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Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:06:00 - [1] I invested somewhere in the region of 2.4 Billion Isk for a full set of snake implants - the effect of which may be reduced by 50% in a months' time. Should these changes go through, will CCP consider reimbursal upon removal of these implants? Same goes for ships rigged with polycarbon engine housings. I would really appreciate, but frankly do not expect, in the slightest, any kind of official response to this question.
Ringo Jeicha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:07:00 - [2] Yeah i would like all my FOTM setups reimbursed right now!!!!! --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss
Riga Mortiss	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:08:00 - [3] No you can't have your money back... but if you're gonna quit over it then can I have your stuff?
VoiceInTheDesert Gallente Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:08:00 - [4] No....just like I didn't get any money back when any of the ships I fly got nerfed.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:08:00 - [5] MMORPG's change all the time, its part of the charm/curse. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:09:00 - [6] Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:09:00 - [7] Wish I had 2.4 bil to blow on ANYTHING tbh.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:10:00 - [8] Nom nom nom nom ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Zeba Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. If I fly 10 times faster then the person trying to kill me, but he is doing 1 meter/sec and im doing 10 m/s - Im not going to outrun his tackle/damage modules which have remained the same. SKUNK
SaorAlba 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:11:00 - [10] Well you were dumm enough not to forsee the swing of the nerfbat of hell. Since you obviously not qualify for a game as Eve, Your stuff to my hangar?
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Zeba Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. Frankly I don't want them anymore. It's like buying a beer and then just as your about to drink it they swap it for strawberry flavoured milk and say oops we actually didn't sell you a beer we sold you a strawberry flavoured milk. I don't want strawberry flavoured milk.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zeba Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. If I fly 10 times faster then the person trying to kill me, but he is doing 1 meter/sec and im doing 10 m/s - Im not going to outrun his tackle/damage modules which have remained the same. SKUNK Way to inject a totally irrelevant comparison in there skunk. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
TheG2 Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:14:00 - [13] These whine threads are fantastic, I'm only sad that I'm at work and can't see the aftermath on the servers now.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:16:00 - [14] Things change, deal. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:17:00 - [15] Originally by: TheG2 These whine threads are fantastic, I'm only sad that I'm at work and can't see the aftermath on the servers now. The server is mostly unaware, judging by the public channels. But you can't buy better entertainment than the forums, today. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Riga Mortiss No you can't have your money back... but if you're gonna quit over it then can I have your stuff? Oh I'm staying.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:22:00 - [17] I trained encryption skills and then they were cheaper. - DesuSigs
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zeba Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. If I fly 10 times faster then the person trying to kill me, but he is doing 1 meter/sec and im doing 10 m/s - Im not going to outrun his tackle/damage modules which have remained the same. SKUNK Way to inject a totally irrelevant comparison in there skunk. Not really - rather then comparing the ship to ship speed ration - you should be considering the speed-weapon range - in that the weapon range remains the same. SKUNK
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:24:00 - [19] Edited by: NeoTheo on 25/07/2008 17:24:43 Originally by: Sid Zero I invested somewhere in the region of 2.4 Billion Isk for a full set of snake implants - the effect of which may be reduced by 50% in a months' time. Should these changes go through, will CCP consider reimbursal upon removal of these implants? Same goes for ships rigged with polycarbon engine housings. I would really appreciate, but frankly do not expect, in the slightest, any kind of official response to this question. no, its the cost of having a dynamic market. For what its worth, i am out of pocket to, thats the way it is. and its a good thing. no, no and no. Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zeba Even though your getting a nerf to your stats your relative speed boost will still be about the same. Meaning that whatever you were outrunning before you can still outrun after the patch. If I fly 10 times faster then the person trying to kill me, but he is doing 1 meter/sec and im doing 10 m/s - Im not going to outrun his tackle/damage modules which have remained the same. SKUNK Way to inject a totally irrelevant comparison in there skunk. Not really - rather then comparing the ship to ship speed ration - you should be considering the speed-weapon range - in that the weapon range remains the same. SKUNK Look at it this way. Before the implant nerf you get about 25~30km/s on your inty or even more in some cases. Afterwards you should still be well in the mid to upper 10's and with the hit to every other ship class you will enjoy the same relative percentage of speed over your targets as before. Net result is that the op will still get the overwhelming speed advantage he paid for. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Wendat Huron Things change, deal. I have no qualms about dealing with change - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I INVESTED IN NANO **ING SHIPS! I'm not upset about having to deal with change, bring it on, might even be fun. I'm upset about paying 2.4 billion Isk** for a product, and then having to settle for something that I would not have bought in the first place.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:29:00 - [22] Don't fly it if you can't afford to loose it. -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Sid Zero Originally by: Wendat Huron Things change, deal. I have no qualms about dealing with change - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I INVESTED IN NANO **ING SHIPS! I'm not upset about having to deal with change, bring it on, might even be fun. I'm upset about paying 2.4 billion Isk** for a product, and then having to settle for something that I would not have bought in the first place. Look on the bright side: maybe you'll get podded before the changes actually take effect. Then you'll have received full value for money. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Haradgrim Don't fly it if you can't afford to loose it. quoting this for truth...
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Sid Zero Originally by: Wendat Huron Things change, deal. I have no qualms about dealing with change - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I INVESTED IN NANO **ING SHIPS! I'm not upset about having to deal with change, bring it on, might even be fun. I'm upset about paying 2.4 billion Isk for a product, and then having to settle for something that I would not have bought in the first place. And you buy things knowing full and well that their stats may change at some point in the future. If I sold an Arazu a month ago, should CCP reimburse me for the profit I would have made if I sold the ship in a week? Your question and mine are one in the same. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)**
Qanael Radlari Caldari Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Sid Zero Originally by: Wendat Huron Things change, deal. I have no qualms about dealing with change - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I INVESTED IN NANO **ING SHIPS! I'm not upset about having to deal with change, bring it on, might even be fun. I'm upset about paying 2.4 billion Isk** for a product, and then having to settle for something that I would not have bought in the first place. Titans got nerfed. Do you think any of the alliances that own titans got reimbursed their hundreds of billions?
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Sid Zero Originally by: Wendat Huron Things change, deal. I have no qualms about dealing with change - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I INVESTED IN NANO **ING SHIPS! I'm not upset about having to deal with change, bring it on, might even be fun. I'm upset about paying 2.4 billion Isk** for a product, and then having to settle for something that I would not have bought in the first place. thats just the cookie crumbling when you play the min/maxing game. happened to me in a bunch o games; was still fun using the items whilst they are uber tho. Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Malcanis Look on the bright side: maybe you'll get podded before the changes actually take effect. Then you'll have received full value for money. Well, I'll give it a week or so to see which way things are going. Then I'll probably go in battel for honor in universe must be hold and go out in a blaze of reduced-structure-hp-polycarbenginehousing fire... I wonder what would be the best ship to do this in
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Sid Zero Originally by: Malcanis Look on the bright side: maybe you'll get podded before the changes actually take effect. Then you'll have received full value for money. Well, I'll give it a week or so to see which way things are going. Then I'll probably go in battel for honor in universe must be hold and go out in a blaze of reduced-structure-hp-polycarbenginehousing fire... I wonder what would be the best ship to do this in Drake, for maximum irony. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Sid Zero	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Malcanis Drake, for maximum irony. I am in posession of a drake fitted with 3x polys. I'm thinking it'll either be that one, or my Navy Caracal fitted with 3x polys, and a Gistum B-type MWD. 6000m/s I kid you not. Fleet Stabber could also be awesome.

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