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Xap Starfire
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:28:00 -
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I'm not just talking about average FPS either...sometimes the game "freezes up" for a few seconds while I'm playing. Getting a faster computer is one option, but I'd like to try and speed up my current setup.
Currently I run EVE by itself, I shut down all other programs in the background and non-essential services by running "msconfig" in the start->run menu (I'm on XP btw)
I set my cache size to "normal"...I've got 560ish mb RAM, not sure what to set this to...
I could lower the screen resolution, but I really like hi-res for making the UI windows smaller and more manageable...
So, uh, what else can I do to make EVE run faster? I get a lot of lag in the worst possible times especially (Got a Radeon 9600 pro and P4 single-core 2.4 ghz) right after an acceleration gate when I get bombarded by a fleet of rats...
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Elysarian
Minmatar
dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:02:00 -
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Um... get a new PC?
to upgrade to a decent rig (for premium content) would require a new processor (and probably motherboard) more RAM (at least double what you have), a new GFX card (Geforce 8800/Radeon 3850 or higher).
Assuming you're currently running "Classic" content then the most likely bottleneck is your RAM (560 is a really weird number so you probably have mismatched modules anyway).
The processor is unlikely to limit you much as Eve isn't capable of utilising multi-core processors, the benefit of a newer one would come from the higher clock speed, more efficient design and more cache ram on the die.
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Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Elysarian
Um... get a new PC?
to upgrade to a decent rig (for premium content) would require a new processor (and probably motherboard) more RAM (at least double what you have), a new GFX card (Geforce 8800/Radeon 3850 or higher).
Assuming you're currently running "Classic" content then the most likely bottleneck is your RAM (560 is a really weird number so you probably have mismatched modules anyway).
The processor is unlikely to limit you much as Eve isn't capable of utilising multi-core processors, the benefit of a newer one would come from the higher clock speed, more efficient design and more cache ram on the die.
Yep, more RAM (2 Gb preferred) and/or a newer Video card would help a lot.
That's the more budgetary way if you don't wanna buy a new computer.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2008.08.02 01:49:00 -
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You can eBay a radeon x1650 for $50-70, probably less, or spend more on some of the AGP variants of the HD lineups if you want.
Also, PC2700 RAM is pretty cheap these days, though since you run a Pentium CPU you might have to spend more than I do with my Athlon because some of the newer/cheaper RAM types don't like Pentiums. I bought a 1gb stick for about $27 and my one roommate bought one for his P4 2.6 ghz computer for about $32.
You can play EVE just fine with up to 2 clients with just 1.25 GB of RAM. I'd recommend 3+ for 3 clients. 2.4 GHz CPU is fine as well since I made do with dual clients on an Athlon XP 2000+ CPU (1.6 ghz clock, 2000 effective, supposedly). Furthermore, a Radeon 9800 Pro-based card with at least 128mb of RAM is capable of handling 2 clients fine so for single client Classic graphics it'll be more than enough.
Basically, what it boils down to is get more RAM. Even 1gb more would be a major help. Secondly, even on my computer (2600 effective CPU, 2gb RAM, Radeon x1650 w/512mb RAM) I have freezes and lockups and, once before, jumping into a system locked my computer up for almost a minute, which really sucked because I was in low-sec or 0.0 in a covert ops ship. At that point it was a problem with the game screwing up, not my computer being inferior. However gating into a fleet of rats in a mission or having massive rat spawns causes my computer to "hiccup" for half a second to 2 seconds, especially when I'm warping a second client into a room where the first one is and the rats are already shooting.
For cache if I remember correctly high cache only uses up about 450mb of RAM per client while low to no cache is about 250mb. The problem here is that the lower your cache the less RAM it uses but the more data the client will have to load over time so you really should upgrade RAM ASAP and set your cache to at least high.
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.02 10:30:00 -
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disable all video effects, disable all services, minimize the number of processes and services in your system... run at minimum color depth resolution and no sound... your performance will go 3 times higher.
i am serious, i could run counterstrike on a petium I computer and still win the match... (we all know that CS was meant for pentium 4)
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Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.02 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone
disable all video effects, disable all services, minimize the number of processes and services in your system... run at minimum color depth resolution and no sound... your performance will go 3 times higher.
i am serious, i could run counterstrike on a petium I computer and still win the match... (we all know that CS was meant for pentium 4)
Really?
