I'd like to add that you GMs who ruled the boomerang maneuver as an exploit are anti-fun GMs and that I hear Blizzard Entertainment is hiring your kind of people. Go ahead and make room for the pro-fun GMs if you please.

Its just dual account, and every time a task becomes dual account optimal, communication of such to non players negatively affects the perception of the game and thus signups etc. Escorting a freighter, carrying exactly 1 module is a second account role, not a player role.

Concord has never been intended to offer a grandtheftauto minigame, and has always supposed to represent overpowering force as far as capsuleers were concerned.

Just make suicide ganking an exploit. Players should never be attacking players consequentially. Ever. No matter what.

Just do it and get it over with.

Well cap pilots would have their cyno alts and of course scouting alts, even carrier alts for fighters when ratting.

I don't think highseccers use carriers though. Not for much except maybe mining veldspar with drones...

First off, my main is a carebear. I fit a tank, but haven't seen the hint of a gank, though I've lived in .5/.6 the whole time.
I would rather the Concord response time be changed because it fits in more with the elements of gameplay(lore/rp), just because it's natural to want to TRY to get away (not full evasion).

But Carebears as a whole, and even in this thread, are constantly told "Well, bring some friends to help" (to guard freighters, miners etc). Now the gankers are whining because they can't solo kill a freighter. To that I say: "Well, bring some friends...."

The GMs have ruled shouldn't this be locked now?

I always wondered how that worked. Especially if using tornados where the first volley is all that matters, do you suicide gank them before their sensorboosted lock finishes and their prefired 1400s pucnh holes into the target?

I find it odd that we need to be "reminded" of a new rule, as if we've seen it before. Poor choice of words in my opinion.

I also think this is a bandaid that could have been better solved with a patch to adapt Concord to the tactic rather than a rule banning it. You guys stripped all the wardec rules and continue to allow highsec warfare to be utterly ruined by obvious exploits of game mechanics under the pretense that it was too much to enforce, yet you're okay with adding new rules to prevent this. It's rather disheartening.

PVP and industry are very depended on each other, and both need to work.

If it is an exploit, we're just one step closer to WOW in space.

I really hope CCP change their cearbear direction. If not, I'll have to re-think my yearly subscription.

They might keep the new players, but the older players will leave because of this, as i personally know many who have already.

I-¦m leaving you now, going back to Low-Sec and Zero Space...cu there.

Were there even goons in this thread? I didn't notice.

Why does everyone think everyone that engages in behaviour they don't like are goons?

Even though the GM's have been caving in to ALL demands of the crybabies of eve, they should have not called this an exploit.

An exploit is taking advantage of a BUG in the game, not something that the game mechanics let you do. (this would be like allowing you to make a ship that goes really fast, but calling it an exploit to do it.) Instead of punishing people from doing these things, they should just adjust concord if they feel its a big deal. (instead of punishing the guy for going too fast, just nerf it like in the past.)

I am personally tired of all the "fuzzy line" rules that are created and judged on individual opinions of the GM's. One GM would say something is ok and then next thing you know you get a warning from another.

It seems lately the GM's have really taken "master" to their head from all the run-ins I have heard about with them. This game is going downhill. Someone needs to make the GM's take a step back and help them realize that the rules aren't what made eve good - It was the lack of rules, and the freedom to do what you want. Any more the GM's regulate everything you do and if you do anything in the game that upsets people, eventually count on getting a warning for doing it.

They might keep the new players, but the older players will leave because of this, as i personally know many who have already.

To the people on the previous pages complaining that when you stop and wait for Concord like a good little boy they come up and shoot you - on the grounds that a "real cop" wouldn't blast a surrenduring prisoner - may I please point out the incredibly obvious:

The Carebears would *LOVE* to see a "realistic" punishment system implemented into eve!!! It would go something like this:

1) You gank the bear and wait.
2) Concord Arrests you, confiscates your ship, and sells it on the open market to the lowest bidder.
3) Concord HOLDS YOUR TOON in some form of prison cell for anywhere from 24 hours to a month - during this time, YOU CAN'T PLAY EVE.
4) Finally, your case goes to trial. You get a chance to try to defend your actions.
5) Since you are obviously guilty and there is lots of incontrovertible evidence, you are found Guilty.
6) You are sentenced to anywhere from 5 years to the rest of your life to more PRISON TIME - or in extreme cases, perhaps your toon would be sentenced to permanent biomassing.
7) Congratulations! You no longer have a toon!
8) Either Rage-Quit the game, or roll up a new toon and start the whole process again - with at least a few days/weeks of delay while you retrain the skills needed to gank something.



Yeah...That would be SOOO much better than just getting your ship blown up.....

There is Copper (Cu) in Low-Sec and 0.0? How much does that sell for?

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Oh well, I hear that CVA is back in Providence...perhaps I need to take a look down there again. Do they still have a NRDS policy?