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7shining7one7 Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:20:00 - [211] Originally by: CCP Taera Originally by: Murtala Is there a list of proposed module changes anywhere so I can see what the fuss is about. Thanks Speed Rebalanced Serious Security These are the two dev blogs listing some of the upcoming changes :) awesome changes imo, taskforce doughnut ftw!
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:27:00 - [212] Originally by: Nozh bringing balance to the galaxy After reading the entire NERF BAT. I think Nozh should said changing EVE name to Galaxy .
Najovia Destis Cruororis Consors Conlegium	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:32:00 - [213] I came back due to the nerf bat....
Cruel Crow	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:39:00 - [214] Originally by: Najovia Destis I came back due to the nerf bat.... I Just Canceled my account because of people like this. TBH I think they just wanted to be heard. This is a MORONIC POST - Troll
Lyvv Amarr Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:40:00 - [215] Edited by: Lyvv on 12/08/2008 15:43:07 Originally by: Esmenet Edited by: Esmenet on 12/08/2008 13:27:43 Originally by: Veldya People come and go, most adapt to change. Its easy to adapt but its completely beside the point people are trying to make. Those that whined about nanos will continue to die just to different setups. My guess the next whine of the month will be falcons and ECM in general. The issue is not about one specific ship but about forcing the pvp towards less diversity and more blobbing. Actually, I think it will be long-term cloakers in 0.0 systems who will get the shaft. HACs gone - might as well get rid of the Recons while at it... As a matter of fact, why not remove every other ship besides Bantams for the nubs, Ravens for the middle class and Carriers and Dreads for the rest, all Caldari of course. "One Race to rule them all". It would be so much easier to manage for CCP in terms of nerfing shit. Wouldnt want those folks to bust an artery trying to think about balance or anything...
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:40:00 - [216] Originally by: Najovia Destis I came back due to the nerf bat.... You will leave again when you get killed by ecm heavy gangs, rr gangs or whatever else becomes popular that you fail to adapt to. Vote against the nano nerf!
Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:44:00 - [217] Originally by: Esmenet Edited by: Esmenet on 12/08/2008 13:27:43 Originally by: Veldya People come and go, most adapt to change. Its easy to adapt but its completely beside the point people are trying to make. Those that whined about nanos will continue to die just to different setups. My guess the next whine of the month will be falcons and ECM in general. The issue is not about one specific ship but about forcing the pvp towards less diversity and more blobbing. Actually, their intent is to force PvP into more diversity and less FOTM. If falcons become the FOTM and people figure out a way to set them up and use them to which there is no counter, and you start seeing EVERY gang being made up of falcons and cloakers, yeah, they'll probably get whacked. The fundamental problem is that everyone (naturally) wants the easy, low risk gank. Roaming gangs and gate-camps of a half-dozen look to gank solo players. If the gang of a half-dozen gets attacked by a gang of 36 (still a 6:1 ratio) they biotch about blobbing. A gang of 6 should die to a gang of 36, just like a solo player should die to a gate-camp of six. Assuming both the 36 and the 6 are competent, of course. It is and always has been about trying to evade superior forces while engaging weaker ones. Funny thing is the same people who whine loudest about the nano nerf would also whine about any change that made it easier for a solo player to evade a roaming gang or gate camp. Bottom line is that everyone is just looking for easy mode, regardless of their style of play and whine when they don't get it, or get it taken away.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:52:00 - [218] Edited by: Esmenet on 12/08/2008 15:52:38 Originally by: Somealt Ofmine Actually, their intent is to force PvP into more diversity and less FOTM. Atm i fly mostly hacs and battleships in pvp. After patch i will fly battleships almost excusively and even use less types of battleships. I cant see that having less options of ships to fly is anything but less diversity. Vote against the nano nerf!
Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:21:00 - [219] Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 12/08/2008 16:26:38 Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 12/08/2008 16:22:58 Originally by: Esmenet Atm i fly mostly hacs and battleships in pvp. After patch i will fly battleships almost excusively and even use less types of battleships. I cant see that having less options of ships to fly is anything but less diversity. The design philosophy of the game always has been that there should be a way to win regardless of the class of ship you fly against any other class of ship. It all comes down to having the right setup to counter what your opponent is flying. A HAC set up to kill inties might die to other hacs. A HAC set up to kill battleships might die to inties. Depending on how you set up your boat, you'll be strong against some classes/setups, and weak against others. When a someone comes up with a setup that has no (or practically no) weaknesses, it's just going to get whacked. It happened with stabbed sniper boats. It happened with nos-a-domis, and now with nano boats. If you fly only battleships post-patch there are going to be some classes/setups that you'll die to consistantly. If not, battleships (or some battleships) will become the new FOTM, and the nerf bat will come for them too. At the end of the day, it has to come down to picking your targets, and knowing how to fly the class of ship you're flying against whomever you're going up against. The better PLAYER should win, with something of an edge going to the veteran (SP). Spending gobs of isk or flying the FOTM setup should not render skill irrelevent, and grant you "god mode".
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:27:00 - [220] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Sergeant Spot Eve does not need, or want, those who cant handle it. I presume that you think similarly about lag and people who can't handle staring 40 minutes at an empty overview while targets are being called on TS? Yep Play nice while you butcher each other.
Braaage eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:31:00 - [221] I'm going to stick my neck out here a bit and speak for the corp I am in. Most of the 0.0 alliances will have heard of Exceed and the fact for the last umpteen months our PVP gangs have been nano gangs. See our FCs figured out by nanoing most things can't hit you, in fact the only way to counter a nano gang is either a DD off a titan or to hit it with another nano gang. I told our corp the other day that the nano nerf was their fault and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually true Anyway the point of my post is this.... when our PVPers heard of the nano nerf it was like WTF!!! OH NOES!!!!! and then after the initial dust had settled our FCs sat down and figured out how to use this to our advantage. Not OMFG THAT'S IT I'M LEAVING, or F*** THAT I'M OFF NOW. I was slightly amazed actually cos I thought that would have been the response. So all the whiners saying they are leaving cos of the nano nerf, well, hah.... adapt!! PS I just realised this may not be a nano nerf thread whine but I'll be damned if I aint posting it now I typed it out -- POSs, Outposts, Exploration, Mining, Invention, Boosters, EA EVE Database, Character Generator & more
Johann Jeneau Gallente Cricas Portuguese Korp	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:36:00 - [222] I'm not leaving, eagerly waiting for the next patch (after the promised nerf one), where ccp instead of sending sand to our eyes (add "content" and nerf/change stuff ) really fix the broken stuff in eve, risk-reward balance, and blob=win factors. I like my steaks bloody as hell
Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:37:00 - [223] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Sergeant Spot Eve does not need, or want, those who cant handle it. I presume that you think similarly about lag and people who can't handle staring 40 minutes at an empty overview while targets are being called on TS? Sort of. The game lags. Given the current sov mechanics, mega-blobs are the way to win, lag or no. If conquering 0.0 space is your reason for playing the game, and you can't handle lag / utterly broken and boring game play as long as you "win", yeah, you should leave. Fortunately there is quite a bit to do in Eve without conquering/holding 0.0 space for those of us that enjoy playing something that resembles a game, rather than a Powerpoint presentation. If there was nothing else to do in the game but suffer through 20 minute module activation and dying before the grid loaded, I'd leave. I don't have enough ego invested in the game that "winning" is worth sitting through that to me. Everyone makes their own choice about that, I guess.
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:41:00 - [224] I think about 3 people will quit. Then they'll get bored playing WoW and come back. Get out of my way. I'm liquored up and looking fer love. I support log offs. There's just something about denying free electrons to my computer that appeals to my need for control.
