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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:35:00 -
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Rapier before 3.0k/s with 2 ODII's and some CPRs without nav rigs
Now its 1.4k/s
HACs are dead, they take forever to get to speed, will not turn, and will have an extremely hard time to get back to gates.
Small Gang PVP is dead
We can no longer bump ships off stations
Diversity is dead for gangs
Station hugging is king for failures
Blob is king for failure naptrain alliances
This is not about adjusting the top 1% of speed ships. You have screwed up everything that made small gang PVP tactical and fun. Ability to go 50-70 jumps for a fight is over with. ALl you will see are vagas and falcons in 0.0 small gang PVP, no need for anthing else because it will just die trying to get to speed.
And now missiles might need to be looked at? Why do you people continue to screw with everything just to find out the ramifications of the primary screw up and then thoughtlessly screw with moar stuff? Get rid of these changes, put a 15k/s cap on speed and your done. Work on SOV, Lag, 0.0. its pretty much Game Over if these changes go live.
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Exlegion
This change is allowing Caldari-specialized characters to actually have better PVP options. I think it's a good change. Caldari ships will actually fair better in PVP.
I'm looking forward to the changes.
oh holy sweet jesus, you know nothing of what you are talking about. Caldari are quite fine for PVP, you can't fight everythign when you are tanking for guiristas you turd
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al
Wasted SP is awesome SP.
I never really liked nanos (to fly) although I had the sp to do so. Of course I also have the sp to fly pretty much everything else (lolnerfproof baby).
Things that are now mildly useless:
Recon 5, have 3 chars with it but only 1 has gallente cruiser 5, 2 have caldari cruiser 5 + maxed ecm so it's not a total loss (til the next nerf)
Minmatar cruiser 5, 3 chars with it
Claymore + all required skills for maxing skirmish gang boners (cs 5, skirmish,link spec 5, warfare link 5, cyber 5) - will still be good sitting at a safespot I suppose, but it'll just die horribly elsewhere.
Around 15m combined in navigation, athough does include some jump skills, but I don't fly capitals!
Gallente bs 5 on 3 chars Sad
On the flip side, things that are now mildly (or even more) awesome:
1 char with 7.5m in missiles/caldari bs 5 that hit every ship in the game without snakes + claymore, don't even need precisions.
3 chars with amarr bs 5, pulse spec 4 (next nerf should move these up to the first section)
2 chars with T2 sentries
And the best thing of all: no characters with minmatar bs 5.
quoted for the truth, and an awesome sig by the way!
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Parduhn
Player ingenuity will always find and exploit game mechanics that the dev's didn't intend.
So some ppl will be upset - it's always the case with any nerf of any kind - someone's pet interest will feel the pain.
But it's the dev's responsibility to maintain a kind of balance whereby nothing becomes contrary to the overall stability of the game.
Just accept it's not personal and it'll be someone else's turn next time.
some people? 109 pages and 33 pages against it aren't some people, pretty much all your PVPers in EVE are against the nerf. And again your wrong, nobody wants to see anyone else nerfed.
It does get personall when that idiot Noz goes, "What the dev's giveth, the dev's taketh away" : Translation, "whatever you do and hold of value we can just rip it outta the game and make it worthless" that makes it personal.
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Roqeze
Just a quick question:
Stasis Webification Batteries are still showing as -75% on Sisi. Given that the speed of all ships have been reduced, as have the effectiveness of all other webifiers, should these not follow suit?
oh god, i still haven't even thought of this yet.
SO there goes the last bit of fun nano gangs can have and thats engaging at POS's. Without speed tanks you will not be able to gank ships outside pos shields or engage outside POS shields without snipe fits....
the game is over
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Matrixcvd on 30/07/2008 16:29:07
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: Matrixcvd
the game is over
CCP left nanofits in the game for too long and too many people got used to losing a ship once a month or less. This nerf will bring them back into line. There are other ships/fittings/tactics/fc's/ways to have fun.
right, lets face the facts. You will never be able to beat a bubble camp without moar people, and its sick to think thats exactly what everyone who supports this nerf wants. You wont be able to engage at POSes, you wont be able to roam thru jump bridged space and you will take longer to go the same distance with the only benifit of being a slower target for the blobs to catch
sounds like a lot of great tactics just waiting to be invented...
the people that are crying for this nerf are the worst PVPers and videogame players in the game. Anything that aids the blob aids them and thats just disgusting that CCP would bend over backward for garbage players
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hitachi Morimoto
It's not the end of the EVE world, people. It's a dynamic change. You influence it and they listen, so why are you being big babies about it?
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So for 2 years we had to listen to garbage players complain whine and ***** because they can't seem to wait for the sp/isk and train themselves to fight roaming gangs, the game has to change? And now when THE MAJORITY OF PILOTS OPPOSE THE CHANGE, thats called being a baby?
This is not a dynamic change, or tweek. This is poiting PVP and the game at risk by destroying the complexity of combat for the sake of allowing stupid people the right to blob effectively.
The Devs should have just put concord in 0.0. it would have been alot easier. Why not just remove implants/poly's instead of nerfing them to stupidity? Why did 1 obsolute module, the AFTERBURNER, need to cause the excitinction of 10 or 12 modules? All because people can't learn? right... thats dynamic... dynamically stupid.
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 18:40:00 -
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scrap all the changes, put a 15km/s cap on max velocity with MWD and thats it, nothing else needs to be touched, AF with scram is nice one but will just get eaten alive anyway
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: oilio
Useful feedback gets buried in noise. .
nothing useful can come from a ridiculous dev poast, god awful ret3rded changes on sisi and more useless dev dribble on the forums...
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