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Hungo Minmatar The Unholy Allance	Posted - 2008.08.20 14:50:00 - [151] I cant belive no one has ever sadi this to you eddz, no one cares what youy think
Mynera Nic'Atoch Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.20 14:52:00 - [152] Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening. So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space. If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's. Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on.
Tempest Kane Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.20 14:53:00 - [153] in before the shuttle firesale
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.20 14:56:00 - [154] I think your assessment is overly harsh. It's not really 'dragging'... because significant progress is being made. They won't take Dek overnight, but its going at about the best pace it can. The dual GBC/TRI assault is the first real challenge to the NC in its present form. I think its pretty interesting to see how things play out.
Pamangkin Notneir Industry LLC	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:08:00 - [155] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on. Wonder if you where listening in TS when Sir Molle mentioned MAX first target. Then you'll have a better idea.
Nez Sewers Black Toilet.	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:10:00 - [156] Originally by: Butter Dog I think your assessment is overly harsh. It's not really 'dragging'... because significant progress is being made. They won't take Dek overnight, but its going at about the best pace it can. The dual GBC/TRI assault is the first real challenge to the NC in its present form. I think its pretty interesting to see how things play out. Nah, north will just fold, like it always did. btw, where's fred0 with his MAX failing stuff posts...
Dazhbog T C B	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:27:00 - [157] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening. So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space. If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's. Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on. Here's the thing. No matter what happens, it's always worth it if it produces a few bitter fanboys like yourself.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:38:00 - [158] Mynas is now one of the higher-ups in the NC leadership!
Tnilf Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:41:00 - [159] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. Is 20 BS more or less than 10 dreads? Because we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:42:00 - [160] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Originally by: Butter Dog Since GBC hit I30 alst night, NC have issued a recall to VFK due to arrive this evening. So maybe things will start to get more interesting. I guess it depends how bold the NC get as the GBC dismantle their space. If they continue to rotate in VFK, then you can't really blame BoB for not attempting to force a fight. Hitting their Sov 3 station systems would normally do it. If it doesn't, thats NC's failing, and not BoB's. Given IRON's strategy last year when MC took Deklein, I puzzled why anyone thinks the average NC member will bother logging on when the blob turns up. They'll just turtle, play their empire alts or other games, and retake it when BOB move on or bore themselves to death. A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. BOB only fight fights they are confident they will win (or not lose anything that matters). More of that attitude from The North would kill BOB's interest in them. The original max target was the war between RSF and Smashkill, making it a three way - this was a poor second and is dragging on and on. Correct me if I am wrong but if it is the way you describe it then each time the north goes thru one of these cycles they lose some more pvpers out of sheer boredom and attract some more bears no? Doesnt sound too healthy - Gob

NerftheSmurf GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:47:00 - [161] Originally by: Tnilf Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch A lot of pos have to die before THAT will happen. The NC just have to put up enough resistance to keep the GBC from taking out POS with ten dreads to make the whole thing too dull for words. Not sure many people can be bothered doing even that. Is 20 BS more or less than 10 dreads? Because we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance. i hope you guys are all training amarr bs iv/let iv for posgeddons, it's the way to go. lock up the pos, start shooting, and afk a few hours. you can do 750 dps with best named megabeams and sentries!
Mynera Nic'Atoch Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:52:00 - [162] Originally by: Tnilf we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance. Which shows two things: a) how little the NC care; and b) how inactive their spies are. I can't imagine that working the other way round; the BOB spy would probably be FC and ensure they all died horribly. Myn
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:00:00 - [163] I didn't 'get' the max campaign until five minutes ago. The stuff that is going on is the same exact stuff BoB was founded for, and has always done. I thought it was just a forum PR thing, or a way to get new members excited. Which didn't make sense, because BoB managed to set more killboard records while defending. Going on the offensive lasts maybe a month before the enemy starts to play conservative. Now that I thought about it, I feel shamefully stupid.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:03:00 - [164] Tbh, NC is not doing any worst then MC did fighting for their home. Ouch, that has to hurt.
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:09:00 - [165] Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 20/08/2008 17:09:39 the bitterness is strong in this thread, the last two pages or so.
gaaksel Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:41:00 - [166] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Originally by: Tnilf we have taken out several towers w/ 20 BS. It sucks balls and takes about 3 hours. But even w/ that small of a force we got very little resistance. Which shows two things: a) how little the NC care; and b) how inactive their spies are. I can't imagine that working the other way round; the BOB spy would probably be FC and ensure they all died horribly. Myn Yes cause you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game.
Mynera Nic'Atoch Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:12:00 - [167] Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50 Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game. Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :) And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back. Myn
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:16:00 - [168] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50 Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game. Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :) And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back. Myn I've been posting the times when the IRON POS come out of reinforced for a while now in the main NC staging system to help out. I don't know what you are talking about.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:20:00 - [169] Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/08/2008 18:22:32 update for the great CAOD unwashed: MM/PURE/Stella/Hydra remnants are focusing on TRI at the moment it seems, and are not recalling to VFK for the moment. The hope is that by uber-blobbing TRI they will force an internal failcascade, and they will be back to a single front with the GBC. RZR/IRON/MH are already in (or on their way) to VFK with no current intention to jump into i30 tonight. And that seems to be that for this evening, unless something unexpected happens. Good luck against the uberblob TRI. Just ride it out until the GBC hit VFK edit: spelling as usual
Mynera Nic'Atoch Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:21:00 - [170] Originally by: TWD I've been posting the times when the IRON POS come out of reinforced for a while now in the main NC staging system to help out. I don't know what you are talking about. Damn. If I'd known, I'd have bought a GTC for my inactive character logged off there. Or then again... BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets?