Judge Ment Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:44:00 - [225] Originally by: Braaage I'm going to stick my neck out here a bit and speak for the corp I am in. Most of the 0.0 alliances will have heard of Exceed and the fact for the last umpteen months our PVP gangs have been nano gangs. See our FCs figured out by nanoing most things can't hit you, in fact the only way to counter a nano gang is either a DD off a titan or to hit it with another nano gang. I told our corp the other day that the nano nerf was their fault and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually true Anyway the point of my post is this.... when our PVPers heard of the nano nerf it was like WTF!!! OH NOES!!!!! and then after the initial dust had settled our FCs sat down and figured out how to use this to our advantage. Not OMFG THAT'S IT I'M LEAVING, or F*** THAT I'M OFF NOW. I was slightly amazed actually cos I thought that would have been the response. So all the whiners saying they are leaving cos of the nano nerf, well, hah.... adapt!! PS I just realised this may not be a nano nerf thread whine but I'll be damned if I aint posting it now I typed it out 1st Open your eyes.. I didn't want to Touch on Nano BTW There is more ways to get nano ships 2nd Nobody is saying OMG Im quiting - Again Im not quiting. What im saying is: Im willing to cancel my account as a petition type. I don't believe Petition are going to stop the Nerf Bat. I do believe that Money will. After all who is going to pay for all these expensive servers you all play on. Again Im not giving the OMG Im quiting attitude. I spent to much time training the accounts I own. 3rd I Believe there are better ways to handling the problem other then taking a NERF BAT To all the mods and implants listed. BTW There more than ONE NERF BAT BEING TALK ABOUT. This touches on mutiple issues Last anyone remember the last patch? "There was nothing nerf" - What a bunch of BS that was
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:55:00 - [226] Originally by: CCP Atropos Originally by: Esmenet Never said you were the one to supply it and i honestly dont care if you reply in more useless topics such as this. But whether you like it or not it sends a message about CCP when you reply to this but give the silent treatment to a topic that has generated threads with over 100 pages. Even if you dont have the finished "answer" you could at least say something especially in the threads started by CCP as "official" discussion threads. Oh I perfectly understand your position and your wish for a dev to post. Silence is not indicative of us ignoring the thread, and I do know for a fact that both Nozh and Fendahl have been watching the threads with avid interest. As much as I would love to, I can't use my cattle prod on them. I could give you my stuff, but without the Polaris skill to fly the ships, they're kinda useless The irritation occurs when 100's of pages get created with gripes moans and whines about the up and coming 'nano nerf', but no feedback from the devs..the people just wanna feel like they are being heard. A simple 'hi we are reading your comments' in the development threads etc goes a long way. Thanks for letting us know that Nozh and Fendahl 'have been watching the threads with avid interest'. --------- If the Thorax was a car it would look like this
Liz Laser	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:59:00 - [227] I wouldn't know a nano if it bit me in the arse. Can I nano my Retriever? :-) Suicide Ganking never appealed to me. So why exactly would I leave?
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:05:00 - [228] Originally by: Liz Laser I wouldn't know a nano if it bit me in the arse. Can I nano my Retriever? :-) Suicide Ganking never appealed to me. So why exactly would I leave? Sorry can't help you
Duncan MacPherson Minmatar Black Lion Legion	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:08:00 - [229] Originally by: Judge Ment Edited by: Judge Ment on 10/08/2008 21:53:16 After playing for awhile; and being with EVE. Training my skills. IM just wondering how many are thinking of leaving EVE? No you cant have my stuff! I Might pack up untill CCP finds a better solution then NERFING everything Im training Just another Whine (later) I will not leave because I am a rational adult. I realize that because some folks have abused a mechanic in the game that CCP mearly needs to adjust said mechanics to correct and maintain balance. BTW - My main ship is a vagabond. Anyone who complains about this really needs to 1. Get a life 2. Realize its a game 3. Needs to adapt or move outta the way. I for one will not miss anyone who leaves over this. Less lag for me.
