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The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2008.07.31 14:42:00 - [61] Originally by: Dreadmuppet Four cookie cutter mega setup - 1150 DPS 123kEHP [Megathron, gank boy] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Stasis Webifier II Faint Warp Prohibitor I Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Actualy a mix of Berserkers and Orges works a bit better in general also a 3. MFS instead of the EANM in my experience(at least for solo). If you realy want to tank it switch the EANM for a Large Repper and put the Neut offline(can be onlined when you get a Vaga or Ceptor anoying you), works quite good in the long run(Since you can overload the Repper very long, also the Turrets to if u put the Neut in the Middle). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Mu Yaling Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.07.31 14:48:00 - [62] to be honest my only response to the "need an mwd" crowd is Fly in a Balanced gang of competent pilots, gosh maybe even use a Cov Ops to help with warp ins, and god forbid bring ships, and the pilots to fly said ships who happen to be good at holding down people. that raven does not need an MWD, all it needs is common sense and a bit of teamwork the thread asked for best buffer/gank style Bs. those numbers show this raven is clearly it. oh, and **** off with the whole COSMOS neut thing, if you READ the thread, you'll see that that was the first neut i clicked on, they all work and fit just fine. i suppose the TL;DR USE YOUR INITIATIVE
kessah State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.31 14:48:00 - [63] This Raven fit will set you back about 150m- which aint bad considering - will also need sick amounts of Skill points in Battleships. 6x Siege II w/ DG torps o there around 2x Neutron Blaster Cannon II w/ CN AM 2x Invun II 3x LSE II 1x MWD Quad LiF 1x BCS II 2x CN BCS 2x TS RCU 2x Ogre II 2x Hammerheads II 1x Hogo II 3x CDFE I 1448 dps w/overload 1663 dps. Thing is there are rare implants that can further this for mere 100's of millions of isk not billions and you will require CPU implants for this, but if u go faction alittle bit more and fit more caldari navy mods you can get... 1503 dps w/overload 1727 dps. This dps is practically unheard of for what will set you back most likly a billion -1.5b isk Enjoy
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.07.31 14:57:00 - [64] Originally by: kessah This Raven fit will set you back about 150m- which aint bad considering - will also need sick amounts of Skill points in Battleships. 6x Siege II w/ DG torps o there around 2x Neutron Blaster Cannon II w/ CN AM 2x Invun II 3x LSE II 1x MWD Quad LiF 1x BCS II 2x CN BCS 2x TS RCU 2x Ogre II 2x Hammerheads II 1x Hogo II 3x CDFE I 1448 dps w/overload 1663 dps. Thing is there are rare implants that can further this for mere 100's of millions of isk not billions and you will require CPU implants for this, but if u go faction alittle bit more and fit more caldari navy mods you can get... 1503 dps w/overload 1727 dps. This dps is practically unheard of for what will set you back most likly a billion -1.5b isk Enjoy Thats very nice and I may very well use something like this fitting, but for the 1.5 billion isk... I'm a well skilled thanatos pilot so I think I'de just bring one of them along lol.
