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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:15:00 -
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Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!
This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves. If a ship dies the exact cost of the ship and its modules (recorded in the database as transactions) will be put back into the EVE economy. When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed.
But wouldn't the game stagnate?
Nope! Instead of selling PLEX on the market or redeeming it for game time PLEX will be the only way of injecting new isk into the economy. Right now PLEX is used for game time or sold for isk and redeemed as game time. I want PLEX to become a donation to the EVE economy.
Every PLEX would add 1 billion isk to the max amount of isk in circulation for the entire economy. This means there can be no inflation because nobody is going to spend real money on PLEX if they can still make money.
Since players have to pay to benefit the entire economy, there will be no inflation. Inflation would be detrimental to their real world wallets.
Taedrin wrote:Welcome back masternerdguy.
Unfortunately, i will have to disagree with you - you are essentially asking to turn PLEX into full fledged RMT - e.g. golden ammo which caused the Summer of Rage in the first place.
EVE's economy is fine as it is - people are just complaining about high PLEX prices.
Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1082
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:17:00 -
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So... can we assume that you're back up to your old tricks of poasting random bullshit to Eve-O?
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Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:19:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:So... can we assume that you're back up to your old tricks of poasting random bullshit to Eve-O?
-Liang
Confirming. The stream of inane drivel has recommenced. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
389
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:19:00 -
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Welcome back masternerdguy.
Unfortunately, i will have to disagree with you - you are essentially asking to turn PLEX into full fledged RMT - e.g. golden ammo which caused the Summer of Rage in the first place.
EVE's economy is fine as it is - people are just complaining about high PLEX prices. In reality, game-play related items have relatively low prices. Now, converting drone poop to bounties WILL cause significant amounts of inflation - but that's because we will convert a mineral faucet into an ISK faucet. Less minerals and more ISK means that minerals become more expensive, which means more expensive T1. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
433
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:20:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:So... you're poasting random bullshit to Eve-O.
-Liang
Fixed.
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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
95
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:20:00 -
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hahahahaaa |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
23
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:21:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Welcome back masternerdguy.
Unfortunately, i will have to disagree with you - you are essentially asking to turn PLEX into full fledged RMT - e.g. golden ammo which caused the Summer of Rage in the first place.
EVE's economy is fine as it is - people are just complaining about high PLEX prices.
Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
389
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:23:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Taedrin wrote:Welcome back masternerdguy.
Unfortunately, i will have to disagree with you - you are essentially asking to turn PLEX into full fledged RMT - e.g. golden ammo which caused the Summer of Rage in the first place.
EVE's economy is fine as it is - people are just complaining about high PLEX prices. Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players.
hrrrrmmm... this is a strange suggestion then. I think this will suffer the tragedy of the commons - people aren't interested in donating money to the server for the good of the economy. They only want to maximize their OWN profit, not other people's profit. |
Grumpy Owly
340
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:23:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves. If a ship dies the exact cost of the ship and its modules (recorded in the database as transactions) will be put back into the EVE economy. When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed.
But wouldn't the game stagnate?
Nope! Instead of selling PLEX on the market or redeeming it for game time PLEX will be the only way of injecting new isk into the economy. Right now PLEX is used for game time or sold for isk and redeemed as game time. I want PLEX to become a donation to the EVE economy.
Every PLEX would add 1 billion isk to the max amount of isk in circulation for the entire economy. This means there can be no inflation because nobody is going to spend real money on PLEX if they can still make money.
Since players have to pay to benefit the entire economy, there will be no inflation. Inflation would be detrimental to their real world wallets.
*facepalm*
where do I start with this idiocy?
I'll keep it short and sweet I think.
What your proposing would completely remove the free market principles of EvE. One of the games major features.
Plex is generally accepted as inflationary neutral due to it being a transferance of ISK. If anything it has a sink associated with its escrow charges. It's also recognised as a current product not suffereing from money velocity which explains it's high price.
Having a Plex actually add isk into the pot is by definition inlfation. Especially in quantaties of a billion at a time.
Plex is more expensive than subscription, so the sensible use of spending "real money" on plex is for ISK or other game features realiant on them. It simply isnt the most economical way to spend RL money for Game time.
Bounty Hunting for CSM 7
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
83
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:23:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves.
Old ISK leaves all the time in the form of players (bittervets & others ) unsubscibing. Ocaasionally it does come back in resubs but I guess not as often as it leaves permenantely |
Doomhowler II Augustus
Incestuous Cult of Paranoid Swamp People
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:24:00 -
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your proposed (and i assume it's a joke) system can easily have cost-push inflation.
