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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kyusoath Orillian on 10/08/2008 11:45:52
Looks
Modelled after the Star Destroyer from star wars, this ship was destined to look absolutely badass.
Speed
Along with the Cyclone it shares the top spot for highest BC (base) speed at 165m/sec.
Tank and Gank
It can be built with an impressive tank, but this ship really shines with a full gank setup. I'm not going to throw EFT numbers around, but damage bonus+ROF bonus = GANKAGE.
but it can do more than just pump out dps, with an t2 AC setup, and those (comedy) fall off rigs, throw in a tracking comp and without losing a single point of DPS from the normal gank setup you have a ship that can hit incredibly hard and very accurately into 24k.
With utility high slots, you can fit nos/nuet or HAMS/HMS.
I think the Power grid and CPU are just right, allowing flexibility.
in short , i love the Hurricane.
Post some incredible, unrealistic crazy EFT fittings for the Hurricane.
PS:no idea why i wrote this.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:56:00 -
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My tempest would kill it... wooot my tempest is the best ship in the game!
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:00:00 -
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COST:EFFECTIVENESS
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Ihmen Shank
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian
[Post some incredible, unrealistic crazy EFT fittings for the Hurricane.
[Hurricane, YAY \o/]
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Damage Control II
Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Domination Warp Disruptor
Domination Stasis Webifier
Ammatar Navy Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Domination 220mm Autocannon, Domination EMP M
Amarr Navy Medium Energy Neutralizer
Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Anti-Explosive Pump II
'Augmented' Hammerhead x3
I threw a mish-mash of really expensive mods together! That means I win yay!
509dps, 655dps tank, runs forever as long as you have cap boosters.
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0rch1d
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:10:00 -
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"Best ship in the game"?
Its bonuses are for projectile weapons, and currently projectiles are at best problematic unless used for PvE.
Best in class perhaps? Not necessarily when you've got the Drake in the same category.
Excellent ship, the 'Cane, but let's not take it too far.
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: 0rch1d
...Drake ...
wat
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian
COST:EFFECTIVENESS
If you start claiming: best ship in the game, you can expect people to pick a more expensive ship and point out that it is better. Especially if you ask for a EFT madness setup. 
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:58:00 -
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HAMDrake eats Hurricanes for breakfast
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:01:00 -
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I think the Hurricane is the worst tier 2 BC. It doesn't tank very well and it doesn't gank very well either. Its mobility advantage is fairly inconsequential. It's the Tempest of battlecruisers.
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Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Gimpb on 10/08/2008 13:13:32
Originally by: 0rch1d
"Best ship in the game"?
Its bonuses are for projectile weapons, and currently projectiles are at best problematic unless used for PvE.
Best in class perhaps? Not necessarily when you've got the Drake in the same category.
Excellent ship, the 'Cane, but let's not take it too far.
Projectile weapons work just fine when fit on a cane. Do they have issues elsewhere? Perhaps, but not here.
You see, for all its tank and midslots, the drake has this problem... it's a flying target. When you see a drake, you know what you're dealing with, there are no surprises. It's not going to chase you down, it's not going to pull some clever trick, it's not going to neut you, it's not going to rep its gang.
It's going to sit there and shoot missiles for mediocre damage... maybe tackle something that gets close, that's it.
If you're in a position to kill it, you kill it; if not, you leave it alone. With the hurricane, you don't know... it might be fast enough to catch you, it might be tanked, it might have artillery, it might be fitting ACs, it might neut you.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the drake isn't useful, I'm just saying it's highly predictable and in a game where you more or less have to chose to fight, predictability is a notable disadvantage. I fully understand that you can get some reasonably good dps out of a drake with HAMs but in the end it's still just a missle shooting brick. It doesn't add anything interesting to a gang, it's just filler.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:16:00 -
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Six midslots for ewar and you say that the Drake is predictable? 
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gimpb
You see, for all its tank and midslots, the drake has this problem... it's a flying target. When you see a drake, you know what you're dealing with, there are no surprises. It's not going to chase you down, it's not going to pull some clever trick
Drake is much more versatile than you think. Sounds to me like you've only ever come across the Caldari Militia noobs who fit their Drakes with L4 mission setups in PvP 
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Gimpb
You see, for all its tank and midslots, the drake has this problem... it's a flying target. When you see a drake, you know what you're dealing with, there are no surprises. It's not going to chase you down, it's not going to pull some clever trick
*Every Ship* is much more versatile than you think. Sounds to me like you've only ever come across the Caldari Militia noobs who fit their *ships* with L4 mission setups in PvP
Fixed that for ya.
why did everyone take this thread so srsly ? jeez
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:57:00 -
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You need to fit the Hurricane with lasers to make it really Star Destroyer'ish and drop the missile launchers for tractor beams. Shield tank of course. No AB or speed mods.
Then and only then the Hurricane is the best ship available in EVE.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:02:00 -
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Harby > Drake > Cane > Myrm
But whatever you say. Tempest is easily the best ship in the game because of the pirate masts. 
Maybe the naglfar.... it's
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oh forget it.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:06:00 -
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(a) The Hurricane has shit for tank. Live with it, but you can't make it tank well, except for lolpassive tanks. Plated setups have low EHP, and dual-rep setups tank bad (and given the SISI changes and kiting being extremely difficult now, dual-rep setups have received a direct nerf). You can get a competitive buffertank (somewhere along the lines of a Drake) if you invest some 600-700M in slave implants, however + a few trimarks (which completely and utterly kill its speed).
(b) While the Hurricane is marginally faster then other BCs, it doesn't account for very much at all. It is admittedly more agile (being just as agile as the Drake) then Harbringer/Myrmidon, which is a nice extra. Plating it tends to kill off speed/etc advantages.