I ran CS 0.6 Beta on some crappy old hardware, no need for P4's.
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Elysarian
Minmatar
dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2008.08.02 11:49:00 -
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A quick Googling and I found the requirements for Counterstrike:
Windows« 95, Windows 98 or Windows NT 4.0
Pentium« 133
24 MB RAM
2X CD-ROM drive
Mouse and Keyboard
640x480 SVGA high color (16-bit) display
Windows-compatible sound device
Recommended System Requirements
Pentium« 166+
32 MB RAM
3D accelerator card (OpenGL or Direct 3D)
So running it on a Pentium 1 would not be an issue 
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Yargan Rasaan
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Yargan Rasaan on 02/08/2008 15:11:33
Okay, I got the same prob as Xap.
But it used to be okay. I had a break from Eve for about 2 month, so when I got back in, Empyrean Age just was out.
I moved in the meantime (same city, still), so my guess is:
a) this is provider-related problem
b) it's some kind of issue related to the EA update (in combination with some certain hardware)
I recently reinstalled my whole system (Vista 32 Home Premium, AMD Dualcore Turion 64X2, 2GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce 8600 M 512 MB VRAM)because I thought it was just my OS being screwed up. But the problems continue: seconds of freezes, dodgy cursermovement, plainly bad performance.
I tried playing at a friend's through his connection and the problems still remained.
As mentioned before, it used to perform smoothly as a baby's bum about 3 month ago. With the same configuration, premium graphics full throttle and a basically srewed OS (it's Vista after all...).
So, if anyone has got any idea what this is all about, spread the news! Or even better, give a solution! 
Btw, It seems I'm not the only one with that problem. There are a lot of similar complaints in the german forum aswell.
Cheers!
P.S.: My internet connection is a theoretically 15 Mbit. Should b sufficient, shouldn't it?
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FatSlug
Minmatar
3 Dwarfs Mining Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.02 20:20:00 -
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Yep there is definately something different! I am on a low end P4, suffered some lag (expected so never really bothered me), but this time the whole game freezes AND any app running in the background, like this forum!
I have had the game stall many times, but never the cursor which is happening now!
What's happening????
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Terinnon
Amarr
German Trading Association
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Posted - 2008.08.02 20:48:00 -
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You mainly need some more RAM... upgrade ur RAM with 1GB to 1,5GB this will help alot!
Running classic client doenst require new GFX cards or Highend CPU¦s... with 1GB or more of RAM u should be able to run the game on 30fps+
your lags are HDD lags, your pc collects data from the virtual RAM on ur HDD and the HDD is realy realy realy slow....
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.02 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian
A quick Googling and I found the requirements for Counterstrike:
Windows« 95, Windows 98 or Windows NT 4.0
Pentium« 133
24 MB RAM
2X CD-ROM drive
Mouse and Keyboard
640x480 SVGA high color (16-bit) display
Windows-compatible sound device
Recommended System Requirements
Pentium« 166+
32 MB RAM
3D accelerator card (OpenGL or Direct 3D)
So running it on a Pentium 1 would not be an issue
only problem was that I played in 256 or so color mode and 384x286 resolution to get my 20-30 FPS out of it! and the system featured 4 Mega Bytes of Video Memory...
Some people complain about 8800 Ultra being not enough for their everyday CS Source recreation
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Yargan Rasaan
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Posted - 2008.08.03 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Terinnon
You mainly need some more RAM... upgrade ur RAM with 1GB to 1,5GB this will help alot!
Running classic client doenst require new GFX cards or Highend CPU¦s... with 1GB or more of RAM u should be able to run the game on 30fps+
your lags are HDD lags, your pc collects data from the virtual RAM on ur HDD and the HDD is realy realy realy slow....
As mentioned, I got 2GB Ram and on the drive EVE is installed on (C:\) there's about 30 GB free. Should be enough, I think?
