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Aldrad Caldari Point of No Return	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:19:00 - [1] I was disturbed earlier today to learn of the following events. The corporation 'Grey Templars' hired this corp to war dec some corp who was hassling them. Wise Guys, of the Exquisite Malevolence, upon receiving the money, decided to break the deal and instead threatened their client 'Grey Templars'. Fortunately, the corporation that was initially hassling Grey Templars retracted their war dec after being war decced themselves by Wise Guys. Now since the contract had in a way been completed, and Wise Guys had already received their cash, why should Wise Guys turn around and demand more isk while threatening to war dec Grey Templars? Apparently they were praised mercs, now it seems they're a corp of back-stabbers. I recommend other corporations seeking to hire mercenaries avoid Wise Guys, as they'll just backstab you once they've got some money out of you.
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:27:00 - [2] I think that's a very shallow description of a chain events and you are practically saying nothing at all. Could we have a deeper ananlysis as to what really happened between these two parties? I'd like to hear the other side of the story as well... _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... never mind the portrait>
Nexus Kinnon SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:30:00 - [3] Who the hell are "Wise Guys"? Why would you hire a merc corp that you've never heard of on the forums or that has otherwise been vouched for?
Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:36:00 - [4] MY guess this is an alt of the corp thats now being threatened with dec'ing that gives a highly skewed viewpoint.
MyroMiner	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:40:00 - [5] More Details will be provided shortly
Crazy Kalibanov Gallente Grey Templars	Posted - 2008.07.20 21:42:00 - [6] Let me respond with details. We saw them on Eve forum. Wise Guys are part of the Exquisite Malevolence alliance. I contacted them about a contract. They responded by eve mail with an unambiguous quote for the contract: 2008.07.20 17:02 50 mill upfront for war-dec A list of there most annoying players or all in this case 50 mill paid wen you see we have war-deced them for logisics Only war-dec fees tobe paid in future if they decide to fight If they decide to hide and you want them griefed War-dec fees plus a 100 mill aweek. TERROZ EXM We agreed and paid the 50M and then 50M when the dec was issued. Shortly after we reached terms with the corp that was war dec'ing us. I contacted Wise Guys and advised them of this and asked them to retract their war dec. In response, they said they wanted 100M to retract or they would dec us. EXM will commence war on your corp if the 100mill demanded for retaction of war by TERROZ HUN 20/07/2008 is not reached. You have payed for services and we kill regardless of whoevers hand bleeds. Look forward to ... I had a subsequent convo with Terroz Hun. He confirmed they would not retract unless paid an additional 100M
Majuan Shuo Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium	Posted - 2008.07.20 22:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Crazy Kalibanov Edited by: Crazy Kalibanov on 20/07/2008 22:11:37 Edited by: Crazy Kalibanov on 20/07/2008 22:03:12 Let me respond with details. We saw them on Eve forum. Wise Guys are part of the Exquisite Malevolence alliance. I contacted them about a contract. They responded by eve mail with an unambiguous quote for the contract: 2008.07.20 17:02 50 mill upfront for war-dec A list of there most annoying players or all in this case 50 mill paid wen you see we have war-deced them for logisics Only war-dec fees tobe paid in future if they decide to fight If they decide to hide and you want them griefed War-dec fees plus a 100 mill aweek. TERROZ EXM We agreed and paid the 50M and then 50M when the dec was issued. Shortly after (within hours) we reached terms with the corp that was war dec'ing us. I contacted Wise Guys and advised them of this and asked them to retract their war dec. In response, they said they wanted 100M to retract or they would dec us. EXM will commence war on your corp if the 100mill demanded for retaction of war by TERROZ HUN 20/07/2008 is not reached. You have payed for services and we kill regardless of whoevers hand bleeds. Look forward to ... I had a subsequent convo with Terroz Hun. He confirmed they would not retract unless paid an additional 100M Crazy Kalibanov > could you confirm what's going on. are you going to retract that war dec or no? TERROZ HUN > no we are not retracting unless paid 100 mill this has been made clear its cheap really you should pay quickly Crazy Kalibanov > that was not our deal TERROZ HUN > we feel we deserve this as a bonus for a quick response to your peoblems Crazy Kalibanov > that was not our deal and you got a quick 50M for 5 minutes work TERROZ HUN > 50 mill thats peanuts we wanted the pvp Crazy Kalibanov > if 50m is peanuts so is 100m Crazy Kalibanov > you are aware that word will get out that you don't honor contracts and people will stop hiring you TERROZ HUN > i know we dont want to feel were extorting you TERROZ HUN > just being fair Crazy Kalibanov > this is not fair no farther investigation is required let them burn in eternal hellfire!
