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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40
Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.
My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Heres the climax
I work in a fish and chip shop.
Is this ******ed or what?
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40
Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.
My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Heres the climax
I work in a fish and chip shop.
Is this ******ed or what?
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Nobler
Caldari
Divine Power
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:56:00 -
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It sucks. I have had to fire someone, and I think that sucks just as much.
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Nobler
Caldari
Divine Power
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:56:00 -
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It sucks. I have had to fire someone, and I think that sucks just as much.
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Arvald
Caldari
Ninjas N Pirates
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:07:00 -
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and thats why i dont use my real name on any social networks as employers are starting to check them when hiring you and such
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:09:00 -
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It's pretty stupid to say... just bout anything on a social networking site; like arvald said more and more people are checking them. But, since it is a fish n chips shop.... it doesn't really matter.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 11/08/2008 20:13:02
 Originally by: Eternal Error
It's pretty stupid to say... just bout anything on a social networking site; like arvald said more and more people are checking them. But, since it is a fish n chips shop.... it doesn't really matter.
truth, thats like mcdonalds over here in the states firing someone for being a vegan.
So, really, feel free to laugh at them and move on.
but yes, social networking sites are actually being looked at by a ton of people now. so dont use your real name or anything like that if its remotely possible.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:15:00 -
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Well that's stupid  Well least you can get a better job now 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Mckenna
saying i hated the place and it was a shithole
My boss then somehow found this and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:18:00 -
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that's cute.. some fish and chip shop owner thinking he is running a mega corporation 
laugh it up and get yourself a better job m8, all you can do about stuff like that is just laugh at how pathetic it is.. and then move on.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:19:00 -
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Ask your boss what he thinks you'll give them as far as bad press once fired.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:22:00 -
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Happened here at HP too. Someone posted a blog on his myspace about hating this place and a mole, I guess you could say, provided the link to management. Angry employee went bye bye.
We also found the myspace page for another employee, a rather quiet one, and his page left us scared which led us to think that maybe companies should start viewing social networking sights so you don't end up with some psycho working for you.
On the point though not only does it give the business a bad rep but it also demoralizes fellow employees which should only be left to managers to do that. One bad attitude can create many bad attitudes which decreases productivity which can in turn decrease sales so to keep revenue up you have to pull a few weeds and keep the garden clean.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/08/2008 20:28:31
Originally by: Akita T
Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.
 ok akita first of, this wasn't a streamlined mega corporation, this was a fish and chip shop. so first off.. its ridiculous.. allright.. we got that straight so far.. now..
secondly the guy is an adult and i'm pretty sure he doesn't need people like you to pounce on him with your "i told you so", "learn your lesson" and.. "you are stupid for doing so insinuations.." especially in the circumstances this happened.. which.. were ridiculous.
obviously the guy wouldn't say it like that if he was interviewed cause then he would know his boss would definately fire him since he and many others would 100% hear about it, it's ok to be disgruntled sometimes to do otherwise is just throw everything into two different categories and then deny all other spectrums of human emotion.. but he didn't so you can't even compare that.. its ridiculous... he said it in what he thought was a private venue.. it's like you being drunk at a party and blurting out how much you f'ing hate your work sometimes, coming on the job the following monday having your boss fire you cause someone ratted you out..
furthermore.. he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Happened here at HP too. Someone posted a blog on his myspace about hating this place and a mole, I guess you could say, provided the link to management. Angry employee went bye bye.
We also found the myspace page for another employee, a rather quiet one, and his page left us scared which led us to think that maybe companies should start viewing social networking sights so you don't end up with some psycho working for you.
On the point though not only does it give the business a bad rep but it also demoralizes fellow employees which should only be left to managers to do that. One bad attitude can create many bad attitudes which decreases productivity which can in turn decrease sales so to keep revenue up you have to pull a few weeds and keep the garden clean.
How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 20:36:04
Originally by: 7shining7one7
he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?
Let's just say I used to run my bussiness, and I have plenty of RL friends who run their own bussinesses.
Would any of my employees or my friend's employees ever said anything even remotely equivalent to "that place sucks, it's a shithole" anywhere even remotely public using any form of traceable indentification, they'd be fired INSTANTLY, and they should be praying that all that will happen to them is JUST to get fired.
So, no, he gets absolutely zero sympathy, unless that place REALLY was a shithole (compared to similar establishments in the area, that is, not compared to whatever high standards he might have in his head), and even then, he only gets the "let this be a lesson to you on when and where to open your big mouth" kind of sympathy.
