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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:25:00 -
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Only reason to have fighting would be for Drunken Monkey Knife Fights.
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:42:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Why are we commenting on someones imagination?
Having recently undergone the torture of reading all the ambulation threads I could find in the archive, I'd say at least 97% of all Ambulation discussion falls in the "someone else's imagination" field. The info actually on the table from the Devs would make a 2 page post, at most.
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:48:00 -
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Guys, having to build an entire FPS mode from scratch (and i mean the scratch that would exist even after ambulation is completed) would really be such a monumental task as to almost necessitate a 'hold' on development of Eve proper. Unless CCP just copy & paste the code from their new MMOG. Plus the bugfixing and balance that they still haven't got right in the main game even today - CCP would be working on THREE mmog's effectively. And all to produce something that's optional. Can you imagine the frustration of people who log in and only want to enjoy the spaceship Eve they know and love, only to be told their station's being invaded by FPS jockies and they have to undock? Or their clone's been killed? Or "You cannot take this starbase without entering into FPS mode"
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Radix Salvilines
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:49:00 -
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anyone who red the empyrean age novel knows the guy named The Broker - he entity that can die and die and still live. Better technology i think. Not a whole pod is needed to make and send a snapshot of your brain but an implant.
AvA combat is possible u just need to make some plot adjustments :)
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Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.07.24 12:26:00 -
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Let's take a step back folks.
When I wrote that post, I entitled it "IF EVE were an First-Person-Shooter", not "Ambulation will make an EVE FPS possible"! 
What I was trying to imagine is not how Ambulation will allow FPS combat in station, but just was simply saying that IF CCP were ever to make an FPS based on the EVE setting, that it would probably look something like Gears of War. The dark, hardcore, gruesome feel to it makes for a nice translation in the EVE lore. 
As a matter of fact, it well known that Ambulation WILL NOT be about combat and that the station interior were re-designed by RL architect to ensure that they did have an FPS feel to them.
I'm restating this simply because I don't want the article to be taken out of context.
Please keep up the conversation though. It's highly entertaining and informative. Lots of interesting ideas floating around.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Trojanman190
But but but... this is a game about spaceships...
lies it's about the market and trading and other stuff.
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Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.07.27 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Trojanman190
But but but... this is a game about spaceships...
lies it's about the market and trading and other stuff.
and space ships yes, but ccp have always wanted it to be a game about space not spaceships.
And all this time, I thought that it was about Carebears in Space! Wow, the things you learn these days! 
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.27 04:27:00 -
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Quote:
..AvA combat...
No, just no. This goes against all the EVE mythos about podpilots so hard that it's stupid even to try and explain why this wont work, both technically, and according to the Prime Fiction.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.27 04:30:00 -
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CCP Have said on a number of occasions that they want to keep combat in space, and as such there'll be no "first person shooter" in Eve, or any form of combat in stations.
Personally, I think it's a good move and fits well with the prime fiction of the game given the fact that most stations are noted in prime fiction as having heavy security control and masses of weapon screening systems.
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Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.08.11 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: Treenara Mazouk on 11/08/2008 05:30:02
Originally by: Treenara Mazouk
Let's take a step back folks.
When I wrote that post, I entitled it "IF EVE were an First-Person-Shooter", not "Ambulation will make an EVE FPS possible"!
What I was trying to imagine is not how Ambulation will allow FPS combat in station, but just was simply saying that IF CCP were ever to make an FPS based on the EVE setting, that it would probably look something like Gears of War. The dark, hardcore, gruesome feel to it makes for a nice translation in the EVE lore.
As a matter of fact, it well known that Ambulation WILL NOT be about combat and that the station interior were re-designed by RL architect to ensure that they did have an FPS feel to them.
I'm restating this simply because I don't want the article to be taken out of context. [...]
As I mentioned above, I was, and still am, fully aware that CCP never intended for combat in the stations when Ambulation comes out.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.11 05:30:00 -
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I dunno... I remember reading something a while back... a dev said there would be no combat in ambulation... then he added "... at first" so I guess we'll just see
Though it might not have been a dev... it might have been nobody 
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Artemis Rose
Odd End of the Universe
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Posted - 2008.08.11 05:36:00 -
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In all honesty, I highly doubt a good pod pilot would take time away from learning how to pilot their ships to focus on mundane things, such as hand to hand combat.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.11 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose
In all honesty, I highly doubt a good pod pilot would take time away from learning how to pilot their ships to focus on mundane things, such as hand to hand combat.
Then why they have soldier and special ops in character creation? They look like they standing and fighting
*Swish*
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xStormwingx
The Aftermath.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: xStormwingx on 11/08/2008 06:20:20
The only AvA EVE will EVER NEED IS:
Originally by: Yatta I
BARFIGHTS PLEASE!
I WANT BAR FIGHTS!
Otherwise I find it completely unnecessary. Sure it'd be cool to be on the ground, in a station as your allies shell the POS from outside, explosions all around you as you dodge the shrapnel and avoid parts of the station that are being blown off all while blasting away with an assault rifle....but that's not for pod pilots. Just make sending in Marines (the items) help you take over stations faster.
but again, all we really need are bar fights thank you very much!