= not a cure |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
23
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:28:00 -
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Doomhowler II Augustus wrote:OP's proposed (and i assume it's a joke) system can easily have cost-push inflation. = not a cure Grumpy Owly wrote:Having a Plex actually add isk into the pot is by definition inlfation. Especially in quantaties of a billion at a time. also wrong, there is literally no way that for example my wallet going from 1b to 2b due to this hypothetical injection-by-plex can raise any prices if i decide not to spend it.
Nobody gets it!
You aren't getting any new isk by using the PLEX you are making it so the amount of isk that can possibly be in circulation increases. You are DONATING your money to help EVE's economy grow, not reaping any benefits. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
358
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:30:00 -
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There are arguments to be made for fixed money supply economies, but this idea of yours is not very sound. It'll cause more problems than it will solve in an already unbalanced system. Eve should be having massive prices increases, but it is not for a number of systemic reasons caused by game mechanics. tinkering with the money supply isn't going to fix any of that, going to a fixed money supply would only make the rich in the game even more rich. |
Doomhowler II Augustus
Incestuous Cult of Paranoid Swamp People
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:31:00 -
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OP imagine your system.
now imagine some moon material monopoly holder not selling their product for one month straight.
do you reckon that maybe due to the nature of the material, people will start shelling out more isk to get anything produced from it, resulting (by definition!) in cost-push inflation? |
Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:32:00 -
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I bet you've all missed this everyone? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
23
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:32:00 -
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Doomhowler II Augustus wrote:OP imagine your system.
now imagine some moon material monopoly holder not selling their product for one month straight.
do you reckon that maybe due to the nature of the material, people will start shelling out more isk to get anything produced from it, resulting (by definition!) in cost-push inflation?
That's valid economics. Why have a monopoly if you can't exploit it?
I want to reduce the hyperinflation due to isk faucets. |
Doomhowler II Augustus
Incestuous Cult of Paranoid Swamp People
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:35:00 -
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i thought you claimed your system won't have any inflation but it seems when it's 'valid economics' instead lolololol.
we have no hyperinflation fyi, it's pretty much impossible to have in eve, even when unsupervised (and ultimately ccp would step in)
limited supply would probably result in some parallel currency.. minerals or faction ammo or whatever. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
642
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:36:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:. You are DONATING your money to help EVE's economy grow, not reaping any benefits.
Yeah, that'll happen.
I thought you said you played Eve before... are you sure all you did wasn't troll the forums?
I thought I remembered your name, and now I know why I didn't remember anything positive or useful in conjunction with it.
If you're reading my sig you cannot claim ignorance, only stupidity or apathy, if you don't go VOTE now for CSM7. |
Grumpy Owly
340
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Doomhowler II Augustus wrote:OP's proposed (and i assume it's a joke) system can easily have cost-push inflation. = not a cure Grumpy Owly wrote:Having a Plex actually add isk into the pot is by definition inlfation. Especially in quantaties of a billion at a time. also wrong, there is literally no way that for example my wallet going from 1b to 2b due to this hypothetical injection-by-plex can raise any prices if i decide not to spend it. Nobody gets it! You aren't getting any new isk by using the PLEX you are making it so the amount of isk that can possibly be in circulation increases. You are DONATING your money to help EVE's economy grow, not reaping any benefits.
Yes you would, it's still an inflationary process.
Adding to the total pot means you extend the amount people can earn.
You think people would enjoy the experience of suddenly realising that the total pot has been reached and they cant profit to gain isk without them or soemone else suddenly being required to push the bubble further out?
How does that model compensate for player growth without enforcement of encouraging PLEX trade? Since yes increased volumes could lower prices. But means more and more plex is needed to afford growth. Where does it stop? When plex is 1 isk? How will that effect the RL trade? You think CCP would encourage people spending $15 for one isk, you don't imagine that would naturally in fact tend to reduce incentives to supply them?
Bounty Hunting for CSM 7
Stop EvE Apathy |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
105
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:
But wouldn't the game stagnate?
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Yes it will, unlike in real life where if someone dies the money goes elsewhere. In EVE if somebody unsubscribes without sending their ISK to someone else (which is usually the case) billions of ISK have been destroyed for good.
Plus your idea pretty much ends the hope for any new players being able to pick up the game because their main source of income for the first week or two of the game, Tutorials, Career Agents, and the SOE arc .
Also, your a communist. A 100% tax rate to one of the most expensive frequently traded item in the game is anti- capitalistic. Please get out of my Conservative wet dream.
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baltec1
839
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:42:00 -
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Why are people taking this guy seriously?