Feng Schui Minmatar Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.07.20 22:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Crazy Kalibanov 2008.07.20 17:02 50 mill upfront for war-dec A list of there most annoying players or all in this case 50 mill paid wen you see we have war-deced them for logisics Only war-dec fees tobe paid in future if they decide to fight If they decide to hide and you want them griefed War-dec fees plus a 100 mill aweek. TERROZ EXM And you actually hired them? Project:Gank Pilgrim Guide
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.07.20 22:47:00 - [9] Edited by: sesanti on 20/07/2008 22:47:35 Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Crazy Kalibanov Edited by: Crazy Kalibanov on 20/07/2008 22:11:37 Edited by: Crazy Kalibanov on 20/07/2008 22:03:12 Let me respond with details. We saw them on Eve forum. Wise Guys are part of the Exquisite Malevolence alliance. I contacted them about a contract. They responded by eve mail with an unambiguous quote for the contract: 2008.07.20 17:02 50 mill upfront for war-dec A list of there most annoying players or all in this case 50 mill paid wen you see we have war-deced them for logisics Only war-dec fees tobe paid in future if they decide to fight If they decide to hide and you want them griefed War-dec fees plus a 100 mill aweek. TERROZ EXM We agreed and paid the 50M and then 50M when the dec was issued. Shortly after (within hours) we reached terms with the corp that was war dec'ing us. I contacted Wise Guys and advised them of this and asked them to retract their war dec. In response, they said they wanted 100M to retract or they would dec us. EXM will commence war on your corp if the 100mill demanded for retaction of war by TERROZ HUN 20/07/2008 is not reached. You have payed for services and we kill regardless of whoevers hand bleeds. Look forward to ... I had a subsequent convo with Terroz Hun. He confirmed they would not retract unless paid an additional 100M Crazy Kalibanov > could you confirm what's going on. are you going to retract that war dec or no? TERROZ HUN > no we are not retracting unless paid 100 mill this has been made clear its cheap really you should pay quickly Crazy Kalibanov > that was not our deal TERROZ HUN > we feel we deserve this as a bonus for a quick response to your peoblems Crazy Kalibanov > that was not our deal and you got a quick 50M for 5 minutes work TERROZ HUN > 50 mill thats peanuts we wanted the pvp Crazy Kalibanov > if 50m is peanuts so is 100m Crazy Kalibanov > you are aware that word will get out that you don't honor contracts and people will stop hiring you TERROZ HUN > i know we dont want to feel were extorting you TERROZ HUN > just being fair Crazy Kalibanov > this is not fair no farther investigation is required let them burn in eternal hellfire! LOL That's lame (them, not you). Edit: Didn't know that word was censored. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... never mind the portrait>
El'Tar Caldari Monkey Madness.	Posted - 2008.07.20 22:54:00 - [10] dnt wory that corp is noobs livin in syndicate cos they cnt cut it in good space cos theyr no good they went psycho when tash wanted kzv ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM

Jones Maloy Minmatar Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.21 02:22:00 - [11] i swear i was in a corp with TERROZ HUN. maybe it was a very similarly named guy. DIGGER1, seriuscrow, and draco mandragon ring a bell? -----------
Temp Boi D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.21 05:58:00 - [12] no one cares
PinkyPie	Posted - 2008.07.21 08:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Temp Boi no one cares well you cared to post
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.21 08:46:00 - [14] Originally by: PinkyPie Originally by: Temp Boi no one cares well you cared to post i cared to make you all know that i don't care 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001
Woodwraith Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.07.21 08:48:00 - [15] they wanted a fight, so they dec'd your enemies for you, now you want it retracted, they havent gotten a fight yet, either 100 million to ease their pain and go dec someone else, or theyre just gonna dec you so they have something to do. seems pretty straight forward to me