kessah State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.31 15:17:00 - [65] Edited by: kessah on 31/07/2008 15:22:19 Originally by: Wil Smithx Originally by: kessah This Raven fit will set you back about 150m- which aint bad considering - will also need sick amounts of Skill points in Battleships. 6x Siege II w/ DG torps o there around 2x Neutron Blaster Cannon II w/ CN AM 2x Invun II 3x LSE II 1x MWD Quad LiF 1x BCS II 2x CN BCS 2x TS RCU 2x Ogre II 2x Hammerheads II 1x Hogo II 3x CDFE I 1448 dps w/overload 1663 dps. Thing is there are rare implants that can further this for mere 100's of millions of isk not billions and you will require CPU implants for this, but if u go faction alittle bit more and fit more caldari navy mods you can get... 1503 dps w/overload 1727 dps. This dps is practically unheard of for what will set you back most likly a billion -1.5b isk Enjoy Thats very nice and I may very well use something like this fitting, but for the 1.5 billion isk... I'm a well skilled thanatos pilot so I think I'de just bring one of them along lol. True but thats if you want the 5%'s and thats again if you have already invested in the carrier skill books. The Ship and mods arent the expensive bit. -5% cpu implants like 90m and the 5% torp rof is i think 150m? along with 192m for the 5% extra shield hitpoints implant. There are tho 3% alternatives. If you havnt the Blaster skills or the isk you can use this cheaper alternative: 6x Siege II w/ Yup DG torps - set you back 25m for 100 in jita when they pop up. Or Rage if you must 2x Heavy Unstable Neuts 3x LSE II 2x Invul II 1x Faint Prohibitor I - 32 cpu, tbh u might aswell fork out for a CPU implant and fit t2 3x BCS II 1x RCU II 1x PDU II 3x CDFE I 2x Hammerhead 2x Ogre 1x hogo You dont require an MWD on a Raven, your neuts believe it or not will get you out of trouble more often or not, and you should always have a scout so you will know if falcons are around. 1209 Dps w/overload 1385 dps, 102k EHP, with 109 passive defence (that actually counts for something), If your not feeling the Neut love, drop one, fit DCU II and switch RCU for PDU and go with offline Smartbomb or something. Your EHP then hit 134k and you dont need that cpu implant. That also doesnt include level 5 torp spec (friend has it before asked) and only the 3% rof torp plant.
The Tzar Malicious Intentions Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.07.31 15:25:00 - [66] 8 x Neutron Cannon II 1 x Quad LiF Rocket Booster 2 x Invul II 3 x LSE II 3 x MFS II 1 x DCU II 1 x RCU II 3 x Core defence field extender rigs 5 x Vespa EC-600 __________________________________________ 'Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear intelligent until they speak' __________________________________________
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.07.31 15:36:00 - [67] Edited by: Wil Smithx on 31/07/2008 15:36:59 Originally by: kessah True but thats if you want the 5%'s and thats again if you have already invested in the carrier skill books. The Ship and mods arent the expensive bit. -5% cpu implants like 90m and the 5% torp rof is i think 150m? along with 192m for the 5% extra shield hitpoints implant. There are tho 3% alternatives. If you havnt the Blaster skills or the isk you can use this cheaper alternative: 6x Siege II w/ Yup DG torps - set you back 25m for 100 in jita when they pop up. Or Rage if you must 2x Heavy Unstable Neuts 3x LSE II 2x Invul II 1x Faint Prohibitor I - 32 cpu, tbh u might aswell fork out for a CPU implant and fit t2 3x BCS II 1x RCU II 1x PDU II 3x CDFE I 2x Hammerhead 2x Ogre 1x hogo You dont require an MWD on a Raven, your neuts believe it or not will get you out of trouble more often or not, and you should always have a scout so you will know if falcons are around. 1209 Dps w/overload 1385 dps, 102k EHP, with 109 passive defence (that actually counts for something), If your not feeling the Neut love, drop one, fit DCU II and switch RCU for PDU and go with offline Smartbomb or something. Your EHP then hit 134k and you dont need that cpu implant. That also doesnt include level 5 torp spec (friend has it before asked) and only the 3% rof torp plant. Hmm, I'm nowhere near spec'd enough towards torps to get that kinda damage out, since I have been a gallente pilot most my life and then decided I wanted a golem lol. Also If I was going to use an expencive ship for pvp, prob easier to go for a CNR since all its torps will still make it to the 30km mark unlike those poor blasters. Edit: oh and also lol, your shooting around 200k a second of ammo Originally by: The Tzar 8 x Neutron Cannon II 1 x Quad LiF Rocket Booster 2 x Invul II 3 x LSE II 3 x MFS II 1 x DCU II 1 x RCU II 3 x Core defence field extender rigs 5 x Vespa EC-600 I like the fitting, but what should I use instead of that RCU :D a 4th mag stab seems a bit worthless lol
