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ArmagedonLT
Amarr coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: ArmagedonLT on 04/08/2008 19:05:57 2 blocks please, will send isk in few mins.
isk sent.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: YouGotRipped
There is no waiting period. I don't expect this to fly off the shelf so money sent is money received automatically diminishing the reservations pool. LRN will receive the isk btw.
Why don't you expect this to fly off the shelf? I know I'm not interested but then again I haven't gotten over how you acted in your previous attempts a few months back. The fact that you have gotten a few bites also isn't that surprising but here's an honest question... What do yo think has changed or hasn't changed that has convinced some people to invest in you?
Did you get lost little chicken?
hahahah 
What? Why can't you just answer the questions? I think they are as valid as any. What do you think has changed since your first attempts at getting funding? This offering went off without a hitch so I was just curious as to what has changed.
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.06 00:09:00 -
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Well, judging by your lack of a response I guess the only thing that has changed are the investors.
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.07 17:24:00 -
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bump. You must have forgotten about me because I know you wouldn't act childish.
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.08 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: cosmoray on 08/08/2008 02:37:02 This IPO has a big lolz factor to me.
YGR/LRN makes some good posts and is intelligent, but has a bad rep. Some while back made comments about scamming. The name is an issue.
Now he launches a 5B bond, but raises 6.25B. Doesn't flinch and accepts the capital.
Now this could be a very successful bond, but a large dose of "caveat emptor" me thinks!
note: I purposely stayed out of this thread because I wanted to see the general reaction to this bond, and whether anyone would pose some serious questions. Not many of the people actually invested really did.
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray note: I purposely stayed out of this thread because I wanted to see the general reaction to this bond, and whether anyone would pose some serious questions. Not many of the people actually invested really did.
Same here. I was very suprised to see so many people investing. I can only assume that people know that YGR/LRN is a regular here and equate that with trustworthiness.
I'd be very suprised if this is anything but above board though. 6.25B is a pitiful amount to scam for. This really is nothing but 'The Prologue' . --------------------------------------
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo I was very suprised to see so many people investing. I can only assume that people know that YGR/LRN is a regular here and equate that with trustworthiness.
I'd be very suprised if this is anything but above board though. 6.25B is a pitiful amount to scam for. This really is nothing but 'The Prologue' .
Ya, unfortunately they think anyone that trolls the forum regularly warrants a few billion. No matter how shitty there posts, or how many times they've been banned for trolling or how many failed IPO's they've had or for that matter the fact that they essentially admitted their early attempts were scams. Despite all that, if they have a high post count they must be worth a try. 
That said, I sincerely doubt this offering will be the one he runs off with. It is indeed 'the prologue.' He also made a brilliant move by oversubscribing it. This is in my mind one of the greatest indications of a scam (remember Riethe) and now when he does it on a big one he can just site this as precedent.
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Amrumm
Rhetorical Devices
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 08/08/2008 02:37:02 This IPO has a big lolz factor to me.
YGR/LRN makes some good posts and is intelligent, but has a bad rep. Some while back made comments about scamming. The name is an issue.
Now he launches a 5B bond, but raises 6.25B. Doesn't flinch and accepts the capital.
Now this could be a very successful bond, but a large dose of "caveat emptor" me thinks!
note: I purposely stayed out of this thread because I wanted to see the general reaction to this bond, and whether anyone would pose some serious questions. Not many of the people actually invested really did.
I think YGR has enough experience with MD that if he wants to scam and people ask him serious questions, he would be able to find the proper answers. So my investment in this venture is a gamble, just like all my other investments.
I'm interested on seeing where he intends to take his cooperative business.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amrumm I think YGR has enough experience with MD that if he wants to scam and people ask him serious questions, he would be able to find the proper answers. So my investment in this venture is a gamble, just like all my other investments.
I have no doubt that he can run a business and thus give "proper answers." I also have no doubt that after establishing said business, if the ISK is high enough, he'll not just steal the ISK but come back here to laugh in everyone's faces.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This one may not be a scam, the next one may not be a scam but I'd stake my fortune on the fact that in the end, YouGotRipped will not just rip off his investors but flood this forum with ****-posts. Well, I guess he's already done that.
You should really read some of his earlier threads.
Try this one.