Dazhbog T C B	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:27:00 - [171] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets? How bout you join one and develop a cunning plan to establish neutrality.
Ev2Jita	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:33:00 - [172] Edited by: Ev2Jita on 20/08/2008 18:33:58 Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch BTW, have you considered reseting all the wannabes and see how many of them log on for the great fights against you? What's the betting they don't, and only log on so they can coast in your fleets? They already did that, when they buried mc. They reseted some wannabes elite, and the wannabes did show to fight only to insurance fraud at docking points. You are right, because you know from your own experience, you failure wannabe. edit : damn jita alt.
Saltire Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:37:00 - [173] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/08/2008 18:22:32 update for the great CAOD unwashed: MM/PURE/Stella/Hydra remnants are focusing on TRI at the moment it seems, and are not recalling to VFK for the moment. The hope is that by uber-blobbing TRI they will force an internal failcascade, and they will be back to a single front with the GBC. RZR/IRON/MH are already in (or on their way) to VFK with no current intention to jump into i30 tonight. And that seems to be that for this evening, unless something unexpected happens. Good luck against the uberblob TRI. Just ride it out until the GBC hit VFK edit: spelling as usual usual NC tactics then, blob em till they quit... my advice would be to keep them chasing tri about for as long as possible, by the time they are done, BoB will be enjoying octoberfest in d7-zac
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.08.20 18:37:00 - [174] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50 Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game. Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :) And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back. Myn You would know something about having been reset then joining the fight against those that did the resetting, amirite?
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.20 19:54:00 - [175] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50 Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game. Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :) And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back. Myn wow you're bitter AND clueless. what we learn from you. -bob hears the enemy team speak. (and no one else has had enemy team speak being whispered into the fc ear, especially not MC oh no.) -iron( I - RUN ) and or the NC consists of players who do not care about the space they occupy or their infrastructure, and are also casual players who log on whenever. -bob only goes in hot, when there is no likely hood of coming out cold. -there is no risk attacking the north coalition at all. -bob is not getting fights because they are only playing it safe -there is no rotation The nc hasnt tried to save the rest of their towers since being plastered in 2-k. This is the source of the non fights and the reason why no fights are forth coming. The last time early August they tried to save a pos or rep it, a huge capital fight occured in which the bobbits warped into them on. After kicking there cap fleet in the balls and downing 3 motherships, the nc hasnt tried to save a pos since. we'll see what happens if VFK gets sieged. Since it is logical to assume they wish to keep that system right? But what does your sense of logic tell you? They camp it all the time and "protect" it from bobbits getting a foothold, so i guess if the time comes and bob gets a foothold there, and they withdraw from there too, ill guess they didnt want there either.
Salvar Ar'adim State Property	Posted - 2008.08.20 20:57:00 - [176] Originally by: Mynera Nic'Atoch Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:17:01 Edited by: Mynera Nic''Atoch on 20/08/2008 18:12:50 Originally by: gaaksel .. you need a massive spy network to check your eve mails for pos attacks and then IN ADDITION you need 1 (in words ONE) cov ops pilot to check out the enemies layout shooting said pos. To drive it to the extreme you might even send another cov ops pilot to your enemies staging system to see if the enemy doesn't have 3 gazzillion titans sitting in jump range , this logistical nightmare can ofc only be done by bob and only bob and for sure can not be handled by any other alliance in this game. Most of the POS being shot are RA ... and if they notice, they certainly don't tell anyone. The rest of them belong to IRON .. and if they notice, they rarely tell anyone. One of them even belonged to me .. I don't think I logged onto eve that weekend. So yes .. you are describing a scenario where the part time players you are shooting don't care enough :) And yes, the NC almost never bothers scouting BOB's assembly systems. Or target systems for that matter. If the DID they certainly wouldn't have lost the fleet in EC- and many others too. You persist with this fantasy that you have gathered together the largest active alliance in EVE, hundreds of their wannabees, and the largest capital fleet too to fight someone who cares. Most of them don't. Let us know when you decide to do something with some risk attached ... I'll maybe log on and watch. Till then, keep on playing on .. shooting POS, most of which don't even shoot back. Myn The bitterness is strong in this one
halp me THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.08.20 23:04:00 - [177] quick quick its a guy we know and can flame... to the alts!!!
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.08.21 08:48:00 - [178] Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems. Should be interesting how this pans out with the NC having targets that can't run away to counter attack. This seems to have progressed beyond the MAX parameters, will be interesting to see if BoB defends these systems if big strike fleets come or what their plan will be when multiple systems start being hit. I think BoB have avoided any large scale fights where they haven't held the field of battle or held significantly larger numbers, the presence of their own POS' represents immobile targets for the enemy. Will be interesting how it plays out.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.21 08:51:00 - [179] Originally by: Veldya Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems. THEY ARE SEIGING I30 YOU CLUELESS TROLL. (caps = cool)
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.21 09:03:00 - [180] Originally by: Veldya Looks like Plan B has gone into effect with BoB taking some vacated RA systems. Should be interesting how this pans out with the NC having targets that can't run away to counter attack. This seems to have progressed beyond the MAX parameters, will be interesting to see if BoB defends these systems if big strike fleets come or what their plan will be when multiple systems start being hit. I think BoB have avoided any large scale fights where they haven't held the field of battle or held significantly larger numbers, the presence of their own POS' represents immobile targets for the enemy. Will be interesting how it plays out. The NC managed to incap 1 one of the modules on one of our POS a week ago or so. I'm sure they'll be able to break that record in the near future.



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