(c) The Hurricane ganks a lot. While I generally admit Gypsio has good points, claiming the Hurricane lacks gank is silly. The only other BC which can exceed the Hurricane's gank is a gank-fit Brutix, and we're only talking about 1-2% here (out of a Brutix which has shit for EHP anyway). The only way to beat other BCs in the (post-SISI change especially) Hurricane is to load Hail M, prey you land in 1km range of your target, dual web it, and melt away. When you do, however, it does this job very well.
It's definitely not the Tempest of the BCs - a Tempest is guaranteed to die to a Mega 1km off, or a... well, anything 1km off. Now, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the Harbringer/Brutix/Myrmidon pilot with a Hurricane 1km off me. On the other side, nearly all these ships (bar the Brutix) do better at range then the Hurricane.
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
You need to fit the Hurricane with lasers to make it really Star Destroyer'ish and drop the missile launchers for tractor beams. Shield tank of course. No AB or speed mods.
Then and only then the Hurricane is the best ship available in EVE.
this guy gets it
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:23:00 -
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I like the op love the Hurricane I wouldn't say its my favorite ship in Eve, thats reserved for the hurricane's younger brother the cyclone (most underrated ship in Eve IMO). But it is an incredibly flexible ship.
I've flown:
-solo in hurricanes
-in gangs in hurricanes
- in big fleets
- in Shield extended gank hurricanes
- in plated gank hurricanes
- in dual medium armor rep canes
- in canes with neutrilizers
- in canes with remote reps
- in nano canes
- in passive mission running canes
- in 720mm ratting canes (against Angels and Sanshas)
- in 650mm pvp fit canes (with domi carbonized lead it's pretty effective)
- in Canes with mids full of sensors damps (before nerf)
- in Canes with mids full of tracking disruptors
It's a cheap ship and it's fun to fly.
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Unworldly1
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Harby > Drake > Cane > Myrm
But whatever you say. Tempest is easily the best ship in the game because of the pirate masts.
Maybe the naglfar.... it's
F
R
E
A
oh forget it.
I woulda thought these ships would be the best cos their guns don't use cap? :S Now i'm confused... Mast > capless?
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Originally by: Jagdgewehr
A stiff fart could do more damage than a Damnation
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kyusoath Orillian on 10/08/2008 14:29:29
Edited by: Kyusoath Orillian on 10/08/2008 14:28:55
[STARDESTLOLLER]
Heat Sink II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Tracking Computer II
Small Shield Booster II
5a Prototype Shield Support I
Compulsive Multispectral ECM I
True Sansha Heavy Pulse Laser,Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
True Sansha Heavy Pulse Laser,Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
True Sansha Heavy Beam Laser,Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
True Sansha Heavy Beam Laser,Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
True Sansha Medium Beam Laser,Amarr Navy Gamma S
True Sansha Medium Beam Laser,Amarr Navy Gamma S
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher,Guristas Bane Torpedo <!!!
small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Ancillary Current Router I
Energy Burst Aerator I
Drones_Active=Hobgoblin II,1
Drones_Active=Warrior II,1
Drones_Active=Hornet II,1
Drones_Active=Acolyte II,2
this setup wins eve.
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Harby > Drake > Cane > Myrm
But whatever you say. Tempest is easily the best ship in the game because of the pirate masts.
Maybe the naglfar.... it's
F
R
E
A
oh forget it.
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line. 
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line.
My claw disagrees with you.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 10/08/2008 14:40:48
We always have the Rifter
Edit: please don't say "Jaguar". The Jaguar is admittedly good, but it doesn't really outshine the Ishkur (or Harpy for that matter - did you know the Harpy was actually a damn good ship if you have AWU V? Suprised the hell out of me.), and its got fairly low DPS. Wolf is nice for ganking other AFs... but it handles like a brick, or it has no EHP, you choose.
Our interceptors suck except for the pure tackle role (Stilleto).
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line.
My claw disagrees with you.
Fly a stiletto...
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Norwood Franskly
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line.
My claw disagrees with you.
Fly a stiletto...
My stiletto disagrees with you too. 
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian
*setup*
this setup wins eve.
I would say a standard Imperial version would look something like this:
[STARDESTLOLLER]
High Slots:
6x Heavy Pulse Laser II (Conflagration)
2x Tractor Beam I
Medium Slots:
2x Large Shield Extender II
1x Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
1x Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Low Slots:
3x Heat Sink II
1x Damage Control II
2x Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I
Rig Slots:
1x Capacitor Control Circuit II
1x Core Defense Field Purger II
Drones:
5x Warrior II
1x Small Armor Maintenance Bot II
This would fit the basic specifications of a Star Destroyer, high firepower with acceptable durability.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Norwood Franskly
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line.
My claw disagrees with you.
Fly a stiletto...
My stiletto disagrees with you too.
better than a Raptor 
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marigoyla
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:26:00 -
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Hurricane is the best ship in eve.
The best looking ship, HANDS down.
This is enough reason for me to fly it.
Apart from that, its not anything special, not the best for sure, not the worst either.
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Trojanman190
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Norwood Franskly
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Don't fret. Minmatar still has a really awesome frigate line.
My claw disagrees with you.
Fly a stiletto...
My stiletto disagrees with you too.
I dunno, my alt loves his stiletto. 30km scram, sensor booster, mwd, cap injector. Tell him to point something from safety and he just goes forever. Is nice =)
Stiletto isnt the ultimate combat ship, but i think is amazing for tackles.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
better than a Raptor
Crow > Claw + Stiletto tbh.
Amarr inties > Gall > Crow (el oh el) > Minmatar
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