I can't decide whether my favorite quote is,
Originally by: YouGotRipped 2. I'm sorry, you're just not among the 2 persons on these forums I have consideration for. Better luck next life.
or
Originally by: CCP Mitnal OP please do not troll your own thread
To quote myself,
If you're wondering why I go the extra mile in reminding people the YouGotRipped is a troll who's been banned, had threads locked and more posts than I can count moderated not to mention implied that his early (and failed) attempts at gaining capital were scams, it's because he made a point of being a jerk to me and used a bastardized version of my signature (including my name) for weeks in an effort to associate me with his horrible reputation. I'll be reminding people of that until the day people stop making excuses for him.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.08 13:47:00 -
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I would appreciate it if Ricdic would also post in this thread.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.08 16:39:00 -
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Im new around here, and I have already been warned a dozen times in game about YGR... Now, I dont know if this dude is legit or not and I do not judge someone by what other people say about them.
However the simple fact that your name is "YouGotRipped" in the MD forum, is enough for me to confidently say that I will never do business with you, ever... or at least knowingly do business with you.
I mean come on man have a little bit of respect for people. Your name is enough for people to write you off as nothing more then a childish scammer. Its like your laughing at all the people who have had an investment go bad, and then telling everyone that you will laugh at them if their investments in you go bad.
Personally I feel its lame, childish, and something you would see on the C&P forum.
People invest in things that sound legit that arent, request audits and everything. Then someone with a name like that walks in and after a bit they throw isk at him like he was dancing nakid on a pole.
*sigh*
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 08/08/2008 16:43:42
The above post has been reported for harassment.
Let me know how that turns out. 
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Salvo Brunel
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:32:00 -
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I'm an investor in this bond.
I'm interested to see the angry criticisms coming out after the bond issue. I'm not in a position to judge whether or not they are justified. I'd like to comment on their timing and intensity.
The timing means that the comments were useless to potential investors. AC155 is an exception to this. The great and good of MD talk a lot about the ęcommunityĘ, but didnĘt act in a communal spirit on this one. IĘd like to put on record that IĘm still (rightly or wrongly) confident in these bonds.
The timing and *intensity* have the effect, deliberate or not, of making the issuer more likely to default. If you call a person a cheat long enough how long before they become one?
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 08/08/2008 16:43:42
The above post has been reported for harassment.
Maybe I am over posting here but another thing I would like to point out.
It does not help that you chidlishly report someone after they called you out for being lame and a threat.
Kwint Sommer's post history trumps yours.. heck you two aren't even in the same ball game. Your still playing the preverbal mental T-Ball, and he is throwing strike outs in the major leagues.
Perhaps though by all this goading and prodding you are getting, you will be less likely to scam people, or you will scam people and say its our faults for calling you a scammer.
However I think its just our way of making sure that you dont scam people because you dont want us to be "right"
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 08/08/2008 17:55:12
Originally by: Hexxx
Let me know how that turns out. 
hahah
Irrespective of how that turns out, the plan remains unaltered and I assure you my resolve has never been stronger. 
Phase two will be launched Monday.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.08 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 08/08/2008 19:54:11
Originally by: Salvo Brunel I'm an investor in this bond.
I'm interested to see the angry criticisms coming out after the bond issue. I'm not in a position to judge whether or not they are justified. I'd like to comment on their timing and intensity.
The timing means that the comments were useless to potential investors. AC155 is an exception to this. The great and good of MD talk a lot about the ęcommunityĘ, but didnĘt act in a communal spirit on this one. IĘd like to put on record that IĘm still (rightly or wrongly) confident in these bonds.
The timing and *intensity* have the effect, deliberate or not, of making the issuer more likely to default. If you call a person a cheat long enough how long before they become one?
I thank you for your support and I would like to take this opportunity to post a quick progress report:
Although I've had a slow start buffering on raw materials I am close to reaching the 625m profit mark (if I haven't surpassed it already) needed to pay the divs. As a result I have decided adjust the pace of the project and restructure my operations with the sole purpose of maximizing efficiency rather than profit.
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Finedele
Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.08 21:44:00 -
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at least for me i can say i like YGR somehow. its maybe because he always gets pounded from all around for his behavior, which is indeed sometimes a bit bad, but i like him anyway. some people just behave as his surrounding would expect, but behind this wall ... ;) its a game after all were you can act as if you were evil. or be evil even! some people forget this at times i think
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:03:00 -
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Maybe YGR is looking for the big 100 billion ISk scam down the road maybe he isn't. It doesn't really matter he could just as easily came up with a normal name and made post that were nice, warm and fuzzy on the MD forum. Ran the same IPOs he has run and then start a 25 billion or more ISK IPO and scamed. The only benefit he would get out of scaming using the YGR name is the extra laugh he gets out of having folks invest in someone with that name.
