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goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.26 20:07:00 - [31] Edited by: goodby4u on 26/07/2008 20:09:23 Edited by: goodby4u on 26/07/2008 20:07:40 Originally by: Rawr Cristina Some people seem to think that they can't be smart without also being an ******, I guess. It's like they have too much pride in themselves to consider lesser people* even as people for not understanding something that makes perfect sense in their head. I'm a bit dyslexic too and when someone is explaining something to me, even something really simple, I'll get confused easily and won't be able to picture it unless they explain it in a specific way Even when reading I find myself going back entire paragraphs because at some point my brain switched off and stopped making sense of any of it. Yes some smarter individuals can find it annoying at times, but it's not like us dumbasses are having fun either. I dont have a problem with people that try to learn and have trouble, I do however have a problem with the huge amounts of idiots that just want to sit on their ass all day and watch tv. You must understand the difference. Oh and im curious, what sentence structure do you find easiest to read?
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.26 20:18:00 - [32] Edited by: P''uck on 26/07/2008 20:18:16 Originally by: Rawr Cristina It's like they have too much pride in themselves I think that's the main problem, with smart and dumb people alike. Everything is relative, there is always somebody smarter. Going around, deliberately sharing your "wisdom" without any humility makes you just look annoying, ESPECIALLY when you are being dumb. Balance self esteem and humility and it should be fine, more or less. At least thats what I like in people. (edit: and boobies)
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.26 20:25:00 - [33] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/07/2008 20:27:18 Originally by: goodby4u Oh and im curious, what sentence structure do you find easiest to read? There are only 2 ways to deal with dumb people: exploit them or avoid them. If you've been told you're dumb by a lot of persons and someone else is explaining things to you for free or he's being nice while at it, he's either dumb himself or he's acting with expedience in mind. Motherships
Kye Kenshin Martial.	Posted - 2008.07.26 21:31:00 - [34] The people who discriminate in this community I think have a problem with how the real world works. In the real world you don't have to be super intelligent to achieve success. In fact I would say social skills, connections and attractiveness are far more important to success in a capitalist world then pure intelligence. This annoys some people and to them EVE is how the world should be, a place where they can feel superior and put down the Paris Hiltons of our internet spaceship paradise. To me personally the best way to fight ignorance is education. My little brother suffers from dyslexia and other learning problems, he constantly asks me questions about things, which would sound dumb to you and can get very annoying. But I answer his questions because he can then make progress and day by day the silly questions lessen. Also all human life has value, when you take that value away terrible things like the holocaust happen. --------------------------------------
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.26 23:35:00 - [35] Edited by: goodby4u on 26/07/2008 23:36:11 Originally by: Kye Kenshin The people who discriminate in this community I think have a problem with how the real world works. In the real world you don't have to be super intelligent to achieve success. In fact I would say social skills, connections and attractiveness are far more important to success in a capitalist world then pure intelligence. This annoys some people and to them EVE is how the world should be, a place where they can feel superior and put down the Paris Hiltons of our internet spaceship paradise. To me personally the best way to fight ignorance is education. My little brother suffers from dyslexia and other learning problems, he constantly asks me questions about things, which would sound dumb to you and can get very annoying. But I answer his questions because he can then make progress and day by day the silly questions lessen. Also all human life has value, when you take that value away terrible things like the holocaust happen. It depends entirely on what jobs your talking about, in reality you are correct, the most social of us usually succeed the most... But if you want to be a scientist or something that takes intelligence the business men would love a genius with basic social skills far more then an idiot with great social skills. Like I said before, I dont mind stupid people or people with a mental illness that ATTEMPT to learn, its the idiots that dont care about learning or research that get on my nerves, especially when it comes to voting as their votes count just as much as mine. And I also believe all human life has value, but you must also understand some people are just worth more then others(ie a person that wants to do good in his community is worth more then a serial killer to me)... How you determine one's value is based on his character and his willingness to further himself.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.07.27 10:51:00 - [36] Edited by: Xen Gin on 27/07/2008 10:52:08 Edited by: Xen Gin on 27/07/2008 10:51:26 Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 26/07/2008 23:36:11 Originally by: Kye Kenshin The people who discriminate in this community I think have a problem with how the real world works. In the real world you don't have to be super intelligent to achieve success. In fact I would say social skills, connections and attractiveness are far more important to success in a capitalist world then pure intelligence. This annoys some people and to them EVE is how the world should be, a place where they can feel superior and put down the Paris Hiltons of our internet spaceship paradise. To me personally the best way to fight ignorance is education. My little brother suffers from dyslexia and other learning problems, he constantly asks me questions about things, which would sound dumb to you and can get very annoying. But I answer his questions because he can then make progress and day by day the silly questions lessen. Also all human life has value, when you take that value away terrible things like the holocaust happen. It depends entirely on what jobs your talking about, in reality you are correct, the most social of us usually succeed the most... But if you want to be a scientist or something that takes intelligence the business men would love a genius with basic social skills far more then an idiot with great social skills. Like I said before, I dont mind stupid people or people with a mental illness that ATTEMPT to learn, its the idiots that dont care about learning or research that get on my nerves, especially when it comes to voting as their votes count just as much as mine. And I also believe all human life has value, but you must also understand some people are just worth more then others(ie a person that wants to do good in his community is worth more then a serial killer to me)... How you determine one's value is based on his character and his willingness to further himself. I can see that like me, you dislike those who don't attempt to better themselves. My one true belief is that the purpose of life is to better itself. He who does not try to better himself is a poor man.