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Yargan Rasaan
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Posted - 2008.08.03 07:30:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=823474
This thread also deals with similar/same problems. No solution so far, though.
This is really a serious problem.
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Yargan Rasaan
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Posted - 2008.08.03 07:34:00 -
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Oh, btw., I cleared my cache before playing yesterday and it seemed to perform better. For the first ten minutes.
That couldn't have been the problem anyway, because Eve was performing badly right after a new installation.
*sigh*
I'm just lucky I'm not doing any Pvp... 
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Rabs
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.03 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Yargan Rasaan
Edited by: Yargan Rasaan on 02/08/2008 15:11:33
Okay, I got the same prob as Xap.
But it used to be okay. I had a break from Eve for about 2 month, so when I got back in, Empyrean Age just was out.
I moved in the meantime (same city, still), so my guess is:
a) this is provider-related problem
b) it's some kind of issue related to the EA update (in combination with some certain hardware)
I recently reinstalled my whole system (Vista 32 Home Premium, AMD Dualcore Turion 64X2, 2GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce 8600 M 512 MB VRAM)because I thought it was just my OS being screwed up. But the problems continue: seconds of freezes, dodgy cursermovement, plainly bad performance.
I tried playing at a friend's through his connection and the problems still remained.
As mentioned before, it used to perform smoothly as a baby's bum about 3 month ago. With the same configuration, premium graphics full throttle and a basically srewed OS (it's Vista after all...).
So, if anyone has got any idea what this is all about, spread the news! Or even better, give a solution!
Btw, It seems I'm not the only one with that problem. There are a lot of similar complaints in the german forum aswell.
Cheers!
P.S.: My internet connection is a theoretically 15 Mbit. Should b sufficient, shouldn't it?
I have a laptop with a similar spec, just a different CPU, same gfx, 4GB of ram - even at this spec eve and other games ran very poor.
I went back to XP on the laptop (it shipped with Vista) and all is well with all games. My laptop runs 2 x premium clients happily at 1600 x 900 windowed.
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Yargan Rasaan
Gallente
Informal Syndicate of Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.03 12:04:00 -
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So you're saying it's a Vista problem?
I wouldn't be surprised...
Although it used to perform smoothly with vista before empyrean age. Well. Before. Hm.
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Rabs
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.03 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Yargan Rasaan
So you're saying it's a Vista problem?
I wouldn't be surprised...
Although it used to perform smoothly with vista before empyrean age. Well. Before. Hm.
Im not saying Vista is bad, just your installation might have gone bad over time. Your system will perform better under Windows XP or alternately do a format & reinstall.
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Yargan Rasaan
Gallente
Informal Syndicate of Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:33:00 -
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Done that. It's a complete fresh installation of the OS. And the game.
This is really p*****g me off. I wish I knew what the problem is, so I could blame someone.
I'm at wits' end.
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Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Yargan Rasaan
Done that. It's a complete fresh installation of the OS. And the game.
This is really p*****g me off. I wish I knew what the problem is, so I could blame someone.
I'm at wits' end.
What kind of motherboard?
Latest BIOS and settings omptimized?
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Yargan Rasaan
Gallente
Informal Syndicate of Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:47:00 -
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Thx. I'll try if getting rid of vista helps anything first, though. But if not, I'll check the bios. But it should be up to date, the computer's quite new.
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Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yargan Rasaan
Thx. I'll try if getting rid of vista helps anything first, though. But if not, I'll check the bios. But it should be up to date, the computer's quite new.
Do as you please.
But blaming Vista is "the easy way out" as many use Vista without problems.
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Yargan Rasaan
Gallente
Informal Syndicate of Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.07 22:46:00 -
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Yeah, I know. XP didn't work yet, so I just reinstalled Vista (again), and all of a sudden Eve seems to perform better. Don't ask me why, though.
But checking my Bios would probably a good idea anyway, even though the computer's new.
And just for the record: I'm not really blaming Vista for it. The same problem occurs with XP aswell, And no one has clue so far.
But thanks for trying to help,anyway! ;)
Fly save.
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