Heck we just saw a scam for 10 or 15 billion when the guy jump through all the hoops, gave out his main and alts name, and did the audit thing. I personally kind of like YGR posting and though he something doesn't know when to let something drop that doesn't really bug me to much.
I like to see where YGR is going and so far I ve gotten good returns off investing in him if 3 months or 6 months from now I lose money in one of his venture thru bad judgment on his part or it just being a scam it will be my lost and I will live with it. Its easy enough to keep saying something is a scam, not like you losing anything. If later on it turns out you were right then I guess you get the benefit of saying I told you so. If it turns out you were wrong it not like most folks will come back and say guess I was wrong.
I ve seen few solid investment that no one thinks were scam go belly up with everyone losing all there ISK so it not like there is a sure thing in eve anyway. So until YGR does something to make me lose confidence in him I will keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.09 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Finedele Edited by: Finedele on 08/08/2008 21:45:55 at least for me i can say i like YGR somehow. its maybe because he always gets pounded from all around for his behavior, which is indeed sometimes a bit bad, but i like him anyway. some people just behave as his surrounding would expect, but behind this wall ... ;) its a game after all were you can act as if you were evil. or be evil even! some people forget this at times i think furthermore i can say his last bond run well (enough for me) until reallife hitted hard, but he closed the bond fine, instead of just being away
hahah 
"If I could be your angel, I'd trade in my arms for some wings, To keep you close, to me..."
Originally by: MilowFV Maybe YGR is looking for the big 100 billion ISk scam down the road maybe he isn't. It doesn't really matter he could just as easily came up with a normal name and made post that were nice, warm and fuzzy on the MD forum. Ran the same IPOs he has run and then start a 25 billion or more ISK IPO and scamed. The only benefit he would get out of scaming using the YGR name is the extra laugh he gets out of having folks invest in someone with that name.
Heck we just saw a scam for 10 or 15 billion when the guy jump through all the hoops, gave out his main and alts name, and did the audit thing. I personally kind of like YGR posting and though he something doesn't know when to let something drop that doesn't really bug me to much.
I like to see where YGR is going and so far I ve gotten good returns off investing in him if 3 months or 6 months from now I lose money in one of his venture thru bad judgment on his part or it just being a scam it will be my lost and I will live with it. Its easy enough to keep saying something is a scam, not like you losing anything. If later on it turns out you were right then I guess you get the benefit of saying I told you so. If it turns out you were wrong it not like most folks will come back and say guess I was wrong.
I ve seen few solid investment that no one thinks were scam go belly up with everyone losing all there ISK so it not like there is a sure thing in eve anyway. So until YGR does something to make me lose confidence in him I will keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.
That's very perceptive of you. I am impressed. However I must add that I have no intention of raising additional funds nor will I play this game for an indefinite time. This pet project is at the moment all that binds me to the MD.
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Vhaluus
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Posted - 2008.08.09 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Vhaluus on 09/08/2008 02:58:31
Originally by: Lubimchik
Kwint Sommer's post history trumps yours.. heck you two aren't even in the same ball game. Your still playing the preverbal mental T-Ball, and he is throwing strike outs in the major leagues.
and YGRs posting history in this forum makes you look like you're still in diapers. Hell it trumps mine too.
But quantity or quality of posts previously does not decide whether or not any single post is classified as harassment. I don't actually think kwints post was harassment at all but your logic is incredibly flawed.
Seems to me you're just making that post to suck up to the 'big names' of this forum.
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LRN
Ewigkeit Zzz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 11/08/2008 08:27:04
Need some help liquidating some assets in order to supplement the funds for the project. Resale opportunity for those that are more patient than I am.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: LRN Edited by: LRN on 11/08/2008 08:27:04
Need some help liquidating some assets in order to supplement the funds for the project. Resale opportunity for those that are more patient than I am.
I love this. You haven't raised enough capital for your project.
I suggest another round of funding!
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:22:00 -
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In fact how much you looking for?
You have some good assets, the CNR, mods, freighter and BS BPOs.
I will lend you upto 5B ISK at 2% per week and I would hold the collateral equalling that value.
Cheaper than raising the cash on the market.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.11 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray In fact how much you looking for?
You have some good assets, the CNR, mods, freighter and BS BPOs.
I will lend you upto 5B ISK at 2% per week and I would hold the collateral equalling that value.