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.27 15:18:00 - [37] Edited by: Machimpy on 27/07/2008 15:22:02 Quote: No-one - I reiterate here - NO-ONE is valuable by virtue of being born. Value is something you accomplish, through actions and effort. If someone is not willing to put in any effort, they have no value. Quote: I can see that like me, you dislike those who don't attempt to better themselves. My one true belief is that the purpose of life is to better itself. He who does not try to better himself is a poor man. Ultimately all allowed equal rights on this one from birth Im affraid. Try threatening an infant to walking or else failing to be considered of human value...??
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2008.07.27 15:45:00 - [38] I find intelligent people to be just as capable of being annoying as stupid people.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 16:15:00 - [39] Originally by: Digital Solaris I find intelligent people to be just as capable of being annoying as stupid people. Maybe you're antisocial. Motherships
Remata Lakira Terran Coalition The Threshold	Posted - 2008.07.27 16:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Machimpy Ultimately all allowed equal rights on this one from birth Im affraid. Try threatening an infant to walking or else failing to be considered of human value...?? That isn't exactly a fair analogy. Every infant needs time to learn to walk. Some take longer than others. The correct analogy would be: What if your kid never even tried to walk because it was too busy watching some insects fornicate (that's a metaphor for big brother, btw).

Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:08:00 - [41] Originally by: Digital Solaris I find intelligent people to be just as capable of being annoying as stupid people. This. In fact, they can easily be more annoying, as a stupid person will eventually go away, whereas mr intelligence will stay and beat the dead horse to make sure the corpse is at perfect ground level, so you won't trip when you walk over it And yes, sometimes I do this as well, although I try not to. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:47:00 - [42] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/07/2008 17:47:21 Funny how nobody think they are stupid themselfs. Its always the other guy. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:25:00 - [43] Edited by: Xen Gin on 27/07/2008 18:26:26 Originally by: Machimpy Edited by: Machimpy on 27/07/2008 15:22:02 Quote: No-one - I reiterate here - NO-ONE is valuable by virtue of being born. Value is something you accomplish, through actions and effort. If someone is not willing to put in any effort, they have no value. Quote: I can see that like me, you dislike those who don't attempt to better themselves. My one true belief is that the purpose of life is to better itself. He who does not try to better himself is a poor man. Ultimately all allowed equal rights on this one from birth Im affraid. Try threatening an infant to walking or else failing to be considered of human value...?? Not even close my friend or how Americans might say, "A swing and a miss"?
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:36:00 - [44] the "value" of people is all in your imagination. whether you rate others and yourself by intelligence, strength, number of people ****ed or something else is irrelevant. you're all equally worthless. but it's nice to think you're worth something, keeps the /wrists thoughts from entering the conscious mind. very handy that.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:37:00 - [45] Originally by: YouGotRipped Maybe you're antisocial. I am, I loathe people on general basis. I have no attention span at all and if I find someone to be boring, I'll tell them so, that they are a bore so instead of wasting time and energy for both of us, I am going to find something to entertain myself because I am bored. But as irony has it, I can't get enough of people that are capable of holding a conversation. Easier to find that online though.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:41:00 - [46] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/07/2008 18:42:42 Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/07/2008 18:41:50 Originally by: Keta Min the "value" of people is all in your imagination. whether you rate others and yourself by intelligence, strength, number of people ****ed or something else is irrelevant. you're all equally worthless. but it's nice to think you're worth something, keeps the /wrists thoughts from entering the conscious mind. very handy that. What do you mean we're all equally worthless? How did you choose your husband? Ini mini miny mo? Motherships
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Keta Min the "value" of people is all in your imagination. whether you rate others and yourself by intelligence, strength, number of people ****ed or something else is irrelevant. you're all equally worthless. but it's nice to think you're worth something, keeps the /wrists thoughts from entering the conscious mind. very handy that. I can counter that by saying that on our planet we are the most important species: we could destroy the world or save the world, and thats damn important. But if your saying that the human race would die off eventually, maybe, but there is a possibility of us learning string theory and making our universe everlasting because of it. Now, virtue, the wish to further one's self etc is extremely important in life, whether you believe we are all worthless or not. Oh and lastly, you believe everybody is worthless, but in reality your just creating a rational to your being antisocial and morally inempt, I recommend you reassess your life.