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Doomhowler II Augustus
Incestuous Cult of Paranoid Swamp People
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:43:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!.
it's like opening the portal to outland all again
those were the days
also emptyquotin':
baltec1 wrote:Why are people taking this guy seriously? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1296
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:45:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!
Oh God...it's you again. Well...if you are going to start posting again, would you mind using some proper punctuation? This makes my eyes bleed. Wouldn't hurt if you had something to say that made sense too.
Not a Troll, but constructive criticism. Thanks!
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Jita Alt666
953
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:53:00 -
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Socialism in my hypercapitalist universe?
Please post all your thoughts and Ideas in new threads in GD so they are easy to identify. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
106
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Why are people taking this guy seriously?
Ignorance/boredom/trying to disprove other people that actually support what he says despite it being obviously a joke. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
653
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:25:00 -
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Hahahaha... |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
99
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:28:00 -
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Please listen to the morning report. Here: http://www.evemorningreport.themumm.com/?p=150
Please read the dev blog. Here: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9115
The increase in money supply isn't doing anything! We need more velocity to make inflation happen! Also, we've been experiencing a deflation since '07. So this inflation that's been happening in the short term is only slightly countermanded the years of deflation |
Rao Kappa
InterSun Freelance
Moon Warriors
7
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:37:00 -
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This post was so ridiculous it made go outside and punch a unicorn, but not before I donated one horn to that unicorn so I could expand the amount of horns in that unicorn's economy. |
baltec1
839
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:41:00 -
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Not sure if trollin or stupid... |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
EVE Animal Control
35
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:43:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves. If a ship dies the exact cost of the ship and its modules (recorded in the database as transactions) will be put back into the EVE economy. When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed. But wouldn't the game stagnate? Nope! Instead of selling PLEX on the market or redeeming it for game time PLEX will be the only way of injecting new isk into the economy. Right now PLEX is used for game time or sold for isk and redeemed as game time. I want PLEX to become a donation to the EVE economy. Every PLEX would add 1 billion isk to the max amount of isk in circulation for the entire economy. This means there can be no inflation because nobody is going to spend real money on PLEX if they can still make money. Since players have to pay to benefit the entire economy, there will be no inflation. Inflation would be detrimental to their real world wallets. Taedrin wrote:Welcome back masternerdguy.
Unfortunately, i will have to disagree with you - you are essentially asking to turn PLEX into full fledged RMT - e.g. golden ammo which caused the Summer of Rage in the first place.
EVE's economy is fine as it is - people are just complaining about high PLEX prices. Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players.
Good job, you've made me want WIS and the NEX store in hopes that it will once more drive you away.
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
99
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Not sure if trollin or stupid...
Look, inflation is driven by velocity and money supply. We've had an increase in money supply with a nominal velocity correlation. So, yes there is lots of isk. But no, is not been a long term increase in velocity. |
Skex Relbore
The Dominion of Light
134
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Not sure if trollin or stupid...
Well I know the answer to this question as it applies to you....Yes.
While I don't agree with all of Hexxes's assertions (mainly I think he's ignoring the material input side of the eve economy as well as this silly idea that EVE is a "realistic" economy simulator) at least he's smart enough to understand that inflation isn't a bad thing.
Prices have been primarily flat right up to the introduction of PI (note PI not incursions) which removed an unlimited supply of fixed price goods and replaced them with a limited supply of market priced goods. So obviously you were going to get some price volatility out of that change yes things settled at a slightly higher price point but that's only to be expected since due to the knock on effects of PI introduction. things then hummed along right to the 23rd of December 2011 when we got the big price jump that has everyone in a tizzy today with their "OMG TEH inflation".
The fact that this corresponds to the start of two huge null sec wars that have a huge effect on the supply of key goods to the economy seems to be lost on you all. |
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:49:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:If a ship dies the exact cost of the ship and its modules (recorded in the database as transactions) will be put back into the EVE economy. When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed.
ok i'm not even going to start telling you why that is a completely fuc*ed up idea since i'm not really interested in argueing with a troll.
