Nic'Atoch
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:21:00 -
[170]
Originally by: TWD I've been posting the times when the IRON POS come out of reinforced for a while now in the main NC staging system to help out. I don't know what you are talking about.
Damn. If I'd known, I'd have bought a GTC for my inactive character logged off there. Or then again...
BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets? |

Dazhbog
T C B
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:27:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch
BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets?
How bout you join one and develop a cunning plan to establish neutrality. |

Ev2Jita
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:33:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Ev2Jita on 20/08/2008 18:33:58
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch
BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets?
They already did that, when they buried mc. They reseted some wannabes elite, and the wannabes did show to fight only to insurance fraud at docking points.
You are right, because you know from your own experience, you failure wannabe.
edit : damn jita alt. |

Saltire
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:37:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/08/2008 18:22:32
update for the great CAOD unwashed:
MM/PURE/Stella/Hydra remnants are focusing on TRI at the moment it seems, and are not recalling to VFK for the moment. The hope is that by uber-blobbing TRI they will force an internal failcascade, and they will be back to a single front with the GBC.
RZR/IRON/MH are already in (or on their way) to VFK with no current intention to jump into i30 tonight.
And that seems to be that for this evening, unless something unexpected happens. Good luck against the uberblob TRI. Just ride it out until the GBC hit VFK 
edit: spelling as usual
usual NC tactics then, blob em till they quit... my advice would be to keep them chasing tri about for as long as possible, by the time they are done, BoB will be enjoying octoberfest in d7-zac |

Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.08.20 18:37:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50
Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :)
And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back.
Myn
You would know something about having been reset then joining the fight against those that did the resetting, amirite?  |

Aaron Mirrorsaver
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.08.20 19:54:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50
Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :)
And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back.
Myn
wow you're bitter AND clueless.
what we learn from you.
-bob hears the enemy team speak. (and no one else has had enemy team speak being whispered into the fc ear, especially not MC oh no.)
-iron( I - RUN ) and or the NC consists of players who do not care about the space they occupy or their infrastructure, and are also casual players who log on whenever.
-bob only goes in hot, when there is no likely hood of coming out cold.
-there is no risk attacking the north coalition at all.
-bob is not getting fights because they are only playing it safe
-there is no rotation
The nc hasnt tried to save the rest of their towers since being plastered in 2-k. This is the source of the non fights and the reason why no fights are forth coming.
The last time early August they tried to save a pos or rep it, a huge capital fight occured in which the bobbits warped into them on. After kicking there cap fleet in the balls and downing 3 motherships, the nc hasnt tried to save a pos since.
we'll see what happens if VFK gets sieged. Since it is logical to assume they wish to keep that system right? But what does your sense of logic tell you? They camp it all the time and "protect" it from bobbits getting a foothold, so i guess if the time comes and bob gets a foothold there, and they withdraw from there too, ill guess they didnt want there either. |

Salvar Ar'adim
State Property
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Posted - 2008.08.20 20:57:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50
Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos.
To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :)
And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back.
Myn
The bitterness is strong in this one  |

halp me
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.08.20 23:04:00 -
[177]
quick quick its a guy we know and can flame... to the alts!!! |

Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.21 08:48:00 -
[178]
Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems.
Should be interesting how this pans out with the NC having targets that can't run away to counter attack. This seems to have progressed beyond the MAX parameters, will be interesting to see if BoB defends these systems if big strike fleets come or what their plan will be when multiple systems start being hit.
I think BoB have avoided any large scale fights where they haven't held the field of battle or held significantly larger numbers, the presence of their own POS' represents immobile targets for the enemy.
Will be interesting how it plays out. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 08:51:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Veldya Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems.
THEY ARE SEIGING I30 YOU CLUELESS TROLL.
(caps = cool) |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:03:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Veldya Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems.
Should be interesting how this pans out with the NC having targets that can't run away to counter attack. This seems to have progressed beyond the MAX parameters, will be interesting to see if BoB defends these systems if big strike fleets come or what their plan will be when multiple systems start being hit.
I think BoB have avoided any large scale fights where they haven't held the field of battle or held significantly larger numbers, the presence of their own POS' represents immobile targets for the enemy.
Will be interesting how it plays out.
The NC managed to incap 1 one of the modules on one of our POS a week ago or so. I'm sure they'll be able to break that record in the near future. |

