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Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:02:00 - [31] Edited by: Kalintos Tyl on 28/07/2008 08:08:03 Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Drake passive shield tank is way too powerfull 750dps tanked forever *AND* 400 dps given. Note the change there. Or. Not supported. Seems perfectly balanced to me. i forgot that noobs dont know about heat
destinationZERO	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:07:00 - [32] nurf it. and the myrmidon (again) while youre at it, it can passive shield tank even better than the drake. you know what, just make all ships in eve the same, so that fkin noobs can play. op : die
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:08:00 - [33] ow i made wrong staempent with forever :D
Bad Borris 20th Legion Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.07.28 11:04:00 - [34] Nobody who flys a decently fitted drake will give a crap if u nerf passive tanking or not.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.28 11:26:00 - [35] Drakes are useless without at least MWD and disruptor and one or two BCS. How big of a passive tank does that leave? Nothing overpowered, imho. ------------------------------------------
Kebabski coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.28 11:53:00 - [36] Just lolling at all the bears shitting their pants coz they might have their ratting boat nerfed 'Peachy Lil Babe'
Dana Serenity Caldari Guerillaz	Posted - 2008.07.28 11:56:00 - [37] Not supported! Yes the drake has an amazing tank but it does nothing else.. Its not a damage dealer (400dps... yeah with all level V skills, drones and implants and gang bonuses but only with heavy assault missiles... gl getting that into range of your target without the mwd cause you fitted your passive tank or aint got the capacitor to run it) leave the drake alone... its fine!!!
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:12:00 - [38] Edited by: MirrorGod on 28/07/2008 15:12:59 Passive Drakes are horrible. Very strong and without cap, one of the best tanks in the game. They contribute nothing to the fleet, usually not so much as a point, and my destroyer can muster more DPS. They're obnoxious and I cringe when I see them. But I'm not supporting this thread. I'm not supporting it because it's valid. Because like a nano-pilot dishing out 4 bil for a snake set, the drake pays for his tank. It sacrifices it's mids, that would go to tackle and a speed mod, and lows that would go to damage mod. Then it drops over 40 mil into it's rig slots. When it finally gets locked down, it dies, becuse it has little in the way of escape if it doesn't bring ECM drones. No reason to whine about it, now lets hope the good karma comes around and one drake pilot looks at the sitution that any race of BS -can- be a nanokiller with the right skills, and that there's no reason to whine because when you finally do get that vaga popped and his pod, he's out 7 bil and you scoop 200mil+ worth of loot from that wreck. STOP WHINING, POST LESS! Save Small Gang Warfare
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Kebabski Just lolling at all the bears shitting their pants coz they might have their ratting boat nerfed Hey, I use my Drake as a PvP ship. There's not a _long_ list of good Caldari solo ships, but the Drake's on there. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
procurement specialist	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:36:00 - [40] passive shield tank a domi. it does pretty damn well too. all those low slots. Better than a raven which i find funny. no support. The price is extreme to tank that much in pvp.
General Spaz Minmatar Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:07:00 - [41] Ok, ill bite... firstly the OP is an obvious troll. The Drake is fine, like all Passive shield tankers, it has no speed, DPS, or tackle. ALSO, 750 DPS sustainable with no cap? I beg to see your fit. If using active hardners... maybe, but passive hardners don't cut it, unless you're talking officer or pithi. Ever neuted a drake and shut it's resists off? They die... fast. OP, you obviously don't know how to play Minmatar. Name a Drake fitting, and i'll show you a Cane that can smoke it 1v1.
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Firestar Drive Yards	Posted - 2008.07.28 18:37:00 - [42] Yes a full passive tanked drake has a defense of 750+ hp per second, and an effective HP of 83,000+... It also has a dps of approximately 200... not 400... 200. With a full rack of heavy launcher 2s (not HALs as they need too much PG and not enough range for you to ever hit anything). So 7 t2 launchers filled with the tech 1 ammo of your choice, no damage mods, maxed skills - achieves approximately 200 dps. This is so overpowered. /facepalm /wrists
Marcus Gideon Gallente Excessive Force	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:05:00 - [43] Just my 0.02 ISK here... When I started looking into a Myrm for missions, Battleclinic's highest rated build was a passive shield tank too. I considered it... for about 1.5 seconds, before I changed my mind and closed the window. There is NO WAY you can call a build like those "useful". When every single Mid, Low, and Rig slot is filled with shield buffs. Sure... your shields are awesome, and you have plenty of power for whatever guns you fit. BUT... Warp Scrambler + Webber + Nos/Neut = You sitting in place while I find out how long before your uber leet shields finally do fail. --- Don't take my ranting personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word. "Players don't want Variety. They want THE BEST"
General Spaz Minmatar Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.07.28 21:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama Yes a full passive tanked drake has a defense of 750+ hp per second, and an effective HP of 83,000+... I realize that agree the Drake is not overpowered, but I must ask... what damagetype is that 750+ against? Also, how are you fitting that? T2? Faction? In gang with maxxed Vulture pilot? I've fit plenty of Drakes and that seems a little much for anything more than a fairy-tale full passive fit, I can easily see that with active hardeners.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.04 03:44:00 - [45] "perma-sustains 750dps while doing 600dps and has the ability to stay in range to deal that dps " Originally by: Lt Angus but since you bring it up, 1 dmg mod, 3 SPR II, 3 large extender IIs, 2 invuln 1 photon 7 hml II and 3 purger rigs tanks 750 while doing 400dps 1 small neut kills you, you have no speed so you can't stay in range, and you're dead without support. I'd call that a useless sitting duck of a ship. Black Hand.
Dav Varan	Posted - 2008.08.04 12:23:00 - [46] Not supported Drake has already recived a nerf in the tank department and has the weakest firepower of all the BC. Personally I think the Drake deserves a firepower increase that it did not revieve last time it was nerfed , 8th launcher slot gets my vote.
Cyberus Caldari Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2008.08.04 12:50:00 - [47] Only ppl who do not fly drakes complaine about them, simply because they dont know how it is to fly drake. Yes it awesome tanker if it fitted for killing NPC's in belts. You complaine about ships what you was after in belts probebly in your nano vaga and was not able to kill it. Now i ask you something: If it so powerfull ship was it able to kill you? I guess i know the answere tbh... [/url]
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.08.04 15:24:00 - [48] Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Drake passive shield tank is way too powerfull 750dps tanked forever and 400 dps given. If only it got incresed dps and give 1 more medium slot and some cpu, i would call it best bs in game. Doomsday proof, recharges so fast. Sollution is to narf passive recharging of shield. Remove 2 low slots add power grid and +1 med slot in order to effectivly fit shield booster, cap booster and heavy assault missiles. Myrmidon can passive-tank better than the drake. And do more damage. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Grainjer	Posted - 2008.08.04 15:43:00 - [49] Do not agree. Drake currently well balanced.
Matrixcvd Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.04 15:45:00 - [50] why god wont people just shut up. drake is fine, all its got is tank its useless otherwise... they die just fine, train up your freakin skillz and they go boom. usuck c/d?
darkmancer	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:03:00 - [51] Yes the drakes tank is far to good. We demand the shield resist bonus be turn into a ROF bonus this instant!!! - Yarr --------------------------------- There's a simple solution to every problem. It is always invariably wrong
Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:31:00 - [52] Drake is fine as is, as others have mentioned.

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