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:13:00 - [230] Edited by: Gracious NightAngel on 12/08/2008 17:16:19 I couldn't help my self. Someone draw me a picture here "I am a rational adult" who plays click games. How Rational is that? I don't think you made your case\ There is a balance issues : Easy fix "Nerf Bat" OP Pointed out that there is other ways to go around then easy fix. I think CCP has maintain game for their game play. After all the majority of them Devs *****ing
Surreptitious State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:15:00 - [231] Thinking about it yes, leaning towards it no, but it all depends on how things play out. Im not really outraged or angered by the changes so much tbh,, 2 years ago I would have never considered leaving. But after almost 5 years the whole game itself just seems kindof meh. If the changes take my fun away then yeah I'll probably hit the cancel button and leave sometype of disguting ****ographic note for the customer service rep to read. Maybe just a link to 2 Girls 1 Cup. Syrup
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:29:00 - [232] Originally by: Surreptitious Thinking about it yes, leaning towards it no, but it all depends on how things play out. link to 2 Girls 1 Cup. Syrup How things play out : Another Sci Fi space game that better then what Im playing now 2girl thingy : Just Gross "Did you see the kermit Frog view?"
Loyal Servant Caldari PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:21:00 - [233] Well, I don't know.
Arlenna Molatov Caldari The 59th Parallel	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:27:00 - [234] Well...if you are going to QUIT...then quit. Shut up, go get your panties out of their ruffles and go back to playing WOW. Its fricking hilarious with the whiners THREATENING to quit over stuff they bloody well knew was going to get nerfed. The only thing they DIDN'T know was when. Well, the wen is NOW. So IF you can't continue playing a game because its going to end your life, then you just need to leave and free up the server resources for us that wish to still be here and aren't throwing around 12-month old temper-tantrums. ROFL, you people are frickin jokes.
Judge Ment Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:41:00 - [235] Originally by: Arlenna Molatov Well...if you are going to QUIT...then quit. Shut up, go get your panties out of their ruffles and go back to playing WOW. Its fricking hilarious with the whiners THREATENING to quit over stuff they bloody well knew was going to get nerfed. The only thing they DIDN'T know was when. Well, the wen is NOW. So IF you can't continue playing a game because its going to end your life, then you just need to leave and free up the server resources for us that wish to still be here and aren't throwing around 12-month old temper-tantrums. ROFL, you people are frickin jokes. Thank you for your wonderfull speech I'm really impress. I guess if I was to quit, people like you would be the reason! I don't believe your helping to solve a problem. - This is why Cost of living is high.. To many Democrats
tartrus Filthy Scum	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:51:00 - [236] CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE CRY MORE LOL
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.12 20:22:00 - [237] tartrus - Your just the kinda a person I want to hang with. How do I become part of you corporation?
Judge Ment Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:59:00 - [238] Funny thing Is Im barking now, But few weeks from now you people will be barking. Im just shinning the light on subject that will be coming soon.. BTW I Been training the wife for Gallente thinking Blaster were the ticket. Now changing to rails and drones untill CCP Nerfs that Im crying "Give me time to catch my tears"
Matrixcvd Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 04:36:00 - [239] Originally by: Arlenna Molatov Well...if you are going to QUIT...then quit. Shut up, go get your panties out of their ruffles and go back to playing WOW. Its fricking hilarious with the whiners THREATENING to quit over stuff they bloody well knew was going to get nerfed. The only thing they DIDN'T know was when. Well, the wen is NOW. So IF you can't continue playing a game because its going to end your life, then you just need to leave and free up the server resources for us that wish to still be here and aren't throwing around 12-month old temper-tantrums. ROFL, you people are frickin jokes. almost 2 years of continual gameplay, hardly a solid indiciation that anyone thought something was wrong except for the orginal whiners
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.08.13 13:11:00 - [240] Originally by: Matrixcvd Originally by: Arlenna Molatov Well...if you are going to QUIT...then quit. Shut up, go get your panties out of their ruffles and go back to playing WOW. Its fricking hilarious with the whiners THREATENING to quit over stuff they bloody well knew was going to get nerfed. The only thing they DIDN'T know was when. Well, the wen is NOW. So IF you can't continue playing a game because its going to end your life, then you just need to leave and free up the server resources for us that wish to still be here and aren't throwing around 12-month old temper-tantrums. ROFL, you people are frickin jokes. almost 2 years of continual gameplay, hardly a solid indiciation that anyone thought something was wrong except for the orginal whiners Been 2yrs since Kali patch? WTZ = Only thing CCP did right.

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