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:07:00 - [48] Quote: Originally by: Keta Minthe "value" of people is all in your imagination. whether you rate others and yourself by intelligence, strength, number of people ****ed or something else is irrelevant. you're all equally worthless. but it'snice to think you're worth something, keeps the /wrists thoughts from entering the conscious mind. very handy that. I can counter that by saying that on our planet we are the most important species: we could destroy the world or save the world, and thats damn important. But if your saying that the human race would die off eventually, maybe, but there is a possibility of us learning string theory and making our universe everlasting because of it. Now, virtue, the wish to further one's self etc is extremely important in life, whether you believe we are all worthless or not. Oh and lastly, you believe everybody is worthless, but in reality your just creating a rational to your being antisocial and morally inempt, I recommend you reassess your life. Admins! Please lock this thread, it went from a harmless exchange of ideas on human values to a full on guru battle.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:12:00 - [49] Not yet!!! I'm curious about the basis of the statement that we're all worthless. Keta Min, what have you been reading lately? Motherships
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:20:00 - [50] reading? nothing, i just thought that jab at egos i posted would be quite funny. and in reply to the most advanced species able to blabla.. - and?

goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:23:00 - [51] Originally by: Keta Min reading? nothing, i just thought that jab at egos i posted would be quite funny. and in reply to the most advanced species able to blabla.. - and? And you obviously are either a troll or have moral issues, I will leave you to your thoughts. Btw YOUR GURU IS NO MATCH FOR MY GURU!
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:23:00 - [52] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/07/2008 19:26:21 Does anyone have any knowledge of Zen in these forums? What you people regard as the ego/self is in fact an error of perception. Motherships
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:26:00 - [53] Originally by: YouGotRipped Does anyone have any knowledge on Zen in these forums? What you people regard as the ego/self is in fact an error of perception. But if thats the case, you cannot inform me of this because your just an error in my perception. "In the beginning, the was just darkness, and me...LET THERE BE LIGHT!"-some bomb in some movie.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:39:00 - [54] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/07/2008 19:46:32 Originally by: goodby4u But if thats the case, you cannot inform me of this because your just an error in my perception. I'm not saying the world is an illusion / not existing, whatever value / meaning you attribute to it is entirely dependending on your personality / stupidity / unsaturation. Zen aimes at achieving a differentiation between the act of perception and the object that is perceived, in other words it will separate awareness from the self. "When we do not identify with, or get absorbed in our thoughts and ego, we live in pure awareness. These are lucid, real experiences for the people who manage to live in them." Google for "pure awareness" if you want to know more. Motherships
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:44:00 - [55] Originally by: goodby4u And you obviously are either a troll or have moral issues, I will leave you to your thoughts. Btw YOUR GURU IS NO MATCH FOR MY GURU! the point is you can entertain yourself thinking up all kinds of values, moral or not, but it's nice to keep in mind that they're not really objective, as there is no such thing. ego ************ is not actually required to enjoy living, without it you can appreciate some things for what they are instead of superimposing your fantasies of how you'd like it to be.
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:52:00 - [56] I think the horse is dead gentlemen.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:52:00 - [57] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/07/2008 19:55:56 Originally by: Machimpy I think the horse is dead gentlemen. Charge at 200V. Clear! Note down time of death please... 19:55 Eve Time. Motherships
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:59:00 - [58] no, some hairs are still moving. might be the wind but can never be too sure.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: goodby4u And you obviously are either a troll or have moral issues, I will leave you to your thoughts. Btw YOUR GURU IS NO MATCH FOR MY GURU! the point is you can entertain yourself thinking up all kinds of values, moral or not, but it's nice to keep in mind that they're not really objective, as there is no such thing. ego ************ is not actually required to enjoy living, without it you can appreciate some things for what they are instead of superimposing your fantasies of how you'd like it to be. It depends entirely on what you believe, I for instance believe in an afterlife, so thus my actions matter. Ego? I said nothing of ego, I said self worth is enhanced through furthering oneself, this is true not through bragging about it but a further understanding and thus you can teach others about it, help others etc... Like I said, its about furthering yourself. Lastly, believing people are worthless is one hell of a line to cross, one which several dictators and other horrible people crossed... So like I said, you need to reassess your life.
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2008.07.27 20:07:00 - [60] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: goodby4u And you obviously are either a troll or have moral issues, I will leave you to your thoughts. Btw YOUR GURU IS NO MATCH FOR MY GURU! the point is you can entertain yourself thinking up all kinds of values, moral or not, but it's nice to keep in mind that they're not really objective, as there is no such thing. ego ************ is not actually required to enjoy living, without it you can appreciate some things for what they are instead of superimposing your fantasies of how you'd like it to be. It depends entirely on what you believe, I for instance believe in an afterlife, so thus my actions matter. Ego? I said nothing of ego, I said self worth is enhanced through furthering oneself, this is true not through bragging about it but a further understanding and thus you can teach others about it, help others etc... Like I said, its about furthering yourself. Lastly, believing people are worthless is one hell of a line to cross, one which several dictators and other horrible people crossed... So like I said, you need to reassess your life. thanks for the tip, so i just need to believe. right on!



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