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:10:00 - [68] Originally by: Wil Smithx At what speeds though lol, considering you're plated 830-ish m/s non-overheated. It's significantly faster then 150m/s or w/e without MWD too - and my Typhoon with torps has rather limited range, so if I don't warp in close enough or help arrives on grid, I can just sit there and die. Say 5 geddons warp in 25km off, what am I going to do? Slowboat at 150m/s? With a MWD and new slow speed, approaching hurts, but at least you don't have to self-destruct your ship. Also, if RR-ing, MWDs are de-facto neccesary. When you jump in a system, some of you are 15km off, some are 30km off, etc. To recieve/give RR support you need to be close to each other - the sooner you can get to RR range the better. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:28:00 - [69] Kronos can hit 1180 DPS with 163k EHP and still have mwd, hvy injector, and a hvy neut. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Denuo Secus	Posted - 2008.07.31 18:28:00 - [70] Edited by: Denuo Secus on 31/07/2008 18:28:56 Originally by: Mu Yaling to be honest my only response to the "need an mwd" crowd is Fly in a Balanced gang of competent pilots, gosh maybe even use a Cov Ops to help with warp ins, and god forbid bring ships, and the pilots to fly said ships who happen to be good at holding down people. that raven does not need an MWD, all it needs is common sense and a bit of teamwork the thread asked for best buffer/gank style Bs. those numbers show this raven is clearly it. oh, and **** off with the whole COSMOS neut thing, if you READ the thread, you'll see that that was the first neut i clicked on, they all work and fit just fine. i suppose the TL;DR USE YOUR INITIATIVE I like your teamwork argument. But I'm curious...would you fit an AB on a BS then (Especially after the speed change)? Or no speed mod and save the slot for other stuff?
Trefnis Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Mu Yaling oh, and **** off with the whole COSMOS neut thing, if you READ the thread, you'll see that that was the first neut i clicked on, are you an idiot or something ? as i said without cosmos neut you are short of like 150 grid, got that or is it to long to read ? as for no mwd it means your "kewl gang" NEVER chase hostile through gate, as then you are 12km off gate and in deep shit if they had a trap set.
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:20:00 - [72] Originally by: General Paul Its not that the rokh is bad at what it does, ccp just overpowered the amaar slightly and crystal sets are broken for passive tanking. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA breathes AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now seriously shut up and go home.
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.31 23:47:00 - [73] Originally by: Mu Yaling to be honest my only response to the "need an mwd" crowd is Fly in a Balanced gang of competent pilots, gosh maybe even use a Cov Ops to help with warp ins, and god forbid bring ships, and the pilots to fly said ships who happen to be good at holding down people. that raven does not need an MWD, all it needs is common sense and a bit of teamwork the thread asked for best buffer/gank style Bs. those numbers show this raven is clearly it. oh, and **** off with the whole COSMOS neut thing, if you READ the thread, you'll see that that was the first neut i clicked on, they all work and fit just fine. i suppose the TL;DR USE YOUR INITIATIVE Or you can learn there is more to pvp than just in empire. You see, there is this area, which comprise of about 70% of eve, called 0.0 space. In this 0.0 space, they have something called dictor bubbles(scary I know). When inside a dictor bubble, you can't warp, and it drags you off the gate if you just warped in. But obviously with your balanced gang your battleship would be able to warp inside of bubbles and everyone who fits a MWD on their fleet sniper(which is anyone even half decent) are unimaginative morons who are crap at pvp right? Or it could just be your completely lack of perspective.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.31 23:49:00 - [74] It will be an armor tanked BS, since armor has a higher overal resistance than shields and plates have much more hp than shield extenders.
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.31 23:55:00 - [75] Originally by: General Paul Edited by: General Paul on 31/07/2008 11:29:10 I dont fly them but ill try for you. The main thng is slave sets, they give armor tankers a huge advantage. I think there either should be implants for shield ammount or slaves should be tweaked a little.

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