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Clytamnestra
Spartan Fleet Systems
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.11 07:15:00 -
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A lot of people here don't seem to realize just how excruciatingly hard it is to make a proper video game.
Games like Gears of War or Too Human, these games take years to develop and hundreds of people. Forbes.com speculated that Gears probably costed about $60 million.
And even tons of money, the best talent in the industry and years of hard work won't guarantee the game is any good.
These aren't things done in an afterthought, or just to spice up EVE. We should be damned happy we have a half decent space-ship game, and not ask for bar fights and shooter minigames as well, just so we can get our fill of playing all types of games.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.11 07:59:00 -
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AvA would only be good if it was well covered by the backstory a bit, and if it was Over-The-Shoulder 3rd Person, mouse aimed perspective. NOT point and click, F1 - F8 combat. Also make it VR based so the whole "mind transfer without a pod" is well covered.
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Praleon
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.11 16:13:00 -
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Star Trek Online is gonna have combat in "ambulation" ... even going down to planets and such...
EVE really better watch out for that game... the star-trek fanbase is huge, and, actually, probably a decent slice of the current eve customer base.
The gloves might have to come off on Ambulation to keep EVE from being the Sci-Fi Everquest of MMO history.
Praleon
CEO
Judgement Klan Corporation
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Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Praleon
Star Trek Online is gonna have combat in "ambulation" ... even going down to planets and such...
EVE really better watch out for that game... the star-trek fanbase is huge, and, actually, probably a decent slice of the current eve customer base.
The gloves might have to come off on Ambulation to keep EVE from being the Sci-Fi Everquest of MMO history.
To be honest that would REALLY surprise me. Somehow I just do think STO is going to cut it!
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:54:00 -
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I just wanna be able to ***** slap the guy that just owned me 
No, really... I'm not a huge fan of ambulation although I am willing to give it a chance. I will try it out, but the real fun in EVE for me came from that it was so far different than any other MMO that I had previously looked at. I refuse to be a wizard or elf (never was a huge fantasy fan, even with a sister named after a LOTR character) and EVE is exactly the kind of game I can sit and waste years playing... like the last two I've spent in this game
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Zyck
KDS
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:47:00 -
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If there will ever be AvA combat, it would have to be capsuleers in uber-hightech powered armor suits of d00m. That might be somewhat realistic. Sending your 5,000 mercenaries to their deaths with a flak jacket and laser rifle while you stomp your way across the battlefield in a personal mini-tank suit.
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Kransthow
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:01:00 -
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If any combat were to take place in station it would have to be some kind of squad based rts style game, no running into the battlefield no scoping nubs with your T2 Rail rifle pulling off extreme headshotz with your madskillz
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.16 03:51:00 -
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i'd like the option to chase after amarr FW dockers with a 60 person mob.
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Eran Laude
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:34:00 -
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It would be interesting to have boarding parties attacking stations, even pirates leading a raid on low or hi sec stations having to battle through other players and NPC soldiers and DED operatives.
Ultimately, for the time being, ambulation should be kept as a social tool rather than a combat one. Don't get me wrong, I would personally love to see it expand into AvA, but if it does happen, it won't occur for a while anyway, so they should focus on building ambulation into a great social tool before knitting it together with the main space game as a combat and political tool.
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Artemis Rose
Odd End of the Universe
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Then why they have soldier and special ops in character creation? They look like they standing and fighting
*Swish*
Owie.
Well, you know how you buy a product and it looks amazing on the box, and you open it and you are underwhelmed by the product.
Just imagine seeing the coolest cyber-punk solider on your pod. Crack it open, and get a "human" that hasn't left the pod in 5 years, curled up and covered in goo.
Besides, all player corpses are 200kg. I can't imagine ever wanting to see people that big fight.
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Artemis Rose
In all honesty, I highly doubt a good pod pilot would take time away from learning how to pilot their ships to focus on mundane things, such as hand to hand combat.
Then why they have soldier and special ops in character creation? They look like they standing and fighting
*Swish*
Dude I'm a soldier and I don't go around doing hand to hand combat, but i'll definitely pimp slap a mfer...
Oh wait, aren't you some sorta soldier? 
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Ragnar Darkstar
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:36:00 -
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I don't want AvA combat, but please, please allow my avatar to have a gun strapped to his hip Malcom Reynolds style.
Plllleeeeaaaasssssseeeee!!!!
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:59:00 -
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Of course there will be AvA in Ambulation...
Expect to see me challenge your pirate ass to a game of... Go!
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:43:00 -
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Check out Face Of Mankind, its an mmo in an eve type space thingy except you live in the stations your whole life.
FPS/rpg with a cold, harsh atmosphere like eve, eve could be great if something like that was taped onto it.
Or something simple like BF2142 but less crap and laggy.
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iloni atoriandra
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:28:00 -
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I want to be an Amarr Mage :(
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Paramite Pies
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:39:00 -
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This thread leads me to believe that in the future of EVE we'll have an option to play in space or down planet side... Mmm. Awesome.
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