Instead i'll just go ahead and point you to your mistakes, you then can rethink everything, post again and then let people again fall for your troll....
so here is your mistake: When a ship "dies" no isk is lost. If you increase the max amount of isk by the cost of the ships and modules that die every day you dont have a max. amount anyways. Every ship you buy is bought from another player, every module you buy is bought from another player. that means no isk leaves the system if that ship gets blown up. Everything that leaves is just minerals for which the miners got payed and they keep those isk... So raising the max. amount by the "cost" of each ship will just make sure that the max. isk amount will never be reached ingame because the max. amount will increase faster than isk is generated by isk faucets
now get some idea about how everything works, maybe while you think about that you will notice that your idea is ****** up and noone has to continue to argue with you.... |
Szilardis
Phoibe Enterprises
23
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:58:00 -
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I don't even know who you are and I'm ready for you to go back on vacation. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
361
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:58:00 -
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The question everyone should be asking is, why aren't prices going up, why haven't they been going up since 2007? Answer that and win a prize, the secret to solving the problem. |
cyndrogen
Occultum Scientia
56
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Posted - 2012.04.13 19:03:00 -
[36] - Quote
math is not strong with this one.... ignore. |
AureoBroker
Natural Inventions
Solyaris Chtonium
34
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Posted - 2012.04.13 19:34:00 -
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What is this i don't even |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
168
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Posted - 2012.04.13 19:53:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!
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That sentence ... it looks like somebody wrote something really intelligent... and then put it through Babelfish back and forth a few times.
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
161
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Posted - 2012.04.13 19:53:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!
. That sentence ... it looks like somebody wrote something really intelligent... and then put it through Babelfish back and forth a few times.
How would you have said it?
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Llyandrian
Livestock Science Exchange
46
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:25:00 -
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When ignorance instils confidence: Classic example of Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
78
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:29:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Tobiaz wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!
. That sentence ... it looks like somebody wrote something really intelligent... and then put it through Babelfish back and forth a few times. How would you have said it?
Well if I were you, I probably would have worded it like this
'TL;DR, My idea is terrible, I thought it up while on the crapper, and you would gain more from sniffing glue than reading this thread.'
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Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
170
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:29:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves. Old ISK leaves all the time in the form of players (bittervets & others ) unsubscibing. Ocaasionally it does come back in resubs but I guess not as often as it leaves permenantely
Is there a figure somewhere that can tell us how much isk is actually floating around though?
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Just Alter
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:37:00 -
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the forum really needs a dislike butan.. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
480
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Posted - 2012.04.13 21:37:00 -
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who the hell bumped masternerdtrolls garbage again. |
Elzon1
Shadow Boys Corp
Bloodbound.
20
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Posted - 2012.04.14 00:10:00 -
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So, basically you want PLEX to be the only source of monetary inflation in EVE?
At the same time: masternerdguy wrote:No new isk exits, no old isk leaves.
Understandable, the monetary supply doesn't increase and it doesn't decrease unless someone creates a PLEX which increases the isk faucet/isk velocity by 1 billion units or something.
masternerdguy wrote:When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed.
How about a 15 minute adjustable ratio/rate to increase/decrease faucets/sinks so that isk creation/destruction isn't at zero, but at the average overall rate of activity (creation/destruction of isk)?
masternerdguy wrote:Instead of selling PLEX on the market or redeeming it for game time PLEX will be the only way of injecting new isk into the economy. Right now PLEX is used for game time or sold for isk and redeemed as game time. I want PLEX to become a donation to the EVE economy.
But PLEX itself will still be a tradeable game item that can be redeemed in the form of a monthly subscription with the added functionality that it increases the amount of isk flow in the game upon it's creation? |
Serene Repose
Perkone
Caldari State
574
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:06:00 -
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When someone buys PLEX, they're using money already in circulation, no? ISK isn't being created. ISK would be created if "the game" bought the ISK. It isn't bought that way. Players use their own ISK to buy it. PLEX doesn't add ISK to the economy.
Allowing outside transactions to add ISK to the economy - you buy PLEX, ISK magically appears...somewhere....is printing money.
Inflation is too much money in circulation, not too little. Allowing arbitrary outside transactions to add ISK to the economy will exacerbate, or even cause inflation.
Inflation is too much money in circulation in relation to the amount of goods or services available to be bought. You can either increase production (while ceasing to print money) until there's surplus goods, or you can take money out of circulation. The former would stress the economy, and require an unrealistic increase in production. SO, the traditional remedy is to stop printing money and take some out of circulation, usually at the state banking node.
Since, as I've said, ISK is used similiarly to a point system for accomplishment rewards, and isn't strictly used as a medium of exchange, the introduction of money into the economy has no control valve to turn off. Since the amount of production is limited to the amount of people INTO manufacturing, that number won't increase appreciably any time soon.
There is no magic bullet. Should anyone devise one (as I've said before) the Nobel Committee would be contacting him, or her, as that magic bullet would salvage the world's economy. You'd be the HERO. Unfortunately for the world, and for EVE, no such device exists. It's all relatively simple math.
Control the money supply, or have inflation.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
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