If it REALLY was such a shithole, he would have better quit his job before he got fired.
If he gets even remotely angry for getting fired, then it wasn't really that big of a shithole, now was it ?
Or maybe he's just incapable of finding any work somewhere better ? I don't know... and I really couldn't care less.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:34:00 -
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Well if it's a shithole, it's a shithole.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Happened here at HP too. Someone posted a blog on his myspace about hating this place and a mole, I guess you could say, provided the link to management. Angry employee went bye bye.
We also found the myspace page for another employee, a rather quiet one, and his page left us scared which led us to think that maybe companies should start viewing social networking sights so you don't end up with some psycho working for you.
On the point though not only does it give the business a bad rep but it also demoralizes fellow employees which should only be left to managers to do that. One bad attitude can create many bad attitudes which decreases productivity which can in turn decrease sales so to keep revenue up you have to pull a few weeds and keep the garden clean.
How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?
hehe dietrich is just like that, we've had some wonderful disagreements in the past on this forum due to it. it's all good..
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?
Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Wendat Huron
How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?
Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.
Yeah, MD, you're such a nationa-socialist for not wanting pedophiles, necrophiliacs or kitty-neck-snapping goth kids in your workplace ! Shame on you ! Think of the children ! Oh wait...
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/08/2008 20:43:40
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 20:36:04
Originally by: 7shining7one7
he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?
Let's just say I used to run my bussiness, and I have plenty of RL friends who run their own bussinesses.
Would any of my employees or my friend's employees ever said anything even remotely equivalent to "that place sucks, it's a shithole" anywhere even remotely public using any form of traceable indentification, they'd be fired INSTANTLY, and they should be praying that all that will happen to them is JUST to get fired.
So, no, he gets absolutely zero sympathy, unless that place REALLY was a shithole (compared to similar establishments in the area, that is, not compared to whatever high standards he might have in his head), and even then, he only gets the "let this be a lesson to you on when and where to open your big mouth" kind of sympathy.
If it REALLY was such a shithole, he would have better quit his job before he got fired.
If he gets even remotely angry for getting fired, then it wasn't really that big of a shithole, now was it ?
Or maybe he's just incapable of finding any work somewhere better ? I don't know... and I really couldn't care less.
well maybe that's why you _used_ to run a business..
if you treat people well they tend to not have that much to complain about, and if they can't be a bit disgruntled in a relaxed private venue without you having to go all nasi on them, breathing down their necks, well then there's every bit of reason to get annoyed.. might even reflect in poor job performance.. cause they "can't be arsed with such a nasi boss, gonna look for another job away from this bs".. sound familiar?
there should be room to say "you know i f'ing hate this shit sometimes, but i'm doing my best" or .. "i don't like you doing this etc." and whatnot.. and then working through it.. finding a common ground.. works a hell of a lot better than that "no mercy" thing you seem to promote.. maybe you should've hired some human ressources people that could achieve what you apparently were unable to.
daium you got some attitude.. especially in a thread started about a guy that just lost his job.. put on your thinking cap for a sec and cool down on the self righteousness trip a bit...
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Wendat Huron
How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?
Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.
Teamplayer? Are you not a capitalist? There's no team, only me, me and me.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:44:00 -
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I do own my own business and if anyone said that this place was a shithole they would be fired.
Not because I'm vindictive; it's because I don't want people working for me who don't want to work for me; if they think the place sucks, odds are they won't be doing as well as they could be.
This is why I ultimately wound up hiring hobos and paying them in sammiches.
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CEO, Founder, & Executor
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
well maybe that's why you _used_ to run a business
Maybe I just retired, how about that for a change ?
Or how about the fact nobody who ever worked for me ever got a reason to SAY it would be a shithole ?
Or what about the fact I actually TOLD one of my first employers that the place is a shithole (of course NOT using the word "shithole" for starters), but I also explained to him why exactly that is and what I would do to improve it, and instead of getting fired I got promoted ? Then eventually quite myself because it never got better and started my own thing ?
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daium you got some attitude.. especially in a thread started about a guy that just lost his job
And I'm supposed to do what ?
Pat him on the back, tell him that he did absolutely nothing wrong, and confort him ?
In other words, I should be lying through my teeth, or shut my mouth instead ?
No thanks. Not my style.
He got fired from a (self-confessed) shitty job in a (publically stated) shitty place due to his (arguably shitty) unwatched mouth.
Why should I offer him any comfort for that ?