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.21 08:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Woodwraith they wanted a fight, so they dec'd your enemies for you, now you want it retracted, they havent gotten a fight yet, either 100 million to ease their pain and go dec someone else, or theyre just gonna dec you so they have something to do. seems pretty straight forward to me or just pay another merc corp to dec them 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001
Mika Meroko Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc	Posted - 2008.07.21 09:26:00 - [17] dont pay them, get an Legit merc corp to dec them... =P real mercs quite frankly would have 1000 times more professionalism than this.... Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
Rajere No Trademark The OSS	Posted - 2008.07.21 11:19:00 - [18] So when did Wise Guys become a merc corp? grats on scamming these guys out of isk though, should have asked for more NOTR How to Fail at Eve
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.21 11:23:00 - [19] knowing WIS... id say pay em ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:54:00 - [20] Congrats, you probably earned your corp a wardec from these guys by posting this.

boneszz	Posted - 2008.07.21 13:36:00 - [21] Thats too funny. Sounds like a good business to get into. Get paid off to kill someone. Then Blackmail the corp who just hired you into paying you off for a few more hundred mil. Sounds like bad business to me, not too sure if I would recommend a large customer base with these guys, but thats my two ISK worth.
Crazy Kalibanov Gallente Grey Templars	Posted - 2008.07.21 18:46:00 - [22] The latest development is that Exquisite Malevolence (Wise Guys) has now war dec'd Grey Templars
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.21 19:09:00 - [23] You MUST DIE!!!! for asking them to retract the wardec.
Inoi Troriak	Posted - 2008.07.21 19:17:00 - [24] I recommend other corporations seeking to hire mercenaries avoid Wise Guys, as they'll just backstab you once they've got some money out of you. You are talking out of your back passage son you are going to die. That is all
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.21 21:20:00 - [25] good fun :P ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Jean Dael Caldari Grey Templars	Posted - 2008.07.22 00:21:00 - [26] Edited by: Jean Dael on 22/07/2008 00:22:25 "Any coward can fight a battle when he's sure of winning, but give us the man who has pluck to fight when he's sure of losing. That's our way, and there are many victories worse than a defeat." Quoted from the Corporation Description of Wise Guys. Now they've War Dec'd a mainly industrial corp, that can probably scrounge up 4 or so battle ships, for no good reason. By the terms of their Description, that makes them cowards, as their sure to win any battle against Grey Templars
Nexus Kinnon SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.22 00:29:00 - [27] Yeah, that's right Wise Guys. Philosophy owned. Jean just opened a whole new level of whup-ass onto your sorry selves.
Metaldog Bloodstone The Bloodstone Project Miners United	Posted - 2008.07.22 00:56:00 - [28] Quote: 2008.07.20 17:02 50 mill upfront for war-dec A list of there most annoying players or all in this case 50 mill paid wen you see we have war-deced them for logisics Only war-dec fees tobe paid in future if they decide to fight If they decide to hide and you want them griefed War-dec fees plus a 100 mill aweek. TERROZ EXM i would have rejected their offer as soon as I saw their terrible grammar and spelling.
jimmyjam Gallente Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.07.22 04:02:00 - [29] I look forward to bringing the sanchezing to your system boys!!
GOUSGOUNIS THEOS Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:42:00 - [30] Originally by: jimmyjam I look forward to bringing the sanchezing to your system boys!! LOL i like when people they war dec noob or industrial corps and they think they are kick ass pvpers. LOL i wish those come and pay some low sec visit but they dodn't But this is a punishment for hiring merc company and not try to do it yourself. M34N Killboard



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