Cheaper than raising the cash on the market.
Thanks for the offer Cosmo but I'll pass. 
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CornerStoner
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Posted - 2008.08.11 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vhaluus
Seems to me you're just making that post to suck up to the 'big names' of this forum.
Seems like that's been the case for a week or more. When is the IPO Lubimchik?
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.11 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lubimchik on 11/08/2008 23:27:08
Originally by: Vhaluus Edited by: Vhaluus on 09/08/2008 02:58:31
Originally by: Lubimchik
Kwint Sommer's post history trumps yours.. heck you two aren't even in the same ball game. Your still playing the preverbal mental T-Ball, and he is throwing strike outs in the major leagues.
and YGRs posting history in this forum makes you look like you're still in diapers. Hell it trumps mine too.
But quantity or quality of posts previously does not decide whether or not any single post is classified as harassment. I don't actually think kwints post was harassment at all but your logic is incredibly flawed.
Seems to me you're just making that post to suck up to the 'big names' of this forum.
Woah.. totally just noticed.. yeah sucking up... if you look back between me and Kwint.. we tend to not see eye to eye.. and bump heads a couple 3 or 4 times.
However what I met is Kwint does not post often but when he does normally its about something he knows a shit load about or is defently educated on it!
Sucking up hardly... Hmm, so why is it that you are always attacking me? In every post I seem to go to, you attack me... Yeah I post with confidence in my knowledge but alot of times the 'vets' smack me down and put me in my place.
So simmer down, I have not once attacked you outright, or even in private.
Whats your deal dude?
Originally by: CornerStoner
Originally by: Vhaluus
Seems to me you're just making that post to suck up to the 'big names' of this forum.
Seems like that's been the case for a week or more. When is the IPO Lubimchik?
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Woah... uhh yeah.. step back. I dont plan on having an IPO or launching an IPO, I thought about it for my casino but I have found another method to fund it with out public money!!
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.14 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 14/08/2008 20:21:27
I'm sorry guys, there are certain marketing management aspects related to phase two that would require far more resources than I am willing to sink into this project, not now, not ever. It is a matter of utility and finality nothing more. I would like to thank Shadarle (quoted in sig) for having determined me to reassess the above key metrics.
While the whole project is adrift and phase two postponed indefinitely, the current bond offering will live on as a standalone application until its dissolution not too long in the future.
Originally by: Shadarle You're a worthless wanna-be scammer who has had absolutely zero success doing anything here... so why should anyone care what you say.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 14/08/2008 20:53:15
I'm sorry guys, there are certain marketing management aspects related to phase two that would require far more resources than I am willing to sink into this project, not now, not ever. It is a matter of utility and finality nothing more. I would like to thank to an Amish guy by the name of Shadarle (quoted in sig) for having determined me to reassess the above key metrics.
While the whole project is adrift and phase two postponed indefinitely, the current bond offering will live on as a standalone application until its dissolution not too long in the future.
YGR/LRN,
If you are ever looking for reasons why people are scared to invest in you its because of post like this and others before it.
Now I actually like your posts, and you have some good things to say, but you do your best to kill yourself.
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Salvo Brunel
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Posted - 2008.08.19 16:58:00 -
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YGR / LRN,
We were promised weekly reports.
Originally by: YGR This thread will serve both for tracking investments/issuing shares and for weekly reporting.
I'm not sure if this (08.08)counts are a weekly report...
Originally by: YGR I thank you for your support and I would like to take this opportunity to post a quick progress report:
Although I've had a slow start buffering on raw materials I am close to reaching the 625m profit mark (if I haven't surpassed it already) needed to pay the divs. I have decided to dispose of some personal assets and supplement the project funds by 3-4B isk which will allow me to adjust the pace of the project and restructure my operations with the sole purpose of maximizing efficiency rather than profit.
...but this (08.14)definitely doesn't.
Originally by: LRN I'm sorry guys, there are certain marketing management aspects related to phase two that would require far more resources than I am willing to sink into this project, not now, not ever. It is a matter of utility and finality nothing more. While the whole project is adrift and phase two postponed indefinitely, the current bond offering will live on as a standalone application until its dissolution not too long in the future.
Could I request a proper weekly report, please?
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.19 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/08/2008 17:01:19
Originally by: Salvo Brunel
Could I request a proper weekly report, please?
But of course. One of my less popular accounts is at the moment nearing completion of its training for the shiny Amarrian toy that you see in my sig. |
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