Rudi Storm
SGL
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:09:00 -
[181]
^^ 1 Module?
It's time to start packing guys! |

Red Moon
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:28:00 -
[182]
Edited by: Red Moon on 21/08/2008 09:28:26
Originally by: Veldya
1)Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems. 2)Should be interesting how this pans out with the NC having targets that can't run away to counter attack... 3)...if big strike fleets come or what their plan will be when multiple systems start being hit. 4)I think ...
I numbered some of your points just to make it easyer to reply, so here it goes:
1) BOB has been taking RA systems since before they left 2) They had targets for alot of time now but they can't be bothered 3) Hope dies last 4) You wish u did |

Jevnikar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:39:00 -
[183]
can mynas join us?
he sounds like a guy that MUST be in our corp chat!
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Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:44:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Veldya Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems.
THEY ARE SEIGING I30 YOU CLUELESS TROLL.
(caps = cool)
Settle down Bitter, time for you to put down your Tri pom poms and pick up the BoB pom poms.
Who cares what system they are sieging? They have started to take sov in a lot more systems which is not really in the MAX blueprint, the part of "we are not looking to take space" part at least.
I am sure they will be sieging a lot of systems while the NC is reinforcing Hyrdra space. When the NC turns it attention back on BoB having more stationary targets creates a different environment to before, it "hopefully" could lead to something more interesting either way. |

Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.21 09:46:00 -
[185]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Veldya
The NC managed to incap 1 one of the modules on one of our POS a week ago or so. I'm sure they'll be able to break that record in the near future.
How many systems did BoB hold back then vs how many do you hold up north now?
What I am getting at is the more space you grab the more you get locked down with the same strategic dilema a defender has in terms of which systems do you commit assets to.
It is bound to make things more interesting. |

Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:02:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Veldya on 21/08/2008 10:05:51
Originally by: Red Moon
I numbered some of your points just to make it easyer to reply, so here it goes:
1) BOB has been taking RA systems since before they left
I don't really care what systems BoB takes or who previously owned them. It is more about a change of direction within the scope of the MAX campaign I am referring to.
Quote:
2) They had targets for alot of time now but they can't be bothered
I assume they were playing defensive given the MAX campaign was built around inflicting damage. I think as time passes they will realize that MAX is a ruse for an intention to take and hold space, which would account for the lack of significant damage and the taking of sovereignty.
BoB has either changed direction or are pretty incompetent, I am just assuming the prior, god I hope so at least. NC will then have to look at BoB's force in the north as an invasionary force rather than a raiding force. That would require a fairly different strategy I would think.
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3) Hope dies last
I neither hope nor care about the entities or who holds what space, it is all pretty irrelevant to me. Between BoB, Tri and NC I think NC have a significantly higher ratio of nice people to moron ratio and for that reason alone I would like to see them crush BoB and Tri.
Whether they do or not largely depends on if they want all the space they currently hold or not.
Quote:
4) You wish u did
Such clever wit coming from someone who has to abbreviate a three letter word... not really. But keep trying, you might stumble onto something.  |

TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:07:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Veldya
... BoB has either changed direction or are pretty incompetent...
Thankfully due to the NC not putting strontium and/or fuel in half of the towers and not knowing how to use capitals our incompetence is masqueraded pretty well. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:29:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Veldya
Who cares what system they are sieging? They have started to take sov in a lot more systems which is not really in the MAX blueprint, the part of "we are not looking to take space" part at least.
lol
Sov takes a week to kick in. Check the map in a week and see where they are starting to gain sov.
Hint: it won't just be ex-RA systems.
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clagnuts
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.21 10:57:00 -
[189]
bitter pup you still posting on things that dont concern you, dude go get a life , stop making a tit of yourself, we all know you want bob to do what you and you failsurg allience couldnt do , but untill that day stop posting you little bitter tit |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:03:00 -
[190]
Originally by: clagnuts bitter pup you still posting on things that dont concern you, dude go get a life , stop making a tit of yourself, we all know you want bob to do what you and you failsurg allience couldnt do , but untill that day stop posting you little bitter tit
Thats a constructive post, well done.
In the meantime, my GBC alt in I30 enjoyed blowing up the tower you failed to stront properly last night :)
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:04:00 -
[191]
I feel trolled by Butter Dog. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 11:09:00 -
[192]
Originally by: TWD I feel trolled by Butter Dog.
You wish. |

Prefect Six
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:08:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: clagnuts bitter pup you still posting on things that dont concern you, dude go get a life , stop making a tit of yourself, we all know you want bob to do what you and you failsurg allience couldnt do , but untill that day stop posting you little bitter tit
Thats a constructive post, well done.
In the meantime, my GBC alt in I30 enjoyed blowing up the tower you failed to stront properly last night :)
You got Napalm's account? |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:09:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Prefect Six
You got Napalm's account?
nah, he still plays doesnt he? |

Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:24:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Butter Dog
In the meantime, my GBC alt ...
If I find out who that is, you will be podded, so maybe you should keep that down if you know what's good for you ffs.
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Amith Silvermoon
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:28:00 -
[196]
Willing to sell Butter dogs GBC alts name to the highest bidder. |

Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:32:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Willing to sell Butter dogs GBC alts name to the highest bidder.
5 isk because I like his posting style. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.21 15:50:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Butter Dog
In the meantime, my GBC alt ...
If I find out who that is, you will be podded, so maybe you should keep that down if you know what's good for you ffs.
You've always been a bit speshal to me, too.
We should make babies together. They'd be quite the CAOD horror.
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Prefect Six
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.21 16:00:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Prefect Six
You got Napalm's account?
nah, he still plays doesnt he?
nfc, I just felt like trolling him.  |

Aralt Aran
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Posted - 2008.08.21 16:08:00 -
[200]
NC isn`t the target. |

MynLiu NicAtoch
Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.21 16:19:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: clagnuts bitter pup you still posting on things that dont concern you, dude go get a life , stop making a tit of yourself, we all know you want bob to do what you and you failsurg allience couldnt do , but untill that day stop posting you little bitter tit
Thats a constructive post, well done.
In the meantime, my GBC alt in I30 enjoyed blowing up the tower you failed to stront properly last night :)
ZOMG you were in that fleet too? I'll need to talk to Amith so I can wave next time we are both there .. chatting on BOB TS about it probably wouldn't be smart.
Myn |

Nocturnal Avenger
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.21 16:47:00 -
[202]
Heh - the golem BoB just shot proves that RA simply had too much isk :) |

Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.21 16:49:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Heh - the golem BoB just shot proves that RA simply had too much isk :)
Or being dumb getting blown. |

Red Moon
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.25 13:03:00 -
[204]
Just replying here bcouse there are a couple posters in this thread that look preeety stupid right about now :D
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Djana Libra
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.26 11:57:00 -
[205]
 <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve!
</SIG> |

Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.26 12:05:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Red Moon Just replying here bcouse there are a couple posters in this thread that look preeety stupid right about now :D
This time it wasn't me \o/ -clp
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Salvar Ar'adim
State Property
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Posted - 2008.08.26 14:40:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Red Moon Just replying here bcouse there are a couple posters in this thread that look preeety stupid right about now :D
This time it wasn't me \o/
The first step to getting better is realizing you have a problem ______
Salvar Ar'Adim [RLLUP]State Property
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Get Chribba to publically denounce Veldspar, then we can start discussing winning EVE... 
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