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: 7shining7one7
well maybe that's why you _used_ to run a business
Maybe I just retired, how about that for a change ?
Or how about the fact nobody who ever worked for me ever got a reason to SAY it would be a shithole ?
Or what about the fact I actually TOLD one of my first employers that the place is a shithole (of course NOT using the word "shithole" for starters), but I also explained to him why exactly that is and what I would do to improve it, and instead of getting fired I got promoted ? Then eventually quite myself because it never got better and started my own thing ?
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daium you got some attitude.. especially in a thread started about a guy that just lost his job
And I'm supposed to do what ?
Pat him on the back, tell him that he did absolutely nothing wrong, and confort him ?
In other words, I should be lying through my teeth, or shut my mouth instead ?
No thanks. Not my style.
He got fired from a (self-confessed) shitty job in a (publically stated) shitty place due to his (arguably shitty) unwatched mouth.
Why should I offer him any comfort for that ?
ahahahahaahahaha... ahahaha.. the irony is strong in this one!
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.
Teamplayer? Are you not a capitalist? There's no team, only me, me and me.
And that mentality would get you knocked off my list.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.
Teamplayer? Are you not a capitalist? There's no team, only me, me and me.
And that mentality would get you knocked off my list.
as much as i disagree with dietrich at times, i'm going to agree with him on this one.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40
Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.
My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Heres the climax
I work in a fish and chip shop.
Is this ******ed or what?
hahaha... ffs
Well don't forget to update your comment on WHY you hate working there.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 21:07:45
Originally by: 7shining7one7
Originally by: Akita T
Or what about the fact I actually TOLD one of my first employers that the place is a shithole (of course NOT using the word "shithole" for starters), but I also explained to him why exactly that is and what I would do to improve it, and instead of getting fired I got promoted ?
ahahahahaahahaha... ahahaha.. the irony is strong in this one!
It's not called "irony"... it's called "being diplomatic" 
And it's the difference between geting your boss angry enough to fire you, or your boss appreciating what he has... even if you somewhat **** him off anyway to begin with (and the feeling is mutual).
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Observe the following examples, both with you at the counter, boss behind your back.
Customer asks for a double-something-we-don't-have with a side-order of never-heard-of-it.
Do you:
a) tell the customer "we don't serve that in this shithole !"
or
b) turn to your boss whispering jokingly "man, this is such a shithole, why don't we have that stuff?"
or
c) turn to your boss and ask "I have no idea what this guy wants, what should I tell him?"
or
d) tell the customer politely "sorry sir, we do not carry that, but would you rather have xxx instead", then after the customer leaves, tell your boss "hmm, what if we would also serve whateverthehellthedudewanted?"
Wether this is right in fron of your boss or on any other remotely public place, the difference is minimal.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
as much as i disagree with dietrich at times, i'm going to agree with him on this one. allthough, there is a very fine line between being a teamplayer and a self righteous manipulative persecutor, maybe even for your own amusement.. and sometimes the line gets a little blurry at times for some.
Doesn't being self-righteous and manipulative suggest a boss on a power trip more than a team player? Last time I checked, being a team player involved getting along with other people, and that doesn't sound like a good way to do it.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:14:00 -
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hehe you don't get it the irony i take it, let me spell it out for you then..
you get promoted on the basis of your boss accepting constructive critisism..
then you quit the job and make your own business where you turn into a nasi employeer who runs it with meglomaniacal tendencies.
now here's what you're missing..
fast forward, this post, this guy looses his job.. because he in a private venue probably in good humor or whatever, said where he worked was a shithole.. he didn't say it to his employer he said it to a friend, had he wanted to talk to his employeer about it he would probably also say well this is how we can do it better..
but he wasn't talking to his boss he was talking to a friend about it in a private venue.. and i'm pretty sure that his friend or whatever wouldn't go around saying the shit sucks cause afterall, the guy worked there.. so there's no bad image.. and i'm also pretty sure they guy just felt disgruntled at that point and wasn't attempting to subvert the unnamed fish and chips shop he worked at..
and then you sit there with your self righteous bullshit, and it turns out you done exactly the f'ing same thing till you switched lane to becoming an employer nasi.. what a hypocrit.. damn straight.. and i hope since you due to your past experiences can appreciate the relevance of constructive critisism maybe you should take this with you also.. and see if it rings true if you're honest with yourself.
cause that's allmost poetic irony right there.. and don't even tell me you don't deserve to be hung out after the self righteous shit you spewed in this thread so far.
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